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California: smuggling tunnel from Mexico uncovered; ICE Agent attacks increase; church awaits SCOTUS ruling on COVID fines. Elsewhere: Israel-U.S. next steps in Iran; SCOTUS gender ideology victory.
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Current Events and Political Analysis 0:01 From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, DC, bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and0:12 newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heise.0:19 Well, good afternoon. Welcome to this Friday edition of Washington Watch. Hope you've had a fantastic week and getting ready for a wonderful weekend. I'm Jody Heise, a senior fellow here at the Family Research Council.0:31 Glad to have you joining us today. We've got a lot to bring your way. Let me give you some of the highlights. First of all, Israel and Iran continue to exchange strikes as the world awaits0:42 president Trump's highly anticipated decision on whether or not the US will get involved directly in this conflict. But the US made clear today that whatever that decision0:54 might be, America supports Israel's fight against Iran.1:00 Iran is the principal source of instability and terror in the Middle East. While the United States was not involved in Israel's strikes, let there be no doubt that the United States continues to stand with1:11 Israel and supports its actions against Iran's nuclear ambitions.1:18 Well, that was US ambassador to the UN, Dorothy Hsieh, during the UN Security Council's emergency meeting today. And we'll discuss the latest on the war when I'm joined a little bit later in the
1:29 program by Ruthie Blum from the Jewish News Syndicate. And I'll also get the perspective from Capitol Hill when I'm joined here in just a moment by Texas congressman Randy Weber.
1:41 And meanwhile, right here in the US, Democrats continue to villainize agents of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, also known as ICE, But they're
1:53 accusing them of terrorizing Americans and even human trafficking. Now all of this is coming from those who did nothing to stop real human trafficking that
2:05 was taking place during the my Biden administration, and I'll be discussing all of this with congressman Weber as well. And speaking of the Biden administration,
2:17 do you remember alright. I'm sure this is an easy question. Do you remember how they pushed for mandates during the COVID pandemic? Perhaps probably a better way of saying
2:28 it is how could any of us ever forget how they push mandates during COVID? Well, those days might be long gone, but there's still 1 church fighting to overturn
2:40 a 1200000.0 dollar fine that was imposed on them for holding worship services during the COVID lockdowns, and we'll get the latest on that important case as the program
2:52 unfolds. And then to close out the program and to close out the week, I'll be joined by David Clawson for our weekly Biblical World View segment to discuss some of the headlines from this week, including
3:05 the Supreme Court ruling that upheld Tennessee's law prohibiting experimental gender procedures on minors. That was a big 1. So as always, we've got a lot to
3:17 bring your way today. You don't wanna miss any of it, but if in case you do, you can always go back and get it and as well as other archive programs and lots of information at our website,
3:29 tony perkins dot com. So be sure to check that out. Alright. Let's jump into our first item for the day. There's a lot of attention right now on Israel and their fight against terrorists who threaten
3:41 their safety and their security. The Trump administration continues to work hard to keep Americans safe and secure here at home while at the same time trying to deal with what's happening in Israel and
3:53 abroad. But this week, right here in home, the US border patrol revealed that it is unearthed an extensive smuggling tunnel that was
4:04 spanning from Tijuana all the way to the San Diego area, and acting chief patrol agent of the San Diego sector Jeffrey Stoniker says that the move underground is not
4:16 surprising for these foreign terrorist organizations. There's that word again, terrorist, be it in the Middle East or perhaps right here at home. So meanwhile,
4:29 Democrats are labeling these ICE agents as the ones who are terrorizing Americans. It's amazing. You would think that they didn't learn a thing from the fallout over the defund
4:41 police movement. But, nonetheless, here to to discuss this and more is congressman Randy Weber. He serves on the House Committee on Energy and Commerce and represents the fourteenth congressional district of
4:52 Texas. Congressman Weber, my friend, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always great to see you.
4:58 Well, thank you, Jody. Glad to be here. Glad y'all keep things in perspective. We sure appreciate Washington Watch.
5:04 Well, thank you so much. Alright. Let's go. I know, you you and I both served a lot. This has been 1 of your hot buttons for a long time, with with your own home state of Texas. But this
5:16 discovery of the smuggling tunnel, especially given the distance and how sophisticated it seems to be, what are your thoughts about this so far?
5:25 Well, it it actually kinda coincides with some stuff from the Israel events that are going on, Jody. You know, I was there in 20 13 with APAC when I first got elected, and they Israel had uncovered
5:37 tunnels from Egypt all the way into the Gaza Strip. And, of course, they were funneling weapons. They were funneling concrete so they could make barriers and all that kind of stuff. Not food for the people in Gaza Strip.
5:49 They were using tunnels as simply a terroristic conduit, if you wanna call that, use that name. And so it's no surprise that they're using it there on the southwest corner of our country
6:02 because that's what they're doing. They're smuggling drugs. They're smuggling fentanyl. They're smuggling human trafficking and, I'm sure, weapons. And so the fact that it comes into California is no surprise to me,
6:13 especially when you watch I call him governor Gruesome because what his policies are just that. When he is wanting to sue president Trump for trying to protect
6:25 Californians. I mean, you can't make this stuff up. I wouldn't be surprised, Jody, if there's not more more tunnels that's gonna be uncovered.
6:33 Yeah. I agree with you. And I I'm it's interesting you brought that up, the similarity between the tunnels here and those that we're seeing, going into Israel and so forth. That was the first thing that came to my mind
6:44 when this was unearthed and they discovered it and the sophisticated nature of it and the capacity to drive and to do all sorts of things immediately, because it like you, I've been to Israel, and it's
6:56 it's so so similar. You just wonder if there are some dots that are being connected there. So how does this congressman Weber, this discovery of the tunnel, how how in
7:07 your mind does this support the overall effort of president Trump and Republicans to squash illegal immigration? I mean, they found the tunnel now.
7:19 They're gonna deal with it. This is part of a big agenda promise. Is that correct?
7:26 It it absolutely is. And I and president Trump's intent, as I understand, on on building the wall. Of course, as you know, Jody, United States and Mexico share about a 2000 mile border, give or take, and Texas
7:38 has, I think, at 1967 miles, whatever it is. Texas has almost 1200 miles of that border, so we're right around the 2 thirds range. So border for us is extremely important.
7:50 I would not be surprised that we would find tunnels coming from in Mexico into Texas. Now will they be of that magnitude? I don't know. California is a lot more
8:01 forgiving when you watch people trying to ride against a great custom border patrol, when you watch people just when you watch elected officials trying to tell federal officials that you cannot
8:13 protect the federal border, basically, things are way out of whack. But I think president Trump, as you know, from all the statistics that are coming back, hardly any people are being released.
8:25 CBP is releasing hardly 0 people here in the last month or so. And so it's working. President Trump is on the right track, and he's gonna stand through for his promise.
8:36 Yeah. I and it's interesting that you brought up the attacks and so forth that we are watching against our own federal personnel. I'm sure you probably saw that the DHS data
8:48 is showing that the ice agents are facing a some 500 percent increase in assault attempts while they're trying to arrest illegal aliens who are living here in the
9:00 US. What does what does that tell us in your opinion about our fight to secure the US from foreign threats? Who knows who may already be here,
9:12 but when we are seeing this type of assaults against the increase against our ICE agents, What do you think?
9:20 Well, it it it says to me socialism, communism, because they want the federal government to do everything for everybody all the time, irrespective of costs, like governor Gruesome, as I
9:32 call him, because they want to protect everybody who's coming into the country illegally. You've heard this. I've heard this. We believe the Democratic Party wants to get enough illegal voters, if you will, so
9:44 that they can take over an electoral college. They can win elections. They can take over. But for for us to simply for Americans, I'm not talking about our greatest customer patrol, our police officers. But for Americans
9:55 to simply ignore criminals coming across the border, They've lost their mind. They expect the federal government to step back and let them bring in as many bugs as they can along with
10:07 drugs, along with, you know, sex trading and all those things. People have lost their minds. We're not an open border country, not supposed to be. This is how it starts with socialism and communism if you read your
10:19 history.
10:20 Yeah. And, you know what? It's so disturbing to me, among other things, there's so much, but but 1 of the things that just is so disturbing is how Democrats continue to support these protests.
10:32 They continue to support these riots that are impeding our ICE agents. Why in the world do they continue to support that despite all the the data? It
10:44 just seems to me that this is, just against American principles.
10:50 Well, it's not hard for me, Jody, when you think about it. They want to win the next election. They want to get back in power at any cost even if it means bringing
11:01 illegals, drug trafficking, that means young girls in sex trade, and lots of fentanyl. Even if it means all of those things harmed or you're seeing more and more thugs in Colorado now and some of these apartment
11:13 complexes in Denver. You're seeing all of this happen simply because they can demonize Donald Trump. They can demonize the Republican Party. They can try to gain the sympathy of the American people. I think
11:25 Americans are just I think American people are fed up, too smart for it, but that doesn't stop the Democrats for trying to do that just so they can get back in power to do what? Let more illegals
11:36 in? I don't think so. Not on our watch.
11:40 Yeah. You know, it's a great point you bring up. In fact, I I just wanna if we can get clip 2, I wanna break bring this up. This is congressman Maxwell Frost on, Stephen Colbert, and he talk about demonizing.
11:52 Let's play this clip and get your reaction to it. Clip 2, please.
11:56 We have ICE ICE federal agents pulling up, terrorizing our communities, hopping out of unmarked vans, stealing, and, yes, kidnapping people, not giving them their day in court, and, yes,
12:08 human trafficking them to other nations, other countries around the entire world.
12:14 Wow. What do you make of those comments?
12:16 You cannot make this stuff up. He's trying to turn it over onto us as if we are the villains, as if we are the human traffickers. He's using every single stunt he can from the
12:28 villainous, I would call him communist, from Hitler's regime when it was in power. He's trying to make it sound like it's our fault. It's our fault. And the truth of the matter is they're turning a blind eye, although
12:40 not so blind because as I said, I think they're they're actually collaborating with everybody each other they everybody they can to make sure they win the midterms coming up. I hope people are waking up.
12:52 Well, I do too. Listen. We've only less than a minute left. Are your thoughts about the possibility of the US becoming more involved in the Israel Iran conflict? I know there's not all Republicans are on the same page.
13:04 Real quickly, your thoughts?
13:06 Well, I think we should. You know, Zechariah 2 8 says that Israel is the apple of God's eye. And so we are make sure that nobody destroys Israel. Nobody hurts Israel. You gotta love our brothers and sisters in Israel.
13:17 And you know this, Jody. Israel is the most he's the country that has the most different nationalities. They're very, very fair to everybody that comes. Iran has been trying to destroy them forever.
13:29 It's high time we said, look. No nuclear weapon. This is the deadline.
13:35 Thank you so so much, US congressman Randy Weber of Texas. Always great to have you on the program with us. Thanks for your insight and your input. Alright, friends. Coming up next
Religious Freedom and Legal Battles
13:46 you're welcome. Coming up next, we're gonna go directly to discuss Iran and Israel with Ruthie Bloom. She's, in the know, and she'll be talking to us right after this break.
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17:05 I am Jody Heisz, your Friday host, and we're thrilled to have you with us today. Alright. Earlier this morning, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israel will strike all
17:18 of Iran's nuclear facilities, including the fortified Forteaux facility. He also implied that the Israeli military has all the capability they need to
17:30 strike these facilities without the US joining the fight. So what does this mean for the conflict at large, and what other developments perhaps have taken place since
17:41 yesterday? Well, here to discuss the latest is Ruthie Bloom. She's a columnist and senior contributing editor at the Jewish News Syndicate. She's also a former adviser at
17:53 the office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Ruthie, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to have you.
18:01 Great to be back. Thank you, Jody.
18:04 Well, listen. What do you make of, Benjamin Netanyahu's comments regarding Israel's plan to strike all of Iran's nuclear facilities, including the Forteaux
18:16 facility.
18:18 Well, I have no, inside knowledge of Israel's military capabilities. However, I will, remind you of something that Netanyahu said to the Biden administration,
18:30 at some point, after the October seventh Hamas massacre, when secretary of state Blinken was issuing warnings about withholding weapons.
18:43 And Netanyahu said, look. We need we want those weapons that we purchased, but if we have to, we will fight with our fingernails. And the reason I'm,
18:55 bringing that up is that today, we have the most friendly president in the White House. I mean, we had him prior in his first term, the most pro Israel
19:06 president ever. And so Netanyahu doesn't need to say something like that. If you don't help us, we'll fight with our fingernails. But what he is the message he's conveying is you do
19:18 what's in America's interest, and we do what's in Israel's interest. And if you can't for some reason or are not interested in joining this fight, Israel still has to do
19:30 it.
19:32 Yeah. That great point. And, you know, I guess and you may not be able to answer this. I I don't know. But, 1 of the reasons why I asked that question is we have all heard now in in, recent
19:44 days that the, Ford Oak facility is really out of reach for any weapon except the American bunker busters. And I don't know. Weapon except the American bunker busters. And I don't know, perhaps Israel has something now
19:54 that is able to go down there or there may be other options. But you bring up a good point that either way, the relationship now is vastly different between this president and the previous president.
20:06 Is that what you're saying?
20:08 Completely. The I mean, it's night and day. Okay? Because president Trump is totally pro Israel. He has shown nothing but sympathy and friendship. He understands that the
20:20 alliance is of course, Israel needs the United States. He understands the United States also needs Israel. And, yes, it's true. These are 2 separate countries with, separate interests that
20:32 often align. And in this case, I believe they do align because the Islamic Republic of Iran is a threat to the whole world. It's certainly a direct threat to Israel, but also
20:43 to America. After all, the Ayatollahs have been saying that America is the great Satan and Israel is only the small Satan. It's just that Israel happens to be much closer
20:55 geographically and in the line of fire. And I would like to remind everybody that this that Israel it's true that Israel launched this war a week ago, but it was a
21:07 preemptive defensive war.
21:11 Absolutely. And speaking of of of that, there we're seeing it now virtually every night exchange strikes, between the 2 countries, and it happened again last night. Can you tell us about what took place?
21:24 Well, there are a lot of strikes last night, but you meantime, Iran is firing, very heavy ballistic missiles into Israel. As a matter of fact, my kids keep having to
21:36 run to and spend the night in bomb shelters. In fact, just a few hours ago, there was a, there were a few missiles that actually hit that weren't weren't intercepted, and
21:48 hit a building in Haifa, that we saw yesterday that a missile hit the Soroka hospital in Beersheba, because Iran is targeting
21:59 civilians while Israel is going after military targets. Now, what we know is that Israel is com com has eliminated at least 50
22:11 percent of Iran's missile launchers, and that's very important. Because without a launcher, a missile isn't worth anything. And Right. We know that now whether or not Israel has
22:23 the capability to bomb Fordow from the air and has the right bunker busters, I certainly couldn't say. But what Israel does have is incredible technology and
22:35 soldiers willing to go in on the ground. Again, Israel is not asking for American troops on the ground. I know that there are some, certainly, Democrats, but there are
22:47 also many Republicans who fear that Israel is trying to drag America into the into a war. It is nothing like Iraq, and even the Iraq war, Israel didn't
22:59 drag America into that war. In fact, Israel then wanted to attack Iran and not Iraq. So I would just like to, you know, refute some of these, misconceptions.
23:11 Now what is true is that, Israel has many kinds of, I would say, tricks up its sleeve, if I could put it that way. And who knew that this was
23:23 gonna this strike was gonna happen in this way and that so successfully? I mean, you know, when president Trump a few days ago said, we have control of the airspace over Iran,
23:34 I think Israelis were kind of smiling because they said if president Trump says we, he means to enter the war because, actually, it's Israel that seems to have, control over the
23:46 airspace. And in October, Israel took out, Iran's air defenses. That is what is enabling it to conduct these strikes without its planes being shot down.
23:59 Absolutely. We've got, less than a minute. So real quickly, it's it seems that president Trump is still being hopeful of achieving some sort of negotiations with Iran. Do you think that's possible?
24:11 Well, I never believe it's possible to negotiate with jihadists at all. But what's brilliant about what president Trump said is he said unconditional surrender. I mean, basically, what Trump, I think, is
24:23 saying, of course, we would prefer a diplomatic solution, but the diplomatic solution he prefers is a white flag from the enemy. And, you know, that's a crucial distinction
24:35 between what the UN is saying and what Trump is saying.
24:39 Ruthie Bloom, columnist and, contributing editor at J and S, thank you so much for joining us. As always, stay safe, and we appreciate your insight. Alright, friends. Coming up, a huge religious
24:51 freedom case out of California. We'll break down all the details in just a moment. Stay tuned. We'll be back.
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27:02 Welcome back to Washington Watch.
27:04 Great to have you today. I'm your Friday host, Jody Heiss, and we welcome you aboard. Alright. If you're a longtime viewer or listener to Watch, you may recall our coverage of a local
27:16 church in San Jose, California. They faced tremendous persecution while they were trying to weather literally their state as well as local government's onerous COVID 19
27:28 lockdown policies. We were seeing this type of thing all across the country, but it seemed to 0 in on Calvary Chapel San Jose. In fact, they won a myriad of appeal cases
27:41 during that period of time, but now the church has issued a new petition to overturn a heavy fine that was imposed on them during those lockdowns. And here to discuss
27:53 this case is Robert Tyler. He's the president and chief counsel of Advocates for Faith and Freedom, and he currently represents Calvary Chapel senior pastor Mike
28:04 McClure. Bob, welcome to Washington Watch. Great to have you joining us.
28:09 Great to be with you again. Thank you.
28:12 Okay. So let's, if you would, break down for us the initial details of this case regarding, Calvary Chapel. Why was this church targeted? What was the deal
28:24 here?
28:25 Well, I'm glad you asked that question because that really is the crux of, the scenario we sit in today. Look. We're in California,
28:37 And 1 of the reasons why we exist as advocates for faith and freedom and we're focused here in California to a large degree is because I've been saying this for 25 years that what comes out of California gets
28:49 exported to the rest of the country. And COVID was no different. It's important to know when and where did the COVID lockdowns in the United States began?
29:01 They began in Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley is Santa Clara County, California. Santa Clara County is the 1 who issued close to
29:13 4000000 dollars in fines to Calvary Chapel San Jose, our client, pastor Mike McClure, who is just he and his church, just,
29:25 stuck it out with tenacity and courage. And, and so in Santa Clara County, when you look back and see, they are the ones who started the lockdowns before California
29:37 started the lockdowns, before any other county or state started the lockdowns, before president Trump issued lockdowns nationwide. It started with a with a, gentleman named an attorney
29:50 named James Williams, who it appears went to his, medical officer and said, we need to shut everything down, a lawyer making that kind of a decision. And I I
30:02 don't have any belief that it was actually the medical director for the county who made the decision. It was him, my view. And so, you got a lawyer who was, there's a foundation
30:14 called the Georgian, Daisy Soros Foundation. And if you recognize that name, my understanding is he's, George Soros's brother.
30:25 Well, apparently, they funded about 90000 dollars to mister James William to go to law school in the first place. And then he gets into the county and next thing you know, we have these
30:37 lockdowns after he rises in the ranks and becomes the senior counsel for the county council's office in Santa Clara County. There
30:49 there's there's a lot behind this, and you go back and you take a look at who benefited the most out of, COVID 19 from a from a financial perspective. I believe, it was Silicon
31:01 Valley. Probably not even the the pharmaceuticals, but I I don't know. Between the pharmaceutical industry and, and Silicon Valley with, you know, consider all of the
31:12 technology, Netflix, etcetera, etcetera. Bottom line is
31:17 So let me ask you this.
31:19 Yeah. Let me let me
31:20 ask you this because we've we've only got a couple of minutes here. But, now, there's another petition that the church is trying to get back, horrendous fines that were, put against
31:32 him. But this case as a whole, why is it so important not only to Calvary Chapel, but across the whole, as you said, what starts in California tends to spread across the country. So do you think
31:44 the the church is gonna get their money back, and why is this such an important case?
31:49 Well, the church hasn't paid any money, to the county at this point in time. This is important because how in the world could it be lawful that a church who stands up on the constitutional
32:01 principles, and is right constitutionally and legally, can be fined, 1 1200000.0 dollars. Now we did get it knocked down. I mean, it's about
32:12 25 percent of what they were originally trying to get. At this point in time, the fines are about a face mask. Can you force a church, a pastor to require that people who come
32:24 into church wear a face mask when they allow all sorts of other exemptions to the rule? Allow, people who are working in industry, government
32:36 contractors who can decide, well, I'm not gonna wear face mask because it might inhibit my work. Well, pastor Mike McClure sincerely looks at this and says, for me to stand there behind a pulpit
32:48 and to preach with a mask on or to go pray with someone who's dying of cancer and not be willing to take my mask off so they can see my face and my emotions, that inhibits my my sincere
33:01 responsibility as a pastor to administer to people. When we were told in California that you couldn't you couldn't touch someone, you had to stay 6 feet apart, it it was just wide. You couldn't do baptisms. You
33:13 couldn't give communion. This is a case that really stands, I believe, in the long run, for, you know, how far the, the courts are going to permit a local government in
33:25 restricting religious worship.
33:27 Absolutely. I wanna thank you so much, Robert Tyler, president and chief counsel at Advocates for Faith and Freedom, for standing in the gap, not only for Calvary Chapel, but for all of us
33:39 across the country for religious freedoms. Bob Tyler, thank you so much. God bless you. We'll be keeping a pulse on this. Thanks. Alright, friends. Coming up, FRC's David Clawson will join me for our biblicalShow more
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