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In this video 0:00 Transparency and Accountability in Government2:07 Immigration and Self-Deportation Initiatives3:39 Gender Transition Policies and Legal Risks13:44 Middle East Tensions and International Relations29:50 Cultural and Political Challenges in AmericaComments No comments yet. Start the conversation.
Transparency and Accountability in Government 0:06 Welcome to the Washington Watch News Desk. I'm Casey Harper bringing you today's top stories. The long awaited Martin Luther King Junior files are now being released. Earlier this year, President Donald0:18 Trump signed an executive order to release the documents. Now, 230000 pages related to the assassination of the civil rights leader have been made public. There have always0:29 been questions about whether there was a conspiracy to kill King that involved the federal government, and these documents may shed more light on that debate. The administration says this is another push for0:40 transparency. They also released the JFK files in March. But critics say it's a distraction from the information that the administration so far has not released, namely the full Jeffrey Epstein files.0:53 For his part, Trump has publicly told attorney general Pam Bondi to release any Epstein files she feels are credible. And in a surprising development today, a house oversight subcommittee voted1:05 to subpoena Ghislaine Maxwell, who's Epstein's longtime associate now in prison, to testify before congress. That would be explosive. The chair of that subcommittee, Tim Burchat, said it's time for1:16 answers.1:17 We just gotta get to the bottom of this thing, folks. It's just, it's 4 years, and, you know, we can't we don't need to tolerate this stuff anymore. And I'm getting you know, I get the blowback
1:29 about folks up here are gonna be mad at me, but ultimately, with all sincerity excuse me. I'm answering my creator on this issue and what we
1:41 did about the least amongst us. And we gotta send a message to these dirt bags that do this. This is not acceptable behavior. And also a message to the victims that we believe you
1:52 and that we need to come out of the shadows, and we need to we need to bust these people to do this.
1:56 We need to bust these people to do
1:58 this. Reportedly, the DOJ reached out to Maxwell as well. Whether the testimony actually happens or the files are released remains to be seen. And on other news, as Homeland
Immigration and Self-Deportation Initiatives
2:10 Security's nationwide deportation effort is heating up, some illegal immigrants are volunteering to deport themselves. DHS secretary, Kristi Noem, has encouraged to self deportations through ads like this
2:22 1.
2:23 If you leave now, you may have an opportunity to return and enjoy our freedom and live the American dream. But understand this, under president Trump, America's borders are closed to lawbreakers.
2:35 Follow the law, and you'll find opportunity. Break it, and you'll find consequences. The choice is yours.
2:43 And it's working. The Biden administration used the infamous CBP app to allow illegal immigrants to check into the country. Now the Trump administration is using that same app to let them check out of the
2:55 country. Reportedly, tens of thousands have used the app to do so so far. Sometimes they get a free 1 way ticket or a thousand dollar bonus for leaving. On the other hand, if they
3:07 don't leave voluntarily, they can face fines up to a thousand dollars a day for staying in the country illegally. The self deportations come as the administration turns up the pressure. They're
3:19 auditing businesses that hire illegal immigrants, cracking down on that illegal practice. Of course, these businesses do often underpay or take advantage of the migrants. DHS is also tracking down criminal migrants
3:31 and deporting them. Experts suggest many more migrants have simply left the US unannounced. But tracking down that number is pretty difficult. And in another story
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3:42 down south, very south, Puerto Rico has taken a stand on the transgender issue. The US territory off the coast of Florida enacted a new law that prevents anyone under 21
3:54 from gender transition surgeries and drugs. Those procedures can have irreversible consequences, including infertility. And science shows that kids often grow up to
4:06 regret their decision. Now Puerto Rico's law will make them wait until they're adults before they undergo these procedures. And those are today's stories. I'm Casey
4:18 Harper. You can dive deeper with the Washington Stand at washington stand dot com. Better yet, download the Stand Firm mobile app where you can watch this and other news. We have a lot of great
4:29 content on there for you to check out. Up next is Washington Watch with Tony Perkins. And, of course, we will be back with you tomorrow with more stories that matter.
4:53 From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, DC, bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers,
5:05 all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
5:11 We all understand America first agenda and the American people are best served by putting an end to the Democrat sideshows, and that's what we're doing by not allowing the rules committee to continue with that nonsense
5:21 this week.
5:22 That was house speaker Mike Johnson earlier today announcing the house would adjourn until September as Republicans and Democrats continue to spar over the release of the Epstein files. Welcome to this July 20 second
5:33 edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Here's what's coming up. Iran has once again defying global pressure. Despite the threat of sanctions, Tehran says it will not it
5:45 will not abandon its pursuit of enriched uranium, and it's vowing to retaliate if the UN Security Council reinstates snapback sanctions under the JCPOA.
5:57 Our enrichment is so dear to us. We are ready to engage into negotiation to make sure that our enrichment is only for peaceful purposes. We are not ready to give up
6:09 something which is now a question of a matter of dignity for the Iranian people, a matter of, national pride.
6:16 That was Iran's foreign minister. We'll talk about it. The National Children's Hospital announced last week that it will no longer provide gender transition treatment, citing escalating legal and
6:28 regulatory risk. Well, those risks may soon increase. Florida Congressman Greg Stubbe and Missouri senator Josh Hawley have introduced a bill creating a private right of action against providers of chemical and surgical
6:39 mutilation of minors. Congressman Greg Stubbe joins us with the details in just a moment. And this morning, FRC hosted governor Yossi DeGan for a breakfast briefing with dozens of members of congress
6:51 highlighting the case for Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. Governor DeGan will join me in studio. And finally, first, it was Big Bird. Now we're told public safety is at risk
7:03 because of congressional cuts to public broadcasting. That's the claim from NPR CEO, Catherine Moore. The Washington stand, Suzanne Bauty and Casey Harper join me to set the record straight.
7:15 All of this and more coming up on this edition of Washington Watch. Last night, the House Rules Committee came to a complete standstill as House Republican leaders work to
7:27 contained rank and file Republicans and their Democratic allies, all clamoring for a floor vote to compel the publication of materials related to the late and infamous Jeffrey Epstein. Well, as a
7:38 result, house leadership announced the house would adjourn early for the August break. But will the Epstein issue be waiting for them in September? Joining me now to talk about this and much
7:50 more. Florida congressman Greg Stubbe, who is a member of the House Intel Committee. Congressman Stubbe, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
7:59 Yeah. Good to see you, Tony.
8:00 So, surprised that, the house is going to adjourn early and head head home, over the Epstein files?
8:09 I mean, I'm not surprised because the calendar this this congress has been, so up in turmoil. Last week, we were supposed to be gone on Thursday. We stayed through the night. We were voting at 1 o'clock in the morning,
8:19 to get that pat that appropriations bill out last week. All the while, this Epstein stuff has been around the peripheral of all these issues. I support making transparency and
8:31 opening this up, up, but you have to be mindful of victims. There's a lot of laws protecting the victims. Even if those victims are now adults, there's still protection for those victims, and you have victims' rights. So
8:43 any release would have to take into consideration, not alluding to any of the victims of any of this case unless they want to willfully come forward, but you obviously haven't seen that. So there's gonna be a lot of have
8:54 to care that's gonna have to be given for the release of these files, but I support it. I don't understand why I certainly don't wanna leave and give up, CRAs that we could abolish Biden era rules
9:05 from his agency. I think that's important work for the American people, and it's sad to see us get sidetracked on something like this.
9:12 So let let's go back. I mean, I I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention to this, but I mean, it it has become a probably more of an issue because of the transparency issue, and there was promises it was
9:24 going to be released. Attorney General Pam Bondi originally said she had a list of names on her desk Right. And then all of a sudden it doesn't have a list. Can Congress I mean, I I I know
9:35 that we often see redacted documents released all the time. Is it not possible to to release documentation with victims, redacted? And and we're
9:47 only looking at the other facts in this case?
9:51 Yeah. You can, but whatever we do in the house obviously has to go to the senate as well. And there's other I I mean, I don't know if there's pieces of this that are classified. I don't I don't know what the the
10:00 situation as it relates to that. If the bill comes to the floor to release Epstein files, I would support that. I would vote for that. And then let the attorney general make the decision on what can legally be released
10:11 and what cannot be legally released. It seems as though the admin, like, she's filed a motion to unseal court records. Part of that is the challenge because you have records that have been sealed by courts. So if she has
10:22 to go through that process and unseal some of these records. The challenge at the house has been Democrats are filing motions and rules, amendments on previous question type bills that would then open up
10:34 these rules and open up these bills for Democrat amendment on other issues. Issues. We saw that last week where they could have amended anything they wanted on all of these different things that we are trying to get
10:44 done. And, obviously, they have a a nefarious type of intent to do that. And we have Republicans that obviously support opening the Epstein files that are voting with them on these things, so it makes
10:56 votes Right. Very challenging.
10:57 Right. So put the Democrats aside for a moment because they're they're seizing on a political moment. A hundred percent. Because if they wanted to, they had 4 years when Joe Biden had control of everything, and they
11:09 could have released these documents had they wanted to. But there was they would they wouldn't release any documents. I mean, we we saw the Republicans trying to get, information about, you know, the laptop, Hunter
11:20 Biden's laptop, all this other information that they were sitting on. But I wanna ask you this question. Put the Democrats aside. What are you hearing from your constituents? Are they are they concerned about
11:29 transparency? Do they wanna see what was in there? Do they think this information should be released?
11:34 Yeah. And from conservative circles, I think you're absolutely seeing that, which is why if the Massey discharge comes to the floor, I would vote yes. If there's a resolution that comes to the floor to release these
11:44 files, I would vote yes. I think the American people deserve transparency, and I think that's what we in congress should do. So I don't understand that why we're not going to a vote on this because just delaying
11:56 it until September, I don't think, like you said, I don't think this issue is going away. I think we're gonna be dealing with this after the August recess. Maybe there will be more information released by DOJ at that
12:07 point. I assume so. We've also heard today that they're going to interview miss Maxwell, so there might be some information that they release from that. So all of these things will happen by the time we
12:19 get back, but that's not gonna change the fact that mister Massey's discharge petition will have cured, and he can force a vote on that by just calling it up.
12:28 So let me go back. You're right. Miss Maxwell was, there's been word now that she will be brought to testify. Will that be open? Will that be open to the public, or is that gonna be behind closed doors?
12:40 So there's 2 things going on. You got DOJ that is gonna interview her for possible possible criminal issues, as a witness, like she's a witness to possible criminal activity. Then you have the oversight committee in in
12:51 the house that has voted to subpoena her. That would that could take place behind closed doors in the form of a deposition or that could take place in an open forum. It would turn
13:03 into a complete and utter circus if you had her in an open committee room. But certainly, if you brought her in in a deposition, which we've done countless times with different individuals, she's under oath. You can
13:15 ask her questions on both but both sides have the opportunity to ask her those questions. So you've got 2 different things going on with her. 1 is on the DOJ side, and 1 is the congressional side. I don't know chair
13:26 Comer's plans in the next month, maybe bringing her in as soon as possible now that the subpoena has been passed through the committee. I'm not sure what his plans are as far as timeline, but you got both DOJ now willing
13:37 to talk to her, and now you've got a subpoena from the oversight committee coming.
13:41 Well, I mean, given where the public is at on this, I think, deposition behind closed doors in congress would not resolve the angst that's out there in demanding for
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13:52 transparency.
13:54 Yeah. But you could release the depo, which is just typical. You would release the deposition after after the statements. The the challenge with doing the open every 5 minute type hearing is that
14:06 every member only has 5 minutes.
14:08 Right. It's it's Each lawyer
14:09 I'm putting my litigation hat on in a deposition, I can go down a line of questioning for 2 hours if I want to. I can question her for 8 hours if I want to Instead of being in a committee type environment where each
14:20 member only gets 5 minutes in a shortened period of time, it's much more difficult to really dig in to certain subject matters when you have that 5 minute every member type thing. People are just trying to get on TV and
14:32 get a clip.
14:32 Right.
14:34 Instead of sitting in a deposition with lawyers and walking through deep questionings on specific Well,
14:39 I I think if if that is the route and and you're absolutely right. I mean, I think the, the open hearings become more of a circus. It's, you know, it's it's it's kind of a, you know, reality TV, gone bad.
14:50 But the the public, I don't think you're gonna have to be very clear upfront if this is done that the full transcript will be released, unedited transcript, because there's just
15:02 no trust, unfortunately, in government today because we've seen it even related to the Epstein where, you know, there's elements of the footage of, his jail, cell, that that was
15:14 edited, that people don't trust what they're seeing. So we gotta be very, very candid and transparent, and I think that's what the angst is really all about.
15:22 Yeah. Which is why I would support making all of it, what you can legally make and disclose to the public public. I don't know why that hasn't been done. Like you said, AG Bondi has talked about, releasing specific
15:34 items and then that those items weren't released. So you're right. The American public is is pretty frustrated at this point with the administration because they said they were gonna declassify and make public a lot of
15:44 this information and it hasn't happened. So hopefully when we get back, we'll get to vote on this. I I think we should just get it out of the way now and move on with the business of the house so we can undo a lot of
15:54 Biden era administrative rules, but that's where we're at. And, maybe in the next month or so, some of these depositions will occur.
16:01 Alright. Well, congressman Stupi, I I wanna move on here to to something else. And and that is you talked about the business of the house. The house was already down to very few legislative days when it comes
16:12 to the end of the fiscal year. I know the house has been working on appropriations, with a whole week now basically cut out from next week. Highly
16:24 unlikely that the house is going to, to be able to advance the appropriations bills in time to meet that deadline.
16:31 Yeah. And then you're gonna have a real challenge because members like me voted for the last CR under the guys that this is just a short term fix so that we have time to go through the appropriations process coming into
16:42 the end of September. And now here we are coming into the end of September where more than likely the appropriations process will not be complete, and you're gonna have to do another CR. I never voted for a CR until
16:54 president Trump asked us to vote for this last 1 to give them time to do what they need to do. We've passed 2 appropriations bills on the house floor. I don't even believe the senate has started their process, of going
17:05 through the appropriations process. There's 9 more to go. There's 11 of them. So it usually takes about a week per appropriations bill and, obviously, only only 4 weeks left when we get back from the recess. That makes
17:17 that timeline very difficult to achieve. And then we're gonna be backed into a corner with the CR. And then the decision as a lawmaker is gonna be, do you vote for a continuing resolution to keep funding at the same
17:27 levels it's been since Nancy Pelosi, or do you vote no against the CR and shut down the government? And both of those both of those decisions obviously have implications and ramifications to it. I don't wanna see the
17:39 government shut down. At the same time, I don't think we should be continuing this level of spending that we have had because Washington has a spending problem, and we're 37000000000000 dollars in debt. So that's gonna
17:48 be the challenge at the end of September if we can't get these appropriations bills across the finish line.
17:53 I I think the, the the the argument that Russ Vought OBM OMB director would say is that they can do the rescissions, which you saw you pass through the house, senate did. Little
18:05 timid on the senate side in terms of cutting, but I think they would advocate that that is the, the the alternative. Alright. Congressman, we're up against a break. Greg, we're gonna come back. I wanna talk about Iran. I
18:16 wanna talk about your legislation that would give those who have been taken advantage of by the gender mutilation factories that have, popped up all across the country. A right of,
18:29 of recourse. We're gonna talk about that and, and more coming up right after the break. So folks, stay tuned. More Washington Watch still ahead. I do wanna encourage you to, join
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21:56 Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Tony Berg, your host. Thanks for tuning in. Last Friday, Children's National Hospital here in DC announced that they were ending so called gender transition procedures for
22:07 minors due to, quote, escalating legal and regulatory risk. Starting August the thirtieth, the hospital's providers will cease writing prescriptions for so called gender affirming medications.
22:19 Children's National is but the latest in a string of hospitals stepping back from providing these, experimental but life altering so called treatments for children. But, what can congress do to
22:31 hurry this along and and make sure that children are protected? Continuing my conversation with congressman Greg Stubbe, a member of the House Ways and Means Committee, as well as a select, permanent
22:43 select committee on intelligence. He represents the seventeenth congressional district of Florida. Congressman Subi, thanks for sticking with us through the break. Alright. Before I get to the bill that you've
22:54 introduced, I just wanna get your response to, to Iran's foreign minister saying that, they will not give up their pursuit of enriched uranium. I mean, after
23:06 all the experience from the United States and Israel, they they're not backing away.
23:13 Yeah. Well, that's a problem because Iran cannot be able to obtain a nuclear weapon. And if you enrich across a certain percent, you're not using it for civilian purposes. You're using it for,
23:25 nuclear ambitions from a offensive purpose, a military purpose. And the United States has said unequivocally and this is a Republican and a Democrat position. Joe Biden said this. Obama said this. Clinton
23:37 said this. We, America, is not going to let Iran obtain a nuclear weapon. They they chant death to America. They chant chant death to Israel. Israel is obviously not gonna allow
23:49 that to occur as well. So for them, after everything that has happened, after Trump bombed some of their nuclear facilities, for them to say they're not gonna give up enrichment is a challenging perspective for them to
24:00 put themselves in. It puts themselves in a box, where the rest of the world other than China and Russia obviously don't think that they should have a nuclear weapon and then puts us in a posture where we have to defend
24:12 against if they take steps to enrich uranium further than what they're doing or they take steps to put themselves on a path for a nuclear warhead.
24:19 Now they admitted that the, the the bombing from the United States and Israel has, done serious damage to their capabilities. But, in the their communications
24:30 regarding the snapback from the JCPOA and the United Nations Security Council putting sanctions back on them, they threatened retaliation. What are they capable of doing?
24:43 Well, that's a great question, and that's a question that we on the intelligence committee have been asking our analysts, for that type of information of, okay, what has been destroyed, what hasn't been destroyed, what
24:53 kind of timeline are we looking at for them to to be able to recur some of these enrichment proceedings, what does that look like from a military perspective, what does that look like from a defensive perspective? I
25:03 don't know if anybody knows the answers to those questions, but, obviously, we have intel. They have intel. The Israelis have intel, and we're gonna make sure that, the Israelis and ourselves are defended against any
25:15 attacks if it gets to that point. But, we should sanction them as much as possible. If we can cut them off economically, then you're keeping them from being able to do a lot of the things that they can do
25:27 because they don't have the resources to do it. That's what's what's so dangerous about the Biden regime was they opened up billions of dollars of revenue to Tehran based on a policy decision and releasing sanctions.
25:39 All of those should be re reinstituted as much as we possibly can to cut them off economically, and they financially won't be able to do the type of things that they wanna do.
25:47 Well, I also think that could help facilitate a regime change as well.
25:51 Regime change, new leadership, for them to realize that they're gonna have to come to the table and negotiate a peace treaty, a peace treaty that does not put them on the path for a nuclear weapon, a peace treaty that is
26:03 a non nuclear Iran, which is what the president wants, which is what Marco wants, which is what the world wants, frankly. Even other Arab nations don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
26:15 So if if it can bring them to the table to talk truly peace and have a peace agreement put in place that doesn't allow them to get new nuclear proliferation, then that would be a great step for
26:26 them, America, our allies in the Middle East and the world.
26:31 Alright. Congressman Greg Stubbe, I wanna move on to another topic. You were 1 of the first to address this gender ideology craziness. You did it
26:43 on the house floor, and you had your Democratic colleagues come after you for addressing this issue. But earlier today, you introduced a bill addressing the the medical centers that
26:55 perform these so called gender transition procedures on children. They're experimental using drugs and irreversible surgeries, but you are giving those who are taking advantage of an opportunity
27:07 to fight back, and I think it's going to send a message across America to those who are in this business.
27:14 Yeah. You're gonna see if this bill passes, you're you're gonna see hospitals refuse to do this type of procedure. You're gonna see medical professionals refuse to do any type of gender mutilation that has been going on
27:26 in our country. I mean, think if you're 1 of these minors that was talked into doing something like this, an irreversible physical surgery, and then you become 18, and you become an adult, and you realize that you made a
27:37 mistake, and your parents who authorized this decision for you made a mistake and it's irreversible. You can't go back. So what our bill would do, myself and senator Hawley, is allow for you to have a civil
27:49 cause of action, a private right of cause of action against the doctors, the physicians, the hospitals, the health networks that allowed this to occur, you will see the behavior change very, very quickly if
28:00 hospitals believe that they're gonna be held civilly liable for doing these type of things because lord knows what a jury would award if a minor was convinced to do this type of surgery and it is irreversible. So I think
28:12 you would see the behavior change. You already alluded to the fact that some of these hospitals are already changing their policy. I think a lot of that is because president Trump is in the White House. There's different
28:21 leadership in HHS. In our health agencies, there's different leadership in Congress. So the direction of the country obviously does not support this unlike the Biden administration and is going back to, frankly,
28:33 things that are much more reasonable than allowing our our minors to do these type of procedures.
28:39 Yeah. I mean and I've been talking with trial lawyers. I think they'll be all over this when this, if this passes. Very quickly got about a minute left. You you did another bill yesterday restoring biological truth to
28:50 the workplace act. This would affect, actually a pastor in Baton Rouge, bi vocational pastor fired from the local library for refusing to use preferred pronouns. Your
29:02 legislation would address that. I got about 45 seconds.
29:05 Yeah. And we've seen this in the education realm where teachers are, you know, because of their faith, and their biblical values refused to refer to a young boy as a a she and all these different
29:17 issues that the far left has taken us to this. So this bill would address these issues in moving forward, and I I really hope that, the house can move on these 2 different pieces of legislation, and we can send
29:29 them to the senate.
29:30 Well, we'll, we'll put them up on our website, encourage people to weigh in on it. As always, Greg, appreciate your leadership on these
29:37 important issues. Anytime. Good to see
29:39 you. Alright. Congressman Greg Stube of Florida. Check out the website, tony perkins dot com. Alright. Don't go away. When we come back, the governor of joins me. You'll see the gods, so don't go away.Show more
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