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Dr. Jim Garlow is a lifelong pastor who most recently served in San Diego, California, and now leads Well Versed, a ministry dedicated to bringing biblical
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Foundations for Racial Healing: Biblical Truth and Cultural Myths 0:22 Well, we wanna welcome you to a video series, based upon a book that Dave Barton and I had the privilege of co authoring, This Precarious Moment, 6 Urgent Steps That Will Save You,0:34 Your Family, and Our Country. It was in late, 20 16, early 20 17 where I really sensed that our nation was on a short fuse0:46 for solving 4 major problems. And this would not be shocking to very many people, obviously, but that the there were 4 things God was saying, not just to the Trump administration, what was just coming into power, but to0:58 the church at large. And those 4 things were the issue of racial healing. The second 1 is the immigration issue being resolved from a biblical perspective. The third 11:09 is the relationship between the United States and Israel beyond proper biblical footing. And the fourth 1, a revival among millennials that affects the way they actually think and process information.1:21 Now as time went on, we did add 2 more things to that. I went to, Regnery Publishers, Salem Publishing, and shared, a topic I was gonna write about. And when Margie Ross said heard1:33 me talk about those 4, I said, write on those 4. I then said, could we have David Barton as a as a co author? And he said, of course. What I didn't know is that the book would take on a complete different dynamic. And I1:45 just wanna give credit where Cresta do. David wrote the lion's share of this book. And he and his team, their research is staggering. What this book would have been without David Barton, it wouldn't have been a book. So1:57 for that reason, I'm really honored to get to be David here with you. And let's tell people where we are. We're in a small town, west of Fort Worth, Texas called Aledo. Aledo, Texas, what's the population of Aledo?2:09 Well, the population itself is kinda landlocked. I think it's about 2500, but the community is probably about 25000. And we had a ranch in this town, and this was a rural community. I used to ride my2:21 horse back and forth to work here in this town. So I'm a cowboy. This is a country town. And 1 of the ranches we had here, the largest Charolais cattle ranch in the world, they just took and zoned that ranch2:32 for 50000 homes. So we're now looking at 250000 more people soon to be in our community.2:38 I'm so sorry. So yeah. Exactly. So there goes the ranch. There goes the ranch. But tell them what you are the owner of the largest collection of of writings from the2:50 founding fathers up to 18 12. How many volumes do you have here of original sources?2:56 We have originals or copies of originals of 120000 documents from before 18 12. So whatever the issue is, if it's racial issues, if it's black history, if it3:08 is church history, if whatever it is, we've got documents that relate to that. It it is amazing to see that throughout history, only our technology really changes over time. You3:20 go back to the early 17 hundreds, mid 17 hundreds, they were having debates on evolution and creation back then. We think that came in with Darwin. Darwin only took 2500 years of what had been out there with evolution,3:32 put it in a single book. But by 500 BC, by the time of Aristotle, every major argument on evolution already been presented. So we're arguing about that in the 17 hundreds. We have we have laws dealing with abortion3:44 in the 17 hundreds saying you cannot you cannot end the life in the womb. We have we deal with homosexuals in the military in the 17 hundreds. I mean, the very issues we have dealt with culture, we actually in the 173:56 nineties had a debate in Congress over whether Congress should bail out private businesses too big to fail. We've had all those debates in our lifetime. So what you find from history is only the technology4:07 changes, human nature does not change. And that's why with the issues we deal with here, whether it's race or whether it's immigration, whether it's Israel or anything else, we've already dealt with these issues in the4:17 past and so we can bring that historical perspective to it along with biblical knowledge that you have and that I have and we can bring into that also the area of statistics and show what works and what doesn't.4:28 Well, we're going to jump into the very first topic here. And well, these are some tough topics. If you bring up racial healing, and here's 2 white guys writing a book about racial healing, and if if you say4:40 things just 1 word wrong, it can touch off a firestorm. So this is a pretty delicate topic we're talking about here. We're not talking about all all I know everybody's in this in the human race. It's just 14:51 race. Human race are different ethnicities, but we're gonna use the word race right now in the way that's used by, conversation dimensional conversation. But we're gonna deal in this in this section with primarily black5:03 white relations over overwhelmingly. How do you wanna set this 1 up when we establish a foundation?5:08 Let's let's get a biblical viewpoint first because God says he does not look on the outside, he looks on the inside. So he makes it very clear in first Samuel, he looks at the heart, not at what's on the outside. What is5:19 in our color, what is in our ethnicity is all superficial from where he's he's looking. He looks on the inside. That's why in the Bible we're that's where we get the concept of equality. He said there's no Jew, there's5:30 no Greek, there's no male, there's no female, there's no bond, there's no free. He sees all mankind as being equal worth. It's significant that from that standpoint when when you look at what He has5:42 done, we're told in Acts 17, from 1 man He made all nations of men. So I was recently speaking in a very large black church in Detroit and I was doing black history in that church because5:54 we have so many original documents from black history. And I I read that verse and said, by the way, and I'm the only white guy in the church. I said, I am your hundred and fiftieth cousin because it's been 1506:04 generations since Adam. We all came from Adam. So every 1 of us are related. We're at least 100 and fiftieth cousin. So from that that's the way God looks at things. Now what man tends to do is is break out and we, over6:15 history, have broken out particularly in America, black against white. So that's that's the way it's often presented in universities today is racism is white on black. And there is some basis for that, but6:27 that's not the only racism that exists in the world. And by the way, we're gonna use the word race a lot and and understand that the word race is really not the right word. Since the 19 fifties, the UN does not talk6:39 about races, they talk about ethnicities. According to scientists, there's only 4 races in the world. And by the way, scientists tell us that 99.9 percent of all6:50 DNA is exactly the same, that races are superficial, but ethnicities are not. There's 24000 ethnicities in the world. So when we talk about race, which is what we use in America, it really means7:02 ethnicity. And and so in talking about race, black, white, that's really ethnicities more than it is races.7:09 We're we're going to spend time reading this book to you because you got the book in front of you. But this particular, is such a delicate topic to begin with. On page 10, I want to read the the very top of page 107:19 because people get really uptight when we talk about this topic. Can't even have a conversation on it with some people without individuals really, not able to handle the conversation. White some whites accuse black of7:31 whining when they bring up the inequities in life or hearken back to their past historical injustices. Whites accuse other whites of pandering when they try to reach out and understand blacks7:43 on difficult racial issues. Blacks accuse whites of being racist when they speak against the practices, policies, and beliefs of black leaders. Blacks accuse other blacks of7:55 being Uncle Toms when they agree with whites or believe differently from the vocal black leaders in in the culture. So these are some of the kind of challenge even starting the conversation Mhmm. That that makes8:07 it so difficult. I'm just praying, asking Holy Spirit to help us. This our nation has a short time to resolve this issue. I'm convinced. And and and what is the answer? You got a we got a section8:18 here that says sin requires repentance. Talk about it. Well, I I think we can say from a biblical viewpoint that racism is sin. It it8:27 just I mean, the Bible tells us that God doesn't favor 1 over another. They're equal in his eyes. We're his children. It's it's very significant. So to to be racist and by the way, definition of8:39 racism. Let me just give you a dictionary definition. Racism is the idea that and this is on page 11. The idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is8:50 inferior to others. So racism is when I say my group is higher than yours or your group is lower than mine. That's racism. That's a sin. But here's the deal, sin9:02 goes with every human group in the world. Sin is not just an American sin or it's not just a Jewish sin, it's not just a Muslim. Sin, it's human sin. Jesus Christ died for the sins9:14 of all men. And so when we say racism is sin, that then makes it no longer a black and white issue. There is not any group in the world that has not at 1 time been in slavery themselves and another time own slaves9:26 themselves.9:26 Yeah. We're gonna get into that later. That's kind of a shocking thing.9:29 It is. Every group in the world has been involved in slavery either as the recipient or as the 1 who actually imposes slavery. So it is a sin and that's the first thing to recognize. Now in America, the way we do it in9:41 college, we've reduced it to only 2 races that's and it actually is only white white privilege. So why only whites can be racist and and that's just not true by definition or by Bible or9:53 by history.9:54 And I had a black leader teach me as I I, the Lord convicted me on this topic. And a number of years ago, we're my wife and I won a 21 day fast, and we were coming to completion of that. And when the Lord touched me10:05 during that fast was on the issue of giving much more energy to racial healing. So I started meeting with numbers of blacks, groups of black. They said, teach me. I'll just take notes. I I want I wanna learn from you.10:17 That was very, very helpful. At 1.1 black pulled me aside from the group and he says, hey, don't let them talk to you about white privilege. I said, really? Why not? Common phrase. He said,10:28 no. Because there's a there's a a theory that says that according to some people that blacks cannot, by definition, be racist. And the reason they cannot, by definition, be racist is10:40 because they're the ones that tend to be more downtrodden in our contemporary culture. And since whites tend to have higher level socioeconomic, etcetera, therefore, a black cannot be racist. Only a10:52 white can be racist. Now that's a that's taught by even some people you and I would know Yeah. That that are that are pastor friends of ours. Yeah. Let's talk. I don't buy into11:04 that, and I was educated not to buy into it by a fellow, a black who's pulled me aside and says, hey, don't let me use that number on you. He said and here's the illustration he gave. If you're walking down the street11:15 late at night, you have 10000 dollars in your pocket, and you're white, and a guy comes who's black with a gun. Who has the power in that moment? Well, it's very obvious. Not the white guy with the 10000 dollars,11:27 the the guy with the gun. And this is the black11:29 guy telling you this.11:30 Yes. Yes. As an African American who's telling me this, he said the fact is that the power equation can change in an instant. Yeah. Do not let them work you over on that particular issue. However, that does not11:42 change the reality. What breaks our hearts and many people's hearts is the fact of racism, the sin of racism Yeah. That is is rampant in our culture.11:50 And 1 of the things that's happened in our culture is our as our culture anytime our culture moves away from biblical teachings, it is going to get into all sorts of problems, all sorts of sins. 1 of those sins is the12:01 sin of racism. So it it has been there in so many groups. I mean, racism toward African Americans, toward Native Americans, toward Chinese Americans. There's been all sorts of of instances of racism. The12:13 interesting thing, about racism is when you look at it, it has really been exacerbated by what we would call the progressive movement. It really got started back in 18 hundreds and it felt that you needed12:25 to break everyone into groups. And this has now resulted in what we call identity politics. Keith, extremely important, is ruining America. You look at Washington DC and say, okay, I want somebody lobbying for12:37 my values on Capitol Hill. Who am I? I'm just an average American. There's no lobbyist in Washington DC who lobbies for average Americans. They lobby for groups. They've got gays or they got straights or they got right12:46 to work or they got union or they've got seniors or African Americans or they got youth or they got Everybody's gotta be in a group. And that's the way we do policy. We have hate crimes where that back in 2006, Congress12:58 passed a law says, we're going to protect gays and lesbians from hate crimes. And 1 of my friends in Congress said, well, I I have an amendment. Let's also protect seniors and veterans. And they said, no, those aren't13:08 groups we want to protect. We wait a minute. Don't you wanna protect everybody? No. We break people into groups. We do our taxes. I have to know what group you're in. I have to know how much you make before I know how to13:18 treat you. And and we've got 5 or 6 groups that we break you in and we treat people differently. God says, hey, tithe 10 percent, everybody, rich, the poor. Now, the rich will always pay more than the poor, but everyone13:29 gets treated the same in God's kingdom. And so progressives have come in and broken us into groups. And instead of the the national phrase of e pluribus unum, which is on on our money, where out of many we13:41 become 1, we're e unum pluribus, out of 1 we become many. And so we're broke and that's where racism really gets exacerbated because it's my group against your group and you're different from me. And instead of13:52 seeing the heart and not caring about the skin, we have to look on the outside and figure out who you are. And that's what's really fostered racism in America. That is key to understanding,14:05 the tragedy going on in America right now today. That phrase identity politics is diabolical. It's from the pits pits of hell. We'll talk about the difference between words like race, nations,14:16 cultures, distinguish that, something can be preferential and not be prejudicial. Yeah. I mean, there are tendencies with cultures. For example, I mentioned I'm a cowboy. I'm I'm here in the country.14:28 Well, let's say all cowboys are white, which is not true. I mean, there are so many black cowboy friends I've got, but let's say all cowboys are white, which is what a lot of people think. And let's say that you're from14:39 New York City and you don't like cowboys. You like sophisticated you wanna go to Broadway, which is not where cowboys go. And you know what? I don't like cowboys and they're all white, so I hate whites. No. You may14:51 not like my culture, but that doesn't mean you don't like my race. Let me take a cowboy thing. I can look at opera and say, I'm not a fan of opera. You know, I'd I'd rather have a different kind of music.15:01 I don't believe that. I believe you've always enjoyed opera. Oh, yeah. You believe that? That's what you got set on the dial of your truck right now. But but let let let me15:08 make an identity let's just let's hypothetically say, Asians love opera. I say, I hate opera. Therefore, I hate Asians. And so what happens is we take cultural characteristics that15:20 may be associated with different groups and we blame it on the race and identify the race with it. Whereas there are people from every race that like country western music. There are people from every race that like15:29 NASCAR. There are people from every race that like opera. There are people from every race that And so what happens is we we tend to, again, progress and we tend to stereotype groups and say, you know what? This is the15:40 kind of food you like and I don't like that food, therefore, I don't like your race. That's crazy. But that's what we do is we confuse culture with race. And because a culture may have certain characteristics in it,15:52 doesn't mean that's part of the race. That means that's part of the culture. And that could be from the southern culture, the northern culture, the eastern culture, the midwestern culture, any other culture. And you16:00 can't confuse that with the race. And that's what a lot of people do today.Unveiling Slavery's History: Beyond Black-and-White Narratives 16:03 I want us to take us to a very, delicate topic, and that is to do with the word slavery. Because I I find people falling into 2 ditches,16:15 and they can't seem to walk on the racial healing highway without going in 1 ditch or the other. Mhmm. And 1 ditch is they're just if they're I suppose they're white. There's wallowing in guilt for everything16:27 that was ever done by any white person in all of human history against any black person. That's unhealthy. On the other side is a flippancy when whites will flippantly say, well, what's it to you? Why why should16:39 you be able to sing to a black? That happened slavery is 150 years ago. I wouldn't I I didn't have slaves. This is now. What do you what do you whining about? And so the lack of awareness Mhmm.16:51 On on the systemic evil that did actually impact our culture even to this day. But the other time the other side is that the the the ditch of manipulation. Yeah. So talk to us about17:03 let's just17:04 talk about the American slavery experience just just for a short paragraph. Yeah. The American slavery experience, it's interesting the way it started. I mean, it started 16 16 19. Is17:15 when we we go back to the beginnings, the roots of it. It really started later than that, but it's introduced in concept 16 19. And so It was17:23 sort of institutionalized later? It was But but well, but it17:26 is It it it really went through transitions and this is 1 of the nuances we failed to look at in history. Your your early forms of slavery were not plantation slavery, which is what we see in the deep south with large17:37 slave plantations. Actually, it was really household slavery. It's kinda like what Abraham had in some ways. Mhmm. And so your early slaves were part of your family. They slept with you in the house and you you took care17:48 of them. And as a matter of fact, in the south, the average, size of slaves to a to a farm was only 3 slaves to a farm and they were generally household slaves. They were all kind of living together. Now you get the17:59 picture of Gone of the Wind, you got a plantation with hundreds of slaves, that was the exception. And that was not the way it started. So back in the beginning, it started for from indentured servants, then moved to18:10 household slaves, then moved into plantation stuff. And when you got into plantation stuff, that's where it gets so barbaric. That's where you see the whippings. That's where you see the rapes and the atrocities. And and18:20 you're treating human beings like they're livestock, and you're breeding them like you would live So all of that, that that really onerous now slavery is wrong. All the way we've we've said from the beginning, slavery is18:31 a sin. It is wrong. It is not what God wants. It violates it violates very simply the golden rule. It violates the great commandment to love your neighbors you love yourself, all of that. So it's18:43 a sin, but the part we look at as being so onerous happened about 200 years after its introduction. And so it evolved and got worse all along the way. And and that's where you see equally the rise of the18:54 anti slavery movement and and the Christian leaders and and so much in the second great awakening was built around fighting slavery and the equality of all mankind. So those who had a biblical view always fought slavery.19:06 You know, we can look at slavery and talk about how bad it is, but there is no other nation in the history of the world where the whites went to war against whites to free blacks, to free slaves. No other nation's ever19:16 done that. And that's how many abolitionists you had that were whites that thought slavery was wrong and they're willing to go to war to end that evil. That is a significant fact that often does not get pointed19:28 out.19:28 Rewind that statement. We're the only nation in which whites In19:32 which whites went to war against whites to free black slaves. Yeah. No other nation's done that. So you you can't say all whites are racist because there's a whole bunch that laid down their19:43 lives 620000 lives later in the civil war before we get slavery ended. But there is always been a huge contingency of those who knew slavery was wrong, who fought against it, who opposed it. Sometimes19:55 through through using legal methods and going to court, etcetera. Sometimes it got into picking up arms and having to fight to end slavery. But we've always had a strong contingency of folks who knew that slavery was20:07 wrong.20:07 I think 1 of the most amazing chapter on this topic is, chapter 5. For those who are following on we're on page I see we have page 25. The number of blacks who owned slaves,20:19 Native Americans who owned slaves Yeah. Hispanics who owned it. In other words, this was a phenomenon that occurred among many people groups.20:27 Here here's the problem we have and and what we cover in in that chapter 5 is racism without a primary color. If it's a sin, it applies to all people. And even in America, and this is what does not get brought out in20:38 history, that if we knew it would it would change our perspective. For example, institutional slavery. Owning a slave for a lifetime was introduced when a black man went to court in Virginia and said, that guy there is20:48 my indentured servant. He needs to be my slave. Institutional slavery came to America because a black man went to court to keep another black man in perpetual slavery. Nobody knows that there's a black man who introduced20:59 perpetual slavery in America. The second point that doesn't get pointed out is that if you look at Carter Woodson, who is the father of black history, he documented at the time of the Civil War when you looked at free21:10 blacks in the South, for example, free blacks in South Carolina, and there were a lot of free blacks in the South. 43 percent of the free blacks in South Carolina owned black slaves. And and it's you know, you go through21:22 the other states, we we go through all the other states who had that. So 25 percent of those in Alabama, 20 percent of free blacks in Georgia, 26 percent of free blacks in in, Mississippi, 40 percent of free21:34 blacks in Louisiana, they owned black slaves. So you have black on black slavery, and at a high percentage among free blacks in the South. The third thing is that Native American tribes in21:46 18 61 out of every 12 living in Native American tribe was a black slave. So Native Americans had a high rate of slavery among among their their tribes of black21:58 slaves, and it's always white on black. No, no, no. Sometimes it's red on black or it's black on black. So slavery exists among all races, and by the way, Indian slavery lasted longer than black slavery did. Indians22:09 enslaved other Indians and the the thirteenth amendment ended slavery in 18 65, but it did not end it on Indian reservations because Indian reservations are their own nations.22:18 Mhmm.22:18 They had slavery of Indians owning Indians longer than we had, slavery with black Americans. Number 4 is the first slave laws in America that were they go back from 16 1622:30 70 thereabouts. The first slave laws addressed only black slaves, white slaves, and Indian slaves. It was just people making slaves out of people. And actually, as it says here from 16 70 to 1722:42 20, more Indian slaves were shipped out of South Carolina than African slaves were imported into South Carolina. So we were shipping Indian slaves all over the world out of America, and and that doesn't get pointed.22:53 Again, this is a sin problem. It's a human problem. Number 5, Muslims in the founding era, Muslims took 1250000.00 slaves, and they were often enslaving Christians. It was Muslims enslaving23:05 Christians. So we don't talk about that form of slavery. You know, why is it only white on black slavery? It it exists with all races, all colors. 6, in the American, experience, the vast majority of whites23:17 did not own slaves at all. At the time of the Civil War, only 8 percent of whites in the South owned slaves. 92 percent did not own any slaves.23:25 Well, repeat that only. This is easy. At the23:27 time of the Civil War, only this is by the US Census Bureau who went home to home in every in every home. Only 8 percent of whites in the South owned slaves. 92 percent did not. And the23:38 average slave owner in the South had 3 slaves, and that's at the time of the Civil War. So institutional slavery, again, like we see with Gone with the Wind, that was rare, but that's the image we have today. And so23:50 you you look at issues like that, again, it's a human problem. But if you know history, it changes your perspective and and it's no longer just this group against this group, it's sin against everybody24:02 else.Biblical Insights, Global Reality, and Prayer for Repentance 24:03 In the Old Testament, in Hebrew culture, slavery was quite a bit different than the severity of the whippings and such. There was actually a season if you were slave and you could be set free24:15 That's right. On your, what, 6 years. That's right. In the 6 years. And and then you think of and the writings in the New Testament where a person could choose to continue being a slave voluntarily. Voluntarily. Like a24:25 love slave.24:26 And and if you harmed a slave or put a mark on them, they were freed. If you broke the tooth of a slave, they were freed. If they got away, you were not allowed to go recapture them and bring them back. I mean, the slave24:34 laws in the Bible, totally different from anything that was experienced in America regardless. And slave laws in the Bible existed primarily because you conquered someone in battle. You had the right to kill them, but24:44 you decided not to kill them. You let them live, but they would be your slave. So that was a primary form of slavery. Although you could have an economic slavery that is like an indentured servant. If you'll work for me24:54 for 7 years, you'll pay off your debt and you get to be free. I'll free at the end of 7 years. And that's the way many people came to America. And by the way, it's here's another secret25:02 Repeat that right there because I think that's that gets lost on on most people.25:05 What what we call slavery in America, we say that slavery came to America in 16 19, James did not. Indentured servants came to America. What happened was, they're in Europe and they say, you know, it's gonna cost me25:16 10000 bucks to get to America. I only make 500 bucks a year. I can't afford that. A guy says, well, I'll I'll bring you to America. You get a new start on life. I'll pay your passage but you're gonna have to work for me25:27 7 years to pay it off. After 7 years, you're free, you get land. And so that's an indentured servant. Now that's not a slave, that's someone paying off a loan that was made to bring him there. And so the first people25:37 brought to America were indentured servants and that's also what you see in the Bible. You work for a certain number of years, you're free, you're then get set up in in your in your own business so to speak. And so25:47 that's the way a lot of America happened in indentured servants and and so that's a perspective that's not out there. But again, that's what you see in the Bibles. Either you we could have killed you in battle as an25:58 enemy or we make you an indentured servant and pay off a debt. But see the other thing that people don't recognize is in the 350 years of the African slave trade. Do you know how many slaves were26:10 brought from Africa to the Western world? 10400000.0. How many of those were brought to America?26:21 388000, my. 5400000.0 African slaves were brought to Brazil. Only 388000 came to America. You would think that the way we hear history,26:33 you'd think that all 10400000.0 were brought to America. Now, again, having 1 in America is wrong. But it's not the way that it's presented with with so many that are in a political effort to make it look26:45 different today. So that 380000 now, slavery is wrong. Guess what? In all of 350 years of slave trade, you have 10400000.0 brought out of Africa. Today,26:56 there are 40000000 in the world today in active slavery right now. Yeah. 40 mil If we're concerned about slavery, man, we need to focus Yeah. On it today. Whether it's sex slavery, whether it's economic slavery,27:08 whether it's farm slavery, it's bigger than it's ever been in the history of the world right now.27:14 In the New Testament, when Paul writes to Philemon regarding his slave Onesimus, he actually the the bottom line, he says, when he returns, treat him like a brother. Mhmm. Treat him like a brother. So27:26 Paul undercuts totally cuts off at the knees, any of the kind of oppressive force upon another individual. That's right. And treat him like a brother puts him puts Onesimus on a complete different27:37 standing with Philemon, than what he might have been had Paul not given that kind of exhortation. As we come to the conclusion of this first section, a delicate topic, a racial healing, let's27:49 pray. We have prayers included at the end of every section and are not just to be read. In fact, let's pray this prayer together right now if we can. Lord, our nation28:01 is hurting. We cry out for racial healing. We refuse to be in denial of the sin of racism that can impact us in ways we do not always recognize.28:13 Help us recognize those ways. If we have been victims of racism, we refuse to live in bitterness. If we have harbored racism, we repent. Help us all28:25 become catalyst for racial healing. Amen.In this video 0:00 Foundations for Racial Healing: Biblical Truth and Cultural Myths16:03 Unveiling Slavery's History: Beyond Black-and-White Narratives24:03 Biblical Insights, Global Reality, and Prayer for Repentance
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