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From Princess World to Identity Crisis 0:02 We wanna honor God because He sees everything.0:10 You were born with a plan and a purpose. He's the god of all things possible. He's the god of all0:22 miracles.0:52 Welcome to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. I'm Michelle Humphreys. And I0:56 am Naina Keegan. Welcome to our broadcast today. Today, we have a very special guest. This lady has done it all. She has, an amazing show. She's got so much going on. Michelle, you wanna introduce?1:07 Yes. We we are we love this lady. She's so amazing. She's an award winning TV talk show host. She has coffee with Kim, and she has she's a board certified1:19 Christian counselor, so you can get your questions answered for what does the Bible look like in real life, and she also has written several1:31 books. So will you please welcome the founder of Roses and Rainbows Ministries, Kim Graebel.1:39 Hi, Kim. We're so excited to have you on with us.1:42 Well, I'm very honored to be here. Thanks so much for having me. This is great. Good to see you.1:47 So Kim, first and foremost, you know, we know that everybody's got a good testimony. We love you. We've we've, you know, seen you and have known you for quite some time at NRB and all over the place we see you. And,2:00 I know you have a powerful testimony, and so do you want to share that with us a little bit?2:05 Well, I can give you parts of it. You know, it's it's a long 1,2:08 but Yes.2:10 I I will say this, and I love what you said. Everyone has a story, and it's important, for people to share their stories. Why? Because it helps other people know that they can overcome overcome things. And 2,2:22 Revelations 12 11, by by the blood of the lamb and by the telling of our testimonies, others will overcome. And so it's so important, and that's 1 of the things I love to do is help people, be able to,2:35 tell tell their stories. But for me, I'm, like most people, you know, you you get to a point in life and you think, Wow, you know, this is not the life that I thought I was going to be living.2:48 But that doesn't mean it can't be better than you ever expected it to be. But you have to get to that point, like I did, to where you, surrender your past, your hurts, those things,3:00 that you wish that maybe had not happened to you, choices that maybe you think that, you know, you wish you hadn't made, so that God can really transform them and use them for His good and for3:12 other people's, really become a voice of hope to them. But when I was a little girl at the age of 4, living in what I call a princess world, you know, I just was adored and3:24 loved. And at 1 point, you know, I was told that I would be leaving that home. And what I didn't know was the home in which I lived was really not, the family that I thought they3:36 were. It was not my mom and my dad. My mom and dad had had my mom had had me at the at a young age, and my you know, now that's3:48 that's that's okay. You know? I mean, the world doesn't condemn those, and I'm so thankful. When a a teen or a young woman finds herself, you know, pregnant out4:00 of wedlock, I mean, that's not the first and best choice, but you're not ostracized the way you were 60 some years ago. And so my grandparents literally had to move from the4:12 city into the country, and then when they brought me back, they brought me back as their child. So up until the age that I was 4 years old, my grandparents, I thought, were my parents. And so at the age of 4,4:24 when I found out, you know, my my parents were getting married, such good people, such great people, but they took me with them. And so I was taken from 1 home to4:35 another. Now the home that I had been in was, like I said, I felt like a princess. It was wonderful. But when I went into this other home, it wasn't the same, and it was very devastating to a 4 year4:47 old. And while my parents grew you know, ended up being wonderful and Christians and very strong, they weren't then. And my my father had a lot of demons that he was running from, but the main thing4:59 was alcoholism. And so my my 2 worlds collided, and I wasn't sure. Now imagine this is 4 years old, and I I just wasn't sure what I was supposed to5:11 do, but I overheard a conversation that said, you know, if it weren't for this mistake, we wouldn't be in this mess. And I remember thinking, what mistake? What are they talking about?' And5:22 I realized I was the mistake. So that began a downward spiral in me that I was not able to stop until I hit rock bottom in my early thirties. That's a lot of years of trying to prove that5:34 you're not a mistake. It's a lot of years of trying to prove that you're worthy. It's a lot of years of of hiding who you really are for fear of of rejection and and really not understanding who you5:46 are. 1 of the beautiful things that happened were the first 4 years of my life. My grandfather, who was a devout Christian man, knew that I would not5:58 be with them forever with him forever. So what he was doing, Nina and Michelle, is he was pumping God's word in me as a 4 year old can consume. And so he6:10 would give me God's truth in a way that I could remember. And how wise. Right? Right. And he he would be saying, Kim, you have to remember. No matter where you go, there's this there's this man,6:22 there's this God, there's this Jesus that will always love you. And if I can't go with you, he will always be with you. So Kim, can I6:31 ask you this? Yes. Did you have a relationship with your biological parents while you were living with your grandparents, and were you able to see your grandparents once you moved?6:44 But also, you know, I'm I'm shocked and amazed that that 1 set of words, and that needs to be, you know, just so hammered into people watching this today, is6:55 that what you say, even to a young child, can be so devastating and have so much, you know, impact negative and positively. And so, you7:07 know, as it did for you. But, I I'm interested in if you had those relationships. Yes. The the you know, what7:15 what you said is so true. The power of life and death are in the tongue. And I think that's why I work with families on trying to set family gatherings and and good conversation because sometimes we say something and7:27 we've done damage and we don't even know it. Exactly. But to answer your questions, I did know you know, my mom lived with us. I thought she was my sister. Didn't know my my biological7:39 dad. So that, you know, my foundation was shattered. I didn't know who was who or what was what as a as a 4 year old. My I think you asked about my grandfather. Did you ask about7:50 Yeah. Were they still in your in your life once you moved out?7:54 Not for a long time because, there was some, abuse involved, and when I did go back to see my grandfather, he saw some bruises. And,8:06 because of that, what happened, because of that, I was not allowed to go back until I was, old enough to drive. So that was a long a long Oh, my8:18 goodness. But I did make my way back, and I was with him when he when he made his journey into heaven, so we stayed very, very close and I'm so thankful for that man and what he what he gave to me.8:30 And what was your was there another question that I didn't answer?8:33 Kim, we're gonna take a quick break, and when we come right back, we'll we'll pick it up at those questions.8:39 Sure.8:39 Stay right there. You're watching Grace Grace with Nina and Michelle. We will be right back.8:43 I'm excited to announce that we're having our biggest 3 in 1 sale ever with a limited edition product, a back in stock special, and a closeout deal you won't find anywhere else. So go to my pillow dot com8:55 or call that number on your screen. Use your promo code to get our My Pillow bed sheets, only 29 88. Any color, any style, any size, even Kings. Regular, 1 199:07 98, only 29 88. Once they're gone, they're gone for good. How about our my towels? They're finally back in stock, but not for long. Get a 6 piece my towel set, regular9:19 69 98 and only 39 98. And for the first time and the only time ever, get our limited edition premium my pillows. They're made with giza cotton and designer gusset.9:30 Queen, 17 98. King's only 19 98. So go to my pillow dot com or call the number on your screen. Use your promo code to get the best offers ever. Quantities are extremely limited, so9:42 order now.9:43 Welcome back to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. We are here with Kim Crabill, and what a guest. Now you have been through so much by the time you're 4 years old,9:56 and you hear this conversation that you're a mistake. You have different parents than you originally thought, and you said it sent you on a downward10:08 spiral that lasted until your thirties. Tell us what happened then.Rock Bottom and God's Turning Point 10:14 Well, you know, the amazing thing is is when you have God's word in you, it will stay with you. You can't run. It will it will eventually capture you10:26 and bless you no matter what. That's what10:28 That's a comeback void.10:29 They they do, and I'm so thankful for that. But, you know, I I had a heart for God. I accepted Christ when I was 11 years old. But, you know, here here again, I thought I thought, gosh, if I accept Jesus, this10:41 person that my grandfather told me about, then he's gonna come in, he's gonna save the day, and I don't have to deal with any of this anymore. Well, it didn't change. My circumstances didn't change. My heart changed,10:53 but I thought that God Jesus was gonna come in and make it all okay. And so that even caused the downward spiral going greater because I thought even Jesus doesn't really love me. You know? So these are the things that11:04 we have to be careful about, when expressing, you know, salvation is that, you know, everything is not going to be automatically okay. Our hearts are, and eternity is different, but many times we11:16 still have to work through our circumstances. But so I had a heart for God. I wanted to serve him. I wanted to do what was right. I was checking off all the boxes, and I remember11:28 1 event, and I was I was a women's ministry, leader in a large megachurch in the South. And I remember we had just finished up this great, huge, wonderful conference, you all, and I11:40 was watching the women walk out, and they were crying, and they felt so connected. And I remember thinking, why do I not feel connected? What is wrong with me? I never thought that I could be okay. But I walked11:52 out of that environment into a grocery store and this 1 lady walked up to me and Naina Michelle, she looked at me and she said, Kim, how are you doing?12:05 Really? Wow. And she stayed there for a response. This is what we're missing in our churches, and when I say church, all all of a sudden, really making that eye contact and12:17 waiting for an answer. I was so, I was so caught off guard by that, and all of a sudden, I felt like she was seeing me all the way back to when I was 4 years old.12:29 And I'm I said, oh, I'm good. I gave everyone those good spiritual answers, and and I went running. And I said, I have to run. I went running to my car, girls, and I will tell you as I was running to my car, I felt like12:41 I was running in reverse all the way back to when I was 4. And I was I was running forward, but I was going backwards. By the time I got to my car, I felt like everything that I had put on12:53 myself to cover up my hurt and my brokenness had been stripped off. And I jumped in my car. I did something that I had not allowed myself to do since I was 4 years old. I13:05 cried. I began crying and sobbing. Before, I always felt like if I ever started crying, I may never stop, and I just sobbed. But then I began to do something that was13:17 very familiar. I started shaking it off. You all know what this is like. Stop, Kim. You're a grown woman. You you you've got to pull it together. You're a mom. What is wrong with you? You're okay. And it13:29 was as if I felt the presence of Jesus right there with me. And I began a conversation with him. I said, I'm okay. I'm okay. And this was a turning point in my life,13:41 sitting in that car so broken, stripped with so much hurt and pain, as I said, God, I'm okay.13:53 Really, I'm okay. The audible voice of God as I know it to be sounded in my ears. Kim, you are not okay. Praise14:05 God. Mhmm. But you can be.14:08 Wow.14:08 You can be. I still get chills and tears every time I hear that because for the first time, I felt like I'd been seen since I was 4 years old. And this is what I wanted every14:20 woman, every listener to hear, is that God will be truthful with you. He will say, Maybe you're not okay today. Maybe you are in despair, but you can be. But we have to14:32 do it according to God's word. He says in Matthew 11 28, Come to me, you're burdened, you're broken, you're weary. He says, But I will give you rest. And that word rest14:43 there means reversal. Burden there means a task in waiting if you go into the Greek, and what God is saying is bring me your the reason I wasn't feeling connected is because I was going14:55 in being what I thought God needed me to be, And God needed me to be me. He needs all of us to be me. But when he said, You're not okay, but you can be, and he gave me the15:07 scripture of, Matthew 11 28, Come to me. And he also, in the same breath, gave me the scripture of Ephesians 3 20. Kim, I if you will let my power go to work in your15:19 life, you will be able to accomplish the things that you want to accomplish for me, even those things that are greater than you could ever imagine. So that was my journey, and and and from that15:31 from that moment, I started writing my journey. And that was my first book, Burns of Blessings. It came from my very own personal journey of giving my hurts and my brokenness to God so that15:43 he could hopefully use me a voice to be a voice of his hope to others who are hurting so badly in our world today and just don't know really what to do with them.15:53 That is so good. Yes. True. Because so many people, you know, think they're okay with God, they're fine with God. And a lot of times, have we really gone back? Have we really just laid16:05 it all down, all of it, surrendered all of it? Yes. And asked for him to come and heal every single aspect of our brokenness because a lot of times if you were already working in16:17 you feel like people are looking up to you and you're preaching and you're teaching, that you just have to keep that face going, that that you have to just keep maintaining, and and then we16:29 forget to to look over our own selves. And have we really are we really practicing what we preach, and have we really surrendered? So that's really, really that's that's amazing.16:40 Well, a good way for people to check their heart on this is to ask yourself, what is your deepest hurt, deepest secret, deepest trauma, and are are you okay talking about it? You don't have to you don't have to write a16:52 book about it. You don't have are you okay sharing it? And if you're not, then it's being held you're being held hostage to that hurt. So that's something that that's a quick check. And here's the here's17:04 the statistics, ladies, from from a counselor's perspective that just came out a few months ago. 80 percent of the people sitting in our churches today are hiding a17:16 hurt, a trauma, something. They're afraid to share or expose it because they're afraid that they will be judged, ostracized, or not, thought17:27 of as well as what they currently are. That's 80 percent. 80 percent. That's amazing.17:34 Kim, we are about to take a quick break. Stay tuned.17:38 Have you ever wondered if someone was monitoring you like nefarious tech companies, corrupt federal agencies, or hostile foreign countries? News flash. They are the deep state, big tech, and China are tracking your every17:50 move and using it against you. Up until now, you've been powerless to stop it. However, Quanta has cracked the code with quantum resistant encryption, and we control the entire ecosystem end to end. Visit18:02 quantasure dot com today to take back your privacy and help vanquish the enemies of free speech. When communications need to be secure, use Quanta and be sure. Enter the promo code on your screen for a discount on your18:13 subscription.Breaking Free from Hidden Hurts 18:16 Welcome back to Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle and our guest Kim. You know, what you were just saying about in church that 80 percent of people are still feeling so18:28 uncomfortable about sharing and, boy, what does that say about our churches? And, boy, we need to do better because if that's how people are feeling that they would be ostracized in18:40 church, where isn't that where we're supposed to be able to lay it all down and come to the Lord and give him all everything. You know, I mean, so so what is your advice to that? Because18:52 if we can't feel comfortable, do you think it's because they're in the wrong church? Do you think it's the church in general? What what would you say to that?19:00 I would say that it's a great deceit and plan of the enemy. Because here's the thing, if you go back to that verse, Matthew 11 28, come to me, you're weary and and and burdened, and I will give you rest. If you19:12 go back to that deep the deeper Greek meaning, burden means a task in waiting, which means purpose. So we are covering up our greatest purpose19:24 because we are so filled with shame, guilt, and regret. And shame only needs 1 thing to survive, and that's secrets. So if as long as we're feeling that straight from the pits of hell,19:36 just to put it bluntly, that that anything that's trying to cause you to not talk about the things that God has gotten you through I mean, we survived it. Right? I mean, you're sitting in church, God has gotten you19:46 through it. And he did that for a reason. He comforted us with his comfort so that we could therefore comfort others with the same comfort. But if we're not talking about it, if we're are we feeling too19:58 ashamed, then what what we really need to do is it's we come to a place to where we look at God's word and we we think, okay. We believe in Jesus as20:10 believers. Do we believe him? Do we believe him enough that we will do what he's asking us to do? So the first thing is we take that huge step from from believing in him to20:22 believing him and his promises. And then we begin to do something. There's a big turnaround. There's a big shift that needs to take place, and I teach this at my conferences. This is my heartbeat, girls.20:34 This is my ladies. This is my heartbeat, is that you get to the place to where you quit trying to fight your past and hide your past, and you20:45 turn and you start fighting for your future. You realize that there's more in your future. God has a future for you greater than you could ever imagine. And when we make that20:57 connection, then there's a passion that is ignited within us. You girls know it. You I've seen you out there. But to 80 percent of the people in the church, they don't21:09 know it and they're missing life. And and quite honestly, they're not living their purpose. They're probably living the purpose of someone who's dictating to them what they should be21:21 doing and what they shouldn't be doing. So it's very freeing. Peter tells us to live as free people. And so we but we must not wait on someone else to do it for us. We must21:33 stand up, rise up, and say, no more. I'm going to find out who I am. I'm going to jump in my Bible. I'm going to read the word, I'm going to believe the word, and I'm going to21:45 act out what God is telling me to do. It behooves us as believers to do that. Now for those of us who have reached some type of freedom, then we must be able to use our discernment21:57 to see those around us and start the same conversation with them that the woman in the grocery store started with me. To become a safe place, you don't have to go into the church and22:09 buildings. They're all and when I say church, I mean all of us who are part of the body of Christ. We must each become a safe place for people to come and talk to us in the grocery22:20 store, you know, at our conferences, in Sunday school, wherever we are, to be that place where people understand that we care for them and we want to help them find22:32 in Christ what we have found in him, which is all all the that we're not a mistake, that we truly are majestic in him. You know, I felt like a princess with my grandfather. I22:44 learned that I was felt a mistake, but then I learned through scripture, we really are majestic. We are part of the world of Christ.22:52 Well, and, also, our our the mountain needs to hear your voice. And, also, the Bible tells us that we are overcomers by the blood of the lamb, But the words of our testimony and when we you know, like you said, the23:04 devil loves the secrets. And so that's how we overcome is when we get it out there, and then that's when God can use that testimony to be a blessing to help somebody else go through those23:15 same things. So someone is is watching right now. They have past hurts and disappointments. What do they do right now?23:26 Say let let God's word begin to penetrate your heart. Amen. I mean, 3 r's. Recognize23:38 that you're not where you want to be, but understand you can get to where God wants you to go, which is greater than you could ever imagine. Recognize the hurt. Recognize what's holding you back.23:50 Recognize what's bullying you. Recognize what's trying to shame you or guilt to you or or cause regret to you. Recognize that. Write it down. Try to find someone that you can talk to. If24:02 you can't, as you're recognizing it, you can reject it. You can say, No, I am not going to feel shame anymore. No, I'm not going to reject the24:13 feelings that are coming in and then replace it with God's word. If you're feeling like you're a mistake, go to Ephesians. Go to the first 3 chapters in Ephesians and read24:25 all the all the the identity that you have in Christ. You know, use your Bible. Try to find someone to talk to. I didn't have anyone that I felt comfortable talking with when I24:37 when I began this, but God was with me and he directed me. I had to recognize I needed to change. I had to reject the lifestyle that I was living, the lies, the pretending, and I had to24:49 replace it with God's word and live out God's word. And that is that's a first easy, step for all of us to consider. God is with you. He24:59 will be25:00 with the end, and so have your time with him. And of course I do believe it's so important for us to have mentors and find someone in the church to talk to or a neighbor that we can talk25:12 to, but just make sure it's someone who knows the Bible, that can guide you, that that doesn't just say, no. No. No. That's okay. You're okay. If God says you're not okay, he wants to make you okay.25:24 And he can.25:25 And he can. You're overcomers. Yes. We are overcomers. We're out of25:29 time, Kim. Where where can, everybody find you? Real quick, we only have about 20 seconds. If you could just.25:38 It's real easy. W w w dot kim krabel dot org.25:41 That's super easy. You wanna pray us out real quick?25:44 Dear father, we thank you so much for this time. I thank you for Nina. I thank you for Michelle. I thank you for this program. For anyone who's listening, Lord, I just pray that they you they will hear you say, come to25:55 me. You're weary, and I want to give you rest. Let God do that for you today. He loved you that much. In the name of Jesus, we offer this prayer.26:07 Amen.26:07 Amen. Thank you so much. Yes. God bless you.26:11 It went by too fast. We'll have to have you back on, Kim. Anytime. Thank you, ladies. Thank you. And God bless our viewers. Thank you for watching. We'll see you next time.26:22 Why do atheists care so much about Christians anyway? Well, they tell you this. Religion is bad. It's the cause of most wars. But again, evidence shows differently. It shows26:33 that out of 1763 documented wars, only 123 were due to religion. That's between 6 and 7 percent. When you take out Islam, that only leaves 326:45 percent of all wars that could be attributed to religion.26:52 Does science disprove God? Is there a war between science and faith?26:57 We don't need God to create a universe. There's no evidence for God, and it's irrational.27:06 RDOF uses logic and reasoning.27:09 RDOF has empowered my sons to defend their faith with facts.27:13 If you wanna be equipped to defend against the biggest objections in existence of God, RDOF is the place for you.27:24 Has science really ruled out out God? Is faith at war with science? If you wanna be equipped to respond to these claims and more, check out r d o f dot org.27:42 The evidence he presents is so powerful and overwhelming.27:45 Incredibly compelling, yet easily understandable.27:48 We believe in rationality. We believe in reason. We believe in science, and we believe in the existence of God.27:55 I would leave every event with a mind boggling awe and assurance.28:01 I never believed in God. I just think it was craziness. RDOF confirmed my faith. RDOF confirmed my full belief, full faith in the world, man. The28:12 appearance of design in the universe is undeniable. To book a presentation or watch our free videos, go to rdof dot org28:24 or find us on Facebook at RDOF events.In this video 0:00 From Princess World to Identity Crisis10:14 Rock Bottom and God's Turning Point18:16 Breaking Free from Hidden Hurts28:30
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