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Dr. Jim Garlow is a lifelong pastor who most recently served in San Diego, California, and now leads Well Versed, a ministry dedicated to bringing biblical
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Prayer Network Welcome and Expert Introduction 0:14 We can go.0:16 Well, we welcome you to the World Prayer Network call. Thank you for being with us. My name is Jim Garland. I wanna remind you, our purpose is very, very simple. We pray for holiness, for righteousness, for biblical0:28 justice, as opposed to social justice and truth to prevail throughout the land and the nations of the earth. If you're part of the media, part of the press, we ask you to step off the call. Nothing ever shared here is to0:38 be reported in the media. Lastly, we're way beyond the issue of partisanship or Republican versus Democrat or even right versus left. Where we are squarely planted is right versus wrong, good versus0:50 evil, light versus darkness, biblical truth as opposed to anti scriptural constructs, the things of god as opposed to the things of the evil 1. That being said, the official beginning of the World Prayer Network call is1:02 always the sounding of the shofar all the way from Israel, from Beit oh god, Israel. Our official shofar sounder, Robert Wenger. Robert?1:30 Well, we have an exciting announcement. I'm really thrilled to talk about this. There are 93 major ministries that all broadcast from the same thing, pray dot com. We have the privilege of being the next 1. Pray dot com1:41 is at 25000000 downloads that tells you the size of this. And I want you to go get your app right now. Go to the App Store. If you have Apple or Android, go to your App Store and download pray dot1:53 com as an app. When you have that app, then you're gonna watch all these ministries, but we're gonna have our first inaugural broadcast. It'll be Tuesday night, 8 PM2:04 Pacific time, 9 PM Mountain time, 10 PM, Central time, and 11 PM, you're gonna stay up late on the East Coast, 11 PM Eastern time. So2:16 once again, go to your Apple or your Android app store, download pray dot com. We'll be there's 2 branches. It's got a pray TV and pray radio. We're on pray TV,2:28 and we'll be launching this Tuesday night at 8 PM Pacific time, 11 PM Eastern time. So download the pray dot com app right now and join us2:40 on that. We're very excited about this happening. Now let's go to our guest, Kleta Mitchell. Kleta, I, so honored to have you back on. We've had you on before on the World Prayer Network call. Thank you for coming back2:52 on, and I would like you to just take, the first 1 minute, maximum 2 minutes to give you a life history. And 1 to 2 minutes, can I tell who you are so people will know a little about you, where you were3:04 born, your schooling, your family, etcetera? So take the first 1 to 2 minutes to talk about yourself. Then, folks, we're gonna jump into an extremely relevant, important front burner topic.3:16 Kleta, welcome, and tell us a little bit about yourself.3:19 Thank you so much. I really appreciate the opportunity to be with you and your listeners and viewers. I was born in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. I grew up in Oklahoma City. I attended the University3:31 of Oklahoma and the University of Oklahoma College of Law. I practice law in Oklahoma, and was served in the state legislature there a number of years ago. And in the early nineties, my husband,3:43 Dale, and my daughter who was 6 at the time, and I moved to Washington DC where I was the national attorney for the term limits, movement, the the movement for3:55 term limits for members of congress and was co counsel in the case that went to the Supreme Court, on term limits. And since that time, I've just been doing political law, various,4:08 small law firm, a little law firm that I merged into a great big law firm and practiced campaign finance and election law, political law for more than 20 years. In 20 20, I4:20 was asked by the White House to go to Georgia following the November third election of 20 20 and saw what a mess that place is. What a mess of an election it was. And,4:32 but the left came after me, the perverts in the Lincoln project. And so they really sicked a lot of the clients on my law firm by urging them to fire me. And so,4:44 my law firm partnership of 20 years and I parted ways. And since February first of 20 21, I have been the senior legal fellow at the4:56 conservative partnership interest institute in Washington that is founded by former senator Jim Dement, former congressman and White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows. And, I founded in5:08 20 21 under the umbrella of of CPI by the Election Integrity Network, and I have spent full time over the last, 5 years doing really focusing5:20 on identifying and learning the problems of our elections. What has got what are they supposed to how are they supposed to be run? How are they actually run? And how we can do what we need to do to restore5:31 integrity to our election process. So that's a little bit about me if I hope that that covers the waterfront quickly.5:39 It sure does. And by the way, we have common ties. I think we covered this last time. Perhaps you were on, Oklahoma City. There were 3 different I went to Southern Nazarene University, and then I was on staff at Bethany5:50 First Church of Nazarene. And my my my my my my first wife who who was now deceased, Carol was a student at University of Oklahoma when we had our our first date. So went to a lot of6:02 football games there, boomer soon there. So back in the day, JC Watts and all the great stars of the time. So let's jump in right at the topic, election integrity. This is6:14 so enormous, but especially I don't know if we can start with the SAVE Act. We've interviewed your good friends, Garland and Tamara Faberito on this as well.The SAVE America Act: Securing Elections 6:26 But I'd like you to just outline what is the SAVE Act? What does it mean? Why is it important? We know what happened in the house, but bring people up to speed on that. And then where are we in the senate?6:38 So help us understand the save act. Okay. Any other any other aspects of election integrity?6:46 Well, thank you. And I'll try to keep this so that I have an unfortunate tendency to talk nonstop about this because I know all the things that we need to do address and deal with. The SAVE Act6:58 was introduced into the US house in 20 24, and it really came about. That's, I think, what we talked about when I joined your program previously. But, I really felt7:10 God put on my heart in January of 20 24 that we really needed to raise the alarm about all these illegals who had been admitted into our country by the Biden7:22 administration and what role they, that the Democratic power structure had in mind for illegals to play in terms of getting them to be registered on7:34 the voter rolls so that either they could vote those people or once they got them on the rolls, the others could basically steal their votes. And that's the kind of thing that actually does happen. And so I went to,7:46 Congressman Chip Roy and to Senator Mike Lee, who both of whom are very close friends of mine. And I also knew that if I could talk to them, if they were willing to sponsor the legislation7:59 that we needed to pass to correct a problem created by congress many decades ago by, when the congress passed the National Voter Registration Act. But I knew if I could get persuade the 2 of them8:12 to work on with me on a bill, to correct a big problem in our election system, which is that people need to show that they're citizens. They need to prove8:23 their their documentary proof of citizenship that they are indeed citizens before they're allowed to register to vote. And that isn't the way the law reads today. And in fact, the Supreme Court decision in 208:35 13 held that only congress, or the Election Assistance Commission, but only the only the federal government8:49 requires that every state must accept and use a federally developed form to register to vote. A standard form that is issued9:00 by the Election Assistance Commission. And on that form, it's the first question is, are you a citizen of the United States? And people can check a box yes or no, but there's no requirement for proof.9:12 And so people what we have found is all over the country, we've found noncitizens, who are on the voter rolls. And and in many cases, we found situations where people check the box no that they were9:24 not citizens, and they get registered to vote anyway. And so, so senator Lee and but the Supreme Court had held that all the congress could fix this. It's a federally created9:36 problem. Federal federal government has to fix it. So, Chip Roy and I kept talking to speaker Johnson about the importance of this issue in 20 24. And we knew that9:48 even if we couldn't get a bill passed, if we could make as much noise about it as possible and really organize and mobilize people across the country about the threat of noncitizen voting, that that would go a long10:00 way to where maybe making some of the bad actors stop and think before they, started trying to do something that they they knew we would be watching. And so we built a national coalition. We had so10:12 many people weighing in, contacting their members of the house, and that bill did pass in July of of 20 24, went to the senate. Of course, it got assigned to a10:24 committee and was never heard from again. Then last year in April of 20 25, the house once again passed the save act and again sent it to the senate.10:35 Well, this time, we started thinking, what could we do that would be different? Because we are tired of just getting stopped in the senate. So,10:47 again, senator Mike Lee and congressman Chip Roy began we began working on what would a new bill look like and what I'm not an expert on senate10:59 rules. I've learned a lot about the senate rules of the US senate. I keep telling everybody we need to know enough to be dangerous. We want to be dangerous with these senate rules. We wanna know enough to make them11:11 understand that they have to that we're watching, and we know what's going on. But so the decision was made to to enact a to create a new bill that would have the provisions11:23 from the old the original save act, which was the requirement changing of federal law to require documentary proof of citizenship when people register to vote, which is at 89, 9011:35 percent issue, by the way, with the American people. And we added 2 more11:40 getting the 9 out of 10 Americans support this.11:43 Correct. We're correct. And so we added 2 more main provisions. The second 1 being also, this is a 90, 91 percent issue that the that everyone who votes in a11:55 federal election must present a photo ID. And whether you vote in person or by mail, you have to you have to present a photo ID. And we also12:07 limited the types of IDs that are acceptable for voting because all but 5 states, for instance, allow student IDs to be used for voting. But you don't have to be a citizen of the12:19 United States to get a student ID. You don't have to be a resident of your state to get a student ID. And there are lots of different IDs over the years that have been, identified as acceptable for12:31 voting. And so we've worked to narrow that to require that if there's a that it's an ID that proves that you're a citizen and that you have to have a photo to register to vote.12:43 And if you you know, ultimately, but so that's the main provision. So that's number 2. And then the third thing, the third major component of this bill,12:55 the Save America Act, is to require every state to submit its voter rolls to the Department of Homeland Security to run against a database, a system that13:06 DHS, has put together, and it can then produce a report that shows if there are any noncitizens on the voter rolls, if there are any people on the voter rolls13:18 who are dead. And they have tens of thousands. It's about half the states have already started doing that. The Trump administration has put together a really robust,13:30 really overhaul of the same system. So now it's available for for these batch uploads of millions of records that we have in voter rolls across the country. So those 3 provisions are the Save America Act, proof of13:42 citizenship to register, photo ID when you vote and vote when you vote by mail or or in person. And every state has to submit its federal rules to DHS13:54 to, do a comparison to make sure that any noncitizens or dead people are identified so they can be removed. So those are the 3 provisions of the of the bill. And instead of passing it as a14:06 house bill, what the house did, in, late February was to include it. Take they stripped out the the contents of a14:18 bill a senate bill that has already passed the senate, which is waiting to be heard by the house. And they stripped the content out of that bill. And they put all of the content14:30 of the Save America Act in this senate bill. So that changes things for purposes of the senate rules. It goes back to the senate, not as a bill14:42 passed by the house that needs to go to committee and all, but it comes back as what they call a message, which means that in order to take up the bill, you only need 51 votes. You don't14:54 need 60 votes. You just need 51 votes to on a motion to proceed. So that bill, senate bill 13 83, the Save America Act, is now15:06 on it's at the desk as a privileged, with enjoying privileged status, which means it can be brought to the floor at any time, and by and15:17 senator Thune can move to proceed on that bill with a simple majority. And so what we are asking senator Thune to do, and we are in the process of developing a15:29 petition that people can sign. I'll tell you where you can go to be able to sign that. We want thousands and thousands of Americans to sign the petition that we're gonna just start sending those names over to15:41 the senate and to senator Thune because he has it within his capacity as the majority leader of the senate to make the senate members come to the floor15:53 and talk and tell the American people if the Democrats are wanna they wanna filibuster this bill that enjoys 90 as you say, 9 out of 10 Americans16:06 approve of proving your citizen to register. They approve, photo ID for voting, and they approve of cleaning voter rolls and getting people who are not citizens and dead people off the rolls.16:18 Those are all 89, 90, 91 percent issues. And so if the Democrats are going to oppose this bill, they need to come to the floor and tell the American people why. And16:30 senator Thune needs to make them do that, And he has it within his control to force what we're what we call the talking filibuster. And it's just not something that the16:42 senators are used to doing. Remember, I grew up The senate was the called the most deliberative body in the world. Well, make them deliberate. Don't16:54 let them do these fake filibusters where they throw out a cloture vote. It doesn't get 60 votes, and then they're on to the next thing. No. We do not want that.17:03 Go they go for this to make sure a cloture vote, I suspect many in our audience know what that is, but I wanna make sure you define a cloture vote, c l o t u r e, so people17:15 know what that is. And then tell us how this how the when when you say fake filibuster, what does that mean? And what does it mean to actually a filibuster? Now does it literally mean a person talk ad infinitum?17:27 So walk us through the procedures that are available to senator senator John Thune from what? South Dakota, I believe, senate majority leader, of course, republican.17:39 And the Republicans have 53 votes in the Senate. A couple of them don't stand very firm with the Republicans generally, the rule of thumb. But so walk us through, close your vote and how a filibuster17:51 would work. If you could just wave 1 and it work it's way through the senate now. Give us an impression of what that would look like.18:00 Well and like I say, I know just enough about the senate rules to be dangerous, but I've really been trying to learn a lot over the last few weeks because now we really have the opportunity. Unlike the house, the house18:12 of representatives, bills go through the rule the the rules committee. Every bill that comes to the floor of the US house goes to the rules committee, and the rules committee adopts18:23 a rule for that particular piece of legislation. And so that is the first vote in the house is always on the rule, and then they proceed, under that rule to18:35 consider a piece of legislation. In the senate, it doesn't work that way. In the senate, you have these basic rules that apply to everything depending on the category of,18:47 matter it is before the senate. It used to be, that all judicial nominations had to have, well, 1 time had to have 67 votes, and then it was 60 votes. But18:59 the reason that we have the 60 vote, we all hear about how, you know, the cloture vote failed. Cloture means, in parliamentary jargon,19:11 that, it is a motion to cut off debate. That's what it is. Cloture mean when you file cloture, that means to cut off debate. And,19:23 if you under the senate rules, you have to have 60 votes to cut off debate. That's what the cloture motion is. If it doesn't get 60 votes, then they will say cloture failed.19:36 That means the matter cannot be brought up. Everything is considered on whether it is a unless it is a privileged motion for legislation,19:48 you have to have, you have to be able to cut off debate in order to and that takes 60 votes in order to get to the matter the underlying matter, which only takes a a majority.20:00 It only takes a majority, 51 votes to actually pass. And we now have 50 Republican senators who have publicly signed on to vote yes on the Save America20:12 Act, but we can't get there unless we there are 2 ways to get to final passage. You've either got to go around the filibuster and20:24 actually filibuster and exhaust that path. And once you exhaust that path, then you the senate can then proceed to, consider and act20:36 on the, Save America Act and pass it with a majority vote. And all we're saying is to senator Thim, what normally has been happening, so the muscle memory of the senate is just atrophied.20:48 What has been happening the last maybe, decade? It didn't used to be this way. But what is what has been happening is that the majority leader moves21:00 for closure, it fails, and they move on to the next matter. It takes, you know, 20 minutes. It does so they don't ever have to even debate the bill. They don't even get to the bill. And21:12 so that's why it's really important for senator Thune to understand we're on to this. We get this now. And if he puts a closer vote up there on the floor, we we know that21:24 that's failure theater. He's that he's not really serious. He's promised us a vote on the bill, and we wanna hold him to that. And we want him to you know, think about this. The Democrats have now closed down21:36 DHS. They're holding up DHS funding. And because they're opposed to, deporting illegal aliens who are criminals and who are in this country have21:48 have been violated the law. So they they're they're they've we've got this partial shutdown by the not funding of this 1 agency. And so it seems to us that, you know, what21:59 we are begging senator Thune to do is to put the bill on the floor, put Save America Act on the floor, on the motion to proceed,22:11 not a cloture motion, a motion to proceed. And when that happens, that only has to have 51 votes. And once that happens, then22:23 senator Thune can move to, action of, vote on the underlying bill or the Democrats have to come to the floor and hold the floor. They each get 222:35 speeches, and that's it. They during the time when they are speaking, they can speak as long as they want to, but they cannot sit down. They cannot leave the room. They cannot eat. They cannot22:47 rest. When they do any of those things, they can't leave to go to the restroom. Any of those things, that's 1 of their speeches, and then they only have 1 more. Well, what Senator Thune22:59 and some others are saying is, well, we don't know what will happen then. But people who've worked around the senate for a long time, Ed Corrigan, president and CEO of Conservative Partnership Institute, Rachel23:11 Bovard, who's a these are 2, former senate staffers who know these rules frontwards and backwards. And both of them are very clear that what happens is that23:23 they'll talk a good game. These Democrats will talk a good game, but they will pretty soon be pretty exhausted. And that's when maybe there will be some negotiations or some discussions about,23:35 well, could they change this about the bill or that about the bill? And I'm prepared. We have, I had some suggestions for if they were going to negotiate. I know, you know, I'm I'm a former legislator, and I know23:46 sometimes you do have to negotiate. So I've already been thinking about that. What are the things that we could change without losing the essence and important principles of the bill? And there are a couple of things23:55 that we could, rearrange a little bit. But first, we have to make them talk. We have to get senator Thune to make the democrats talk. And if they want a filibuster,24:07 fine. We want to hear what they say. I've listened to all of it because I was in the gallery, for the Democrats' opposition to the Save America Act when I was on the floor a few weeks ago. So I know what24:18 they're gonna say, but love the American people haven't heard them. And when you hear them, it's crazy talk. It's just crazy talk. So make them tell the American people why they oppose, these 324:30 important principles. And we want to basically exhaust the filibuster and get to the ability to proceed on a majority vote. That's what we're workingShow more In this video 0:00 Prayer Network Welcome and Expert Introduction6:16 The SAVE America Act: Securing Elections24:37 Senate Strategy: Motion to Proceed and Talking Filibuster43:05 Calls to Action, Prayer, Worship, and Closing
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