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We Thought Marriage Would Be Bliss… (Valentines Day Special) | S3E18 BEYOND I DO PODCAST
February 12, 2026 · 50 min
Marriage changes you—sometimes in the sweetest ways, and sometimes in the most surprising ones. In this Valentine’s Day special, Adam and Ashlee sit down for a “Then, Now, Next” conversation: what they thought marriage would be like in year one, what’s actually been the biggest surprise along the way, and what they’re hoping their marriage looks like five to ten years from now. It’s honest, funny, and way more relatable than the picture-perfect version of love we all imagine at the beginning.They also revisit the kinds of hard conversations couples tend to avoid early on—friendships, family dynamics, intimacy, and expectations—and why healthy marriages don’t happen by accident. If you’re married, dating, engaged, or even single and preparing for the future, this episode gives you practical questions you can bring to your own table—because sometimes the best Valentine’s gift isn’t a reservation… it’s a real conversation.--Join our AFTER I DO community for Exclusive Content & community!www.afterido.app--Have a question about relationships? Ask us by clicking the link below!https://patria.church.ai/form/BeyondIdo_BEYOND I DO: MARRIAGE COURSEhttps://beyondido.thinkific.com/courses/beyond-I-do--Connect with Adam & Ashlee Mesahttps://www.instagram.com/amesa/https://www.instagram.com/ashleemesa/--Don't forget to stay connected with us: Instagram @beyond.idoTik Tok @beyond.ido--We've entered into an exciting new partnership with renowned jeweler Erin Barnett in Los Angeles. This partnership perfectly aligns with our love for relationships and jewelry. Whether you're looking for a special gift, an engagement ring, or a wedding band, Erin has you covered. And as part of the Beyond I Do community, you get exclusive discounts and the opportunity for a private showroom experience. It's time to celebrate your love with exquisite jewelry from our partner, Erin Barnett.How to get the exclusive discount?SEND HIM A DM and tell him you are part of the BEYOND I DO family or mention Adam Mesa. https://www.instagram.com/by.barnett/?hl=enhttps://bybarnett.com
Series Beyond the Letter Article · 7 min read What Two Pastors Believed About Marriage Before They Lived It Pastors Adam and Ashley Mesa answer their own Valentine's questions about what they expected from marriage, what surprised them, and what they hope for next. February 12, 2026 · 50 min · Beyond the Letter
Marriage changes you—sometimes in the sweetest ways, and sometimes in the most surprising ones. In this Valentine’s Day special, Adam and Ashlee sit down for a “Then, Now, Next” conversation: what they thought marriage would be like in year one, what’s actually been the biggest surprise along the way, and what they’re hoping their marriage looks like five to ten years from now. It’s honest, funny, and way more relatable than the picture-perfect version of love we all imagine at the beginning.They also revisit the kinds of hard conversations couples tend to avoid early on—friendships, family dynamics, intimacy, and expectations—and why healthy marriages don’t happen by accident. If you’re married, dating, engaged, or even single and preparing for the future, this episode gives you practical questions you can bring to your own table—because sometimes the best Valentine’s gift isn’t a reservation… it’s a real conversation.--Join our AFTER I DO community for Exclusive Content & community!www.afterido.app--Have a question about relationships? Ask us by clicking the link below!https://patria.church.ai/form/BeyondIdo_BEYOND I DO: MARRIAGE COURSEhttps://beyondido.thinkific.com/courses/beyond-I-do--Connect with Adam & Ashlee Mesahttps://www.instagram.com/amesa/https://www.instagram.com/ashleemesa/--Don't forget to stay connected with us: Instagram @beyond.idoTik Tok @beyond.ido--We've entered into an exciting new partnership with renowned jeweler Erin Barnett in Los Angeles. This partnership perfectly aligns with our love for relationships and jewelry. Whether you're looking for a special gift, an engagement ring, or a wedding band, Erin has you covered. And as part of the Beyond I Do community, you get exclusive discounts and the opportunity for a private showroom experience. It's time to celebrate your love with exquisite jewelry from our partner, Erin Barnett.How to get the exclusive discount?SEND HIM A DM and tell him you are part of the BEYOND I DO family or mention Adam Mesa. https://www.instagram.com/by.barnett/?hl=enhttps://bybarnett.com ...more Show the full description Show less Marriage changes you—sometimes in the sweetest ways, and sometimes in the most surprising ones. In this Valentine’s Day special, Adam and Ashlee sit down for a “Then, Now, Next” conversation: what they thought marriage would be like in year one, what’s actually been the biggest surprise along the way, and what they’re hoping their marriage looks like five to ten years from now. It’s honest, funny, and way more relatable than the picture-perfect version of love we all imagine at the beginning.They also revisit the kinds of hard conversations couples tend to avoid early on—friendships, family dynamics, intimacy, and expectations—and why healthy marriages don’t happen by accident. If you’re married, dating, engaged, or even single and preparing for the future, this episode gives you practical questions you can bring to your own table—because sometimes the best Valentine’s gift isn’t a reservation… it’s a real conversation.--Join our AFTER I DO community for Exclusive Content & community!www.afterido.app--Have a question about relationships? Ask us by clicking the link below!https://patria.church.ai/form/BeyondIdo_BEYOND I DO: MARRIAGE COURSEhttps://beyondido.thinkific.com/courses/beyond-I-do--Connect with Adam & Ashlee Mesahttps://www.instagram.com/amesa/https://www.instagram.com/ashleemesa/--Don't forget to stay connected with us: Instagram @beyond.idoTik Tok @beyond.ido--We've entered into an exciting new partnership with renowned jeweler Erin Barnett in Los Angeles. This partnership perfectly aligns with our love for relationships and jewelry. Whether you're looking for a special gift, an engagement ring, or a wedding band, Erin has you covered. And as part of the Beyond I Do community, you get exclusive discounts and the opportunity for a private showroom experience. It's time to celebrate your love with exquisite jewelry from our partner, Erin Barnett.How to get the exclusive discount?SEND HIM A DM and tell him you are part of the BEYOND I DO family or mention Adam Mesa. https://www.instagram.com/by.barnett/?hl=enhttps://bybarnett.com
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1:12 Let's clean the environment up of the gum and then just throw up stack of napkins.
1:17 I put it in the napkin. But I went to go get napkin... Or I went to get plates, and she goes, oh, oh, you definitely need napkins. I said, are you Adam Square? Do you have napkins? Do you have
1:28 napkins? I'm like
1:30 You you got...
1:30 Can you just eat nicely?
1:33 Everything should just automatically come with salt and pepper No. Napkins, and sometime sometime a sauce. You know, like a hot sauce or something like
1:42 Well, that that I agree with.
1:44 Salt and pepper for sure. Nobody... Nothing ever knows how to salt and pepper anything anymore. It's so bland.
1:51 Except you.
1:51 Well, I'm not the best at it. I just... Everything all the time. No. You order these things. You're like, do you guys have the... Like, you know, there's this thing called seasonings that have been Yeah. You know,
2:02 discovered. Yeah. It can be used. And that people places like restaurants Before
2:06 I serve you anything at the house on occasion.
2:14 Make sure make sure it's got salt and pepper. That's it. Diabetes. But we... Hey. We... We'd be using that, the good stuff.
2:24 You do.
2:24 No. I... No. We don't do the iodine salt or whatever whatever. Even if I'm at a restaurant, they're like, oh, I got... We got salt right there. I'm like, I don't wanna be that guy, but you guys got sea salt in the
2:36 back. And most of the time, they're like, yeah. I think we do. We... You know? And I'm like, yeah. Perfect. Thank you. That's what you're... Because I want... I don't need that, you know, that little table salt.
2:46 But you don't do it like that. You don't do it like You don't do it like nasty. Like, you don't... You're not mean when you ask. No. Because you're not mean.
2:55 Hard to get a mean version of me. You know? It's easy to get a mean version of me? What does that look like?
3:03 It doesn't look
3:04 here in the room believe that?
3:07 Nancy traveled with us. Yes. She can believe it.
3:10 Mean with mean with who, though? With who, though?
3:13 Oh, not people. Just me.
3:15 Well, yeah. I don't... Yeah. I can I can I could I could cut through it with you? You know? I don't know. That's me. You know, we could just say it.
3:21 Just me.
3:22 And it... And it's after you've been nagging and nagging and nagging.
3:29 Well, were gonna start, and then I cut you off. So go ahead, babe.
3:32 No. I was just gonna say welcome everybody to Beyond I Do. Heard you had a great, women's podcast.
3:37 Yeah. It's fun.
3:38 It was your last one.
3:39 It was fun. And a lot of people did have to turn down their radio with Sanaaz.
3:43 Oh, is that what people said?
3:45 No. No. No. I'm just kidding.
3:46 I'm kidding. Oh my god.
3:47 Got She did. She got high at one point. We were... She was talking about Nathan, how he always leaves a half drink soda in the fridge.
3:54 Oh my gosh.
3:54 Yeah. So I was like, yeah. Or he offers to... A half of a donut. Just eat it. Oh. Yeah. Just just eat it.
4:01 I might need a little air remote real quick. You got that?
4:04 And you're getting hot? Yeah.
4:05 I'm coming from a flu. So my body my body goes up and down in terms of getting cold and then getting hot. It'll lower the air. Well, it just turned it off. That's made it's made me a lot more
4:17 hot. Okay.
4:19 It's down now.
4:19 You're down?
4:20 It's wanted to
4:21 Alright. Yeah. That should
4:22 be good.
4:22 That should start to spread a little bit. That's great.
4:24 Yeah. That's good. That's good.
4:25 So Nantes Yeah. Sixty seven. I haven't been on the last Beyond the Letters and Beyond I dos because Ashley was like, you're working so much. You need to take, you know, some time off from the podcast for some of these
4:36 other projects we've been working on. We're building a new building for one of our campuses in Corona.
4:42 Mhmm.
4:43 Looking at something new to grow into in our campus in Alameda, then we launched a new campus in Newport. And then I obviously passed her our Rancho location. So you were like, you know, take a couple
4:55 off. And then this week, I got a crazy flu that just took me out.
5:00 So That was wild.
5:02 And I'm on the I'm on the tail end.
5:03 That was wild how it took you out. And I'll say, I give myself a pat on the back. I did pretty good. Oh. Yeah. I didn't do anything.
5:12 Yeah. I was about to say, it's...
5:14 I didn't nag. That's the only thing. I didn't... I was like, really, bro? But I was like, I... It was coming. He hasn't been sick in a minute. And so
5:22 Long time.
5:23 Long time. And so normally, it's like when all these things start compiling on top, and you're working and working and working.
5:30 Well, I felt it coming, so I literally You
5:32 said it.
5:33 In my calendar, I put... On Sunday, I put in my calendar for next week.
5:39 Yep. Do nothing.
5:40 Do nothing for two straight days. Yeah.
5:42 Okay. And the lord said
5:43 It's Monday, Tuesday. And... Well, no. Not the lord. I just... I think we we blame so much on Satan and the lord. My body said,
5:52 no. Yeah. The lord in your body said Well, no. Sit down.
5:55 Well, my body my body said, no. You good luck. You know, I'm I'm not gonna give you a week and a half. Yeah. You're tired now. I felt how tired I was, and I thought, okay. I can give myself a week and a half,
6:07 stretch, finish, a bunch of stuff we were doing. And then I'll take two full... Two days off back to back, and I'll be good. I'll rest. I'll do nothing, nap, blah blah blah. And then my body just,
6:19 like, got... I got around a cold or something like that, and then it just
6:23 Yeah. It was interesting because Matthias had the cough in the morning on Sunday, and you both had that little sniffle cough. Yeah. And then he's... His was, like, done. And then Monday, you were... Woke up worse. And
6:33 then you've had a one zero two since Monday, which is great for three days.
6:37 To do something. I had... Monday, I wasn't feeling great, but I had to do something, and then it just it
6:43 just And that probably would've made it worse.
6:45 For sure. I should've rested that day, but it was nothing. I mean, there was
6:50 Nothing you could do.
6:50 Nothing I could do. I had I had to go do it. And I wasn't like I was Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, which was, like, one zero four. Couldn't move.
6:59 Right.
6:59 All that kind of stuff like that. So we're in the tail end filming this today, and we're here. This is our Valentine's Day episode. Not day. It's the... It's... You know, drops a few days, but it's the week of
7:11 Valentine's Day. And so, obviously, for those that watch beyond I do that maybe have, you're in a marriage relationship or you're in some type of dating relationship
7:23 or you're single and you watch to, you know, just give some tips and tricks when we have kind of marriage content. I think one of your guys' mics is still on.
7:31 Yeah. Sorry. Mine. I was just gonna say before you go
7:33 on, I
7:34 was It's been on, Nancy.
7:35 Oh, I was trying to be like, is it on?
7:37 Yeah. I heard you like
7:38 Everyone's the background. Sorry. I was breathing so loud.
7:42 I'm like, does Nancy know that
7:43 she's on? My bad, guys. I was just gonna give kudos to pastor Ashley because you say he didn't do nothing, but you did really good protecting him. Like, maybe there's things that pastor Adam doesn't know, but it was
7:54 like, please do not text him directly. I should say know, like, go through me and it was just like really nice because it's like so many people... Pastor Adam's really good about giving people access to
8:05 Yeah. And he's really nice about that and sometimes I'm like, oh lord, don't give your number, please. But he's just so kind. And and, like, pastor Ashley, you really do... Did a great job and do
8:17 a great job overall, just kinda protecting his peace and
8:20 Yeah.
8:21 You know, because you know in the house and everything outside of it what goes on more than even me. And so it was just really nice to have your back and have his back and then me have your back, you know? So it was just
8:32 like, that... You did... That's awesome. Well, thank you.
8:34 So Thanks, Nance. Thanks for that. Yeah. I... The one thing that I didn't want was him to feel like you had to work from home. But then I was like, yesterday I was like, are you on the tail up? Okay. I'm gonna ask you
8:43 two questions. I was like, let me slide in there real quick.
8:46 Well, fever finally broke
8:48 Yeah.
8:48 In the evening.
8:49 But I didn't want the boys around you. I didn't want... Not that I didn't wanna be around you, but I was like, it's one of those things where... Obviously, I know we're getting into Valentine's, but this could obviously
8:58 be a topic too. But as a mom, it's one of those things where the last thing for a mom, which I think a lot would agree, is you wanna get sick.
9:08 Yeah.
9:08 A mom sick is helpless because I...
9:12 Whole house kinda is in chaos.
9:13 Is in chaos in the sense of like, although I knew I knew you'd be able to take care of it, my boys, whatever I... Go to the... And all the moms would go to the bathroom, go to the kitchen, go outside to take the trash,
9:24 go to my car. Where are going? Where are you going? Can I come? Can I come? Where are going? Yeah. So even if I were to be sick or anything, they would be on me. And I'm like, now the whole house is gonna get sick. And
9:35 so it's easier for me as a mom to be like, hey, just leave your dad alone because the last thing I need is either myself getting sick or moms can't stand when kids get sick because then now we're out. We we can't do
9:46 anything. Mhmm. Because the kids are sick. Now you're tending to him and it's like, okay, well, the husband goes to work, which is fine. But normally, the mom tends to the house and tends to the kids. So for me, that was
9:57 my main goal this week. I was like, taking my immunity shots, keeping the boys away, sanitizing everything because the last thing I need is to have now you on the up and then the rest of the house on the down. And then
10:09 and then it's like, he'll be able to work, but there's still chaos. Because you're still trying to get everyone better, trying to Yeah. Toggle with the temperatures. Your temperature was one zero one zero three, which
10:20 I'm like, in those moments too where... I mean, why just tell me how you feel, but it's like, you feel more helpless or less... Not... I wouldn't say less eager to get your temperature down, but
10:32 I'm like, I know my husband can fight it. I think we have more of a sense of, like, urgency with children to get their fever down, obviously, because their bodies are fighting it. But like when you had that one zero
10:41 three fever, was like, bro, what do I do? Mhmm. I'm like, I had no idea. Like... And I know what to do, but I'm like... You're like, I'm fine. And I'm like Yeah. I don't think you're fine. You're getting up three times
10:52 to change your clothes because you're sweating through them is Yeah. Insanity.
10:56 Yeah.
10:57 Yeah. So that was... This was this was probably the worst... Well, I will say, I didn't consider the first one when we were in Florida the worst one. I'll consider this one worse than the Florida one.
11:06 Yeah. Yeah.
11:07 Florida, you did bust it up just for the heck of it, which you probably shouldn't. But this one, you couldn't even move.
11:13 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
11:14 Yeah. Like he couldn't get... Oh, yeah. There was... He he, at one point, legitimately said, Ashley, I'm so comfortable right now, and the light is on. Mind you, the light was right here. But his arm...
11:26 But he was laying like this.
11:27 Well, because it's like... Well, here's what I don't think I don't think it's not that no one talks about. It's just no one thinks about it. It is like, you know, I have ADHD, so it's not that... Like, my ADHD doesn't
11:39 turn off. And so if you're immobile and you're like, you're so tired, you have such a headache, you have such a fever, you can't chase dopamine. You're... You try to look at your phone, but you're so tired. And so
11:50 then we just, like, you just start getting anxious in bed. Mhmm. So to get comfortable is so hard because your mind's racing, your body is anxious, Your... But your body's
12:02 like, you're not going anywhere. So we're normally... With you ADHD, you're like, okay. I can I can move around? I could bounce from this. I could go to my phone, but you can't concentrate. So your mind is still racing,
12:13 but your body just is completely Yeah. Immobile. So if I finally get comfortable, I'm like, oh, I can't I can't get out of this. I I gotta But you like, actually try to get a nap.
12:23 Your voice was so sweet. Babe,
12:26 can you turn off the light when you get a chance? I was like, oh, my baby. Yeah. So much better now.
12:34 Good.
12:36 On the tail end of it, still staying away from everyone. Yeah. I'm not near... I'm I'm... What's the COVID rule? Six feet? Six feet? Six feet for everyone except for my wife who I've been who I've been with. Boy. And
12:45 it's not COVID.
12:46 It's just a fluke. On?
12:47 Yeah. And... Yeah. So... And the last thing I'll say is the boys were really sweet this morning because they thought
12:52 Oh my gosh.
12:53 They thought... Last night, you were at our Newport campus, so then they got home. They're like, oh, mom's not gonna be here tomorrow. I'm like, no. She's gonna be here tonight. Just you guys will be asleep. Yeah. And
13:02 they must have just forgot that because you did get home and they saw you. But then this morning, one of them got up to go pee or something like that, and they went in... I guess they went in in the room and you were out
13:13 at the gym. Mhmm. So for some reason, they thought I was gonna have to get them ready, but they know I've had had the flu. Mhmm. So they came running in at, seven and hair done, teeth rubbed, which for our
13:25 boys, waking up because they love to stay up. Yeah. So waking up, getting them ready, it's like a chore. They they fight it. They don't get excited about it.
13:34 And for some reason, this was the first time I... I've ironed their clothes the night before. I was like, oh, I knew because I was gonna get right home at seven. So I was like, either seven or seven ten, and I'm like,
13:43 I'm rushing because grandma Cindy's gonna come get them. So I was like, let me have lunches packed. And so I packed it last night, had their clothes already ironed, laid out, shoes, socks, and everything. So then I come
13:53 in, and they're like, mom. And I'm like, you guys are dressed? I was like, who got you dressed? They're like, us. And then daddy said, good job. He's getting us donuts.
14:03 Yeah. Well, yeah, they come in the room, and they're like, hey. We checked. We... Mom's not here. We know you're sick, so we wanted to get ourselves stressed. And so I'm like, okay. Well, let's go brush your teeth. Let's
14:14 do your hair. And I couldn't... I didn't have my glasses on or anything. They're like, we did it. We did all of it, so you don't have to. And then they're like, now what do we do? Because normally, it's like, we're like
14:23 rushing at the house. I said, well, now what do you do is just go watch some TV. I'll order you some donuts. You got time and
14:30 I had thirty minutes to go.
14:31 And they're like, oh, great. They're like, this is cool.
14:33 Yes. Yeah. Yes.
14:35 Yeah.
14:35 And it's... We're finding a uniqueness with Matthias because we're... He's... We're styling his hair different, but he's finding his own personality to where, like, if we overly wet it and it's like... He's like, it's
14:47 not high... It's not poofy enough. So he's like, I put a little bit of gel in my hair today, mom, because I want it to get fuller, like,
14:52 bigger. Yeah. Yeah.
14:53 He's like, alright. Spending. Yeah.
14:55 Yeah. Alright. So Valentine's Day episode. Okay. Well, you know, every time... Every once in while, we do these episodes where we'll do, like, a little, like, question things where me and Ashley will
15:06 answer questions, but it's stuff you could do with your own spouse. If you're dating, some of these things may apply. Some of them may not. Some of these specifically may be in... For marriage, but you might be able to
15:18 apply them in your own context if you're dating someone. So I I, you know, created created some some stuff. Ashley doesn't know. Nope. But I created some stuff that we could engage with, and then maybe
15:30 it's stuff that you guys could practice at home. One of the things I found that people like about Beyond I do the most is it just opens up doors for conversations in their own relationship, which I'm glad me and Ashley
15:41 could, you know, be the ones that take the first step in a conversation for you guys. That doesn't always go well. You know? Okay. So here's this first one.
15:53 No. This one isn't really too crazy, but it's a good intro one. It's it's called... I saw... I did this, like, really heavy prompting in AI. So I basically wrote out a bunch of stuff, and then AI helped
16:05 me kind of put framework to it. So it's... What did you believe about marriage when we first got married? So it's called then, now, next. So what did you believe
16:17 about marriage when we first got married? What has surprised you the most about marriage today, and what do you hope marriage looks like for us in the next five to ten years?
16:28 Oh my gosh. Okay. Okay. So the first
16:30 one First one is... I'm gonna check this area because I don't feel no air breathing.
16:32 Oh, okay. You're scaring me.
16:34 It was... So
16:35 the first question was what do I... What did I think about marriage?
16:41 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
16:42 Yeah. Here.
16:42 Yeah. Let me see. Let me get this to you real quick. Okay. Right there so you can read it. Okay.
16:48 No. It's fine. What did you believe about marriage when we first got married? What did I believe about marriage when we first got married? I honestly believed when we first got married that our first year
17:00 was gonna be bliss. I thought it was gonna be the best time ever. I thought we were we were each other's best friends. I thought we knew each other ins and outs. I thought that we had it all
17:12 together. We were gonna just be in the happy bliss living at Disneyland every day, working together, and Yeah. Blissfulness. I didn't know I was gonna get fat,
17:24 insecure. I'm thinking about my past, bringing in my marriage, all that chaos. Yes. So that I thought marriage, our first year was going to be bliss. Second question
17:35 was?
17:37 What has surprised you most about marriage today?
17:40 How patient Adam is. I never realized there... The patience this guy has for me is insane. Insanity. Oh my gosh. And, like, for real.
17:52 I, like... And I didn't know I was a lot. I didn't know... I I assumed, but because you... When you date, no one calls you out on it. They
18:04 just ignore it and like, okay, whatever. Let's go have fun or do do whatever. It it immature love or immature relationships. And so being in a true loving
18:16 relationship, seeing someone love you and your flaws and awe all and just have all the patience with you, that that... Yeah. That has... That is what
18:27 surprised me about marriage is the patience that my husband has with me. Because I know I can be a lot. I know that I have some quirks and personalities that are hard to handle, that he
18:39 handles majority of them that a lot of people don't see. But... Yeah. So that would be... I would say you you and our marriage have have surpassed my expectation
18:51 of patience.
18:52 Patience. Okay. And then the next, what do you hope marriage looks like for us in the next five to ten years?Show more
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