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0:22 Welcome to Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle. I'm Michelle Humphreys.0:26 And I am Naina Keegan. Welcome to the broadcast today. We're gonna do things a little differently here today. Michelle and I get so many people all over our social media, wanting to know0:37 our stories, asking how we got saved, asking how we got started in ministry, and so we thought we would do we would interview each other, and so we're gonna0:49 do just that. We're gonna let you know all the questions that you've been asking.0:55 Yeah. So I'm gonna start off. You know, a lot of times when people see you Naina, you know, you speak and you have written 2 books and you have a huge social1:07 media presence, a huge, you know, Naina Keegan Ministries Facebook page. You do Grace Grace with Nyna and Michelle and I mean they see you here1:19 but it started in Chicago. So what was it like growing up in Chicago?1:27 Well, I say I'm from Chicago, it's actually suburbia. I was about an hour southwest of Chicago. But growing up, know, literally it was like a town like Mayberry.1:39 You didn't your doors.1:41 Really cold. That1:43 beautiful area in there's a I grew up near Starved Rock, Illinois where we had big beautiful waterfalls. Know that seems crazy. Nobody really knows about that there's huge1:55 gorgeous waterfalls and canyons in Illinois, but that's where I grew up. So a very, beautiful area, but I had a really kind of a rough childhood. I didn't I2:06 didn't really I was I was born and raised Catholic, Italian Catholic family. I went to a Catholic school. I I had a very difficult childhood in my2:18 home. I I really never heard a kind word growing up.2:22 What was that like? Not to I mean, that that had to shape you in some way, not ever hearing a kind word.2:28 It it was a it was a difficult time. I had a very difficult in our home, it was just that there was it was you you felt a lot of fear and anger, and you felt like you were always2:40 waiting for the other shoe to drop, something was always chaotic in the house, it was always, it was a very sad and hard time, I was very very anxious, and then I would go to school2:52 and the nuns were just very very mean to us. They would yell at us and scream at us and and, call you dumb and stupid. I remember 1 time this nun, was leaning3:04 back on my chair like the like kids do, and I had a nun come and tell me that that if I didn't stop that, the good Lord was gonna choke me.3:13 Oh my goodness. I So that so that shaped your opinion of God.3:18 I thought God was so mad at me all the time and so mean. I had a nun tell me by the time I was 9 that I was going to hell. And so I thought God was What3:27 will that do to you?3:28 I was so scared of God and I thought he was so mean and he just hated me. That's what I thought. I thought everyone hated me and that's kind of the perception. So that's that's3:39 what shaped you as far as the beginning of who Nina Keegan really is. I did then something happened. When you were about 13 years old,3:51 tell us what got to live with my grandmother. And she was just this tiny little Italian grandma that that literally would be praying over4:03 people in our house, and they would get healed. And I thought she was praying in Italian. It would you know, praying in the spirit, but her she would lay hands on me, she would pray over me,4:14 her sisters would pray over me, and it was she began to basically deprogram all the things that I thought and I had heard.4:22 So the lord really used her in your life as sort of a a a life preserver.4:28 And she had had a very difficult life herself. You know, she she had 10 siblings, so the dad abandoned them, went back to Italy, and left them basically destitute. She she had4:40 a sister die in the influenza. She had an arranged marriage, and her husband was abusive and mean and an alcoholic, and he died at 39 years old. So my grandma was a fighter and4:52 she had her own business and she just was always telling me you're gonna go to college, you're gonna you're not gonna rely on anybody for anything. She was just way ahead of her time for someone who was born in 19 o 4.5:02 Right. Right. And so she began to give you a place of refuge so to speak. The Lord really used your grandmother Yeah. To to to shift gears in your life.5:14 Yeah. And so so you you she finished raising you and then you went off to college, you graduated from college, and you got married.5:26 And tell us what happened there. Well, after I got married and you know this whole time5:33 I I I would have said this to you, like, don't really know if I was saved saved. I know I had said the prayer somewhere in there, but my life didn't really change. Mhmm. And so that's why I've5:44 learned something about what happens to you when you're really saved.5:50 Well, did you still feel the fear and anxiety and all of those emotions?5:54 I still had all of that. I I got married. I had a very difficult marriage that my husband struggled with alcohol and he had that was a very6:06 very difficult time raising 2 little boys, and at 1 particular part of our marriage, I had an emergency hysterectomy, you know, he he had had a6:18 DUI, I had a a child, my youngest son was in a children's hospital and where they told me that he could die, have brain damage, or go blind, and went through all of6:30 that, and then moved from Texas from Illinois to Texas at that time. And there so take all of those things together, and then once I got to Texas, I6:42 would go through a very very difficult divorce. And so that was all going on, and I still wasn't really saved.6:50 So you've had a super easy life so far, right? Right. So so you're going through, you know, I mean seriously I think that's why you've been able to be so successful because you can truly7:02 relate to so many different people because you have been through so much.7:05 You got the test and the money. Yeah you have the test7:08 and the money. But okay, So, you know, after your divorce, something something happened.7:17 Well, I remember just basically saying if God's real now, you know, I moved to the bible belt, and all these people that I'm meeting at the schools and everywhere are like these7:28 Christian people scriptures. And they're all inviting me to church So7:32 they're this kind7:33 of stuff. Yeah. And I remember that, you know, at a certain point in my life thinking, I'm fine with God. I'm good. I already went to I I went to church 3 times a week when growing up, and you kinda have that and it's7:43 like and almost like a pride in saying like I got this. None of this worked for me either. Like, you know, I don't know what you're you're you're spilling over there, but it's, you know7:53 But you were very very hurt. You had and anxiety and angst. All the time you just felt something in your spirit and you were longing8:05 for something different, but the Lord began to shine his word into your life. And when we come back, we're gonna talk more about that.8:16 The world needs to be reached with the message of Jesus. And that is the mission of Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle. To see people's lives change with the saving power of Jesus Christ.8:28 When you donate to Grace Grace Ministries, you're also reaching orphans and the underprivileged throughout the world, as well as the United States. The Bible says that when we help the least, the forgotten, and the8:40 overlooked, we have done something for Jesus himself. Will you be a part of what God is doing to help those in need and those who are hungry to hear the real message of Jesus? Give today by logging8:51 on to naina and michelle dot com or text the word give to 3 2 5 6 0 3 3 3 5 4. You can also send in a check to 63 15 b f m 14 88 road9:03 number 1 22 Magnolia, Texas 7 7 3 5 4. Grace Grace Ministries is a 5 0 1 c 3 charitable organization. Gifts are tax deductible, so join us in the great commission9:15 today. Give now.9:18 Welcome back to Grace Grace with 9 and Michelle. I am doing an interview of our sweet Naina Keegan and we were talking about how she had just gone9:30 through a divorce and how she's feeling all this fear and anxiety and then something happened. Tell us what happened.9:39 Well, I was basically having a grumbling moment and I was complaining and I was literally like just all these things that I've been going through, and then I was so9:50 fearful of my child. He was just little. He had just gotten out of the all all these things and it's like Because he was sick. He had been sick, but I was so worried about him after that. I had so much anxiety over him.10:01 The divorce, and now it's basically as I thought I was stuck in Texas because I didn't want my kids to live on planes and be gone from me, especially when their their, father10:13 was still having his issues with drinking. But I love Texas. It's where I did get saved, and so God had a purpose and a reason, but I had flipped on the TV 1 day, and basically all these10:25 things that I was just crying out to the Lord, basically if you're real, if this is why is all this happening? I was just so miserable. And I see this man on TV that10:37 was just random, and I had never seen him before, and he he was saying, you know, all these things, like if you're this, if you have anxiety, if you have peace, and he if you need peace in your10:48 life, and he was saying all this stuff, and I just was mesmerized. I was just watching him, and then he said, you know, we have the finest church in all of Houston, Texas, and you need to come and and11:00 and check it out sometime, and I was like, that's where I'm at. I'm in Houston, Texas, and it was That's me. You're talking to me. It was Joe Lowstein. And so I was like, I had never heard, really had never11:12 heard an uplifting message from any church that I had grown up in.11:18 Right. Because God had always getting had gotten bad press to Yeah. Yeah. And so And finally, Joel was representing the yes.11:27 I tracked him down, I went to that church the very next week, I got immediately saved. I was crying at the altar. It was like my life went from black and white to living color. Like11:38 honestly, I cannot even explain, but it was a true salvation, life transforming. Not that everything was gone away, all my problems weren't gone,11:50 but it was like, oh my gosh. He's real. This is different. Something happened to11:56 me. Right.11:57 And and then very soon after that, was, you know, I and Joel was very accessible at the time and his mother, and they were praying over you and that was the small church before the12:08 mega church got so mega. And and I got baptized in the spirit there too very quickly after that.12:15 And so so once that transformation happened, did everything in your life just change? Well, the12:23 way I saw it changed. Yes. That's My outlook changed. Mhmm. The problems didn't go away but I knew that some something I had joy in crazy things like things that used to upset me before12:35 like say you get in the car and your car wouldn't start, and I remember shortly after getting saved I went to take the boys to school 1 day and we got in the car and it was a really nice car too but it was just like you12:46 get a lemon and it just wouldn't start and I thought, okay. Let's go in the house. We're gonna make pancakes. We're not going to school this morning. Like it12:54 was just were like, yes. I like saved mom. It's like, well, you12:58 know, until we figure out what what's going on with the car. It was a very different way that I was responding to things and the anxiety, I felt like so many things had changed in my life, and I13:10 had joy in the midst of the troubles just like the Bible describes. That word is so true. Yeah. It's so true. And then, I knew that, while while I was running 113:22 day, out for a run, God told me, that I needed to he wanted me to write a blog, and and, you know, this is fast forwarding some Right. But I13:33 thought that's really kind of crazy. At the time I was in little bible studies and really enjoying soaking up the word, reading the word like it like my life depended on it because it did. I was watching everything.13:45 That's where I found CBN, I started watching Pat Robertson every day, I was really I just he was like, I I just loved the truth in him. And and so 1 day I was running in the years13:57 later and the Lord told me to write a blog, and I was like, I had never even read a blog. I don't know what a blog is. I don't write anything, and it made 0 sense, but isn't that how God works because it14:09 wasn't my notion in any way shape or form. I remember So different than anything you had ever done before. Right. I remember going home and telling my son that, you know, I was, you know, wanting to14:21 write a blog. I think I was supposed to write 1. He goes, why? You don't write anything? And, you know, that's your your kids14:27 They'll you in14:28 They'll help real quick. And so but I knew that was not me. And so I had him help me start a blog address and start it, and I remember when I first got to it, I said, what do I do14:40 now? And he goes, right. You know? And and so I just kinda let the honestly, it was just like it wasn't even me, it was like the holy spirit. Mhmm. And then I pushed publish and, you know,14:52 without having anything to do with me, the Lord took that blog and it just started going all over the place and and and from then, you know, came a lot of other things in15:04 ministry that that as you know, so I don't know what you wanna talk about next, but there's so many things that happen as a result of just that blog.15:12 100 percent. And and then you you something happened, your boy's dad passed away and so you15:24 were sitting in your house and, you know, no 1 around and you had gotten a bad mammogram. And so what happened that day?15:36 Well, it it was just kind of interesting because15:39 I had gone had a bad mammogram then a couple more that there wasn't really they just found something. They didn't really know what it was. Right. But something they needed to check out. And then I had an ultrasound15:51 which was going to determine exactly what this was. And now, you know, having the boy's father recently had passed away and I'm by16:00 Of cancer.16:01 Of cancer and I am, you know, by myself, called the doctor for results. Right. And at this point I had never met Michelle, never saw Michelle, and I was a, a16:12 donor for CBN because as I said I was really I loved that ministry, and, I I guess a rep had tried to visit my house from CBN before, but I'd never met a rep, never saw16:24 1, and that's what you were doing at the time. So the morning, I called the doctor to ask for the results of the, mammogram or the ultrasound, and the nurse said to me,16:37 the results are in and the doctor's gonna have to speak to you, he'll call you later. I That's16:43 never good news. That's always bad news.16:46 I was crying out to the Lord, Lord I cannot be sick, my boys lost their parent, I was keeping this from everybody. They didn't know16:52 anything about this. Had a close knit family around you. You were in Texas alone Yeah. With your boys.16:59 Yeah. Mhmm. And we'll talk more about that when we come back. You're watching Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle.17:08 We wanna honor God because he sees everything.17:16 You were born with a plan and a purpose. He's the God of all things possible. He's the God of all17:28 miracles.17:36 The world needs to be reached with the message of Jesus. And that is the mission of Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle. To see people's lives change with the saving power of Jesus Christ.17:48 When you donate to Grace Grace Ministries, you're also reaching orphans and the underprivileged throughout the world, as well as the United States. The Bible says that when we help the least, the forgotten, and the17:59 overlooked, we have done something for Jesus himself. Himself. Will you be a part of what God is doing to help those in need and those who are hungering to hear the real message of Jesus? Give today by logging18:11 on to naina and michelle dot com or text the word give to 3 2 5 6 0 3 3 3 5 4. You can also send in a check to 63 15 b f m 14 88 road18:23 number 1 22 Magnolia, Texas 7 7 3 5 4. Grace Grace Ministries is charitable organization. Gifts are tax deductible, so join us in the great commission18:34 today. Give now.18:37 Welcome back to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. I'm just interviewing Naina, and we were talking about you were in your house, you had gone and you18:48 had bad results with the mammogram and you called the doctor and a nurse answered and said you're gonna have to wait for the doctor to call you. So you're sitting19:00 in your house and you have just lost the father of your boys to cancer and you're waiting to find out if you19:12 have cancer. So you're devastated, you have no 1 around you and your family, it's you and your boys. So what is happening in your mind at that point?19:22 I just dropped to the floor. I'm on the floor crying and I was just thinking about what's gonna happen to my kids. What what is, you know, having the way I was raised, there was not like there were gonna be19:34 grandparents around for them. There was not gonna be like, what is gonna happen? And I was a mess. It was, you know, and it's you know how it is when you have your kids. It is not about you. And19:47 my doorbell rings at that time, and I would have never ever answered my door except I was waiting for a FedEx. I was just a mess, and my door was solid,19:59 and I answer my door and there is person, this beautiful lady at my door that I've never seen before, and I remember thinking, I'm crying in this house and like the Mary20:10 Kay lady's here, like, is she, you know, showing up at my door, and and you said to me, are you Naina Keegan? And if you read my name,20:22 you're always people always call me Nina, and you said that you were Michelle Humphries from CBN, she had started working at CBN, and that, you had just started there and20:34 that you asked the Lord you20:36 I said I I, you know, Lord I don't wanna do the work of the spirit in the flesh so tell me what to do. Where do I begin? And her name just popped up20:48 and he said, go to her house right now. And I said, that is so weird. She is gonna think I am nuts like a stalker, like21:00 how strange to just show up at someone's door. And I tried to call her and nothing, no answer, and I drove 45 minutes to her house and I didn't21:12 even know what I was gonna say until I rang the doorbell. And then I when she said that to me I just grabbed her, I cried all over her. I didn't even know what had happened at that21:23 point because, you know21:25 But you said you said you're21:27 gonna be okay. Yeah. Said you're gonna be okay because that's what the Lord told me to say, but I I didn't have a clue what was happening because Naina was not talking to me, she was21:38 talking to the Lord. She kept going, you love me. Oh my God, you love me. Oh my God. And I was just thinking, okay God,21:47 that must21:48 whatever is happening right now has to be from you because there's no other way.21:53 Was a miracle. I mean just think about that exact timing, and then when I told you that I was waiting for the doctor's call Michelle said, well I'm gonna wait with you until the doctor22:05 calls, And it ended up being 4 hours that but we clicked and talked and hit it off and, you know, I was pretty closed off in a way of allowing new22:17 people. I didn't have a lot of trust in a lot of the things because so many people that were really supposed to love me in my life really let me down. I was pretty much like new people were just not gonna come in22:29 my little sphere. So God really cleared that out and we just knew we had so much in common, we were, you know, just just so so loved the Lord and we had we22:40 just talked and she was there and stayed with me, and literally the phone call came in and I had the all clear and it made no sense. It really did not make any sense because, I never had any22:52 trouble since, but I think it was an ordained I I was needing to go through that to be able to meet you Mhmm. And here we are a dozen or so years later working in ministry together, and there's so much more23:04 we're gonna tell you about all that because there's, you know, because God went from that blog that started getting going on cbn dot com and cbn Europe, and I began working for23:16 a large international ministry and as their, as the ghostwriter for a, a woman who was reaching the Muslim world. Mhmm. And everything I was writing at that time was23:28 translated into Farsi, Arabic, Turkish, and Urdu, And, you know, there's so many things that have come from just that 1 little obedience of writing that blog, and and23:39 I'm just grateful every day. I'm grateful for the steps that God has ordered for me and that I was able to meet you, and23:49 here we are. And we have had a true adventure in God and in friendship, and we've been in ministry together all these years. Yeah. Almost immediately, the Lord just put us24:01 together to do different things even around the world, and so it has been a a true adventure and you really are a gift to all of us who know you, and we're just so grateful24:13 that the Lord, you know, the bible says that God will take your feet out of the miry clay and put you on solid rock. And, you know, God her testimony is24:25 just a testimony to the faithfulness of God that he will leave the 99 and go after the 1. And I'm so thankful that he went after that 1. And24:37 Well, amen. Praise God for that.24:38 I'm so grateful. I can't imagine, you know, even all the things that have happened in my life since then having to go through any of these things without God. There's just mean, there's a lot as you know, when you24:50 work in ministry it really is no joke. A lot of warfare. But I'm grateful every day because you have somebody that you love and trust that we can stand with you. Yes. Iron25:02 sharpening friend, that's my buddy right there. And I'm grateful every day.25:07 Well, let us pray with you before we go today, and thank you for sharing your story and for being so open with everyone. And so now you know when you hear her talk about the Lord that you know she25:19 wasn't some big bible scholar. She has learned about the bible. Now she's a bible scholar but she has learned about the the the word and the faithfulness of God through real life. And so25:31 Lord we just pray right now for every person listening and watching and we ask you God that you will do what you did for Naina for them. That god that you will save them, that25:43 you will baptize them in your holy spirit even right now. And god you will turn their life around and you will give them beauty for ashes. In Jesus name.25:55 Amen. And we are so glad you found us today on whatever network you're watching us on, and you can stay in the loop with us and follow us. We are all over social media. You can subscribe to26:06 our YouTube channel and our Rumble channel. We're on all the smart TV apps, and we have a podcast that, you can find on all your favorite podcast apps, and we have 226:18 devotional books over by Naina Keegan on anywhere that books are sold. And so head on over to social media, find us, we love you guys, we wanna pray for you, God26:30 bless.26:30 Does science disprove God? Is there a26:33 war between science and faith?26:35 We don't need God to create a universe. There's no evidence for God, and it's irrational. Is there no evidence for God?26:41 Am I delusional for my beliefs? It is delusional and stupid.26:45 Am I brainwashed? Do I ignore reason? Logic. Critical thinking.27:05 DOF uses logic and reasoning.27:08 RDOF has empowered my sons to defend their faith with facts.27:12 If you want to be equipped to defend against the biggest objections to the existence of God, RDOF is place for you.27:22 Has science really ruled out God? Is faith at war with science? If you want to be equipped to respond to these claims and more, check out r d o f dot org.27:40 The evidence he presents is so powerful and overwhelming.27:43 Incredibly compelling, yet easily understandable.27:48 Rationality, we believe in reason, we believe in science, and we believe in the existence of God.27:54 I would leave every event with a mind boggling awe and assurance. 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