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A Journey from Darkness to Light 0:02 We wanna honor God because He sees everything.0:10 You were born with a plan and a purpose. He's the god of all things possible. He's the god of all0:22 miracles.0:52 Welcome to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. I'm Michelle Humphreys.0:56 And I am Naina Keegan. Welcome to the broadcast today. Today, we have a very special guest. She's been on with us before, and we just love her, and we're so glad that she's back with us. Michelle, you wanna introduce?1:07 I am going to introduce someone to you that you are going to want to sit down and listen to. Melissa Hurry has dedicated the last 2 decades to helping1:19 people with addictions find freedom radically delivered by the Lord Jesus 20 years ago. She is a master's level addiction counselor through a series1:31 of divine appointments in 20 18. She was hired as executive director for the Lindell Recovery Network. Her many writing pieces have appeared in local magazines, Steve Bannon's War1:43 Room Forum, and in Charisma Media Publications. She recently released her amazing book, Blackout to Blessing, and we would like for you to1:55 welcome Melissa Hurry.1:57 Welcome, Melissa. We're so glad to have you.2:01 It's so wonderful to be with you, Nina and Michelle. You you're such a blessing to me. The the Lord connects me to the right people at the right time. And when you ladies came into my life, it was definitely needed, and2:12 you've been such a source of encouragement. Thank you2:14 for having me back on your show.2:15 Oh, we love you.2:16 That's for sure. And I have got to say, I have been bragging and bragging about this book. I cannot say enough. And, you know, it's interesting when you're reading a book by an author that you know2:28 personally, and then just to see you and how awesome you are, you're just an you know, you're just like God's army of 1 always. You're a powerhouse in the Lord. You're doing such cool things. She2:40 has a a a a show called The Hope Report, always bringing hope. And then to read, you know, your story, your backstory, and all of the things that you have gone through and to2:52 see what I love how the perfect love of Jesus, you know, is the subtitle and, you know, saved you from the highway of hell. And so we're it's just3:04 unbelievable to see what you've been through and to see now what you're doing and how you're serving the Lord and to to just to see what he has done in your life and such an awesome testimony. So so thank you for3:15 that. So tell us, how is the book going? What's happening with all of that?3:22 Well, I wanna thank you for your encouragement, just your kindness, Naina and Michelle, and just the comments you've left, the beautiful review. There's been times when I've been feeling low. Like we said, when we start3:33 doing something for the enemy or for the the Lord, the enemy steps up his pursuits, and that has been the case. And every time that I've felt a little discouraged, there's been a message from somebody like you, Naina, or3:44 these beautiful reviews I've had on Amazon. And I have to say, you know, if this story blows up, it's it's only gonna be because of him. It's it's for his glory. If he blows it up, it's it's for Jesus. But the book3:56 has been doing really well. It came out 2 months ago, and I remember being really nervous kind of about people reading all this stuff. There's there's a little element of apprehension about, hey. Even my husband is4:07 reading it right now. He doesn't know some of this stuff in the book. I've been with him for 20 years, but he never knew the addicted me. He never was part of any of those horrible experiences, the near death stuff,4:20 and the drunken nights because the lord knew there's no way I could have had a quality relationship when I was living like that, and he would not bring my husband into my life until I had surrendered the addiction. So4:31 people often ask, where's Mike? You know, why isn't Mike in the book? Well, Mike, Mike's in the prologue, and then Mike's in the end. Mike kind of bookends the book. But but it's been great. I've had many good you you4:42 know, it's interesting. People say a couple things. They either say I couldn't put it down, or they say, yeah. I mean, it's good, or or I'm taking my time with it, which leads me to think there might be something in4:53 there that that resonates with them or maybe bothers them. A friend of mine said it was like taking a whisk broom to his soul. He said it was like the holy spirit's I was like, wow, Jeff.5:04 That is5:04 a good picture. So the5:06 holy spirit wait wiping out the nooks and crannies because I think it's gonna resonate with people who've had a struggle, a stronghold, a secret sin, or maybe just struggle with their relationship with the Lord. They5:16 felt lost. They were that insecure little boy or girl who was like, does anyone love me? I feel rejected, and maybe they struggle to feel loved by God. It's for those people too, just the story of his5:28 faithfulness and how he chases us down.5:31 Well, and and you have such a a shift in thinking, from what the world says about, addiction because you do not believe it's5:42 an it's a disease. That has not been your experience because the Lord Jesus delivered you, and you it was gone. Right?5:52 Yes. Amen. Yes, Michelle.5:54 That's it.5:55 I'd love to talk about that. And I talked about my mic being the bookends of the book, and so is Mike Lindell. Mike Lindell and I wrote the foreword together. So he's the foreword and he's also the epilogue. And 1 of the6:06 things that linked us together was that neither 1 of us believed addiction was a disease because that wasn't our experience. We had both been radically delivered by the Lord after we had run wild and rebelled. And and,6:18 you know, the Lord was chasing us down, and we kept trying to go back into the go back into the sewer, and then he picked us up and cleaned us up. But but it had to be us making that decision. Like, I don't wanna live6:29 like this anymore. And I had to be crushed by my sin. I the Lord used I mean, he used my circumstances. Like, it's like, are you done yet? Are you done yet? I'd come to out of a blackout, you know, not knowing how I6:41 got home, running to the window, looking for my car, just in a panic. And I was so just sick and miserable. And I had tried all the things of the world. I was sober for 18 months 1 time you read in the book. Mhmm. I went6:53 to AA. I cleaned myself up. I was doing the thing, but I wasn't healed and I wasn't surrendered. And in the back of my mind, there was this little, oh, when things calm down again, I'll be able to drink responsibly.7:05 So I know because I had tried all the things of the world. The only thing that worked was my heart being just just being so sick of myself that I knew nothing could save me because7:17 everything had come to a dead end. It would work for a while, but then ultimately, I'd pick up and drink again. And I I I just started thinking, how is this ever gonna change? How will it ever be different? But the lord7:28 started whispering to me, you know, and it started happening after my father died of liver failure in 2002. And I felt like something supernatural happened, something shifted, and the lord stepped up his pursuits.7:40 He started really bringing heavy conviction where every time I drank, I was just I was just decimated for, like, 3 or 4 days, and I was just full of shame, just just mentally sick,7:52 physically sick, spiritually sick. And I got to about 6 more relapses after my father died. And 1 morning, I just hit my knees, and I said, lord, I surrender this to you. I wanna live for you.8:04 And everything changed in that instant. See, this is what I've got. I've got a 20 year track record of never turning back, of no relapse, of no craving, no white knuckling it to get through the day. And that8:15 is the biggest hopeful story that I have is that the Lord8:19 so much. You know, that that is lifted it. You know, because the world says you're gonna have to battle this. You're gonna have to be in meetings. You're gonna have to do all of these things for the rest of your life8:29 because this is who you are. Uh-huh. And Jesus says, no. It's not.8:33 Yeah. It's dying to flesh.8:35 You have your identity in me. And when we come back, we're gonna talk more to Melissa.8:40 I'm excited to announce that we're bringing back our best offer ever on our original My Slippers. You saved 90 dollars a pair with your promo code, and now My Slippers come in even more sizes.8:53 Smaller sizes, larger sizes, wide sizes, and all new styles and colors. Get them for your friends, your family, your neighbors, everyone you know. What makes my slippers different is my exclusive9:05 4 layer design that you're not gonna find in any other slippers. My slippers' patented layers make them ultra comfortable, extremely durable, and they help relieve stress on your feet. I'm so9:17 confident that you and everyone you know are gonna love my slippers, that I'm extending my 60 day money back guarantee until March first 20 24, making them the best Christmas gifts ever. So9:28 go to my pillow dot com or call the number on your screen now. Use your promo code to save 90 dollars. That's only 49 98 a pair. Quantities won't last long, so please order now.9:41 Welcome back. You are watching Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle, and our fabulous guest, Melissa Horae, talking about her book that you guys, you just have to pick this up. And but,9:52 Melissa, you know, when when I see you in the name of your show, The Hope Report, you know, you give people hope that, you know, think they've tried10:04 everything. And, you know, though there's a lot of wonderful things. I even know in your forward, you know, you and Mike talk about, AA and and releasing things to Jesus and things. I know he he talked about that.10:17 But, you know, I feel like, you know, apart from him, we can do nothing is what the word says. So no matter what you're trying in the world, it really isn't gonna work unless you add Jesus to it, unless it's him, unless10:28 it's that dying to self, the complete surrender. And so to to give our viewers hope, hope in in everything, because even it's not just for things you you have gone through,10:39 but people are dealing with so many issues, whether it's a prodigal child, a broken marriage, just dealing with everything that's happening in the world. How do you how do you bring hope? You10:51 know, can you can you talk to our viewers about that?10:54 Yeah. That's so good, what you just said. I just mentioned that on the Hope report today that, you know, we are the vine and he wait. I'm getting it mixed up. I am the vine and you are the branches. Jesus is the vine.11:05 You know, like you said, apart from me, you can do nothing. But we try. We get into these things11:10 of the world, and we think that, you know, a11:12 therapist or an AA meeting or something is going to to help us. And it can provide some help, but we need need to have that heart change. We need to have that heart transplant and transformation. And I just I was11:23 clinging to control. I wanted to believe that I could white knuckle my way to sobriety. I didn't wanna surrender. I wanted to keep trying to run my life. And we can find temporary hope in there. Like you said, it's11:34 coping, but it's not healing. And I finally came to the end of just doing it in my own power. I was so exhausted by that. And I started to believe those seeds that were planted from long ago began to11:46 whisper this truth to me. I mean, so it's never wasted. When you pray for someone, when you intercede on someone's behalf, you pray for that prodigal child. Prayer is 1 of the most powerful weapons we have, but,11:56 unfortunately, we go to it last so frequently. Or, you know, we'll go to all the things of the world and the things of man first before we hit our knees and seek God. Your prayers are never wasted. The word does not12:06 return void. Amen. And I've been prayed over by my grandma, by this beautiful lady in my neighborhood neighborhood named Marge. And those truths began to whisper to me, and they started calling me back to the 1 who I12:17 knew was the answer. And when I surrendered, the Lord met me with his grace. And he did lead me into some things like some, you know, recovery meetings, bible studies, and and community with people. We do need12:29 people. But like you said, Nina, it needs to be with Jesus. And that's the problem with AA. If we're saying, oh, higher power can be anything. It can be your doorknob, your dead grandma. There's no power in that. There's12:39 no power unless it's the name of Jesus, the name above all names. So we have to have surrender to Jesus. We have to believe that he can change us, that we have to believe what he says in the word is true, that if we have12:51 faith, he can restore us. He can restore us to sanity, and he is the 1 we need. We need to renounce all other idols, put him first, and then he leads us into the next step, the people we need to meet,13:03 the the doors that he's gonna open for us, but it starts with him.13:06 Amen, Melissa. Well, you have such a personal relationship with Jesus, and there are people in our audience that are saying, Melissa, how do you know Jesus is real? Like, what is your13:18 answer to that?13:20 That is a good 1, Michelle. Wow. You know, when I think about that, because I wanna be able to you know, the Bible says we need to be ready to share to have a response for the hope that we have. We need to be have it at13:31 the ready when people wanna know what Melissa, why aren't you freaking out about the looming pandemic or the news cycle or there's stuff in the water? You know, we watch the news and there's so much reason for fear and13:42 inspiring dread and all of that when we've got our eyes fixed on circumstances. But the the number 1 answer I have to that is that because the Lord has proven proven himself to me over and over and over.13:54 And he has never failed me, not once. When I look back on my life, I see his hand, I see his hedge of protection, I see him speaking to me even in the times I didn't recognize it. I look back when I was,14:06 you know, a single parent divorced at the age of 23, and the Lord whispered to me. And he said, everything's gonna be alright. You and your daughter are gonna be alright. And he just at times, I look back and I see, you14:17 know, David in the Psalms, he says, you know, I I meditate on all that I know of you. And we look back and we see his faithfulness, and it couldn't have come from anything else. Plus, you know, I look at the the facts,14:27 of course, with the truth of the Bible, the the historical proof, the archaeological findings, all of the historical evidence and all that. We can look at that, but we need to have a personal experience. And I think He14:39 wants to give us that. You know, we need to say, Lord, I need you. I want you to come to me. Reveal yourself to me. Because we can do all the talk, but we need to pray that the Holy Spirit14:50 will will move. And if we're praying for a loved 1, wavered child, spouse, whoever, and we pray that the Holy Spirit will come and begin to take control of that person, begin to move in their heart and work in their15:01 heart, and that they will have illumination. And that you know, so they have that personal encounter because you can have all the knowledge, but you need to have you know, like, have a a meeting with Jesus, and he wants15:12 to do that. He absolutely wants to meet each 1 of us that way.15:16 And for people who think, yeah, but I've gone too far. I've been, you know, I've been doing x, y, and z, or whatever it is. I mean, honestly, read your book because who are any of us? I mean, that's the15:28 thing. We're all a hot mess in the need of Jesus. And when I think of my life before I was saved, just anxiety, fear ridden, just just just hurtful, you know, just I was15:40 always so hurt by every I mean, so many things happened. So, you know, it was it was just Jesus. Like, I saw, like, the the light. Just so it was almost like the world became living color. Everything changed15:52 for me after that. But but that's the thing where where where people just don't realize that it's it's really not about you at all. It's about him. It's about you needing him16:04 as lord and savior, not about how good you are. That's what too many people get that wrong.16:10 Yeah. That's so good, Naina. When you were saying that, I was thinking of my guest from Friday. Her name is Bobbi Brown. And if you ladies remember, she was in videos in the nineties. She was in the cherry pie video. She16:21 was a Dating all the real stars. Yes. She was married to a rock star. She had all of these, like, debaucherous experiences, and she Jesus met her. I had her16:33 on Friday. She talked about how she was instantly changed. She had an encounter where it it's a long story, but the next day, she said I woke up and I had new eyes. I couldn't swear anymore. I had had this horrible tiny16:44 mouth. I had a hard heart. I only wanted men under 34. I was completely just worldly in the flesh. Now she is a mouthpiece for Jesus. She was this former, you know, 8 eighties,16:56 nineties sex kitten who never picked up a Bible in her life, never knew anything about God. And he came and chased her down, and now she is using her platform to lead others to Jesus. So I just say that to17:08 illustrate. It doesn't matter what you've done. It doesn't matter people you've been with or, you know, whatever your sins are. He wants to meet each 1 of us and wash us clean. And for us us to follow him, he wants a17:19 relationship with us. We're his beloved children. So you it doesn't matter. You know? There's no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.17:28 And and behold. You know? Can you not see it? He's doing a new thing. We are gonna talk more about that when we come right back. Stay right there. You're watching Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle.17:38 I'm excited to announce that we're having our biggest Christmas sale ever. You get our brand new 6 piece my towels for only 29 98, or rejuvenate your bed with a MyPillow17:49 mattress topper as low as 99 99. Or how about MyPillow bedsheets for as low as 24 98? There's something for everyone. Duvets, quilts, down comforters,18:01 body pillows, bolster pillows, and so much more. Well, I know my pillow products make for the perfect Christmas gifts, so I'm gonna extend my money back guarantee until March first 20 24.18:13 So go to my pillow dot com now or call the number on your screen. Use your promo code to get huge discounts on all my pillow products. For example, you get our 6 piece towels for only 2918:25 98 or get your very own My Pillow bed sheets for as low as 24 98. It's our biggest Christmas sale ever. Get all your shopping done now while quantities last.18:38 Welcome back to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. We are with our special guest, Melissa Heray, and she has written a book. And we are so excited to have her. And and, you18:50 know, Melissa, with addiction, you know, you think about how, like, people say, well, I was addicted and but yet I'm still tempted19:02 to go back. Have you had time since you quit drinking where you were tempted, had cravings, or thought about having a drink?19:10 That's a really great question, and I know it's different for everybody. You know, some people really have to really, just struggle through those first few days, few weeks, few months, and it it can be19:22 extremely difficult. It was that way for me the first time I tried to quit drinking when I had the 18 months of sobriety. I hated everything to do with I mean, I wouldn't be around alcohol. I was resentful and bitter19:33 that other people could drink. But when I was set free by the Lord on August 20 second 2003, I can honestly say that I have not had craving, struggle, or any compulsion to drink in19:45 the past over 20 years. Amen. Now that that was a miraculous gift that he removed that compulsion and the mental preoccupation and all of that. But that wasn't where the story ended because I was19:57 still, pretty broken in a lot of ways. And I I had a lot of work that needed to be done just with the problems I had with seeking approval from the world. Just all these patterns I had learned as a kid20:08 and ways to deal with my rejection problem and my wound of abandonment. I was a people pleaser. I had poor boundaries. I, you know, I had I struggled in those areas, and the Lord20:20 has worked in them for the past couple you know, to the present day. But the fact that he removed the obsession and that I no longer was just god. Mhmm. Yeah. Crippled by that, oh, I gotta get a drink20:32 or, you know, all of that was gone. And I I said you had to get20:35 to the root Yeah. Of why. So how how did you go about that?20:39 All those reasons you just mentioned, all those things, the other things that you were dealing with were were, you know, basically subject matter to cause you to drink and and numb your pain and all of these things.20:51 And that that's the thing about it. It's it's you know, God just wants it all. He doesn't wanna just give you the healing, but he's gonna work all of those other kinks out. Go back to the beginning. Get rid of it all.21:01 You know, clean it all out. So so so you are a a life transformed. You know? But Yeah. Those things are21:08 I mean, you're you're just you're right in sync with what I'm thinking right now about what was next in the healing process. I I had a therapist come on my show recently. She's a Christian therapist who links the21:20 pieces together with transformation, inner healing, and deliverance. And she's prophetic too, and she had said to me, Melissa, I think that you were delivered of a lot of things in that moment, when you were relieved21:32 of the compulsion obsession to drink. And I really believe that too. There was so much trauma, you know, that I I feel like I should be still working through that was kinda gone. But there was a lot of21:44 transformation renewal of the mind, Romans 12 2. Working out my salvation. So it looked like me to be more practical spending time with the Lord, really 1 on 1 intimate relationship with the21:56 father, just letting him love me and loving him. I mean, that love relationship of receiving his love because I had felt kind of like an orphan and and I wasn't, but I felt unloved. I felt unworthy,22:08 rejected. And the father just poured I'm just getting a chill saying this. I mean, he poured out his love on me. And those times, we would just have our times every day where we're alone and he would tell me the truth22:18 about myself. And he would say, No, you are worthy. You're my beloved daughter. I love you. You're not an orphan. I have plans for you. He started speaking all these truths over me. So that's when the healing started to22:30 come. And he would bring memories to mind and he would show me where he was and what he wanted to learn. And maybe there's somebody I needed to forgive. Maybe there's something I needed to repent for. There's an area I22:40 need to work out. And it took me the longest to really get through the fear of man. I mean, I don't know if I'll ever be completely free of that, but I had such a strong desire or drive to please people in22:52 fear of conflict. Because, you know, Naina and Michelle, I'm sure maybe both of you have had this where you're growing up in a home where you do everything to keep the peace. You don't want people to get mad. You don't23:03 want anyone to be angry or upset. So you'll do whatever necessary to keep harmony. And and you can't keep doing that when you're an adult. I mean, you can't conduct your life like that. You become a doormat. So he's23:15 he worked I've made great strides in those areas just with boldness and becoming more and more walking the path that he has pleasing only him, that I am not pleasing man or people. My mind is set23:27 on pleasing the Lord till the day I die. It's still a struggle from I just told you about 1 before we came on. You know, we're all feel a little hurt or a little like, oh, that didn't go well. But I'm looking at people23:36 as everybody has problems, struggles, burdens. They're all we're all broken in different ways and and at different parts in our journey with the Lord, or maybe we don't know the Lord. So I've had to stop personalizing23:47 things, but it's been that 1 on 1 time with the Lord that's done the most in my life for healing.23:53 You know, Melissa, we serve an audience of 1. And, really, at the end of the day, you know, the older I get, I I think, you know, I don't care what anyone thinks. I just24:01 care what God thinks24:02 of me. And if he's happy with me, and I know every day, you know, we could always do better. That's our that's what we strive for. But can you please pray for our viewers and24:13 Love to.24:13 Thank you so much.24:15 I'd love to. Thanks, ladies. Father god, we come before you in the mighty name of Jesus. Lord, I thank you for these 2 beautiful women, Nina and Michelle, this amazing ministry. Lord, I I pray for them that you would24:27 open the doors, open the floodgates, pour out your blessings upon them. Let them reach every corner of the world. This is such a powerful show, so much hope in this show. And, Lord, I pray for everybody listening.24:38 Anyone who has been struggling with a burden, whether it's a secret sin, it's a hidden area, it's something that happened to them, Lord. I pray that you would touch them now in this moment, Lord,24:50 that the Holy Spirit would move among the people and that whoever needs to hear this, that they would believe that they are your beloved child, that they are loved by you, that there is no condemnation for25:02 them, Lord. And I pray in this moment that chains would be broken in Jesus' name, that they would lay their burdens down at your feet, that they would believe that you are their loving father. And, Jesus, you would25:14 lavish your love on them. I pray for conviction to come where it is needed, that we would be grieved by how we have sinned, how we have wronged you, Lord, and that we would sincerely repent, and then we would move on,25:25 that you would show us how to forgive ourselves and others. And, Lord, I just pray for hope. I pray for hope to just be restored in people's hearts, that you are our living hope, Lord. You're our25:37 eternal hope, that you would give us kingdom eyes, that we'd see beyond this temporal world, that we would just focus on everlasting life with you, Jesus. So I pray anyone who has not done so would submit to you today,25:49 that they would accept you as their lord and savior. It says in Romans 10 9, if we confess with our mouth and believe in our heart that you are lord, that we will be saved, Jesus. Amen. Oh, lord. Do a saving work in our26:00 hearts. Take our hard hearts. Turn them to a heart of flesh. Give us the desire to serve you, and let us follow you all the days of our life. Yes. In Jesus name.26:09 Amen. Amen.26:10 We're so thankful. Thank you so much. Get the book. Blackout's a Blessing.26:15 I'm gonna book search souls.26:17 Melissa hurray dot com. Yes.26:19 You26:19 can get the book.26:20 We love you, Melissa. Thank you so much26:21 for joining us.26:22 God bless you. Bye. Bye.26:26 Bye. Does science disprove God? Is there a war between science and faith?26:31 We don't need God to create a universe. There's no evidence for26:33 God, and it's irrational.26:33 Is there no evidence for God? Is there no evidence for God? Am I delusional for my beliefs? It is delusional and stupid. Am I brainwashed? Do I ignore reason?26:43 Logic. Critical thinking. 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