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Analyzing protests in Minnesota that led to a recent ICE shooting, and in anticipation of another shutdown, legislators vote on Obamacare subsidies while preparing better healthcare options.
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In this video 0:00 Debating U.S. Military Action in Venezuela13:55 Extending Obamacare Subsidies Amid Life Protections Debate28:45 Investigating the Deadly ICE Confrontation in Minneapolis37:21 Weekly Insights: Abortion Funding, Violence, and Government FraudComments No comments yet. Start the conversation.
Debating U.S. Military Action in Venezuela 0:00 From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, DC, bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and0:12 newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.0:19 There isn't anybody that has any information that the president is using armed forces against Venezuela. He did for about 47 minutes this0:31 last weekend, but he is not in the process of doing this. And the resolution says that he should stop it. He's not doing it.0:39 That was Republican senator Jim Risch, chairman of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee, speaking earlier today on the senate floor during a vote on the War Powers Act. Welcome to this January eighth edition of0:49 Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks for joining us. Well, coming up, the house is on track to pass a 3 year extension of enhanced Obamacare subsidies with with a growing number of Republicans crossing1:00 party lines. What does this mean for the health care debate and the next government funding fight? Congressman doctor Andy Harris joins us later. Questions are mounting after a deadly confrontation in1:12 Minneapolis involving an ICE agent and a 37 year old woman. What do we know, and what should an investigation look like? Former FBI assistant director, Wiley Thompson, joins us to break
1:24 it all down. Well, the senate has voted to advance a resolution that would limit president Trump's ability to
1:36 take any additional military action in Venezuela without congressional approval. The measure passed 52 to 47, advancing the measure. Now it 5 Republicans actually joined Democrats
1:48 in advancing this measure following a surprise US raid that captured Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro. Now lawmakers say the vote sends a clear message about congress's role in decisions of war, though the
2:00 resolution still faces major obstacles ahead. Joining me now is Washington stand reporter Casey Harper. Casey, understanding that this is just the first in, many steps in the legislative process, and the
2:11 president would have to sign it. So the reality is it's unlikely to become wall. But what would the measure do?
2:19 Yeah. That's right, Tony. In many ways, this is sending a message, especially with some Republican support. But to your question, this resolution specifically, it requires congressional approval before the president
2:29 could take any future US military action in Venezuela after his pretty, you know, unilateral decisions to remove Nicolas Maduro, and then we have this it's unclear how much the oil, 30 to 50000000 barrels of oil,
2:41 was seized or given over or given under given over with a lot of pressure. And now the president's saying that they're gonna or secretary Hegseth and Rubio saying that they're going to, you know, use this oil to direct
2:52 Venezuelan transition, and the president saying that this could take years to come. With all of that going on, this new resolution, if it you know, it's sending the message that congress wants to be involved, it passed
3:03 with bipartisan support, but it does face a likely veto from president Trump. As you said, here's what senator Chuck Schumer had to say about
3:11 it. How can the American people watch this and not just groan and grimace and ache and fear?
3:23 When we try to do this kind of nation when America has tried to do this kind of nation building, this kinds of re re regime replacement in the past, it's
3:35 led to the American people paying the price in treasure and in blood.
3:42 So that's senator Schumer echoing the sentiment of many Democrats from his house floor speech today, Tony.
3:48 Casey, this may not come as a surprise to you, but, senator Schumer does not move me in any form or fashion toward or against a piece of legislation. But, Casey, with
4:00 5 Republicans joining in this, there I would think that there is a political message being sent.
4:07 There is a political message being sent, but, of course, to say, hey. We wanna be included as this goes on, especially if as president Trump is saying this is gonna take years. I mean, the Republican senators who who
4:18 broke with this, I looked into their statements. And, for for the most part, there was, a distinction made where they didn't say that what president Trump did to capture Maduro was necessarily wrong, but they said, hey.
4:30 Going forward, we want congress to be involved, especially if this is gonna to drag on or involve any kind of military, involvement. So they weren't necessarily condemning what the president did, though many Democrats
4:40 did. And you mentioned those 5 senators. We had senator Rand Paul, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Todd Young, and Josh Hawley, who voted, to send this message to Trump, which comes after this
4:52 backlash over the raid to Nicholas Maduro's capture. But president Trump had many supporters. Here's what senator Jim Risch had to say.
5:01 There isn't anybody that has any information that the president is using armed forces against Venezuela. He did for about 47 minutes this
5:12 last weekend, but he is not in the process of doing this. And the resolution says that he should stop it. He's not doing it. Now if the resolution were drawn to say, president you can't do this
5:24 anymore, that would actually have some effect or attempt to have some effect. It would be unconstitutional, unenforceable. But to tell him to not do something or to stop doing something
5:36 he's not doing is nonsense. The effect of this is to slap the president of the United States in the face.
5:45 So, Senator Risch's comment about enforceability is a interesting comment here. But overall, he is he's echoing the sentiment of Republicans who support it. They say this was very brief, and this is not even close to a
5:56 declaration of war, Tony.
5:58 Well, we'll look at that, a little bit more later. I I wanna switch, gears to domestic issues. Minnesota and federal officials are at odds over a US immigration agent fatally,
6:09 shooting a Minneapolis woman as the, FBI assumes sole control of the investigation. Now the shooting has triggered protests and conflicting accounts of what actually happened, have been surfacing. So,
6:21 Casey, what what are the facts as we know them right now?
6:25 Sure. We have multiple videos going viral online. We have president, Trump and president j or vice president JD Vance supporting the ICE officer along with ICE itself and DHS secretary Kristi Noem. Whereas many
6:37 Democrats, including local Minnesota Democrats, Tim Walz, the mayor Jacob Frey, saying this is, you know, reprehensible. And we've seen massive protests break out all over the country and some of the predictable
6:49 cities. Now these protests aren't new, by the way, Tony. I mean, we've seen these go these anti ICE protests going on, for months and months, but they've been renewed, reinvigorated. And as I said, federal officials are
7:00 in lockstep. They're saying that even those are there's gonna be an investigation, that the agent acted in self defense. As I said, those state leaders, they say that the video tells a different story. And these
7:11 protests, I think this is just the beginning because we're gonna have more hearings, more investigation into this, and these protests are only mounting. As you can see, here, the the video footage is is
7:23 increasingly violent and more violent than the other protests that I've been following, last year, Tony.
7:29 Alright. Thanks, Casey. We're gonna take a little bit, more of a look at that a little bit later. Alright. The, the Republican controlled house is preparing to vote on legislation addressing, the expiring, the
7:41 expired Obamacare subsidies as insurance costs rise for millions of Americans. Now Republicans say action is needed. I think there's agreement there, but warned that the program is costly and vulnerable to waste.
7:53 So, Casey, where do things stand right now with this?
7:56 Yeah. It's funny. So this is in the aftermath, as you know, of the government shutdown where Democrats shut down the government over, these expiring Obamacare subsidies because turns out the Affordable Care Act was not
8:07 as affordable as many hoped, and the premiums are skyrocketing. And so this vote, though, it's important to note, this came from a discharge petition, which means that the any lawmaker, Republican or Democrat,
8:19 can introduce legislation and circumvent their leadership of their party. So we saw support for this from representatives like Brian Fitzpatrick, John Katko, and others. But like, like the bill before,
8:30 it needs both chambers and presidential approval, though I think president Trump might be more inclined to have a conversation about health care like this 1. So Senate Republicans, they're continuing to speak sort of a
8:42 different tune. They're opposing a full a full extension, but they want something shorter, more targeted, and a plan for lower income Americans. And GOP lawmakers say the ACA needs
8:54 to rein in the oversight you know, have oversight to rein in, the fraud, waste, and the exploding health care costs that we're seeing all around the country, Tony.
9:04 Alright, Casey. We're gonna look at that a little bit more with, doctor Andy Harris a little bit later. Thanks so much for, joining us, Casey. Talk to you later. Alright. I I wanna explore a little bit more the,
9:16 Wars Power Act, that was, passed today in the United State. Well, the first step in the process of vote will be held on it next week, But it was significant in that it,
9:28 as I mentioned earlier, 5 Republicans joined with all of the Democrats in advancing that. Joining me now to talk about this, Travis Weber, vice president of policy here at the Family Research Council.
9:40 Travis, thanks so much for, for for joining me. So what let let's let's break this down first. This goes back to the 19 seventies, where we had the congress first passing this when,
9:52 Richard Nixon was president. He vetoed it. Congress overrode his veto. It it's it's long been controversial. Presidents on both sides of the political aisle have said it's unconstitutional.
10:05 So this vote today was more of a messaging vote than it was a policy, substantive, action.
10:13 That's absolutely right, Tony. And we have to look at this issue in the context of constitutional authority. So article 1, covering congress, grants congress the power to declare war. Article
10:25 2, covering the executive branch, grants the president the executive branch the authority to conduct foreign affairs and it's and gives the president the the position of commander in chief of the military. So this these
10:37 constitutional provisions have for throughout our country's history have set up a discussion or paradigm in which the conduct of foreign affairs concerning the military in areas that might blur the
10:48 lines between these 2, there's going to be a discussion about it. Now for most of our history, this is not as much of a discussion. Historically, war was declared by Congress in the in the era of, quote, maybe more
11:00 traditional wars, but the war powers resolution in the modern era, which was passed after Vietnam. You know, in the decades since, we've seen a series of smaller actions that have provoked these questions.
11:11 Afghanistan, our involvement elsewhere, like the raid to capture Osama bin Laden, more recently, Syria, lib Syria, Libya, and now this this incident in Venezuela. So, Tony, it's important to have
11:23 that context. Different resolutions have been passed like the 1 today drawing upon the war powers resolution, and that framework that it had set forth and directing the president to
11:35 stop his activity in the in military activity in Venezuela. In reality, Congress cannot direct him to stop it per the constitution, and the courts have largely stayed out of this because it's seen as a question
11:47 for the other branches of government constitutionally under the political question doctrine. But, Tony, we'll have to see how things play out. A lot of this is gonna come down, as you know, how much, to the degree to
11:58 which leaders, in this case, 5 Republican senators joining the Democrats, to the degree to which they're they wanna stand up to the president's ongoing military activity in Venezuela. I think that's gonna be the key, not
12:09 the 1 and done, which can be seen under the rubric of a a detention for law enforcement purposes, but rather ongoing use of military authority will be a question as we examine this question in the context of the
12:21 constitution and historical assessment of war powers, resolutions.
12:26 Travis, you just have a little over a minute left, but I I I would think that this is more responding to the president's statements that the United States was gonna be running Venezuela as it
12:37 was to be some type of occupation, not the 47 minute raid that senator Risch made reference to earlier in the clip.
12:46 I I think that's absolutely right. And and the quest the term running, it leaves a a certain amount of ambiguity and vagueness on the table in terms of we don't know the time frame of that, how long
12:58 that's gonna be, the implications of that, or the implications civilian or military. We see, you know, down in Venezuela, forces aligned with Maduro detaining people scanning their cell phones for an evidence of
13:08 celebration of alignment with the the raid and celebration of that. So, certainly, there there is gonna be questions that arise of how how are things gonna be conducted down there. And so I think that's absolutely right.
13:19 The question here is gonna be the extent and longevity and level of involvement of military assets in Venezuela.
13:25 Alright. Travis Weber, thanks so much for, joining us. Always appreciate your insights. Alright. The house, just approved a 3 year extension of the ACA, the Affordable Care Act or the
13:37 Unaffordable Care Act, the subsidies that we've been talking about for a number of months. That now will go over to the the senate. What will be the outcome? We're gonna be joined by
13:49 doctor Andy Harris, congressman from Maryland next. He's also the chairman of the House Freedom Caucus. He's gonna give us the latest, so don't go away. We'll be right back after this.
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17:02 Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for, tuning in. Be sure and check out the website, tony perkins dot com. Alright. As I mentioned going into the break, the house, just
17:14 moments ago, approved a, measure that would extend the Obamacare COVID era subsidies for, 3 years. Now this,
17:26 was passed primarily by Democrats. Now this was a, we we've been talking about this over the last actually, going into the Christmas break. The, there was a discharge petition that was put forward. We had a handful of
17:38 Republicans join that, but in this vote, 17, if my numbers are right, 17 Republicans joined with the Democrats to approve this measure. Now goes to the senate. Unlikely it's gonna move from
17:50 there. Joining me now to, to talk more about this, give us the latest, congressman, doctor Andy Harris, who is the chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, also a member of the House Appropriations Committer committee. He
18:01 is also a doctor, and he co chairs the GOP Doctors Caucus. Doctor Andy Harris, thanks so much for, joining us. Give us the latest.
18:11 Good to be with you, Tony. Well, yeah, I mean, the 17 Republicans did vote to send that over to the senate, but the senate's not gonna take it up because they already tried to take up the identical measure, before the
18:20 holiday, and it, it failed. It failed to gain, cloture is, you know, tech technical term. So, I'm sure John Thune is not gonna waste senate time on bringing up the exact same measure that failed once in the senate.
18:32 Now there has been some efforts by Republicans to and let me just say at the outset, I've said this before, people need to know. No Republican to date has ever voted for Obamacare. This is the first time we've actually
18:44 had them vote for these subsidies. Republicans have never voted for these subsidies, never voted for the underlying measure. There was conversations, and correct me if I'm wrong, congressman Harris, but my understanding
18:55 in talking with members, there was some discussion about temporary extensions while the underlying health care system is being worked on in terms of the, making this maybe private driven through health care savings
19:06 accounts. But part of those discussions was that Hyde would have to be applied to any extension. That's what the Republicans said. Democrats said nonstarter.
19:17 That's absolutely right. And, the bottom line is that Hyde protections were not in the original Obamacare bill for obvious reasons. It was passed by Democrats, and, there's been a resistance to put it in. You know, the
19:28 rumor circulates well. There are Hyde like protections, you know, where it's subject somehow to Hyde. It's not. Obamacare needs a hide protection. And if and, there are a lot of Republicans, myself included, who feel
19:40 that if we open up Obamacare in any way, shape, or form, we should add hide protections to Obamacare. And that's why I think this is going nowhere. Look. If the Democrats were serious about, extending
19:51 these, the, again, the COVID area era, what we call Biden bonuses, these tax credits, then they they should be willing to add hide protection. But that's how, truly,
20:03 extremist they are, that they actually want they they want public funding for abortion, coverage even though a clear majority of Americans don't think that government and funds should be spent on abortion.
20:15 57 percent of Americans do not believe taxpayers should be forced. That's all Americans, all American voters. When you look at Republicans, it's about 67 percent, if I'm not mistaken, the last
20:27 poll, 67 percent of Republicans. So this is a red line for Republicans in that not they're not forced to fund abortion. Again, going back to to to this scenario,
20:39 congressman Harris, Republicans, I thought, were pretty generous in saying we will extend this temporarily while we fix the underlying problem of the unaffordable care act. But
20:51 for us to vote for this, which we've never voted for before, we'll vote for it, but you have to protect the unborn. I mean, that sounds like a pretty generous offer on behalf of the Republicans.
21:03 That's absolutely right, and that's that's the way, you know, a legislature should work. Every party is gonna give a little bit, but the Democrats, again, adhering to an extremist position, which is insisting on public
21:14 funding for Obamacare subsidies, even though they cover abortion. I mean, the bottom line is it's just a nonstarter. So, again, we thought and, again, it was gonna be part of a larger package, but without Hyde
21:26 amendments, it's just not going anywhere.
21:28 Okay. So let's talk about now, congressman Harris. The House Freedom Caucus has a plan for health care. Now that this you know, we've got all this hopefully, this noise will go away because they realize it's not going
21:40 anywhere. Tell us about what the House Freedom Caucus is putting forward.
21:45 So that's right. So we think that, that every American should be able to pick or choose the the health care they they the health care insurance that they want, or the health care that they want. They're not equivalent.
21:57 So we think that some of the, you know, the the faith ministries that that have health care sharing, we think those should be a completely allowed, choice for Americans. We think that every American should have a health
22:09 savings account or an equivalent into which their employer or they can put money. It's tax free, and they can choose, again, if they wanna go to a health sharing ministry, for their health care, that that they can do
22:21 that. If they wanna go to an association health plan, they can do that. If they wanna go to Obamacare, they can do that. But but it's paid but they make the choice, and we have many choices available. We think that's
22:30 what Americans want. They want, to to be able to spend their own dollars in a health savings account. And, again, employers can put it in, small businesses can put it in, and then they go into a marketplace that includes
22:42 many more choices than just Obamacare, which is a very expensive marketplace if you don't have huge federal subsidies.
22:49 And and I think these health savings accounts can also be structured in such a way to encourage healthy choices so that because you're controlling it yourself, the money's coming in there, and that we
23:00 can encourage good behavior, in terms of, you know, exercise, dieting, all of these things that lead to healthy outcomes. I think when people realize that they're paying for it and the money's
23:12 coming out of their pocket, indirectly through these health savings accounts, it could prompt healthier living and choices.
23:20 That's absolutely right. In fact, mister Burleson, 1 of our representatives in the in the Freedom Caucus, has suggested that once you have enough in your health savings account, you bought your insurance plan, you you
23:30 have enough to cover your deductible, you can use the rest of the money for healthy food. I mean, again, it just makes sense that we that we re return the ability of people to actually preserve their health,
23:42 not just treat their disease, out of out of, you know, out of health place.
23:47 I mean,
23:47 you pay for your health care your your, health club membership, other things that that lead to healthy, lifestyles. Alright. We just have a minute left. Appropriations, January thirtieth deadline to avoid a shutdown.
23:58 Where do we stand?
24:00 Well, we, passed another package of 3 bills today. But, Tony, to be honest with you, the 6 bills we have passed so far have been the easier ones. We have 2 more weeks to pass the other 6. I'm just not
24:12 sure it's gonna get done. We're gonna try. And if not, then we might have to do a continuing resolution. And, again, the new appropriation season basically is already starting in a couple of weeks, so we should just do a
24:22 continuing resolution to the end of the year. But I'm hoping that that we can negotiate a few more of the bills before the January thirtieth deadline.
24:29 But there is movement. It looks like these atrophied muscles of appropriations are starting to come back.
24:36 That's absolutely right. Because we've got 6 across the the desk that weren't part of omnibus. And today, we actually, voted on the the separate comp the components separately, and then can recombine them. The next step
24:48 is just vote on them separately and keep them separate.
24:51 Alright. Congressman Andy Harris, always great to see you, my friend. Thanks for joining us. Alright, folks. Stick with us. We're back with more
24:59 after this.
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27:51 lot of finger pointing and jumping to conclusions with some blaming the woman and others blaming the ICE agents who shot her. But as the house speaker Mike Johnson told reporters
28:03 yesterday, conclusions can't be drawn without knowing all the facts, and that requires a thorough investigation. Here's what he said.
28:12 So you don't think there's
28:13 do you don't think there's any chance the officer did anything wrong?
28:15 Even domestic terrorism. I don't
28:17 I officer did anything wrong.
28:18 I don't know. I wasn't there, and neither were you. And it's wrong for people to jump to these conclusions without a full investigation. You have to find out the facts on the ground, and I think that will happen.
28:29 Actually spoke with the speaker about that this morning. And, the fact is we need an investigation. But what should that process look like in in in such a charged politically charged environment?
28:41 Well, joining me now to discuss this is the former FBI assistant director, Wiley Thompson, who currently serves as director of security at the Family Research Council. Wiley, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for,Show more
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