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Redrawing Missouri’s Congressional Map again, Pennsylvania’s Dept. of Health redefines pregnant woman, Louisiana contemplates abortion drugs, and Texas identifies clear acts of radical Islamic terrorism. Additionally, Washington Watch offers updates on Iran, the UK’s sanctions on Judea and Samaria, and America’s first Republican midterm convention.
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Redrawing Missouri’s Congressional Map again, Pennsylvania’s Dept. of Health redefines pregnant woman, Louisiana contemplates abortion drugs, and Texas identifies clear acts of radical Islamic terrorism. Additionally, Washington Watch offers updates on Iran, the UK’s sanctions on Judea and Samaria, and America’s first Republican midterm convention. ...more Show the full description Show less Redrawing Missouri’s Congressional Map again, Pennsylvania’s Dept. of Health redefines pregnant woman, Louisiana contemplates abortion drugs, and Texas identifies clear acts of radical Islamic terrorism. Additionally, Washington Watch offers updates on Iran, the UK’s sanctions on Judea and Samaria, and America’s first Republican midterm convention.
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In this video 0:00 Headlines on Iran Conflict, Midterms, and Abortion Drugs8:13 Midterm Convention, Missouri Map, and Iran Developments18:43 Arguments Over Mail Order Abortion Drug Mifepristone29:34 Pennsylvania Proposal to Erase Mothers from Health Regulations38:50 Muslim Politicians, Sharia Law, and Socialism in the Democratic Party
Headlines on Iran Conflict, Midterms, and Abortion Drugs 0:00 Hello. I'm Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council and host of Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in. Every day, we offer a biblical perspective on the news as well as insightful interviews with elected0:12 leaders, newsmakers, and culture experts. We have a great program planned for you today, but 1st, get up to speed on the top headlines with Washington Stan's news brief.0:27 Welcome to the Washington Stan news brief. I'm Quindella Mater bringing you Wednesday's top stories. Iran said on Wednesday, it attacked 10 ships near the Strait of Hormuz after0:39 the US sank 5 Iranian oil tankers in the biggest declared wave of attacks since the start of the war. The attack sent the price of oil surging with the cost reaching over0:51 100 dollars a barrel for the 1st time since July. Here's what secretary of state Marco Rubio had to say.0:58 And all the American public attention focused on the latest status of, fares in Iran. Can you speak about the US strikes on the Iranian tankers and explain, what would the back and forth has been in the last1:10 24 hours.1:11 Yeah. The back and forth is pretty straightforward, and that is that Iran continues to try to hit US naval ships. And, for every time they do that or try to do that, they're gonna lose tankers. And I think you'll see
1:22 that again today.
1:23 But US Central Command said Wednesday that Iran's attacks, quote, failed, that Iran's claims are false, and that all US personnel in the country were accounted for.
1:35 Well, in other news, president Donald Trump and the Republican party will take the stage at the 1st ever National Republican Midterm Convention in Dallas, Texas starting Wednesday night.
1:47 Unlike traditional party conventions, which are held during presidential election years to nominate candidates and approve party agendas, the Dallas gathering will not conduct any formal business.
2:00 The event at the American Airlines Center in Dallas on Wednesday and Thursday comes less than 2 months before the November 3rd elections that could change control of congress. Vice
2:11 president JD Vance will give a keynote address on Thursday that might offer clues about how he would lead the GOP if he secures the 20 28 Republican presidential nomination.
2:24 Secretary of state Marco Rubio, widely seen as Vance's leading rival for the nomination, is not scheduled to speak. Republican national committee woman Amy Kramer said in an
2:35 interview after arriving in Dallas that, quote, MAGA has changed the Republican party and we're not going back. And in more news, ahead of the convention tonight, Trump
2:47 told reporters that after the midterms, gas prices will fall to under 2 dollars a gallon, insisting that current gas prices are helping keep Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
2:59 Here's what the president had to say as captured by Fox News.
3:03 Mister president, you've been saying for weeks that oil and gas prices are going to come down. Oil is now about 100 dollars a barrel. How do you explain this to Americans who are wondering which Well, I
3:13 think it's very easy to explain to America. All you have to do is say, will you let Iran have a nuclear weapon? And the answer is no. And they're doing very poorly. Their country is in shambles right now.
3:25 They are, as you probably have seen, the numbers 300 percent inflation. Their money is valueless. They're not paying their soldiers. We control the strength and lots of other things. So
3:36 for a little while, I would say this, shortly, but right after the election because they'd like to have it that way. But right after the election, oil prices are gonna be tumbling downward.
3:49 That message and those prices will be important as we head toward November. And for our last story today, a federal appeals court heard arguments on access to mail order abortion drugs.
4:01 The hearing for the Louisiana v US Food and Drug Administration case is in the US Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit and could ban the mail and pharmacy dispensing of mifepristone,
4:13 an abortion drug that has taken countless unborn lives and harmed thousands of women. Research shows that almost 11 percent of mothers who take the pill suffer serious
4:25 adverse events. The arguments come after the United States Supreme Court blocked the 5th Circuit's ban as litigation continues, allowing women to continue to access mifepristone
4:37 by mail for now. I'm Quindella Mater and that's Wednesday's news. We'll be back next time.
4:53 From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, DC, bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and
5:05 newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Casey Harper.
5:11 Oh, I think the war is gonna end immediately after the election. Okay. I think the war will end. I think the war will end. I after the election. Okay. I think the war will end immediately after the election. Because why?
5:21 Because they can't hold out any longer. They're desperate to try and affect the election so that we can get a nice, weak group of people in there and leave them alone and let them have their nuclear
5:32 weapon. All they want is a nuclear weapon. And if they had a nuclear weapon, the whole world is in deep trouble.
5:39 That was president Donald Trump earlier today speaking to reporters about the conflict with Iran before departing for the Texas for Texas for the Republican convention. Welcome to this Wednesday, September 9th
5:50 edition of Washington Watch. I'm Casey Harper, your guest host for today. Thanks for joining us. Well, coming up on today's program, tensions between the US and Iran have spiked after both sides hit oil
6:02 tankers near the Strait of Hormuz. This marks the biggest wave of attacks on shipping since the conflict began. Florida congressman Randy Fine, who's a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, will join us to
6:13 discuss the latest developments out of the Middle East. And a major legal fight over mail order abortion drugs returned to the courtroom today with federal appellate judges in Louisiana hearing arguments over access
6:25 to the drug. Constitutional attorney Christopher Mills who worked with FRC on the amicus briefs we filed in this case will join us for analysis of the arguments and to discuss the next steps. Plus,
6:37 Pennsylvania's Department of Health plans to remove the words mother and pregnant woman from state health regulations. Yes. You heard that right. We'll discuss that and other concerns with the department's
6:49 proposal when we're joined by Randall Winger, chief counsel of the Independence Law Center. We'll also look at the growing trend of Muslim American politicians rising within the Democratic Party.
7:01 We'll discuss their influence within the party and more with Robert Spencer, director of Jihad Watch. All that and more straight ahead.
7:13 Well, today, we'll start with some election news. Conflicting court rulings have left Missouri's congressional map up in the air. Mary, walk us through the latest news here.
7:24 Casey, the US Supreme Court decided yesterday not to reinstate a Republican drawn congressional map, which keeps the map from being used in the November 3rd midterm elections. Justice Brett Kavanaugh denied the request.
7:35 That left intact a unanimous ruling from Missouri Supreme Court to block the map from being used until voters weigh in on it through a statewide referendum. The Republican backed map would have broken up the voting
7:47 district of Democratic congressman Emmanuel Cleaver, giving Republicans an advantage to maintain a slim majority in the US House of Representatives. Not long after justice Kavanaugh's decision, Saint Louis
7:59 Missouri based judge Stephen Clark issued a temporary order requiring the state to use Republican drawn map for the November midterm elections. Missouri Republican attorney general, Catherine Hannaway, said in a
8:10 post on X that Missouri is prepared to follow and comply with chief judge Clark's order. Opponents of the map vow to fight the federal ruling in court. Casey?
Midterm Convention, Missouri Map, and Iran Developments
8:21 Thanks, Mary. Let's shift now to the campaign trail increasing attention there. Republicans have gathered today in Dallas for day 1 of a 2 day Republican convention. Mary, what can we expect from this convention?
8:32 Well, Casey, this is the 1st time that Republicans have ever held an event of this kind on a national scale right before the midterm elections, which will, of course, determine whether Republicans or Democrats will
8:43 control congress. For the Republicans, this will be a chance to rally support ahead of the midterm elections. President Trump will be speaking at that event tonight, and vice president JD Vance will be speaking tomorrow
8:54 night among a list of other speakers on both days. Now throughout the convention, Republicans are expected to focus on affordability, border security, and safety among other issues while highlighting
9:06 Democrats' far left at even socialist agendas. Here's a clip from Joe Gruters, Republican National Committee chairman, making opening remarks at the convention.
9:15 The Democrats take even 1 chamber of Congress, the agenda stops. We're sure as all not gonna let that happen. Not on our watch,
9:27 not after everything we've accomplished, not when America's best days are still ahead.
9:32 In order to take control of the US Senate, Democrats would need to gain 4 seats. Democrats would need to net 3 seats to take the house. KC.
9:41 Alright. Well, let's shift to some other domestic news. A major legal battle over abortion drugs is back in the spotlight as federal appellate judges in Louisiana heard arguments regarding access to the abortion
9:53 drug mifepristone. Mary, break it down for us.
9:56 Earlier today, a federal appeals court in New Orleans heard oral arguments in a case that could determine whether abortion drugs can continue to be ordered by mail. Louisiana is challenging a policy by the Biden
10:07 administration that removed the requirement of an in person visit with a doctor for obtaining the abortion drug mifepristone. This unlawful policy has allowed abortion drugs to be ordered online without any medical
10:19 oversight. It has led to major health risks for mothers such, as Louisiana as Louisiana solicitor general argued today in court.
10:28 Look at doctor Perez's declaration because she doesn't just give you high level data. She gives you real life reports of patients she's treating, including patients like 1 that was at 19 weeks gestation when she took
10:39 mifepristone, which is 9 weeks past FDA's suggested limit of 10 weeks. And as a result, these people are having to go to the emergency room and have suction d and c's to complete the abortion because mifepristone can't
10:51 do that. That's real life on the ground. That is the human element of this case, and that is why we have so vehemently defended our sovereign prerogative to regulate abortion free from federal interference.
11:02 The Biden era policy has also opened the door to abusers and other bad actors ordering the drugs and coercing mothers or secretly giving the drug to them. The court's eventual decision will determine
11:14 whether Louisiana's challenge to the 20 23 mail order policy continues, whether it's thrown out or if it remains paused pending the FDA's further review of the drug. Casey?
11:26 Hopefully, they do the right thing. Well, thanks, Mary. Appreciate the report. Now let's turn back to the situation with Iran and the big updates there. Joining us now to discuss this and more is congressman Randy Fine.
11:38 He's a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and the Friends of Judea and Samaria Caucus. He represents Florida's 6th congressional district. Congressman, welcome back to Washington, Washington.
11:48 Voters. Thanks for having me.
11:50 Sure. So you're you're joining us from the site of the Republican midterm convention. Sir. I do wanna ask you how that's going. Before I do, I wanna get your assessment of how the conflict with Iran has been unfolding.
12:02 The US has been targeting Iranian oil tankers in response to ongoing attacks on American naval ships. Your thoughts on what we're seeing here.
12:11 Look. I think it's going well. Like any conflict, there'll be there'll be ups and downs. But I think the fact of the matter is president Trump has destroyed the Iranian military. He is destroying the Iranian economy. And
12:22 ultimately, that Iranian Muslim terror regime will collapse. And I think we'll see a new Iran rise from the roots in Persia that will be a great friend to America and will transform the world.
12:34 I just think we need to give the president a little bit more time, and I wish Democrats would support him in that as opposed to rooting for Iran to win.
12:42 Yeah. Yeah. Timing is everything on this 1. But in other Middle East news, I'm sure you've I know you're familiar with this. The British government kind of amazingly announced their decision yesterday to ban imports of
12:54 goods from Judea and Samaria. The British prime minister, Andy Burnham, said, quote, Britain has to stand for fairness against injustice where people are being bullied out of their homes. Your thoughts on what the UK is
13:05 doing and what these other 11 nations yesterday said that they intend to do.
13:10 In China, Muslims are held in concentration camps. Yet you don't see the United Kingdom taking any action on that. This is not about so called Palestinian. This
13:22 is about a deep seated hatred of the Jewish people and a desire to appeal to the Muslim voters that they allowed into their country that do not share British values. So yesterday, I
13:34 made an announcement. In 20 18, as a freshman member of the Florida House, I passed a bill that said if you boycott Israel, the state of Florida will boycott you. That bill almost brought
13:45 Airbnb to bankruptcy when they tried something similar in 20 19. That bill will be brought to bear on the British economy as well. So I hope it is worth putting their entire nation at risk in
13:57 order to feed this fetish for Muslim terror in Judea and Samaria.
14:02 You know, we're gonna talk about this a little bit more in the program. We touched on it yesterday, but what I hear you saying is that mass, immigration from Muslim countries is influencing the domestic politics in
14:14 these Western European countries. Is that right? And you think we could see that in the
14:18 US? British diplomats are telling people off the record, they don't intend to do any of this. This is just for political posturing. Once you allow Muslims to become a meaningful percentage of
14:30 your electorate, Muslims that aren't from your country, that don't share your values, that may have come in illegal ways and just came in on boats and just stormed the beaches, they aren't coming to be part of your
14:41 country. They're coming to take over your country. And what is clear is this is an effort to politically appeal to those voters who are obsessed with Israel, and they don't seek a 2 state solution. They seek a 1 state
14:53 solution, the elimination of the state of Israel.
14:57 Wow. Well, I do wanna turn to the Republican midterm convention. We can hear a little bit of it in the background. It's just now getting underway. What can you tell us about the convention and your hopes for it as you're
15:07 there right now?
15:08 Well, if you can hear the excitement as as 1 of my leaders in congress, Steve Scalise of Louisiana is firing up the crowd. Republicans are so excited to tell people what we've accomplished the
15:20 past 2 years and to make people understand the threats to American prosperity of Democrats takeover. Remember, this isn't about conservative versus liberal. This is about common sense versus
15:31 communism. And we're gonna make that pitch over and over and over again for the next 2 days so people understand that if you vote for the Democrats, you're voting for the destruction of America.
15:43 So when you when we talk about that that resume that Republicans have, you're talking about, you know, promoting, what is that that resume of accomplishments, and how does it compare to really the Biden era that we just,
15:54 escaped from?
15:55 Well, the Biden era had historic inflation. It had an open border that allowed 10000000 people to just stream across and and and come in. A president that couldn't even walk off the stage without
16:07 help, and we were seen as a laughing stock around the world. America is booming right now. Businesses coming to America. Factories being built in America. We've sealed the border. We're throwing out illegal immigrants.
16:19 The 1st net migration out of the country in decades, Crime going down. Fentanyl deaths going down. We have an extraordinary story to tell. Does that mean there's not still work to do? There absolutely is. But
16:30 Democrats will seek to destroy all of these gains and bring us back to the insanity. And the fact matter is the Democrats are crazier now than they were even 2 years ago. So the threat to America of
16:42 Democrats taking control is extreme, and we're gonna continue to tell that story over the next 2 days.
16:48 But but, congressman, I was reliably informed that it was simply impossible just a few years ago to shut down the border. I guess we've done it. I do are we just taking that for granted now?
16:57 2 years ago
16:58 Well, we did shut it down. You were also told that illegals didn't vote in our elections. It's amazing how many things the left told us never happened do happen. It's part of the gaslighting that the left does, which is
17:10 why a convention like this is so important because it's our chance to talk to the American people directly. And as Steve Scalise is showing, very enthusiastically.
17:20 Alright. So so looking ahead, congress will be returning to Washington next week. What do you expect is gonna be at the top of the agenda? Cheers.
17:28 Well, we're only there for 1 more week. And so I they haven't told us next week what we're gonna do yet, but I think it'll probably be just trying to get some key bills over the finish line and then getting back to our
17:38 districts for 7 weeks to make sure we keep that majority. Because right now, to some degree, the most important work can be done at home. The senate's never gonna pass anything that needs 60 votes. The Democrats are
17:50 interested in working with us. So if it can't get if it can't be reconciliation, it's really just posturing. We need to get home. We need to campaign. We need to increase our majority in the house. We need to increase
18:00 our majority in the senate.
18:01 You mentioned the senate about 30 seconds left. How important is it for Republicans in your agenda to not have just the house but also
18:08 the senate?
18:09 We have to have both. I mean, it's hard enough to get anything passed right now. We need to have more senators. We need to try to get to 60 so that we can pass bills. The senate has this crazy rule that you
18:21 don't even need a majority to to to pass a law. You've gotta have 60 votes. So we've gotta get more senators passed so we can so we've gotta get more senators elected so we can get that done.
18:32 Alright. Well, thank you for joining us today, Florida congressman Randy Fine. Enjoy the convention. Alright, folks. Coming up, we'll discuss today's oral arguments in Louisiana's abortion drug case
Arguments Over Mail Order Abortion Drug Mifepristone
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22:30 Louisiana's abortion drug case against the US Food and Drug Administration, the FDA. Now Louisiana is asking the court to require the FDA to restore the in person dispensing requirement for the
22:41 abortion drug mifepristone. You have to go to a doctor to get the drug. That was removed by the previous administration. As a result of the Biden era policy, out of state abortionists have been mailing
22:53 mifepristone to residents of states, even states with pro life laws. Louisiana alone, there are reportedly about 1000 abortions taking place a month due to mifepristone being
23:05 mailed into the state. So how did today's arguments go? Well, joining us now to fill us in is constitutional lawyer, Christopher Mills, who worked with FRC on the amicus brief we filed in support of Louisiana.
23:17 He's the founder of Sparrow Law LLC, and he was a former law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Chris, welcome back to Washington Watch.
23:26 Thanks. Good to be here.
23:27 It's good to have you. I wanna get you're the expert here. What were your takeaways and your reaction to this morning's oral arguments?
23:34 Sure. So what was happening this morning was, an argument before the 5th circuit court of appeals in, New Orleans. That's a court that's 1 level below the Supreme Court.
23:46 Initially, the district court in Louisiana had said, hey. I agree with Louisiana that the FDA rushed this decision and and didn't, you know, cross all their t's and
23:58 dot all their i's when under the Biden administration, they relaxed the in person requirement. That what was but but the district court said I'm not gonna do something about it because the FDA says they are re
24:10 reviewing that decision. So that was what was up at the 5th Circuit. The 5th Circuit's consideration was shaded by the fact that the that the 5th Circuit earlier had said, actually, because
24:22 the FDA didn't do what it was supposed to, we're gonna go ahead and enjoin that 20 23 rule. And the Supreme Court had stayed that action. So a lot of the argument today at the 5th circuit focused on
24:34 what the Fisher Circuit should do with the fact that the Supreme Court stated. And it was a rocky morning, I would say, for for the state in terms of the questions that Louisiana was getting asked by the
24:45 judges. 2 of the judges were appointed by president Obama, 1 by, president George w Bush, and, overwhelmingly, they focused on the technical issue of whether the
24:57 state had standing rather than on whether the FDA was right to remove the in person dispensing requirement.
25:05 So so that's the technical side and and, very well explained. But what is the kind of big picture argument here? FRC has filed amicus briefs in support of Louisiana's legal fight. You had a a huge hand in that. Can you
25:17 share what we argued in those briefs?
25:21 Sure. So I I would say, we we had 2 main points. The 1st is, on this sort of question about standing, as Louisiana said, it's facing an extra, you know, thousand
25:33 abortions every month because of the abortion pill. You know, that was the whole point of the Biden administration's rollback of the in person dispensing requirement. That's the whole reason the drug manufacturers
25:45 were there today arguing in court because they are benefited when their product gets to go out through the mail, in the thousands in the hundreds of thousands, really, across the nation for
25:57 women to be put at risk by having these abortions via pill happen at home without medical supervision. So we said our 1st argument was, hey. The the state has to have a standing
26:09 to, to sue the FDA here because they're on the hook for all these medical expenses that happen through Medicaid and other programs when these women who are taking dangerous drugs show up
26:21 in the emergency room or in hospitals because they've been harmed by, this pill arriving through the mail. So that was our 1st point. Our 2nd point is that this is dangerous, and and the fact that that
26:33 women are are, you know, having these these negative repercussions shows that the pill is dangerous. It shouldn't be dispensed without an in person requirement. It opens the door when you when you can mail it
26:44 to in, partner violence and partner coercion because you don't even have to really necessarily be the woman who would be using the pill to be able to get it online. So there have been horrendous
26:56 stories of boyfriends or others, you know, getting the pill and using it to, to induce an abortion against what the woman would have desired. And all of that is a function
27:08 of the removal of this in person dispensing requirement. And so that's that's what's really at issue, and it was disappointing at some level that the 5th circuit just was not addressing that, in the argument today.
27:21 Yeah. I mean, it's not even really trying to ban abortion. This is not some kind of, end all abortion in Louisiana. This is saying, hey. If you want abortion pill, you have to see a doctor, and that's what's
27:32 getting so much, pushback. It raises really questions about the motives of those who don't want women to see doctors and get, you know, even oversight as they do something because we have evidence that, of course, it's
27:43 not only fatal to the baby when the mother takes it, but it can also be, very harmful for the mother. I wanna play a clip from this morning, get your reaction to it. This is from the solicitor general. Take a listen.
27:55 Look at doctor Paris's declaration because she doesn't just give you high level data. She gives you real life reports of patients she's treating, including patients like 1 that was at 19 weeks gestation when she took
28:06 mifepristone, which is 9 weeks past FDA's suggested limit of 10 weeks. And as a result, these people are having to go to the emergency room and have suction d and c's to complete the abortion because mifepristone can't
28:18 do that. That's real life on the ground. That is the human element of this case, and that is why we have so vehemently defended our sovereign prerogative to regulate abortion free from federal interference.
28:28 So you mentioned that this morning was focused on the technical side, but what I heard there was the human element. How do you think those 2 weighed against each other today?
28:37 Yeah. I think the solicitor general did a great job trying to bring it back and point out the real world consequences this has. You know, the in person, dispensing requirement, removing it means that there's no
28:49 way for somebody on the Internet to tell how far along in pregnancy the woman is. There's no way to diagnose an ectopic pregnancy. So, you know, I I think the solicitor general, because of the 5th circuit's focus, was
28:59 using that to say, hey. We know there are women being harmed from that, and because we, the state, are are paying for medical treatment in a lot of cases, we have an injury there. But, again, the the 5th circuit seemed
29:11 more concerned about the technical issues of standing and what it meant for the Supreme Court to have stayed its action here. And so I I, you know, unfortunately, would not be optimistic that there's gonna be any
29:23 change in the near term at least coming from the courts.
29:27 Alright. Well, thanks for that, analysis, and thanks for joining us today. Constitutional lawyer, Christopher Mills.Show more
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