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In this video 0:00 Capitol Hill Battles: Health Care Reform and Defense Authorization13:56 Pursuing Peace in Ukraine Amid Ongoing Conflict24:12 Shifting Tides in Vaccine Regulation and Mandates33:56 Navigating U.S.-China Tech Tensions and AI Export Risks
Capitol Hill Battles: Health Care Reform and Defense Authorization 0:00 From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, DC, bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers,0:20 the the Democrat proposal, which is a 3 year extension of the status quo, is an attempt to disguise the real impact of Obamacare's spiraling health0:32 care costs. So if we do this, we extend this for 3 years at a cost of 83000000000 dollars. Taxpayers, 83000000000 dollars to the taxpayers.0:43 That was senate majority leader John Thune earlier today discussing the Obamacare subsidies. Welcome to this December tenth edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for joining us. Well,0:54 coming up, house Republicans have just moved the must pass defense authorization bill to a final vote. Meanwhile, Capitol Hill is bracing for a major showdown over the expiring Obamacare subsidies. Ohio1:06 congressman Warren Davidson joins us live to break it all down. And is a revolution underway in how vaccines are approved and regulated? Several recent decisions by the courts and government1:18 agencies suggest it may be. We'll talk with doctor Robert Malone, a member of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's vaccine advisory1:31 committee. While the house is still grinding through votes on the must pass defense authorization bill, just a day after the rules committee cleared the way for the NDAA to advance. House
1:43 speaker Mike Johnson is working to lock down support, reportedly from 5 GOP holdouts. And another major fight is brewing on Capitol Hill as we mentioned the battle over the expiring Affordable Care
1:55 Act subsidies. The senate votes Thursday on the GOP's replacement plan while the house is preparing for its own action next week amid growing concerns over rising health care cost. Joining me
2:07 now is Washington reporter Casey Harper who has been following today's stories. Casey, it appears the senate, the Republicans of the senate have been coalesced around a health care plan. What can you tell us about this,
2:20 plan and how they expect it to turn out?
2:23 Well, thanks, Tony. The senate is set to vote tomorrow on 2 health care plans as lawmakers are up against the deadline. Premiums are on the verge of doubling for up to 24000000 Americans when COVID era
2:34 subsidies end this year. Democrats, they wanna extend those subsidies for 3 more years. Republicans wanna replace them with 1500 dollar direct payments for health savings accounts. Here's what senate
2:46 majority leader John Thune said about the Republican proposal.
2:50 Our members have decided that we're gonna vote on a Crapo Cassidy proposal, which does the things that I mentioned. It actually does make health insurance premiums more affordable. It drives down, according to
3:01 congressional budget office, premiums by dub double digit levels. It delivers the benefit directly to the patient, not to the insurance company, and it does it in a way that actually saves money.
3:13 So to the pack, to the taxpayer, that is a win win proposal.
3:17 Now that Republican plan, it also blocks money from being used for abortion or so called gender transition care. It also cuts Medicaid funds to states that cover undocumented immigrants. Senate
3:29 Minority leader Chuck Schumer said that the Republican proposal is a nonstarter. President Trump supports it, but as of now, Tony, neither the Democrat nor the Republican plan has the votes to pass.
3:41 By the way, folks, you can weigh in on this important debate because we have, staked out ground saying that nothing should advance without hide protections, ensuring that you as a taxpayer are not forced into the
3:53 abortion business. So to join that effort, text ACA to 6 7 7 4 2. That's ACA, those 3 letters, to 6 7 7 4 2. Casey, on,
4:05 another matter, I understand that there was a hearing, today on Israel. What what, what are the details about that hearing?
4:12 Yeah. That's right, Tony. So the house subcommittee on the Middle East and North Africa held an open hearing earlier today on Judea and Samaria and how that territory shapes US Israel relations. Now professor
4:24 Eugene Kantorovic testified at the hearing. He argued that Israel's presence in the area is legal. He also said that if Israel chooses to create a Palestinian state, they could reject the idea of the old
4:35 19 49 lines defining it. Morten A. Klein, the national president of the Zionist national or Zionist Organization of America, he said in his testimony that Israel has
4:47 historic claims to the land. He criticized international moves to recognize a Palestinian state.
4:54 Establishing a Palestinian state would send a terrible message that terrorism pays. There are 21 Arab states and 1 little Jewish state. That's the
5:06 yellow. It's 600 times the size of the Arab world. We need peace. If Israel does not control the Jewish heartland in Judea and Samaria, peace will be impossible. Again, Judea and Samaria, Jewish
5:18 Israeli land, is Jewish land legally, religiously, biblically, politically, morally.
5:22 Now meanwhile, secretary of state Marco Rubio met with Israel's foreign minister Gideon Saar today. The meeting comes ahead of talks with prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and president Trump on that fragile Gaza
5:33 ceasefire. Netanyahu is scheduled to visit the US on December 20 ninth for talks on the next phase of that ceasefire, Tony.
5:42 Well, speaking of, peace and ceasefire, what can you tell us about the negotiations between Ukraine and Russia and how those are progressing with the US leading the way?
5:53 Sure. So Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy, he said he met today with US treasury secretary Scott Bessen and other senior American officials to discuss plans for rebuilding the country, which, of course, has been
6:05 destroyed by the war there. This is what president Trump said moments ago at the White House about the talks.
6:12 The leaders of France, who we spoke to, Germany, UK, all very good leaders, very good friends of mine, and we discussed, Ukraine
6:24 in pretty strong words. And I don't know. We'll see what happens. I mean, we're waiting to hear answers before we progress.
6:33 Now those talks centered on a key economic document. Jared Kushner and BlackRock CEO Larry Fink also took part. Zelensky, he says both sides are fully aligned on the document's principles
6:45 as Ukraine pushes forward with reconstruction, Tony.
6:49 Alright. Thanks so much, Casey. Appreciate, the update. Thanks. I wanna go down to a member of congress and get a pulse on some of the latest activity happening on Capitol Hill today. Joining me now,
7:00 to discuss, the NDAA and more, congressman Warren Davidson, member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and the Financial Services Committee. He represents the eighth congressional district of Ohio. Congressman
7:12 Davidson, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
7:17 Tony, it's always an honor. Thank you.
7:19 I know the votes are ongoing there. What's the status of the National Defense Authorization Act?
7:27 Well, there was a holdup on the rule as you alluded to earlier, you know, just getting it across the finish line. But the bill itself is going to have broad bipartisan support. But
7:39 some of that comes some of that Democrat support comes at a big expense. So it makes it hard for some conservatives to vote for it. Frankly, I intend to vote against it. So, but we'll see how it goes.
7:51 What are some of the sticking points with the NDAA with among your Republican colleagues?
7:59 Well, 1 of the reasons that it, the rule had a hard time passing is leadership when they wanted to do Crypto Week and do Stablecoin bill. A lot of colleagues really wanted
8:11 to say, first and foremost, let's be clear, we're not going to do a central bank digital currency. So we should be if you want to talk about crypto, we should be leading with the fact that we are opposed to central bank
8:20 digital currency. And President Trump's executive order makes it clear that we're not supposed to be doing that. But the Federal Reserve and central banks around the world are continuing to build out infrastructure for a
8:32 central bank digital currency. And so, it's important to pass a law, an enduring law. And as you could see from the news today with the Federal Reserve, President Trump is in a pretty open feud with Jerome Powell and
8:45 that's why a law is really important. So they didn't include that despite promises to. So some of the people that felt like they had been promised it in particular were like, well, I can't vote for the
8:57 rule. So they worked through that, but nevertheless, it's a good enough reason for a lot of people just on that alone to go against the bill. There's ongoing funding for Ukraine, not a ton, dollars 400000000, but that's
9:09 more dollars than most of us feel like we should be sending to Ukraine right now. The DEI initiatives are all kind of watered down. There is policy in there that we could point to and say, yes, this is a directional win
9:20 over what the Biden administration was doing. But frankly, there are some half measures in there like the service academies can continue to have men train with women so long as they can say, well, women are still like
9:32 getting the starting slots on the team. I don't know why any of our service academies would do that, in particular, Phexa just won in court saying that
9:44 there's no role for transgenders in the military, so you're out. So he won on that case before the courts and directionally why would people be fighting to get the service academies to do
9:56 something at odds with current policy within the chain of command. And that's generally the theme is, President Trump has laid out a strong America First agenda and he's continuing to negotiate with Europeans and NATO
10:07 member countries in particular. But this bill hamstrings the President and says you can't decrease troop levels in Europe and you can't decrease troop levels in South Korea. It also
10:19 protects old legacy weapon systems that people want to modernize. So, it's a status quo preservation bill in a lot of ways, and a lot of us ran on changing the status
10:29 quo. Right. Yeah. Some some things are hard to die. But as you mentioned, you alluded to this, decision yesterday by the court that the Pentagon has the right to,
10:42 move forward with the policy that keeps the ginger confused out of, the military. You're a former army ranger. This this this this has valid reasons why we don't want individuals like this
10:53 serving in our nation's military.
10:57 Yeah. I mean, fundamentally, when people are going through this and look. I I feel bad if anybody's really wrestling with this, gender dysphoria. I mean, the right place to work that out isn't on active duty. I mean,
11:08 people are in essentially a permanent non deployable status while they're dealing with all this and the military exists to be deployable, exists to fight and win a war if called upon and their ability to be
11:20 a good deterrent depends on that. So, this is a big win I think for policy and for clarity and for the kind of mood of who do we want to be the focus in our military. Do we want the focus to be on all these kinds of
11:32 issues or we want to focus on warfighters being able to be strong and focused on on fighting and winning. Right. And that's clearly where Pete Hegseth has come in, and that's kind of the the momentum that he's built.
11:45 We have just a couple of minutes left, congressman Davidson. I wanna get your thoughts as a member of the foreign affairs committee. President Trump decision to allow American tech company,
11:56 NVIDIA to sell their h 200 AI chips to to China. Is this a reason for concern?
12:05 It is, in fact, a reason for concern. And 1 of the bills that, you know, we've fought for a long time is an outbound investment bill. And it's just stuff like this, like, if you want to invest in, you know, chips and
12:16 microprocessors or quantum computing and things like that and, directionally, yes, that's going to be a winner in the long run. No advice on a specific firm or a specific investment. But
12:28 directionally, yes, the market is saying this is going to be a big thing. Well, don't do it in a way that advances China's sector. And so the reality is unless we make it illegal, some people are going to keep
12:40 doing it. And so there are provisions that go into this Defense Authorization Act that would ban certain kinds of investment in China, but it kind of leaves it open ended and ill defined. And I think the language that
12:52 we fought for in the Financial Services Committee in particular is very focused language and be precise about it. Things like you don't invest in these kinds of companies and these companies in particular.
13:04 So I think it's a a way for part of Trump part part of president Trump's strategy to negotiate with China. But on the other hand, it is a cause for concern.
13:13 I mean, this is not just for video games. I mean, this the military, will benefit from this, the Chinese military.
13:20 Yeah. And and increasingly, it isn't just a direct, like, kinetic warfare thing that we're dealing with with China. I mean, they're they're working you know, I was in Mexico this this summer, middle of summer
13:33 and, 1 of the officials we were meeting with there, we're talking about China's influence whether in Mexico or all through, the hemisphere, and it's kind of like China's like humidity. They're everywhere. So you gotta
13:44 deal with them.
13:46 You hear that music. We're out of time. Congressman Warren Davidson, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us, and, Merry Christmas. Thank you.
13:55 God bless you and all your listeners.
Pursuing Peace in Ukraine Amid Ongoing Conflict
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17:52 6 7 7 4 2. Earlier today, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky held a virtual meeting with negotiators from the Trump administration to discuss the 20 point
18:03 framework for ending the Russia Ukraine war. Also discussed were the issues of post war reconstruction and economic recovery, the latter of which was the focus, of today's conversation
18:15 according to Zelensky. Today's meeting was held as Ukraine works to finalize its 20 point plan framework for peace, which president Zelensky has said would be submitted to the
18:27 US in the near future. Joining me now to discuss this, Peter Doran. He is a adjunct fellow at, the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and former president of the Center for
18:38 European Policy Analysis. Peter, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
18:45 Thanks for having me, Tony.
18:46 So what can, what can you tell us? What do you make of today's, virtual meeting between the US and, Ukraine?
18:54 Well, Tony, he has no alternative. That was the message that president Zelensky delivered, as he finalized this response to the response, we could say.
19:06 This new plan, although the full details have not been revealed, the new plan almost certainly builds on what was presented to the Russians previously, and it almost certainly features added security
19:18 guarantees for the Ukrainians. We don't want to repeat a cycle where a few years from now, let's imagine president Trump is no longer president and Vladimir Putin reinvades. Security guarantees
19:30 would prevent that, and that's what Zelensky is trying to make sure is in the final agreement.
19:35 Is that reflective or a part of what president Trump described today as, quote, pretty strong words with European leaders, was it about their responsibility to provide security for the continent?
19:48 I would suppose yes. And and that's an important component that we really need to underscore here. We the Europeans themselves call this a concept, the coalition of the willing. It means the United States is
20:00 willing to provide Europeans with arms, but it's going to be the Europeans who will have their own soldiers on the ground in Ukraine, to help bolster Ukraine as what's being called a steel
20:12 porcupine. That's a creature no 1 would want to wrestle with, with European support. It's important also here to remember that Vladimir Putin has rejected every single
20:23 offer president Trump has put down on the table while president Zelensky has accepted every offer. Putin's idea of peace is to pretend that Ukraine has already lost this war, but that's not the
20:35 fact on the ground.
20:38 I mean, that that is a perfect analysis. I think when you look at Zelensky every time he's kind of accepted it. He he hasn't always been happy about it, but he has accepted it. Putin, even things that are
20:49 favorable to him, he rejects outright as not being enough. But it looks like and and I'm not a big fan, quite frankly, of, of president Zelensky. I I I don't I don't think he's endeared himself to a lot of
21:01 people,
21:02 but he does seem to
21:03 be getting the short end of the stick most of the time.
21:07 And that could be what has changed. So the big question was whether or not Ukraine would have to give up territory that it currently controls. This is territory that the Russians demand.
21:19 The Ukrainians have been, sacrificing their own sons and daughters to defend it, and to give that up without a shot being fired, it it would be very difficult for Ukrainians to accept.
21:32 It it does look like president Zelensky has hammered out some kind of an agreement, where Ukraine wouldn't have to do that, and what we're waiting to see now if Vladimir Putin will accept it. Again, though, if this
21:43 cycle seems familiar, it's because we've already been here. Vladimir Putin, I believe, will not stop fighting, will not stop attacking until he unless he is enforced to stop, essentially meaning he runs out of the
21:55 money he needs to fund this war, Tony.
21:57 And we talked about that, Peter, last time you're on the program. That's being fueled by the oil, revenue by the the that, Russia is getting from India, China, and even European
22:09 countries.
22:11 And this is, I think, where the US Senate can play an important role. So senator Lindsey Graham and Democrats, have all agreed to cosponsor a very important bill that would give president
22:23 Trump more authority to apply sanctions on those countries and companies that are helping to fund this war in Ukraine. That's needed. This bill has 84,
22:35 cosponsors, Tony. It's almost impossible to get 84 senators to agree on anything, but this is something they all have put their names to. It has yet to pass, but these are the kinds of things that
22:47 president Trump will need to see from the senate to understand the American public wants to see an end to this war, but on terms that are just, fair, and enduring for Ukrainians.
22:57 Right. And and not requiring American military involvement. That that's not the path to peace, I think, that the Americans want. Peter, we just have a little over a minute and a half left.
23:08 What is the latest on the ground there in terms of the war between Russia and Ukraine? It doesn't sound like Russia is backing off at all during this time of negotiations.
23:20 Well, that's an important insight you just made here, Tony, because, the latest intelligence assessments that have been, passed around between the Europeans and the United States, consider that Ukraine
23:32 is not out of this fight by a long shot. Russia wants everyone to believe the war is lost for Ukraine. It's only a matter of time. But when you actually look at conditions on the ground, the
23:44 opposite is true. The Ukrainians are staying in this fight. They are sacrificing a lot to do so, but I I think it's a a big mistake for those in the west to throw up their arms and say, look. The
23:55 Ukrainians can't win this fight anyway. That's not true, and that's not what the assessments are saying. We should take hope in that.
24:02 Peter Doran, always great to see you. I appreciate your assessment. Thanks thanks so much for, joining us today.
24:08 Thank you, and Merry Christmas.
24:09 Merry Christmas to you as well. Something else to add to your prayer list. I I do applaud the Trump administration for seeking, peace. I think we should be peacemakers. There's,
Shifting Tides in Vaccine Regulation and Mandates
24:21 something commendable about that. But as Peter pointed out, we wanna make sure that the people of Ukraine who were invaded by Russia are not shortchanged. That
24:33 their their land's not taken from them. I mean, there's nothing fair about that. So be praying for a favorable outcome. Pray for an outcome that would bring peace, but 1 that is favorable for for the victims. And there's
24:45 still a lot of children missing that Russia took. Alright. When we come back, we're gonna talk vaccines. COVID, the pandemic may be over, but the debate about vaccines is not. Don't
24:57 go away. For over 4000 years, the Jewish people have had legal, historical, and biblical ties to the land of Israel, especially the heartland of Israel,
25:09 Judea and Samaria, which much of the world still calls the West Bank. Bank. To Israelis, Judea and Samaria is far more than a name. It's the center of their ancestral homeland where nearly 80 percent of the
25:21 Bible's events took place. Abraham purchased property in Hebron, Jacob in Shechem. Joshua made an altar on Mount Ebal and led the Israelites into a covenant before god. On Mount Gerizim
25:32 overlooking Shechem, Jesus talked to the Samaritan woman at the well about worshiping neither on Mount Gerizim nor in Jerusalem, but in spirit and in truth. Judea and Samaria is nearly a
25:44 quarter of Israel's current land mass, not a small strip of land on the Jordan River, but a vital and strategic part of the nation's identity. The October seventh massacre launched from Gaza
25:56 shattered the illusion that giving away territory brings peace. Gaza, which was once seen as the cornerstone of a 2 state solution, became a launchpad for terror. Today, only
26:08 21 percent of Israelis support a Palestinian state. Trust in a 2 state solution has all but collapsed. The Middle East is changing. Iran's grip is weakening. New alliances are forming. But Western
26:19 countries and some US officials still chase the mirage of a 2 state solution. History speaks clearly. The 2005 Gaza withdrawal backed by the US led not to peace but to a
26:31 terrorist regime. Judea and Samaria are 24 times larger than Gaza, deeply woven into Israel's geographic and spiritual fabric. To surrender them would not bring peace. It
26:43 would invite conflict and existential danger. Family Research Council stands with Israel's rightful claim to sovereignty. It's time for America to do the same for history, for justice, and for
26:55 lasting security in the Middle East. Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us
27:06 today. Are we witnessing a reformation, if not a revolution, in the government's approval of cove of, vaccines. Now,
27:19 now if you've been watching Washington watch for any length of time back during COVID, you know that, I am not a big fan of, mandated vaccines, not against vaccines, but
27:31 against government mandates. Well, there have been some recent developments that suggest a positive shift might be coming as it pertains to the policies mandating vaccinations.
27:43 Joining me now to discuss this, doctor Robert Malone, cochair of the CDC's advisory committee on immunization practices. He's also the founder and president of the Malone Institute, which aims to bring back integrity to
27:54 the government, the, biological sciences, and medicine. Doctor Malone, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for, joining us today.
28:04 Thanks for having me on, Tony. It was quite a week last week, wasn't it?
28:07 Well, I was gonna say, a lot has happened since you and I spoke last. In fact, there was more news yesterday. Spokesman for HHS, Health and Human Services, reported that the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration, is
28:19 doing a thorough investigation across multiple age groups of deaths potentially rated to related to COVID vaccines. Now this comes on the heels of, last month's leaked memo from the
28:31 FDA's top vaccine regulator that linked the debt this to, the deaths of 10 children. What do we make of all this?
28:42 So, I, have to say number 1, Tony. Of course, I'm not speaking on behalf of the government. My opinions here are my own. Even though I serve on the advisory committee on immunization practices, I have seen
28:54 the actual data regarding these childhood deaths that were recorded in VAERS and their subsequent investigation. There's actually many more deaths than just these 10, but these
29:06 10 are clearly extremely well documented and linked to the administration of the vaccine product. The fact that these deaths occurred and was not disclosed to the American
29:18 people in a timely fashion may involve some criminal activity at some point in time. There will be a determination about that. I'm confident there will be hearings. I'm not out loud to disclose
29:30 what I have seen in terms of the, documentation concerning these, really, sickening events. 1 of which is, involves
29:42 Ernesto Ramirez junior. This Ernesto Ramirez is the gentleman that has been touring the country insisting that his son was killed by the Pfizer jab, and there's been a lot of denialism about that. But now he
29:54 is among the 10 that are specifically being admit identified here. This is, really just the first wave, the first cut at identifying those that have,
30:06 unfortunately passed away from these products that were mandated by our government. The government now denies that that's the case, but if you're a government worker or military personnel, you know that that
30:18 is a false narrative. Now, you asked the question, are we, entering into a period of of radical transparency and transformation concerning the,
30:30 entire vaccine enterprise? And I think the answer is yes, Tony. We took a a bite out of the apple last week at the advisory committee on immunization practices. And what
30:42 we, recommended to the director of CDC, remember the ACIP does not set federal policy. The director of the CDC or the acting director in the current case is the 1 that will accept,
30:55 refuse, reject, or modify those recommendations. But the language of the recommendations is being broadly misrepresented by the likes of Elizabeth Warren, in which she asserts that the,
31:07 CDC is now and and specifically she names secretary Kennedy is taking away vaccines from people. We were extremely careful to ensure that our wording
31:19 could not be interpreted as taking, the ability of anybody to receive or accept a hepatitis b vaccine. But what we did do was and this is
31:31 also a misconception. I I heard, senator Rand Paul, frankly, still doesn't really understand what we just, recommended. We didn't delay
31:43 the first birth dose of children who have, been born to hepatitis b negative mothers until 2 months. What we did was we said
31:55 it suggested that those children not take the first dose until at least 2 months, but that it's up to the parents to decide when and if
32:07 they accept hepatitis b vaccine for their children. You you point to your belief, which I share strongly, that it is inappropriate for the state to mandate
32:19 medical procedures on its citizens, particularly without informed consent. I am against mandates as you just indicated you are, and I thank you for that.
32:32 This is the fundamental policy shift here. Frankly, Tony, public health is driven by utilitarianism currently. It is and that is, I'm gonna say the s
32:43 word. That's a euphemism for socialism.
32:46 Mhmm.
32:46 The belief that the state has the right to mandate that you receive medical procedures including injections. And where we're trying to shift the dialogue back to is a focus on
32:58 the physician patient relationship and the rights of individuals to determine what medical procedures they may receive and the importance of them having truly informed consent informed
33:10 by both a comprehensive understanding of the risks and the benefits.
33:15 Doctor Malone, we just have 30 seconds left. But if the secretary adopts the recommendation, when will parents see the effect of this?
33:23 Immediately, except in those states that are rejecting it. We have Tony, we are in the middle of a major battle. It's a cultural battle, and you're you're familiar with that.
33:35 Yeah. You could say it's a religious battle also, and we wouldn't be off. And, there are many states that are rejecting these changes, and they insist still on utilitarian
33:46 idea that the state has the right to determine what medical procedures you will receive.
33:51 Alright. Doctor Malone, we gotta leave it there, but thank you for being on the front lines of this, this battle. Folks, stick with us. We're back with more after this.Show more
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