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Global and Domestic Challenges Through a Biblical Lens 0:00 From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, DC, bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and0:12 newsmakers, all from a biblical world view. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.0:18 Hamas is a very small part of peace in the Middle East, and they have to behave. They're, on the rough side, but they said they would be good. And if they're good, they're0:30 gonna be happy. And if they're not good, they're gonna be terminated. Their lives will be terminated, and they understand that.0:40 Well, that was president Trump earlier today saying the US backed Gaza ceasefire remains intact after Israel launched air strikes against Hamas terrorists. So0:52 as of now, the US is standing firm with Israel. Welcome to this October 20 ninth edition of Washington Watch. I am your host today, Jody Heise, filling in for Tony Perkins. Thank you so much1:04 for tuning in. Alright. Coming up today, as the world waits for president Trump to meet with China's president in South Korea, people of faith are watching1:16 to see what he'll do on the issue of religious freedom. We'll We'll shortly hear from the son of a South Korean pastor who's been jailed for speaking up for biblical values.1:28 Also, congress congressman Michael Cloud from Texas will join me in a few moments to give us the latest on the government shutdown.1:43
1:55 Israel said that it killed dozens of Hamas terrorists last night. They also confirmed another strike today, killing 2 more Hamas terrorists in northern Gaza. So
2:07 this is the worst escalation since the ceasefire, the shaky ceasefire took place on October tenth. Joining me now is Washington stand reporter Casey
2:19 Harper. Thanks, Casey, for, joining me. Man, this ceasefire looks like it's hanging by a thread. What's the latest that you're hearing about it right now?
2:29 Yeah. Hanging by a thread indeed is certainly the case, Jody. But Israel said that they are upholding their end of the ceasefire despite those strikes which were last night and into this morning. Now the strikes
2:41 came after Hamas fighters attacked and killed an Israeli soldier, which, of course, is a violation of this u x US backed truce. But president Trump made clear, Hamas has to honor the ceasefire,
2:53 and he doubled down on America's commitment to defend Israel.
2:57 They took out they killed an Israeli soldier, so the Israelis hit back. And and they should hit back. When that happens, they should hit.
3:05 However, while Hamas released all living hostages and Israel has stopped its strikes, at least for now, attention has shifted to the return of those 13 deceased hostages, which has still not been returned. Hamas says,
3:17 well, it's gonna take time, but Israel says that Hamas is purposefully delaying returning the bodies possibly just to keep leverage over Israel. And with all these hang ups, the a lot of strikes for a ceasefire,
3:29 Jody, but we'll see whether it remains intact.
3:33 Wow. A lot going on there in Israel. At the same time, the president is in Asia. What are you hearing about how things are going there?
3:42 Yeah, Jody. So president Trump, he finalized a major trade deal with South Korea today. So South Korea is gonna invest 350000000000 dollars in the US in exchange for lower tariffs from the president.
3:54 This is gonna be a big boost for American workers and industries. But now the attention is moving to Trump's meeting with Chinese president Xi Jinping in Busan tomorrow. The president is reportedly hoping
4:06 to restore a trade truce after we nearly entered a trade war with China. Some key US goals in the negotiation are getting China to delay rare earth export restrictions, which are really important for microchips
4:17 and AI and the like, as well as resume buying American soybeans. Trump also wants, China to crack down on fentanyl production, which because those drugs inevitably end up in the US.
4:29 And the president is hoping to resolve the TikTok issue with part of TikTok possibly coming under US ownership. So as you can see, it's a very big week for the president and for the US economy, Jody.
4:42 It really is a huge, huge week. I I you look at it, I mean, incredible successes seemingly, but at the same time, all eyes are on what's happening with the next meeting with,
4:54 China's leader. Casey, if I can, back here to Washington DC, the government shutdown. What is there any movement at all that you're hearing? How do things stand right now with the
5:06 shutdown?
5:07 Jody, every day I come on and disappoint you. I'm sorry. We're at day 29, and there's no end in sight to the shutdown. And to be frank, we're gonna see some major consequences for that. First of all, Mary, millions of
5:18 Americans may may may not be able to pay their heating bills this winter because of the government shutdown. How is that? Well, about 3600000000.0 dollars in federal funds goes to the Low Income Home Energy Assistance
5:30 Program, but now it's being delayed. On top of that, Americans can expect flight delays, which we've talked about on the program, and 42000000 Americans relying on federal food stamps are gonna face
5:42 cuts. Republican congressional leaders, including senate majority leader John Thune, they're continuing to accuse Democrats of obstruction, of being held hostage by the far left base, and
5:53 Americans are the ones paying the price.
5:55 Democrats have spent a month, a month now, playing with people's livelihoods because the far left wing of their party won't let them accept a clean,
6:07 nonpartisan CR. Enough is enough.
6:14 The senate is expected to vote again tomorrow for the fourteenth time on a clean CR, but Democrats are expected to block the measure once again keeping the government shutdown in place, Jody.
6:27 Wow. Just wonder when all the insanity will stop. Casey, thank you so much for these updates. We appreciate it. Alright. I wanna continue the discussion on the government shutdown from a
6:39 congressional perspective. And joining me now to discuss this and more is congressman Michael Cloud. He's a member of the Appropriations Committee as well as the Oversight and Government Reform
6:51 Committee. He represents the great state of Texas, the 20 seventh district there. Congressman Cloud, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always an honor to have you.
7:01 Sure thing. Good to good to be on with you today.
7:04 Alright. So what is the latest chatter that you're hearing on the government shutdown? Is any progress potential out there?
7:15 Well, I wish I could tell you there's a a whole lot more news to report on this, but, sad to say, it's another trip around the sun, so to speak, with the Democrats digging in still in the senate and not
7:27 willing to, move off their untenable positions. Remember, this is funding that they initially passed, and the things that they've complaining about, have nothing to do with this piece of legislation
7:39 or, for example, the deadlines that they're concerned about or deadlines that they set in place and, voted on. So, there's really nothing for, us to do as Republicans when it comes to this piece of legislation. There
7:50 aren't our priorities. There are their priorities. We were simply looking to keep the government up and running while we extend the calendar so we can complete the appropriations process which does have our priorities in
8:01 it. That's a good place to negotiate if they want to but right now this is meant to just keep the doors open. Sadly, even the timeline on this, if it were to pass today, which it looks like the Dems are gonna continue to
8:13 dig in for the next few days, would only increase the calendar for a few more weeks. And so we we have some work to do. We're gonna need them to play ball in the senate to to get the work done for the American
8:24 people.
8:26 Yeah. I mean, all this, as you mentioned, are things that they've supported in the past, which makes you think this is all about just their dislike for president Trump, which is not a worthy enough reason to shut down
8:38 the government. But I don't know if you've heard about this, congressman Cloud. I heard about it just a little while ago, but evidently, senate majority leader John Thune is expecting to meet with a group of rank and
8:49 file, house Democrats, about the shutdown. Is there are you hearing anything about that? What do you make of it? Is there potential that they could be looking for an off ramp
9:01 right now and put an end to it?
9:04 I I'm certain there's some senate dems who do want an off ramp. Even Schumer, I think, if he had an idea to how to save face and get out of it, probably would want out of it. As you mentioned, this is he's not opposed
9:15 policy wise. This is legislation that he's voted for a number of times. It's just, he's quite in the political pickle, so to speak, in in what to do both in dealing with what he has politically going on back in his home
9:27 and, state and then, how to keep the far left extreme of their wing happy. And so they're in a hard place
9:39 when they stop putting the American people first and putting what needs to be done first. This isn't a policy argument with them. They've even said as much as, you know, this is the only leverage we have to try to score
9:49 whatever political points they they need to score. And so, hopefully, we'll be able to find some more sensible, senate Democrats who can, you know, see the fact that something needs to
10:01 move here and maybe 1 by 1, help us come to pass this impasse. But, you know, that's so far, all we've seen is the digging into the hills, and and that's not good for
10:13 anyone.
10:14 Yeah. And they're certainly not winning either. Every poll I've seen has Republicans taking advantage of this in all the polls with the American people. I wanna ask you this real quickly, then I wanna change topics with
10:25 you. But, all of this, the the CR was voted on back over a month ago or about a month ago, September nineteenth. But all that was to try to just push this out 7
10:37 weeks, which that deadline would be November twelfth. So even I mean, November 20 first. So even if the Democrats did pass something now, does that deadline need to
10:48 be changed? And, you know, if so, what would happen there? What else might change?
10:55 Yeah. The deadline certainly is an issue at this point as we get close. Again, the goal was for us to have time to work and to conference on the appropriations bills that are coming through. We've
11:06 already passed them out of out of the committee, and they need to be addressed in conference committee between, the house and the senate and then on to the floor. But, you know, we're running out of
11:18 time to do that. And so the date is most definitely going to be an issue. And this is, again, as you mentioned, you know, I'm no fan of CRs but it was a way for us to get to the
11:30 proper appropriations and process. The the big vision here is we're trying to break the back of the Christmas omnibus. We've been making some headway over the last several years in this, but, of course, the swamp wants
11:42 to swamp, and they're gonna do everything they can to manipulate the calendar, to dig in their heels, to do whatever they can to push us to that massive, multi thousand page bill with trillions of spending that nobody
11:53 knows what's in it that does nothing but expand government and and put a heavy debt burden on the American people, and has no policy wins. That's not what this president's about. That's not what Republicans in
12:05 Congress are working for. And so we're gonna do everything we can in spite of of the tricks and games that they're pulling and and trying to manipulate the calendar to to make sure that we're breaking the back and and
12:16 getting gains for the American people, not only in the policy, but in how Washington DC works.
12:23 Well, thank you for standing firm with that. Real quickly, we've only got a little over a minute left, but, you also serve on the oversight committee. Great committee. You keep the staff there in that committee released
12:34 a report yesterday on, president Biden's auto pen presidency. Tell us about that real quickly.
12:42 Well, what what so many Americans expected has been true. And, you know, many of many people are wondering who's really running the White House. And what we found out is that the staff was doing quite a bit of the work
12:52 even when it came to signing pieces of the legislative or executive orders I should say or signing pardons.
13:01 You
13:01 know and this is very troubling especially when you find out that that staff members were approving the use of the auto pin And and you even had Biden's DOJ saying this is
13:13 probably not a good idea to be using, the auto pin machine on things that have any sort of legal merit to it, you know. Birthday cards, Christmas cards. Okay. We understand you can't
13:25 invent millions to handwritten signatures from the president. But but when it comes to things that have legal consequences, the president needs to be involved, certainly needs to know about it and actually be the 1
13:35 signing it.
13:37 Absolutely. Congressman Michael Cloud of Texas, as always, thank you for joining us on Washington Watch. By the way, I want everyone to know that tomorrow, the House Freedom Caucus
13:49 and FRC will be hosting a national prayer event. Find out more, text praise, plural, praise to 6 7 7 4 2. We'll be back in a moment.
14:00 Our founding scripture for this is Ephesians chapter 6 verse 13. Therefore, take up the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand in the evil day, and having done all to stand,
14:13 stand therefore. Family Research Council's Pray Vote Stand Summit 20 25 brought together Christian leaders, issue experts, and government officials for a time of prayer,
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14:37 At its heart, it is spiritual.
14:40 We gather in a nation that has torn the foundation apart, and we have separated our governing documents for my divine source, Jesus Christ. We need
14:52 truth now more than ever to guide us.
14:56 I'm believing. God, let this be a testimony of the American church that we become so full of the fire of the word of God that we cannot contain it. We have to tell people about it.
15:08 We have to make disciples.
15:10 The idea of America was the idea that our rights don't come from government. They they come from our divine creator. Right? Government's main job is to protect those rights. And because that was the
15:22 foundation of America, we've enjoyed over
15:24 the last 250 years more freedom,
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15:33 We are living in a moment. What's that moment? It's a prophetic moment on God's time line.
15:39 That's right.
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15:47 The number 1 issue facing America domestically, which is the epidemic of fatherlessness. 40 percent of all American epidemic of fatherlessness. 40 percent of all American children today enter the world without a father
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17:03 Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Jody Hice. I'm honored to be filling in today for Tony, and thank you so much for tuning in as well. Alright. As you know by now, President Trump is in South
17:15 Korea. This is the last stop of his 5 day Asia tour. And while the media, at least, the legacy media is focused on what's been and what could be
17:27 coming out of all the trade talks between the US and various Asian nations. Religious liberty advocates are eyeing what the president might do for religious freedom. Now those
17:39 of you who joined us yesterday Well, today
17:53 Well, today, now we have joining us the son of a South Korean church leader who has been jailed essentially for doing what we here at FRC have
18:05 been encouraging Christians to do for a long, long time, and that is to pray, vote, and stand for biblical values. We're here now to share his father's story is Chance
18:16 San. Chance, thank you for joining us today on Washington Watch.
18:22 Yeah. Thank you so much for having me here. It's my honor to be able to tell my father's story.
18:28 Well, let's start with that. Your your father is a well known pastor in South Korea. Tell us briefly a little bit about your father. Give us a brief introduction about
18:40 him.
18:41 Yeah. So my father is a senior pastor of Saegui Church located in Busan, 1 of Korea's most influential evangelical churches, with up to 10000 weekly attendees on Sundays. And only a few other
18:53 exceptionally influential churches are located in Seoul. And he took a very struggling rural congregation of 20 people and grew it into this major church through evangelism and community
19:05 service. And he's also known for personal integrity as he has never accepted a honoraria. That's very common in Korea when you go to funeral or go to revival. However, he's
19:17 never taken it. And also, he also they donated all, book proceeds to ministry. And he's called, special forces pastor, as
19:28 well. So what has happened to him? What, sound like an upstanding man of, impeccable character? What what has happened, and what's the situation with your father
19:40 now?
19:41 Yeah. So he's facing 16 16 lawsuits, actually right now for simply holding worship during COVID restrictions and also opposing anti biblical homosexuality
19:54 law, the amp and the the comprehensive anti discrimination law. And also, basically opposing the tyranny that the Democrats are, doing in Korea right
20:06 now. And he's been arrested ever since September eighth 20 25 for alleged, illegal action electioneering as prosecutors claim,
20:18 sermons, prayer meetings, and microphone, and YouTube uploads are a disguised campaign rallies. And in reality, there is no direct call to vote. However, because he
20:29 invited a candidate for superintended of education in Busan, simply asking him 2 questions, how his views are regarding freedom in education and also
20:41 LGBTQ education that's been affecting our families and children. That's basically what the charges are, and it's only under 9 minutes. And he invited Doug
20:53 Kennedy onto the pulpit, after the sermon service, and that's what they're calling it, for illegal electioneering for using the PA
21:05 system because under the civil law election law, you're not allowed to use PA system and endorsing a candidate even though he wasn't even, he was just simply asking him questions.
21:17 Wow. All of this, Chance, is so unusual to me. I mean, we're talking South Korea. We're not talking about China or North Korea. In fact, just a couple of weeks ago, I was
21:28 honored to be the keynote speaker at the South Korea US National Prayer Breakfast. We've, have I mean, we typically think of South Korea as a nation with a strong church presence. How have
21:40 things changed there?
21:43 Yes. Since COVID era, when this government was telling churches to hold only 5 worshipers or 20 worshipers depending on the the period, a lot of Korean churches comply with
21:54 that. However, my father's church, my father and secular church, was the only megachurch that did not comply with that. And because it was absurd to only
22:06 allow 5 worshipers in a sanctuary, for example, Sacred Church can contain up to 6007 thousand members. However, as however, my my father, and secretary of church conducted
22:19 service with more than thousands. Of course, social distancing when wearing mask, but it was, to extend the church was closed down, shut down physically with ropes
22:30 behind, around the church and also lockdown. And, there was COVID and not not a lot of not enough of, Korean church leaders spoke out about
22:42 it. That's why the government the Democrat government is pushing these agendas harshly more and more. And that they have been successful in
22:54 that.
22:55 Yeah. So president Trump is there in South Korea right now, and he is aware. In fact, he's made comments about the raids and so forth that have taken place. What would you hope what would you encourage
23:07 president Trump to say right now in South Korea to his counterpart?
23:13 Yeah. Urge South Korea to respect freedom of lordship and also freedom, is not only essential in this world, but to remind South Korea that US and
23:25 Korea partnership is built not just on security and by the state,
23:38 as they have been rated, in May Sacred Church. And in July, Yoyi the Full Gospel, and in July again, Far East Bros. Broadcasting Company, that's founded by reverend
23:49 Belekim.
23:52 Less than a minute left. How would you encourage people here in the United States to pray? What are the biggest needs right now?
24:00 Yeah. So, basically, pray for the current church now about only my father because it's not so about 1 person, but for the current church to be faithful and not fearful, because courage is very,
24:12 very demanding right now, even under our persecution of the religious leaders and also Christians in Korea. And also pray for leaders in Korea and the US to defend the religious freedom
24:24 and also stand against the political retaliation. And that's, what's needed the most and also to be truth be told by the by the Christian leaders and, Korean
24:36 church as well. Not not let it down. This is time to take offense.
24:40 Thank you. Thank you so much, Chance Son. We will be praying for your father, pastor Son Yeon Bo. Alright. Coming up, friends, we've got some important
24:52 elections coming up next week. We wanna unwrap all of that and the importance of it. We'll do so right after you break. Stay tuned.
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25:49 vital and strategic part of the nation's identity. The October seventh massacre launched from Gaza shattered the illusion that giving away territory brings peace. Gaza, which was once
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26:12 all but collapsed. The Middle East is changing. Iran's grip is weakening. New alliances are forming, but Western countries and some US officials still chase the mirage of a
26:32 China and Samaria are 24 times larger than Gaza, deeply woven into Israel's geographic and spiritual fabric. To surrender them would not bring peace. It would invite conflict
26:44 and existential danger. Family Research Council stands with Israel's rightful claim to sovereignty. It's time for America to do the same for history, for justice, and for lasting security in the
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27:03 Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good afternoon. I am Jody Heise filling in today for Tony, and thank you for joining us as well. Alright. The midterm elections are a year
27:14 away, but next week gets kicked off some off year elections, and that certainly will be setting the stage for the elections coming up next year.
27:26 And there are some pretty notable contests that will be taking place, including the high stakes governor's races in Virginia
27:38 FRC. We we all need to encourage 1 another to be informed, to be engaged. It certainly is our civic responsibility, but also our responsibility as Christians biblically.
27:50 I mean, we we need to let our light shine in the public square. Well, joining me now to give a preview of next week's elections is Matt Carpenter. He's the director of FRC
28:02 Action. Matt, thank you for joining me today. As always, good to have you.
28:07 Thanks for having me, Jody.
28:10 Alright. Let's kick it off with some of the most notable races next week, particularly Virginia, New Jersey, and New York. Can you kinda break those down for us?
28:20 Yeah. Joe, your your comments were spot on. Both of this both of those states, Virginia and New Jersey, are sort of considered bellwethers. Oftentimes, Virginia will elect a governor, of the opposite party from the from
28:32 whoever won the previous presidential election that that has kinda held, historically. There's been a few exceptions for that. So there's a lot of eyes on Virginia in that race. We've got Democrat Abigail Spamberger
28:44 facing off against Republican Winsome Earl Sears. Now Spamberger has held a pretty consistent lead outside the margin of error in that 1. But, in the late stretch, just around the time when early
28:56 voting started in the Commonwealth, the text messages from Democrat nominee for attorney general Jay Jones became the light where he fantasized about the violent deaths of his political opponents and their families. And
29:08 so that has kinda, thrown a lot up in the air. We've seen some of the polling sorta start to sink for some of the Democratic candidates. So it seems to be tightening, but I would say, the Democrats are certainly probably
29:20 favored in that 1. Much closer contest in New Jersey where you've got Republican Jack Ciattarelli, I believe I'm saying that correctly, who who almost actually won in 20 21, against
29:32 Democrat incumbent Phil Murphy in New Jersey facing off against Democrat Mickey Sherrill. So Sherrill has had a lead in this 1 kinda consistently throughout the race, but it's been within the margin, of error among
29:44 most of the public polling I've seen. So it's a close race, but a lot of attention, as you pointed out, for the New York City mayoral race this year, where Democrat nominee Zoran Mondani,
29:55 an avowed socialist, repeatedly refusing to condemn Hamas, and just a slew of other extreme hard left, policies is the front runner in that 1. He's
30:07 got about 45 percent of the support from New Yorkers and all the publicly available polling. And it's a 3 way race. You've got independent, Andrew Cuomo, former Democrat governor, and then also Curtis Sliwa. So you've
30:19 got this trifecta of candidates who are sort of cutting against this the support that, would be going after Maumdani's support there in New York. Obviously, our country's largest
30:31 city, immensely important what
30:34 comes out of there.
30:35 And all of this, and our time's cooking away pretty rapidly. But, all of this is, historically kinda sets the stage for the midterm elections that'll take place. How
30:47 high stakes is the elections next week going to be, you think?
30:52 I think it's incredibly, high stakes. It's always a barometer of voter enthusiasm. That's kind of the big takeaway in on these low turnout, generally, off your elections or low turnout elections. It's a it's a chance
31:04 for most of the major parties to figure out how energized is our base of support.
31:11 So what about in the midst of all this too? We have a lot of battling taking place over redistricting. What's some of the latest news on that?
31:21 Good. It's like every day, there's something new coming out on this redistricting fight. We've we just saw today the, senate president in Maryland came out against redistricting. This was a surprise. It's a Democrat
31:33 controlled state. Democrat governor Wes Moore in Maryland came out in favor of redistricting as did the, Democrat speaker of the house there in Maryland. So for the for the senate president in Maryland to throw cold
31:44 water on that idea, is a departure from what we've seen where you just have kinda seen state after state respond to what started in Texas and then California took over. But, actually, we've also got news that now
31:56 Virginia has been looking at redistricting. Now they've got, they've got a complex situation. They've got to amend their constitution, which requires them to pass a constitutional amendment in 2 different sessions of the
32:07 legislature and get all this done before April. So they don't have any margin for error. You've also got a special session in Indiana starting next week. Governor Braun called a special session there to look at redrawing
32:19 districts. And, Jody, as you know, the way you draw a district is gonna, basically predetermine what kind of outcomes you can get from that district. It goes a long way to determine an election outcome.
32:31 Well, it's it's all just, it just seem like there's so many plates spinning. Matt, I know our time is just about up. I I did want to just give you and FRC Action a plug.
32:44 Along with iVoter Guide, I had Debbie Wuthnow on with me Monday. She's the president of iVoter Guide, which is a resource that that you and, FRC Action use.
32:56 Fantastic resource here in less than a minute that we have left. What do you say to people who may not be considering voting yet? And what do you say about iVoter Guide?
33:07 Yeah. Usually supportive of Debbie and the work that they're doing over at iVoter Guide. I would highly encourage everyone to go check out f r c action dot org. Go to iVoter Guide dot com. You see the the, the websiteShow more
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