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Today, we review Capitol Hill efforts to fund the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, root out government waste and fraud, and discuss the contentious hearings over the Southern Poverty Law Center. We also examine multiple tensions regarding Israel, the U.S., and Iran, the growing public opinion division over same sex marriage, New York state’s gestating parent law, and primary elections.
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Today, we review Capitol Hill efforts to fund the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, root out government waste and fraud, and discuss the contentious hearings over the Southern Poverty Law Center. We also examine multiple tensions regarding Israel, the U.S., and Iran, the growing public opinion division over same sex marriage, New York state’s gestating parent law, and primary elections. ...more Show the full description Show less Today, we review Capitol Hill efforts to fund the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, root out government waste and fraud, and discuss the contentious hearings over the Southern Poverty Law Center. We also examine multiple tensions regarding Israel, the U.S., and Iran, the growing public opinion division over same sex marriage, New York state’s gestating parent law, and primary elections.
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In this video 0:00 SPLC Under Fire in Congressional Hearing2:28 Election Primaries and Iran Helicopter Incident12:00 Freedom's Purpose and Israel-Iran Tensions18:00 Deep Dive: SPLC Scandals and Cultural Shifts30:00 SPLC Exposed: Hate Map and BeyondComments No comments yet. Start the conversation.
SPLC Under Fire in Congressional Hearing 0:01 From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington DC, bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and0:12 newsmakers, all from a biblical world view. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.0:19 You run a scam, you become the standard, you don't get prosecuted, you make a ton of money. They got 800000000 assets, 700000000 in an endowment. Such a deal. And they would have gotten away with0:31 it, but for the oversight of Congress and more importantly, the work of the justice department.0:36 That was house judiciary committee chairman Jim Jordan of Ohio highlighting the alleged scams run by the Southern Poverty Law Center as it targeted conservative and Christian organizations. Welcome to this Tuesday, June0:47 9th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for joining us. Well, coming up, house speaker Mike Johnson was at the White House today where discussions reportedly focused heavily on0:58 reauthorizing FISA section 7 0 2, a key tool for national security. The controversial measure expires on Friday. The reauthorization effort hit a roadblock after president Trump's1:10 selection of Bill Pulte to serve as interim director of the National Intelligence Agency. Senator Steve Dames joins us more with more later. Plus, Iran shoots
1:21 down a US military helicopter, raising new questions about the fragile ceasefire. Jonathan Hessen joins us live from Jerusalem with the latest on the incident and the recent exchanges of fire between
1:33 Israel and Iran. And North Carolina congressman Mark Harris will join us with takeaways from today's Southern Poverty Law Center hearing that took place on Capitol Hill. All of that and more straight ahead.
1:48 Alright. Let's begin on Capitol Hill where the house judiciary committee put the Southern Poverty Law Center under the microscope over its use of the so called hate map and hate group label that was used to stigmatize
2:00 conservative and Christian organizations. SPLC's interim CEO Brian Fair appeared before Congress for the 1st time after being subpoenaed by the committee. Fare was pressed about the
2:12 organization's practices and their use of their influence. Joining me now to, discuss today's hearing is Washington stand reporter, Casey Harper. So, Casey, what were lawmakers most
2:24 focused on in their questioning of Brian Ferrer today?
2:27 Yeah. Thanks, Tony. Hearing is a long time coming and lawmakers are really questioning whether SPLC has moved beyond their sort of historic civil rights roots and now using that hate group designation to target
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2:39 conservative and Christian organizations as really just a political, wing of the Democrat party in the left. By the way, that includes the Family Research Council who's a part of that hate map somehow. Now many committee
2:50 members, including Texas congressman Chip Roy, pointed to the fact that SPLC targeted Christians for their beliefs, but not, say, extreme Muslim organizations. Here's an exchange, clip here.
3:02 How many extremist Islamic groups do you have of the 1500 or so organizations you have on your hate map?
3:09 Again, anyone can can go to our website.
3:11 My office has been looking over it. We can't really find 1.
3:14 Now another theme of the hearing is, of course, follow the money, Tony. The hearing explored concerns that the SPLC may have exaggerated these domestic extremist threats to mislead donors about their work and
3:26 priorities and to raise money. Here's another clip of Chip Roy highlighting how SPLC targeted FRC.
3:32 The Family Research Council remains on the hate map because it meets the criteria that we use for Trump.
3:38 Criteria?
3:40 The the Family Research Council is an anti LGBTQ
3:44 Okay. So on your website, you used to have language on there defending your position on the Family Research Council, and you had language saying that other groups like focus on the family are not included, and
3:56 you use that as your defense. Well, that language is now gone, and fam focus on the family is now noted as a hate group.
4:05 So a big hearing today because it was the 1st time SPLC's interim CEO, Brian Fair, had to testify, But I think this is really just the beginning of the scrutiny for SPLC, Tony.
4:14 I think you're right after conversations I've had with members of Congress. Now we've known here at FRC for a long time that SPLC has targeted Christian and conservative organizations, and it's contributed to violence. I
4:26 mean, we saw it here, at FRC. Now SPLC is clearly a partisan progressive organization. But, you know, we're gonna let congress dig into this. I think there's a lot more here.
4:38 I think this is tip the iceberg. But, anyway, I'm gonna I'm gonna save that for later, Casey. We'll talk about it a little bit later in the program. So, let's, let's turn to some election news outside of Washington DC.
4:49 There were some primaries that are underway, as we speak in 4 states. Talk about it.
4:54 That's right. Midterms are getting closer and closer. And today, voters in 4 states, Maine, South Carolina, Nevada, and North Dakota headed to the polls. In fact, I believe all those polls are still open. They headed
5:05 there today with several closely watched, primaries underway. Now in Maine, oyster farmer, Graham Plattner, he leads the Democratic senate primary. He's really a political newcomer, but he's facing a lot of scrutiny
5:17 over explicit messages and allegations from former partners, among other things, I'll say. Now Plattner, he's still expected to win that nomination, and he would then face off against Republican senator Susan
5:29 Collins in the general and really a key race that, as close as things are, could determine control of the senate. Now down in South Carolina and over west in Nevada, Republicans are also in competitive primaries. That
5:41 includes a Republican governor's race that features representative Nancy Mace as well as a pretty close, race in Las Vegas, Tony.
5:49 Alright. Well, if you live in those, states, those 4 states, you still have time to go and vote. So remember, pray, vote, and stand. So I guess Platner, this, oyster farmer's new you said he's new to the political,
6:01 landscape?
6:02 Yes. Yes. He is.
6:03 Right. Coming out of his shell, I guess.
6:05 I apologize. Okay.
6:07 Alright. Oh, well, I will save that for later too.
6:09 Yeah.
6:09 Alright. Let's look at some international news news, Casey. A US military helicopter crash, near the Strait of Hormuz is raising tensions and, again, threatening to unravel the
6:21 fragile ceasefire as, Iran is apparently behind the downing of that helicopter. What's the latest?
6:27 Yeah. That that comment was a pearl of wisdom, I'll say. But Oh, okay. Back on back on, the news here, president Trump announced a pretty kind of, it fell out of nowhere, but it came from his true social that Iran shot
6:38 down a US Apache helicopter in the Strait of Hormuz. And he says that the US has to respond calling it an attack on American forces, which seems to be, a clear threat of future attacks on Iran. And, so Iran
6:50 is warning and saying, hey. Foreign militaries in the region, this is just gonna keep happening to you as part of accidents and being caught up in the crossfire and being off of our borders. Thankfully, the reports are
7:00 that the the 2 crew members in the helicopter are safe, but it just highlights how how fragile things are there and raises the question, how much fire can a ceasefire take?
7:10 That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Very interesting. Alright, Casey. We're gonna talk to you a little bit later. Thanks for the, the update on the headlines. Alright. Let's, I wanna continue that conversation. Joining us now from
7:19 Capitol Hill is senator Steve Daines of Montana. He serves on the senate foreign relations committee among other committees. Senator Daines, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
7:29 Hey. Couldn't join you, Tony.
7:30 Alright. So I wanna get your response, your thoughts, the president today posting that, he blamed Iran for the shooting down of this US helicopter gunship over the Strait of Hormuz and said the the United
7:42 States must, you know, respond to this attack. So so as, Casey was just talking about, how much fire can a cease fire take?
7:54 Well, I mean, Tony, I don't trust the Iranians in the 3rd night further than I can throw them, frankly. This is a regime that's been at war with the United States and the Western world and Israel
8:06 for for 47 years. Pretty tough to negotiate with terrorists. I applaud the president in trying to bring an end to this conflict. But look, let's not forget that
8:17 this is a regime that funnels nearly 1000000000 dollars a year to Hezbollah, hundreds of millions to Hamas, untold millions to the Houthis, The primary disruptors
8:29 of the stability of the Middle East and the Western world are the proxy terror groups that Iran is the chief sponsor of. So when we see what's happened here most recently, ceasefires are pretty tough to
8:41 enforce with regime that has an ideology that believes each morning that death to America is the best choice and death to Israel is the next best choice.
8:49 Well, if a cease fire is hard to enforce, I would think a peace agreement, a permanent peace agreement would be even harder. Would it not?
8:57 It really would be. And this is just the the quandary that we're at the moment is trying to find a peaceful path. But in in this senator's view, the peaceful path will be,
9:10 the removal ultimately the regime of the of in Iran. That'll be up to the people of Iran. That's not something the US changed. But by by putting these intense pressures, the economic pressures on Iran,
9:22 just all the words we're hearing is that there's a lot of economic problems in Iran. Hopefully, that will cause Iranians to rise up and displace the regime and put in place leaders. Tony, think about
9:33 it for a moment. You and I are both old to remember what Iran was like before the fall in 79. Think about it. We literally could have a a regime someday that would sign the Abraham Accord. Can you
9:45 imagine the peace dividends we'd have for the world and stability in the Middle East? And I've been chatting of late with many of our great allies in the Middle East, whether it's the Saudis, the Emirates, the
9:57 Bahrainians, those that, we work with in in Qatar. Just imagine for a moment if they were a peaceful regime, what that would mean and how that would allow us to redeploy military
10:09 assets from that very troubled part of the world because of Iran, primarily, other place in the world where certainly we need some help.
10:15 Under different leadership, going back to its historical position in the Middle East, Iran could actually be our strongest ally outside of Israel.
10:25 Tell you what, you look at the the people of Iran, they are strong allies. The the people of Iran are very pro American, and you can't just put Iran into 1 1, homogeneous box because you've
10:37 got different ethnic groups. You got you got the Azeris. You got, you know, 20, 25000000 Azeris up there in the northern part. And think about what we're doing with Azerbaijan right now. Of course, it borders Iran. They
10:49 just signed that historic peace deal that president Trump led between president Aliyev, president of Azerbaijan, and prime minister Pashinyan. And by the way, he had a very good election here this week, the president of
10:58 Armenia. We had a Shiite Muslim country, the Azeris, sign a peace agreement with 1 of the oldest Christian country in the world, which is Armenia. And and think if that that attitude and that perspective
11:10 spread further to the south with an Iranian regime here, they'd wanna have the same kind of goals and aspirations. It'd be a tremendous boost to the free world and a tremendous dividend of
11:22 peace throughout the Middle East and, frankly, the Western world.
11:25 It certainly would take, care of a lot of our international security issues. And and that's where I wanna go now that the house we got a little over 2 minutes left, senator Daines. The house speaker was at the White
11:36 House today discussing reauthorization of FISA section 7 0 2. That advancement died in the senate Friday, this past Friday. It expires
11:48 this coming Friday. What's the latest?
11:51 Yeah. Well, let's just keep in mind why this is such an important provision. This is a key tool that our intelligence community uses that has has there there's a number of of
Freedom's Purpose and Israel-Iran Tensions
12:03 publicly reported open source examples of where they thwarted attacks here on the homeland terror attacks, and there's many classified examples too that we can't talk about. They helped disrupt
12:15 plan ISIS attacks. They helped take out Al Qaeda leader Al Zahiri back in 20 22. And in fact, in February of this year, it was 7 0 2 tools
12:27 that allowed us to get El Mencho, that cartel leader down in Mexico who had killed thousands of Americans to allowing fentanyl into our country. These these are the horrible evil cartels
12:39 in Mexico. It was 7 0 2 that allowed us to get him and take him out
12:43 with, you know, the Mexican forces were able to deliver that,
12:43 thanks to 7 0 2 intelligence. Able to deliver that thanks to 7 0 2 intelligence. So we cannot allow this important tool to go dark at the end of this week. We need to get a short term extension
12:55 put in place to allow negotiations to continue with Democrats that could get the 60 votes needed in the US senate to get this extended probably, hopefully, 2 or 3 years.
13:05 About 40 seconds left, senator. Are you concerned or are are you do you feel like the concerns that have been raised about the use of this of domestic surveillance that
13:16 people getting caught up in this dragnet? Are you are are you convinced that those concerns have been resolved?
13:24 You know, I I've always been 1 with a little bit of a libertarian streak being from Montana and fear of big government and how these kind of tools could be used to abuse power and can be used for political purposes.
13:36 That's always gonna be something we gotta keep a sharp eye on. And and, if if I had sole authority, I would probably tighten up a few things here on on the 7 0 2 provisions. But I it's all about trade offs, Tony,
13:48 about about holding this important tool up versus tightening up a bit. So The elegant balance. Towards it right now. Absolutely.
13:55 Senator, thanks for joining us. Always great to see you, my friend. Stick with us, folks. We're back after this.
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14:31 Exodus chapter 9 verse 1 says thus says the Lord God of the Hebrews, let my people go that they may serve me. You see America has freedom for a
14:42 purpose. The question is, are we living by that purpose today? In scripture, deliverance and
14:54 freedom is never an end in itself. It is a liberation unto obedience, to worship, and to a covenantal relationship. God's demand to
15:06 pharaoh was not freedom for freedom's sake, but freedom so his people could identify with and belong to and serve him. Freedom is not used to serve
15:18 God will not endure. 1 of the founders actually echoed a similar warning, Thomas Jefferson wrote, indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that
15:30 God is just and his justice cannot sleep forever. See the founders understood we as a nation would be
15:42 accountable to God for what he had granted to us. They sought freedom for a purpose, and that freedom was given to us as a nation for that same
15:54 purpose to serve God, to honor him, and to live as a people under his authority. In this 250th anniversary year, we must
16:06 ask the question, are we living by that purpose today as a nation? Lord, we thank you for the godly
16:17 foundation and heritage of our states. Lord, we will return to an understanding of the freedom that you've granted to us. If freedom has a name, his name is Jesus. And freedom has a
16:29 purpose. It is to honor and glorify you. And I pray that our nation would return to that understanding of the purpose of the freedom that you have granted to
16:41 us. We thank you, father. By faith, we pray that we would return to that purpose. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen.
17:01 Welcome back to Washington Watch. We're just weeks away from America's 250th anniversary when we'll celebrate today when 56 courageous men risked everything for the cause of freedom.
17:13 At this historic moment in the life of our nation, I believe it's necessary to, in the same vein as our founders did, reaffirm our dependence on almighty
17:25 god for our independence. As part of FRC's defend our founding freedoms campaign, we challenge you to sign our declaration of dependence. To sign the declaration, simply,
17:37 text America to 6 7 7 4 2. That's America to 6 7 7 4 2 and join with us in standing firm for what our founders fought for. Well,
17:49 as, we've been talking about yesterday and today over the weekend, Iran launched missiles at Israel for the 1st time since the tenuous ceasefire went into effect in April. Now that prompted Israel to strike back
Deep Dive: SPLC Scandals and Cultural Shifts
18:01 against, military targets inside Iran. President Trump got both sides to stop their exchange of fire yesterday, but further attacks have since, taken place, suggesting that the conflict may not be as
18:13 close to winding down as many had hoped. Joining us now to discuss the latest developments, the prospects for diplomatic resolution, and what this means for regional stability, is Jonathan Hessen, a senior
18:25 fellow at Jerusalem Institute for Strategy and Security. He's also the editor in chief and lead host of Jerusalem based TV 7 Israel. He previously served in the Israeli Defense Forces and the
18:36 Israeli border guard. He joins us live from Israel. Jonathan, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for staying up late and joining us.
18:45 Thank you for having me, Tony.
18:47 Alright. So just after president Trump told reporters a deal could be signed in 2 or 3 days, Israel renewed its military operation in Lebanon, striking the southern city of Tyre. How do you
18:59 think Israel has been handling this fine line between its objectives and the objectives of the US?
19:06 Well, Tony, I I genuinely do not think that there is any daylight between the United States and Israel when it comes to the core objectives. 1, focused, of course, on the
19:18 Islamic Republic of Iran, its aspirations to attain nuclear weapon capabilities, to build significant arsenals of ballistic missiles, and then also to utilize its various terror
19:30 proxies operating throughout the Middle East doing its bidding to include in Lebanon. Now, the cessation of hostilities that president Trump has achieved
19:42 as part of operation epic fury took place on the 13th of April. 3 days later, the, president has declared that there is also a cessation of
19:53 hostilities between Israel and the Iranian proxy Hezbollah in Lebanon, and he established parameters. The parameters included for Hezbollah to move north
20:05 of the Litani River to have that territory sterile from any terror operatives. And let's not forget, this is an organization that back in 82 and, had
20:17 committed, mass murder of US marine, the US marine base of of other, US service members, including European service members who have been killed over the years by the
20:29 terror group, which is designated as such by the United States. Now Israel abided by the rules that have been set down by the United States, but it was
20:41 clear early on that Hezbollah was operating on its own volition with the directives of Iran to continue to launch attacks against both IDF troops and Israeli
20:53 communities in northern Israel. And therefore, when we're talking about whether or not the the core objectives are aligned or not, I I think it's it's misplaced
21:05 somewhat since also Israel has an obligation to protect its citizens of northern Israel, and this is something that needs to be kept in mind. Now Right. Israel has established an
21:16 equation. It's a simple equation, and this is where things got rough, so to speak. If Hezbollah continues to launch attacks against Israeli communities in Northern Israel,
21:28 Israel would not just go after Hezbollah in the southern part of Lebanon, but it will also go after its command and control, which is situated in a southern suburb of the capital Beirut called
21:40 Dhahya, where the Iranian RGC Quds Force by name of the Al Hussein division is directing the various attacks being conducted against
21:52 Israel. Now Iran essentially came in and stepped in and said, if you do that, Israel, we're going to attack you. We saw what happened over the weekend. They did. Israel responded
22:04 quite significantly. Therefore, the Iranians back down, of course, with the help of president Trump in cleaning here.
22:11 Let John, let me ask you about that because that shows that they still have capacity with what happened over the weekend, Iran.
22:18 Well, let let's put things in perspective. 2 days where the Iranians have launched 24 ballistic missiles. Their, surrogate, Ansa Allah, which is dominated by the Houthi
22:30 tribe in Yemen, has launched 2 ballistic missiles. Let's not forget just 2 years ago, when, the Iranians did the same and launched barrages upon barrages, we're talking
22:42 here about 100 ballistic missiles at a time. This is not there or anywhere close to what used to be.
22:50 But it only takes 1. I mean, they still have the capacity to launch, so the threat is still there. So my point, Jonathan, is is is this, that this may be the window of opportunity
23:02 for Israel to eliminate this threat. If they're hit of course, historically, when they're hit, they hit harder. That's kind of the way Israel operates. But I could see this from prime minister
23:13 Netanyahu's perspective. Look. The window is closing. If in fact there's going to be some type of agreement, we need to make sure that we're secure here. As you said, he has an obligation to look out for the Israeli
23:24 people.
23:25 Well, you know, president Trump has been very clear eyed about the threat emanating out of the Islamic Republic of Iran. And just earlier today, there was a phone conversation between president Trump and prime
23:37 minister Amin Netanyahu during the course of which they discussed just that. What what are the challenges that still Iran presents, not just to the region, but to global
23:49 freedom of navigation and the United States' interest throughout the region? Let's not also forget that just in the state of Israel, we're talking here about roughly more than half 1000000
24:01 citizens that are either residing there or are visiting here on a regular basis. That that is a significant number of US citizens under threat on a
24:13 regular basis.
24:13 Mhmm.
24:14 Now, of course, we're taking other variables into account here. The the Islamic Republic of Iran, 1st and foremost, cannot achieve nuclear weapon capabilities.
24:24 Now what Israel
24:24 is essentially saying
24:26 seconds, Jonathan.
24:27 Yes, sir. What Israel is essentially saying, if we can achieve this, outcome via negotiation, so be it, and president Trump needs to get the chance to be able to
24:40 provide, such terms and conditions that can also be enforced. Sadly, in the last 2 days, the Iranians have indicated that their intentions lie elsewhere.
24:50 Alright. Jonathan, we gotta leave it there. Thanks for staying up late and joining us. Always great to see you. Stick with us, folks. We're back with more after this.
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27:05 Welcome back to Washington Watch. Alright. Word just came in. The, the reconciliation 2 just passed the house along a party line vote, 2 14 to 2 12. Another victory for the, the speaker.
27:18 Squeaking that 1 through. 2 14 to 2 12 reconciliation, which fully funds the, border security and ICE for the next 3 years. Alright. For those in, in around Gainesville,
27:30 Georgia, I've mentioned this, previously, but I wanna remind you that I will be at North Hall Church next Thursday, June the 18th for FRC's Faith, Family, and Future Tour. A part of that,
27:42 we'll be talking about our pray vote stand chapters. In fact, North Hall Church is our, chapter in that county. But we'll also be recording live to tape. We'll be
27:54 recording our, weekend program this week on Capitol Hill. I do that each week with the house speaker Mike Johnson. He'll be a part of that program, by Zoom. And, also, we'll have, congressman Andrew Clyde who
28:06 represents that area will be there with us. So if you'd like to find out more, text Georgia to 6 7 7 4 2. That's Georgia to 6 7 7 4 2. Alright. Earlier today, the Southern Poverty Law Center's
28:18 interim leader, Brian Fair, faced intense questioning from Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee who grilled him on the allegations against the group that were detailed in last week's superseding
28:29 indictment. So, what were the takeaways from today's hearing with the SPLC CEO? Joining us now to discuss this on the Patriot Mobile hotline is congressman Mark Harris
28:41 who serves on the House Judiciary Committee. He's also a pastor, and he represents the 8th congressional district of North Carolina. He joins us from the house floor. Congressman Harris, welcome back to Washington Watch.
28:53 Thanks for joining us.
28:55 Hey, Tony. It's great to be with you. Thank you so much for having me this evening.
28:59 Alright. So, what were the takeaways from, today's, hearing with, that Brian Fair appeared at CEO of, SBLC?
29:10 Well, it was a fascinating hearing, Tony. And, listen, I I think if you if you try to list out the takeaways from that that event, it has to be 1 that it became
29:21 very apparent that what people already knew and that is SPLC is not the neutral civil rights watchdog it claims to be. Just the whole hearing itself and,
29:34 you know, knowing that you have right there, the interim president and interim CEO speaking and and really exposing the fact that that labeling labeling Christian and
29:45 conservative organizations as hate groups is incredibly dangerous. And, we've unfortunately seen the real world consequences, and that's that's what I chose to talk about today. And and my part of the hearing was just
29:57 calling out and once again, pointing out several times Family Research Council was referenced throughout the hearing and what had happened back in 2012. But listen,Show more
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