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Dr. Jim Garlow is a lifelong pastor who most recently served in San Diego, California, and now leads Well Versed, a ministry dedicated to bringing biblical
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World Prayer Network Welcome & WallBuilders Pastors' Briefing 0:31 Well, you welcome to the World Prayer Network. Thank you for being with us. My name is Jim Garlow. I'll remind you the purpose of our call is very, very simple. We pray for holiness, for righteousness, for biblical0:42 justice as opposed to social justice, and truth to prevail throughout the land and the nations of the earth. If you're part of the media, part of the press, we ask you to step off the call, because nothing ever reported0:53 here is to be shared in the media. And finally, we're way beyond the issue of partisanship, Republican versus Democrat, or even right versus left. Where we are squarely planted is right versus wrong, good1:04 versus evil, light versus darkness, biblical truth as opposed to anti scriptural constructs, the things of God as opposed to the things of the evil 1. That being said, the official beginning of the World Prayer1:16 Network call is always the sounding of the shofar. So all the way from Beit Hoga, Israel. Robert Winger, our official shofar sounder. Robert?1:44 Well, we have several guests tonight, and I'm really happy to introduce them to you. We we're gonna have a number of them. And here here's who we're gonna hear from. Gonna hear from Dave and Tim Barton. They have1:54 something incredibly important to tell you about. Then we're gonna hear from Bunny Pounds. She's gonna tell you about something that's gonna bless you so much, America Reads the Bible. Wait till you hear about that2:06 1. And then you're gonna hear from my friend, Mark Belisle, who has an organization activating government elected officials all over the globe. Country by country, some amazing things2:18 happening. You'll be very encouraged. And then you're gonna get an update, from Cleida Mitchell on what is happening with the Save America Act in Washington, DC. Okay. That2:30 being the case, let's just get right in and go to our first guest. Thank you so much. I'm talking right now with 2 of my favorite people in the whole world, David Barton and his son, Tim Barton. The ministry is called2:42 Wallbuilders. It's out of Texas. It's the finest of the fine. And most of you have heard them probably many times. So if you haven't, you need to check out their website. Go hear them speak, invite them to come speak.2:53 They have a major event coming right away that you need to get word to your pastors. Dave or Tim, what have you? Tell me. What's coming?3:01 Well, coming up in April, it is the 20 first and 20 second. It's actually an annual event for us, but it's a little different because it's around the 2 fiftieth. It's a pastor's briefing that we do in Washington3:12 DC. And some of the dad how long have have you been doing this? Because I've I've only been a wall builder's really working since 20 10, although I was a child laborer for you many years ago. But3:24 full time as an adult since 20 10, how long have you been doing this?3:29 Yeah. Back back in the days of slavery, you don't remember what we were doing back there. So that's that's understandable. So it's been probably about 25 years, Tim. I'd say that we've been doing this. It's we found that3:41 so many people did not know their own congressman. They they have a view of congress based on the same 8 or 10 people that show up on every program, and that's kinda what they think of Congress. And there are3:52 so many solid people there, solid believers, solid biblical people, even pastors serving in political office that that serve there that are unfamiliar to most people. And so we thought, you know, it'd be really good4:04 for them to see a different view of congress than what they get over the media and to see a view where that you have a lot of congressmen who are as spiritually minded as many of us are out in the grassroots, and that's4:15 a big issue for them and to get a briefing from them and see things that you don't see normally and don't hear on the news. So I'd say 25 years ago is when we started doing that and we wanna do it for pastors because4:26 they're the ones who maybe feel like that DC stuff is is not for them And yet, when you find there's really godly people there, godly men and women, it it it connects with the pastor and church as well.4:38 Well and on top of it, Jim, you know, because you've you've been with us, to have a tour of the US Capitol, 1 of those after hour tours, where you get to go to all these rooms. You're you're seeing the statues, the the4:49 monuments, the paintings, but the significant thing that we highlight is is the Christian heritage that is on full display. Most people haven't seen that that they don't even know what's there, and how many actually5:00 pastors were involved in the founding of this nation. Actually, there are statues of pastors, in some of the paintings. There's paintings of actual pastors who were founding fathers who helped build and shape this5:11 nation. And so that the fun thing we do is on Tuesday night, we will take a private tour after hours of the US Capitol, and my dad and I will tell a lot of the history, reintroduce the pastors not just to the5:23 history, but also to the reality that it was it was the Christian leaders. The pastors were the ones who were shaping the thinking and forming the nation more than largely any other voice. And then, dad,5:35 as you mentioned, we have on the next day, so many congressmen and senators that will come in and and just openly share with them that there'll be times of q and a where you can ask as honest and personal questions as5:46 you want to or as political as you want it to be. But but, Jim, you know from the prayer event, that you did not that long ago in DC, there are so many congressmen and congresswomen5:58 who love and serve God, who wanna honor God in what they do. And and most Americans, most Christians, and certainly most pastors, they don't understand the deep Christian connection of pastors of6:10 faith in the church, in government, and politics. And so we really wanna try to introduce pastors to so much of the history, but then also to the really strong remnant of worldview bible6:22 minded believers that are serving in congress, in the house, and the senate to try to restore that biblical foundation. And it's something that, again, we do this every year for 20, whatever, 25 years,6:34 but this is gonna be a super unique time because it's a great time to be in DC with so many 200 and fiftieth celebrations going on, so many fun displays and exhibits. So it's it's a great reason to be there6:46 anyway. But then when you get to have a Christian heritage tour, a private after hours tour of the US Capitol, and then get to connect and meet so many incredible congressmen and congresswomen, so many senators. It's a6:57 very unique experience and opportunity. They can find out about it at wall builders dot com. It's April 20 first and 20 second. It is for pastors and ministry leaders. So for many listening, this is something that your7:09 pastor needs to be part of. In fact, if if maybe your pastor's like, man, I don't know if we can afford this, maybe you can help lead the effort to take up a a collection for the pastors to be able to come. This is a7:20 unique opportunity for pastors and ministry leaders to understand the Christian foundation of the nation.7:27 I've been out in a number of tours of the capital, and I've been on a number with, Dave and Tim Barton. Let me tell you a category. I'm not just saying that because they're on the line right now. Their tours are7:38 phenomenal. I've done a number of times. I would do it again anytime I can. They, the Bartons have a library in Texas that has, I don't know,7:49 160000 primary documents or how many?7:54 So we in a collaborative collection, because we also do some work with our our friend Glenn Vak. He's a nonprofit MercuryOne. So in the big collaborative collection, there's probably close to that hundred and 40, hundred8:05 50, hundred 60000. What we personally own is closer to 100000, documents primarily from the founding era. It is the largest private collection of founding era documents in the8:17 nation.8:18 And they bring those, not all of them, obviously, but they bring a number of those with them, and you actually get to see Yeah. With eyes holding your own hands, documents, from the the primary documents just so you8:30 understand. That means that's from the person who wrote it. When I was a doctoral dissertation, they would say, are you going to primary sources? Are you going to secondary sources? Or even worse, tertiary sources? You8:40 wanna get the primary documentation anytime you can. The person who actually wrote what they wrote rather than just somebody who wrote about what they wrote. And so they have the actual founding documents, as you just8:51 heard over 100000. That's remarkable. And that date again is April 21 and 22. Give the website 1 more time.8:59 Wall builders dot com.9:01 And what we want you to do, folks, if you're not a pastor, contact your pastor. Would I be correct, Dave and Tim, that a youth pastor could come, a children's pastor could come, the worship pastor could come?9:13 And anybody on staff at a church or that helps lead a ministry, we'd love for them to be there.9:20 Wow. Okay. Now folks take advantage of this. Please contact your pastor. Talk to some of your people if need be. If it's a small church and the pastor can't afford it, get about 4 or 5 friends to fund them and get them9:31 there. This is life changing, and I use those words guardedly. This is life changing, so get them there. And I wanna compliment the Bartons. I wanna thank as we sign off here, or before we sign off, anything9:43 else you wanna say, David or Tim?9:46 No, sir. That was it.9:47 But this this 250 is is a great time to rediscover what made America special, and you will see that on the tour. It's stuff you did not get in history class, it's stuff you do not see on the news, but you will9:59 see the genuine actual stuff. You will find out exactly why America is so special.10:05 What you're witnessing here is something else very special, this father son team. We have a view in American culture that's Greco Roman, Greek Roman, which is a wrong understanding10:17 of transition in life where you a runner hands a baton, the first runner just stops and the second runner just runs. Instead, the Hebrewistic model is father to son or parent to child, and10:29 they run together for a season. And 1 gets raised up. What you're watching, I think, is the best transition I have witnessed a10:41 multi generational, 2 generational transition I've ever seen of a ministry. Here's the here's the thesis. You can hand a ministry on to a child, but you cannot hand an anointing.10:53 If the anointing is not there, there's a problem. And what we have watched at Wallbuilders, Dave is still healthy, and he's got lots of years left. He may have another 20, 30 year run. I don't know. He's11:05 got a long ways to go. But the fact is, Tim has been raised up, and they are a powerhouse together in a most 1 of the most beautiful ways I have ever witnessed in a a11:17 parachurch ministry or a church situation. And it's a joy to watch that. I watch the dynamics of the family when I'm around them, and it will bless your socks off. So it is worth11:28 coming to see them interact. They teach together. It's really a a fascinating phenomenon to watch. I just compliment you, Dave and Tim, for what you've done under the anointing and the spirits direction11:41 in the sustaining and developing and expanding of this ministry. We love you. We love you so much. So, folks, call your pastor, any of the members of staff, help raise the funds in that church to get them there.11:53 And 1 more time, the the, where they go to the on on the wall builder site, is there a particular thing they need to look for?11:59 Yeah. They they they can go to a tab for events, but, actually, there's 3 sections. There's just an entire section for the church. 4 pastors, if you click on that, it'll be very evident and visible on that page.12:10 Wall builders dot12:12 com.12:13 Wall builders dot com. Thank you, Dave and Tim Barton. Blessings on you guys.12:17 Thank you, sir.12:18 Thanks, Tim. Appreciate all you do.12:20 Bless you. We're talking now with Bunny Pounds who's got an incredible program going. Bunny, tell about the organization that you're a part of FIRST, and then we're gonna talk about the major event coming up.America Reads the Bible: Leaders Proclaim Scripture 12:32 Talk about Christians Engaged.12:34 Yeah. I started Christians Engaged in 20 19 with the idea that we needed to not just talk about Christians voting, but mobilize Christians to vote. And we built a pledge to pray, vote,12:46 engage. We track every election in the country, and we partner with ministries and churches all over the country to help Christians regularly pray for our elected officials to vote in every12:58 election and to start engaging. We've built about 8 curriculum projects to teach people about biblical worldview and civics and even how to run for office and have a Gen z13:10 program and a church outreach program, and we love what we get to do.13:14 That is fabulous. Buddy, you're not a stranger to the World Prayer Network family. You've been here before, and I had you tell the same story when you were on last time. Before we get into the topic while you're on here,13:24 just just take another 30 seconds and tell about that incredible interaction you had with the IRS that the IRS blew their cover, exposed who they really were, and they got their wrist royally slapped for what they did13:36 to you.13:37 Yeah. 18 months into our ministry, we got a letter from the Internal Revenue Service denying our tax exempt status. And because we were teaching civics from a biblical point of view, and we would actually go through13:48 scriptures related to the bible and how it applies to how they make decisions in politics. And they said bible teachings this isn't an official IRS letter. Bible teachings are typically13:59 affiliated with the Republican Party and candidates, quote and end quote. So I walked that letter over to Kelly Shackelford and First Liberty Institute. We took on the IRS and beat them back in 2114:11 days. And I love that our our case is actually was in the case that Mike Farris just did to get rid of the Johnson amendment that's going through the process right now. So, I told my kids,14:23 mom had a part in hopefully getting rid of the Johnson amendment. That's gonna be epic when it happens.14:28 That was a significant moment. Thank you for standing. Well, tell us about a major event coming in Washington DC very soon.14:37 Yeah. So 2 and a half years ago, I was in the Museum of the Bible, and I had an encounter with the lord about Ezra. And I had this random thought, like, wouldn't it be awesome if our national leaders from all spheres of14:49 influence, demographics, and denominations would humble themselves and tell the American people that they find their source of life in scripture, in the Bible, and, and15:01 compel the American people to read the Bible and go into discipleship for our 200 and fiftieth birthday with the idea that we really need leaders. We're in a leadership crisis in our nation and we need leaders to15:13 arise that know formally, fully who they are in god, who they are in, the big story of god, which is all of scripture, and we'll go out and do mighty exploits. So,15:25 yeah, I started, like, by faith, as you know, January last year. It's been about 14, 15 months here. I think I tracked 225 Zoom meetings last year, but15:37 we somehow, by the grace of god, planted a whole bunch of vision in people's hearts, and we are doing this April eighteenth through 25 with 115 national ministries signed on,15:48 6 cabinet members, 6 governors, 20 members of congress, Christian celebrities like Patricia Heaton and Candace Cameron Bure is my national spoke spokesperson along with Cameron and16:00 BJ Arnett from the Forge movie. But we are having an opening celebration April 18 with all of these incredible guests, and it'll be aired on Great American Pure Flix,16:12 live stream to the nation from Mark Batterson's church. And then the next 7 days, this is gonna be awesome. We are gonna read the Bible, Genesis to Revelation,16:24 like 12 hours a day, 9 AM to 9 PM Eastern Standard Time. So, do the math in your time zone. Genesis to Revelation and we even have 16 worship leaders coming16:36 in on their own dime to fill in the gaps each hour with prayer and worship. Everybody from Danny Gokey to Leland to Kim Walker Smith to Meredith Andrews and others. I'm just thrilled, and16:48 we give got the opportunity to shepherd this, and it's gonna be awesome for the American people.16:54 So, again, the dates are April 18 to 29. Is that right?16:58 25. So April 18 to 25.17:01 25. Correction. And then that starts it starts on a Saturday night Mhmm. With a, an event. And then the the scripture starts Sunday morning, April17:12 19. Right?17:14 That is correct. And, people should really think about coming to DC. I mean, this is gonna be a national moment unlike any I'm ever gonna be a part of. We're never gonna17:26 have this moment again, to celebrate the 200 and fiftieth birthday of a country and to see our national leaders read scripture. So we're gonna have an interactive experience in the room with art and music. We have17:38 our own art gallery and my friend Mindy Oden's amazing 66 paintings of the Messiah showing up in all books of the Bible, and the Dead Sea Scrolls are at the museum. So get on a plane, take your kids17:49 and grandkids come. We have 12000 seats at the museum and we have a few tickets left for the opening celebration. So, if you would like to be in the room for that, come to that and then the live think about how18:01 you can use it in your church, in your living room, in your business, in your community. If you've never shared the gospel with your employees, why not play, you know, the founding document of our country, the18:12 scriptures, to your employees all week in your office. So there's so many ways, and we can talk more about that, but people can use the live stream in their life, but it's exciting.18:24 12000 seats. Now you're talking about over the course of that all those days, how many seats at a given time? Is it about 400?18:33 Yeah. About 400 seats where we people get a 3 hour ticket, to come sit in the bible reading, and then they also have access to our our art gallery and we have18:45 about 12 ministries that will be partnering and tabling there and praying over people and signing people up for Bible reading and discipleship programs. The end of this is not just to have a splash in the pan event.18:57 The end of this is to break complacency and apathy off the body of Christ as it relates to Bible reading and spending time with the lord and devotion to him. But also19:09 to see all the media that is gonna be around this. The I'm trying to create a media circus to amplify the importance of our testimonies related to the bible. And doctor Garlow, you and19:20 Rosemary are reading, I think, in numbers, if I remember correctly. So we want all these testimonies to be highlighted and for people to see these social media clips as these people read19:32 scripture. And I'm telling you, having watched some of the pre recordings of some of them, listening to our secretary of war, Pete Hegseth, read Romans 15 or Scott Turner19:43 or, you know, members of Congress, it is just an absolute deep experience for people to see our leaders, read scripture and nothing else. It's just a it's a19:55 powerful thing.19:56 You'll start with Genesis 1 on Sunday morning, April, 19. Correct?20:01 Yes.20:02 Yes. I know you get through because, Rosemary I'm reading numbers 13. Rosemary's reading numbers 14, and we're, like, at 8 in the evening. So we'll make it through Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus,20:14 and well into numbers in that first, 9 AM to 9 PM block of time.20:20 Yes. We actually divided up the whole bible. Most audio and video bibles are about 72 to 74 hours, so we planned it for 84 hours, used AI, and used other20:32 means to manually my vice president, Ben Quine. What a hero he is to have died divided up the bible, planned the whole agenda, and then we had to recruit, you know, people that can read hard passages. You20:44 guys volunteered for that. Thank you, doctor Garlow.20:48 I have the passage so you'll know with a lot of difficult names. However, I could have passed that off on my wife. I was happy to take it because I I've21:00 preached on this passage, and I love this passage because, generally, people do not know. They all know Joshua and Caleb. They know those 2. But of the 12 spies, they don't know the names of the 10.21:12 I've started many a sermon, various places I preach giving their names and said, who are these people? And nobody knows. I've had maybe 1 hand raised, in each congregation, but almost nobody knows.21:24 These are the 10 losers. These are the 10 guys that gave bad reports. And I'm gonna say their names as not to record them for posterity, but to show a21:36 lack of faith why nobody names their kids after them. That's 1 of them. But Joshua, Caleb, I named 1 of my sons Joshua and not there's a lot of Joshua's and Caleb's out there, but21:48 nobody, Palti and Sabu and all these other names, nobody ever heard of because these guys wouldn't trust God. So I chose the verse of the chapter with the hard hard names because I like22:00 that chapter because it shows the contrast between the the small percent who will stand for god and the majority that won't trust him.22:08 Well, and the beauty of this is exactly what you just said. When people tune in to see doctor Garlow and Rosemary read the bible, what we hope you know, you might not be familiar with numbers 13 and 14 very much,22:20 but what you're gonna discover is that god loves to speak through every every fabric of scripture and he loves to weave his story with your story and I believe that people that22:32 are sitting in the theater or watching it online or experiencing your social media clip or whatever happens with that in the years to come, they're going to go, wow. Oh, god can speak to me through that22:44 passage. It's amazing. So, yeah, scripture speaks and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word.22:51 Will you be on the sixth floor of the gathering room or the fifth floor of the World Stage Theater?22:55 We're gonna be at the World Stage Theater. The our art gallery will be in the gathering room. Yep.23:01 Very good. Very impressive what you put together, Bunny. I really admire this. So let's, recover a couple things. April eighteenth, Saturday ninth, the kickoff. It it it is that at the Museum of the Bible as well?23:13 It's at Mark Batterson's Church, National Community Church. So that has about 900 seats. So if you'd like to come and support the cause, we'd love to have you. There's a few seats left, and you get if23:24 you get a ticket for the opening, it is a little pricey, but it's to help us fund the 2000000 dollar project. You also get a ticket for the opening, the very beginning of the Bible, which is gonna be amazing.23:36 So we'd love to have you join us in DC, bring your families, but all the tickets for the Bible reading are only 10 dollars more than the museum charges. So you get free admission to that museum, the Dead Sea Scrolls, all23:48 of it, plus our full Bible reading for very little 10 dollars more than you would pay the museum. So it we're we're pretty much just giving it away.23:57 I think Mark matters in several campuses. Is that the eighth Street campus, or is that the what's called, the capital turnaround?24:03 The capital turnaround is where we're gonna be. Yep.24:05 Very familiar with it. Okay, folks. Come to come to Washington, DC, and then the website, by the way. What website is it?24:12 Yeah. America reads the bible dot com. America reads the bible dot com. You will see all the worship leaders, all the readers, everything, and we'll be putting out the agenda very soon. So,24:24 join us. We'd love to have you and plan how you're using the live stream to share the word of god, friends. This is our moment.24:31 Does it end on Saturday?24:34 Yes, Saturday night at 9 PM after the final, chapter of Revelation. Matt Gilman is gonna sing amazing song about the holiness of god and Franklin Graham is doing a gospel24:46 presentation at the end of the book of Revelation. So it's gonna be amazing.24:50 Way to go. Way to go. Well, go to America Reads the Bible dot Com. Dot com and that you can sign up, they can sign up there for livestream if25:02 they can't come.25:03 Yes. Sign up now and gather people around it. Yes.25:07 Sounds great. Bunny Pounds, so proud of you and what you're doing. It's quite amazing. God's been on you. Oh, by the way, the way she record we didn't tell this Bunny. The way Bunny recorded me recruited me to25:19 do this, Bunny is a go getter. She is aggressive. Can you not tell that? And, she had contacted us. I was like, well, I don't think we'll be able to do it. I don't think we'll be able25:31 to do it. And she got a bunch of people signed up, and there we were in a public venue, a public setting, at a very prestigious conference. She's speaking,25:45 a bit. Jim Garlow, you did not sign up. You are going to read 1 of these passages. Do you hear me, Jim Garlow? You're going to read 1 of these passages. So get on the board. So yes,25:57 ma'am. Well, it it is your vision and and the thing that you were created to do, brother. So it would be it would be a miss if I did not have you a part of this. So thank you for saying yes.26:08 Oh, thank you, money money pounds. America reads the bible dot com. Go to it. Sign up, folks. At least if you can't get to DC, make sure you watch it online as much as you possibly can. Help spread the word in26:20 your church. Get to your pastor. Tell them about it. This is amazing that the word of god declared orally over our nation. Remember the word, we think a word as being26:32 oral. The word came, then it was put in print, Now it's going back to its original format. That's pretty powerful thought, folks. And we could be a part of that. Thank26:44 you so much, father. I ask blessing upon Bunny. If there are a team, the 2000000 they have to raise, all the details with hundreds of people involved.26:56 I pray blessing on her and anointing on this event beyond what she could even imagine, what any of us could possibly know, the declaration of the word of God27:08 going out across our nation. In the mighty name of Jesus, we pray. Amen. Amen. I just wanna pray as we close out money, 1 more thing that when we dedicated our brand new27:19 auditorium, 14 years ago, right now, we moved this new auditorium. It's Skyline Church of San Diego. I was then pastoring there. And so the day before our first Sunday, I had27:31 everybody come in and I in the auditorium is a large auditor. I see it's about 2000, and I had people just getting clusters, 77 different clusters. So I had people with signs, 1 through 77, and they were all27:43 assigned to section 3 in 1 hour. And that whole cluster would have open Bibles, and they had 1 hour, and they each of them read 1 70 seventh of the Bible. And27:55 1 hour later, we'd read the entire scriptures out loud in an auditorium as its first act. Then they moved out hundreds of people all across the campus walking,28:08 praying, prayer walking, praying with insight on-site to the church. So you are helping on this 250 year to help declare the word of God over our nation in a profound way. So proud of28:19 you. Bless you, and thank you for coming on.28:22 Thank you so much, sir. Appreciate you.28:24 Yep. Bye bye. Well, I've got my good friend, Mark Belial, with us right now. I want you to know him. He's no stranger to us. World Prayer Network, we know him. He has a global reach, a global impact. I've traveled to aShow more In this video 0:00 World Prayer Network Welcome & WallBuilders Pastors' Briefing12:21 America Reads the Bible: Leaders Proclaim Scripture28:25 Global Strategy, 250th Pledge & SAVE Act Update58:47 Prayers for Events, Worship & Closing Call
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