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In this video 0:00 National Defense Authorization Act and Global Engagements6:56 Obamacare Subsidies and Government Fraud Investigations17:29 Ethical Concerns and Alternatives to IVF28:12 Redistricting Battles and Syria's Path to Stability45:57 The AI Race with China and Call to Prayer
National Defense Authorization Act and Global Engagements 0:00 From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, DC, bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and0:12 newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. View. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.0:19 No legislation is perfect. It's certainly not the bill I would have written. But at the same time, it's critical that we pass this legislation so that our nation can continue to build a ready, capable, and0:30 lethal fighting force to deter our adversaries. We have some very positive pieces of legislation before us today, and our Democrat colleagues, I hope, will join us in a spirit0:42 of bipartisanship and support them.0:45 That was North Carolina congresswoman Virginia Fox, chairwoman of the House Rules Committee, discussing the National Defense Authorization Act just moments ago on Capitol Hill. Merry Christmas, and welcome to this0:56 December ninth edition of Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins, your host, and I'm glad you've joined us. Well, coming up, Kentucky congressman James Comer, chairman of the House Oversight Committee, will join me to break1:06 down the fight over Obamacare subsidies as the senate moves toward a Thursday vote. And an increasingly urgent question, will China beat America in the AI race? And will you
1:18 and will US policy help them do it? Josh Hodges, a commissioner on the US China Economic and Security Review Commission, will be here in studio to unpack the latest developments.
1:35 Well, as we speak, the House Rules Committee is still reviewing the 901000000000 dollar 20 26 Defense Authorization Act ahead of a scheduled Wednesday vote. The bill strengthens America's
1:46 military posture, supports key allies in Europe, the Middle East, and the Indo Pacific, and it pushes back on China's growing aggression. Joining me now live from Capitol Hill is Washington stand reporter Casey
1:58 Harper who has been following today's main stories. Casey, bit cold out there tonight, but, unpack for us the 3000 page National Defense Authorization Act.
2:10 Yeah. Thanks, Tony. I'm here at the capital as you mentioned, and lawmakers here are working on this bill, which shows that the US intends to stay engaged overseas. It provides support to Ukraine and the Baltic
2:22 states, and it keeps solid American troop levels in Europe. This legislation also tightens oversight of US investments tied to important and sensitive Chinese technology. However, a 20 23
2:33 provision that required US companies to report investments in sensitive technologies abroad, including AI chips, was dropped fine from the final bill. Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer commented on this from the
2:45 senate floor earlier today.
2:47 Donald Trump, you're letting China control our future. You're selling us out. Also, you can have a little 1 day ego gain of making some kind of announcement,
2:59 which no one's gonna believe anyway. Donald Trump should listen to his own DOJ about the danger of giving China these chips before cutting stupid deals that cost America
3:11 dearly.
3:14 On top of that, some conservative lawmakers have raised concerns about the bill's provisions to lift sanctions on Syria. Also, of course, Israel is a central priority. This bill supports the Iron
3:25 Dome and David Sling, and it requires routine checks to ensure Israel gets the supplies that it needs. The NDAA also drops the plan to rename the Department of Defense the Department of War,
3:37 citing its high cost. Now as we noted on yesterday's show, Tony, there was an effort to mandate coverage for in vitro fertilization, which is also very expensive, by the way, But it was killed due to pro life
3:49 concerns. So and a lot of updates and a lot of things going on here behind me, Tony.
3:54 Alright, Casey. Appreciate that. Out across the country, redistricting remains a major issue. Indiana is 1 step step closer to a new congressional map after,
4:06 yesterday, senate committee vote there in Indiana. What else do we know about that?
4:13 That's right, Tony. So Indiana state senate advanced a new congressional map on Monday aiming to strengthen the GOP representation. Now this plan, like many others, would likely give Republicans, all
4:24 9 US house seats in the state by reshaping those democratic leaning areas in the northwest part of the state like Indianapolis, now as well as Indianapolis rather. Now supporters say it's a chance to counter
4:36 democratic gerrymandering in other states. And as you know, this move follows similar efforts in states like California, Texas, and Missouri as both parties position themselves ahead of next year's
4:48 midterm elections. Now the full senate is expected to vote on Thursday, and the measure is widely expected to pass, Tony.
4:55 Interesting. We'll be, we'll be watching that 1 very closely. Let let's turn now to, international news Ukraine. Casey, bring us up to speed on the latest in those peace negotiations between Ukraine and
5:07 Russia.
5:09 Sure, Tony. So Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelensky, he says that Kyiv and its European partners are almost ready to give the US an updated peace plan. This is really their rebuttal. Now these talks follow days of
5:21 intense diplomacy in London with British, French, and German leaders. Zelenskyy, he's been pushing back on the US backed plan, saying that it favors Moscow too heavily. He won't give up any
5:33 territory to Russia and wants firm security guarantees to stop future aggression. Now the Finnish president says allies are working on 3 imported documents. 1 is a 20 point piece framework.
5:45 Another is a set of security guarantees to put some details on that. And the third's a reconstruction plan. He says this is the closest the sides have come to a possible deal. Meanwhile, president Trump is pressuring
5:56 Zelensky to move faster.
5:58 A little bit disappointed that president Zelensky hasn't yet read the proposal. That was as of a few hours ago. His people love it, but he has a Russia's fine within Russia's you know,
6:10 Russia Russia, I guess, would rather have the whole country. Would you think of it? Well, Russia is, I believe, fine with it, but, I'm not sure that Zelensky is fine with it. His people love
6:21 it.
6:24 Now he argues Russia has the upper hand, and he warns Ukraine may need to accept tough terms. Putin is still demanding control of the entire Donbas region, something Zelensky refuses
6:36 to allow, Tony.
6:37 Alright, Casey. Well, as I said, I know it's chilly out there. Go ahead and get a cup of hot chocolate on me.
6:45 Thanks, Tommy.
6:46 Alright. I wanna go to, to 1 of the top Republican leaders in the House of Representatives, congressman James Comer, chairman of the House Oversight Committee. He represents the first
Obamacare Subsidies and Government Fraud Investigations
6:57 congressional district of Kentucky. Chairman Comer, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for, joining us.
7:05 Thanks for having me.
7:07 So the clock is ticking for congress, and there's still much to do before the upcoming, recess for Christmas. Now in addition to the NDAA, which is in the rules committee right now, the fight over health care
7:18 is a, is at a crucial juncture. What's the latest on that debate over these subsidies and these extensions from for Obamacare?
7:27 Well, the sad part about this debate is is the reality, number 1, that the Democrats' Obamacare, plan just decimated our health care system in America. We had the model health
7:39 care system in the world. And and because of Obamacare, we we have a a health care system that's unaffordable to almost every American regardless of of,
7:51 income status. So we're tasked with fixing it. Now the second, bad part about all this is that we've waited this late in the year to try to tackle this issue that when you was was coming along.
8:03 So there are lots of schools of thought as to how to fix it. There's 1 school by, obviously, the Democrats. Their their solution to every problem is more government spending, but there's there's a, you know,
8:15 there are proposals to extend the subsidies a year, while there's still debate. There's proposals to, you know, completely end the subsidies and and do what Roger Marshall is
8:27 championing in the senate, and that to to create health savings accounts and, you know, the money that would normally go, in the subsidies, which went directly to the insurance company, send that money directly
8:38 into consumers' accounts and let them be the consumer again, and not the government as far as, which health care plans to to have. And, that would require transparency from the hospitals as
8:50 to say, from prior to your surgery, this is what it's supposed to cost. So there there are lots of proposals. I don't know that any proposal has 218 votes in the house and 60 votes in the senate.
9:02 I don't know, how we're gonna get there in the next 10 legislative days, 10 calendar days, which is what we have. Right. All we have before the end of the year, but, there are lots of proposals on the
9:14 table, and, I hope that we can get something resolved. But at the end of the day, this health care crisis is a direct result of the failure of Obamacare.
9:24 It it it it absolutely is. Help me here. I wanna ask you a question, mister chairman, because I'm I'm thinking through this. No Republican has ever voted for Obamacare, nor did they vote for
9:35 these subsidies. It was really essentially a bailout during the COVID of Obamacare, which had failed and was not working. So I I just I can't imagine that at this point in time that
9:47 a Republican would vote for the extension of those given that they're failed, but also thinking that we got election coming up. And, I mean, what Republican wants to have his name on extending
9:59 a failed health care system?
10:01 Well, there are a few that, you know, there are always Republicans that wanna kick the can down the road. There are always Republicans that number 1 priority self preservation, just like like there are, you know, many
10:12 Democrats that feel that way as well. So at the end of the day, there there there are a few Republicans, not very many, that would, that are advocating to extend the subsidies for another
10:24 year. But at the end of the day, I I think that, we've gotta accept the fact that Obamacare ruined our health care system. And the only solution is gonna be,
10:37 proposed by Republicans that, that, you know, don't want there to be winners and losers in our health care system. And that's what my criticism of Obamacare has always been. If you qualify for
10:49 Obamacare, if you are, on Medicaid, which is free health care, that's a pretty good deal.
10:54 If you
10:54 get health care for free or if you get health care at a at a reduced and subsidized price. But over half of America doesn't qualify for Obamacare. And they're those of those Americans who don't, they're having to
11:06 pay significantly more because somebody had to pay for that free health
11:10 care.
11:10 And it's the people who are working and and trying to provide health care for their employees. So, we're trying to look at a solution for everybody. The Democrats and a few Republicans are only looking at for a salute a
11:20 temporary solution for a handful of people.
11:22 Well, you know, it's that that old saying, you know, at some point in time, all those people pulling the wagon are gonna realize there's more people in the wagon, than are out here pulling it. I I wanna go, just got a
11:33 couple minutes left, chairman Comer. I wanna go really kinda down your lane, as chairman of the oversight committee. You've had a lot to track in this congress. What investigations
11:45 are you working on now to advance?
11:48 Well, the 1 that I'm most excited about now that I think, everyone watching this show will be excited about is the the social programs fraud in Minnesota. We have credible whistleblowers
12:00 who have come forward within the state government of Minnesota that claim their that this massive amount of fraud with respect to the Somali population in Minnesota was has been going on
12:12 for, a very long period of time and that they warned both attorney general Keith Ellison and governor Tim Walz, both former members of congress who I served with, that this fraud was taking place. And
12:24 both men turned a blind eye because they didn't wanna offend that very important and crucial voting block, the Somali voting block in Minnesota. So, we wanna try to identify how much
12:36 waste there was, how much was stolen. We wanna identify anyone that was involved in the crime, not only, the the the Somali, the Somali group that that have
12:47 reportedly been spearheading this, but all the illegals that have been, receiving government benefits even though the Democrat said no illegal received government benefit. We wanna know, who all was
12:59 responsible for this? Did the governor and attorney general know and refuse to do something? If so, they should be held accountable. So this is a major investigation, but I'll say this. I don't think Minnesota is the
13:09 only state that's affected it.
13:11 Yeah.
13:11 I think there are a lot of states. So this investigation will lead to other investigations, and, hopefully, finally, someone's gonna get the back of the American taxpayer.
13:19 Well, chairman, you said, like, 30 seconds left, but this is 1 of the issues that you and your colleagues have raised about Obamacare, the fraud that's in that. It's it's it's endemic in any government program. This is
13:29 the problem. When government grows and spends more money, they don't pay attention to it, and we see this fraud, waste, and abuse.
13:36 Yep.
13:37 And it's the it's those people you were talking about a moment ago that are hardworking, that are having to pay the bill for this.
13:43 Yep.
13:44 So, mister chairman, appreciate you ferreting that out, and, we wanna hear from you when, you, uncover more of that. Thanks for joining us.
13:52 Thanks for having me.
13:53 Alright, folks. When we come back, we're gonna talk about 1 of the provisions not in the NDAA. Hello. I'm Tony Perkins, and I wanna invite you to join me for stand on the word, a daily
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17:15 way, you'll have access to, Washington watch the Washington stand and stand on the word. Alright. The issue of in vitro fertilization has drawn renewed interest after a provision related
17:27 to IVF coverage, for service members was removed from the National Defense Authorization Act or the NDAA. And while, not surprisingly, Democrats are up in
Ethical Concerns and Alternatives to IVF
17:39 arms over the provisions removal.
17:41 V f, we all understand, is there's language from pro life forces that they want to put in there about protecting the the embryos forever, that is very
17:53 impractical. So you've got a lot of Republicans who are strong supporters of IVF, and you get a little other said, I can't support it unless it has this pro life language. So it was a clash within the Republican
18:05 conference that they could not resolve. As far as I know, pretty much every Democrat would support it.
18:10 That was congressman Adam Smith, the ranking member on the House Armed Services Committee. And as he points out, the issue, isn't so clear cut for Republicans who have been divided over the issue. But let's let's get
18:22 past all the news and the and the and the noise here. Why is there a controversy over the procedure? What does the process actually entail? Well, here to, answer these questions and more is reproductive
18:34 endocrinologist and infertility physician doctor Lauren Rubel. Doctor Rubel, thanks so much for, joining us here on Washington Watch. Appreciate it.
18:45 Thank you for having me.
18:46 Now for much of your career, you actually did in vitro fertilization. You thought what you were doing was the best way to, to help couples that were wanting to have children, which is kind
18:58 of pro life. We want kids. We want parents to have kids. What changed for you?
19:03 Right. Exactly. And I think the first thing to say is that these couples are truly suffering. Right? And I wanted to help alleviate the suffering to help them have children. But what changed was on many different levels.
19:14 I mean, first of all, medically, I felt more and more like I was putting Band Aid over causes that I wasn't truly addressing the root cause of that person sitting in front of me, body, mind, soul. And in
19:26 many cases, this is true. We know that IVF is kind of a blanket recommendation for most infertility diagnoses that we have. So that was 1 I just felt incomplete in terms of my armamentarium to
19:37 help treat these couples. The second part is that there are medical, issues with the practice of in vitro fertilization. Of course, part of that, like I said, is not truly addressing the full
19:49 spectrum of causes that if we heal can lead to pregnancies on their own and healthier moms and babies in that process. But, again, we know there's an increased risk of complications for moms
20:01 and babies. And then finally, the last part of this is really coming to terms with the fact that as I sat there performing my daily work, I began to realize more and
20:13 more how many embryos were being destroyed in this process of in vitro fertilization. And so what we what I initially went into thinking of as, helping life
20:25 really in that interim process. If every embryo is a human being that is a unique chromosome complement at his or her earliest stage of development, we were just starting on
20:36 average, you know, many more embryos potentially, to get to that 1 live birth.
20:45 So it's it it it has health implications for it, but it has moral and ethical implications when you're talking about these human embryos that are being destroyed, discarded, or frozen. In some cases, we have millions of
20:57 these that are, are frozen. But here here's the the the the dilemma. You you you started with this. These couples are suffering. They want children. I have 5. I I you know, I there's nothing greater than
21:09 having kids, I think, as a parent. You love it. So you want to help them, but it's been portrayed as if it's all or nothing. It's the IVF or there's no other alternative. That's not true.
21:21 That's correct. You know, there is another alternative that unfortunately has felt more and more politicized in recent months. But this alternative is called restorative reproductive medicine. And what that
21:33 is is really, again, identifying those root causes and harnessing the hormone imbalances that may be present, looking at the microbiome, trying to
21:44 optimize ovulation, in that woman as well as, the sperm in that man and really, the the timing of intercourse as well, and using medical and surgical procedures
21:56 to do so. And the studies actually show that this is, yielding equivalent rates of live births, compared to IVF cycles. The
22:08 denominators are a little bit different here, and so it does take more time. But, with that being said, there is absolutely hope. And it is, again, effective. It is immoral, and it is a much
22:20 less financially taxing process for couples.
22:23 Well, I mean, that seems like that should be something that the if the government wants to address this issue starting with the military, which they always use the military first so that they can expand it, whatever the
22:33 social program may be. So as you're describing, this approach is both ethical. It doesn't have the health implications, and it doesn't cost as much. It seems like this would be something that we would be
22:45 promoting.
22:47 Yes. Exactly. And, you know, quite honestly, Tony, this is just simply good medicine at its core. Right? We want to be able to heal people as opposed as I said, treat IVF as this episodic phenomenon
22:59 that we're putting a very fancy band aid on. However, unfortunately, what I find and I I can only speak for myself, but I know that I wasn't equipped with all of the tools. And in fact, studies that have been done
23:11 looking at even fertility awareness based methods, which can double the chance of conception over a period of 6 months in people who are trying to conceive, only 4 percent of OB GYNs and family
23:22 medicine physicians were familiar with how to, effectively counsel patients on these type of procedures.
23:28 Doctor Rubal, let me let me ask this final question here. We're just a little over a minute left. Having been involved in IVF and and involved in that process and those treatments and now moving over to
23:40 an ethical, more medically sound approach, How does how do the 2 compare to you as a professional in practicing medicine?
23:51 Yes. I mean, again, I think that for every single medical professional, everyone's trying to do their best, again, with the tools that they're given. I can, again, speak for myself, and I know that, I
24:03 feel so much more at peace. And this is what I tell patients. Not everything is in our power here. But let's try to optimize the parts that are, and then we can have, a path moving forward in
24:14 peace. And, also, again, knowing that we're going to be helping you feel better because we're going to normalize whatever we've uncovered. And, again, studies support that we're having babies, based on these restorative
24:26 reproductive medicine procedures who are healthier, who have, less pre preterm deliveries, less multiples, and, are being born at normal birth weight. So really a win win.
24:38 Well, doctor Ruble, I wanna thank you again for joining us. And and I wanna thank you just for speaking out on this because as you said, it's been politicized, and and sometimes that comes with risk. But I think the
24:48 truth needs to get out there, and we appreciate you being willing to, to speak the truth. Merry Christmas.
24:53 Merry Christmas.
24:54 Alright. Don't go away. More Washington Watch straight ahead. For over 4000 years, the Jewish people have had legal, historical, and biblical ties to the land of
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26:42 would not bring peace. It would invite conflict and existential danger. Family Research Council stands with Israel's right claim to sovereignty. It's time for America to do the same for history,
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27:05 to Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in, and, Merry Christmas. Alright. Yesterday marked 1 year 1 year since the collapse of the brutal Assad regime that ruled Syria
27:17 for more than 5 decades. And while there were celebrations in major cities, the country is not well, it's not out of the woods yet. It's got some serious challenges ahead of it. The country is still struggling to recover
27:29 from years of war, and there have been bouts of violence alongside other concerns. Well, included in the National Defense Authorization Act that's before Congress right now is a repeal of the Caesar
27:40 sanctions, a move that would be, considered a key to success of Syria's new government. The question is, will it make it through? And should it?
27:52 Should we not hold Syria's new leadership accountable by lifting these sanctions as they meet certain measurables? Joining me now is congressman Marlon Stutzman, who is 1 of the first members of congress actually to
28:04 visit Syria and meet with the country's new president after the fall of the Assad regime. He represents the third congressional district of Indiana. Congressman Stutzman, welcome back to Washington Watch. MerryShow more
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