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Introduction and Global Updates 0:00 From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, DC, bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers,0:13 all from a biblical worldview, sitting in for Tony as today's host, Jody Heiss.0:20 Well, good afternoon. Welcome to this Thursday edition of Washington Watch. I'm Jody Heiss, senior fellow here at the Family Research Council. Honored to be sitting in today for Tony, and thank you for joining0:32 us as well. Alright. Coming up on this edition of Washington Watch, Israel's security cabinet is meeting right now. They're talking about the potential full scale military0:44 occupation of the Gaza Strip. And according to Israel's prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, that is exactly the intention.0:52 Will Israel take control of all of Gaza?0:56 We intend to. In order to, assure our security, remove Hamas there, enable the population to be free of Gaza, and to pass it to civilian governance. That1:08 is not Hamas and not anyone advocating the the destruction of Israel. That's what we wanna do. We wanna liberate ourselves and liberate the people of Gaza from the awful terror of Hamas.1:22 That, of course, was prime minister Netanyahu earlier today with Fox's Bill Hammer just moments before he actually headed into the meeting. So what would a full scale takeover of the
1:34 Gaza Strip look like? I'll be discussing that in just a little while when I'm joined by retired lieutenant colonel Robert McGinnis. He and I will also talk about what may be ahead for Russia
1:46 and Ukraine following yesterday's meeting between US special envoy Steve Witkoff and Russian president Vladimir Putin.
1:54 I do think that the talks that ambassador Witkoff had with Putin and his team over the last few hours is good because we now have a sense at least of what it is they would require. Now it may not be what Ukraine can
2:06 accept, but at least it gives us an outline to work off of. And now we gotta see how how how much we can move the 2 sides towards each other.
2:14 That was US, secretary of state Marco Rubio yesterday, and we'll be talking about all of that a little later in the program. And in other international news, the latest round of president Trump's tariffs
2:26 took effect today. The administration insists that tariffs are working. Well, are they? I'll be discussing the latest on the trade wars when I'm joined in just a moment by Virginia congress
2:38 man, Morgan Griffith. He is a member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. And speaking of wars, there's another battle taking place right here in our own country between pro life state officials
2:50 and pro abortion state officials. And right in the middle of it all, Massachusetts is poised to be the next state to embrace a law to protect abortionists who are trafficking abortion
3:02 drugs into pro life states. Wow. We'll be talking about that when I'm joined by pro life attorney general, Tim Griffin from Arkansas. And then lastly,
3:14 you've probably heard by now about all the commotion taking place in Texas where democrat, house members there are missing in action. We discussed this earlier in the week. Well, if you
3:26 wanna get a better understanding of redistricting, of gerrymandering, and what all the fuss is all about, well, then, you wanna join us here in just a little while when I'm joined by Hans
3:37 von Spakovsky of the Heritage Foundation who will lay all that out for us. So as usual, we've got a lot to bring your way today. You don't wanna miss a second of it. But if you do, you can always
3:49 go back and catch it at our website, tony perkins dot com. I encourage you to check out that website, for past programs as well and a host of resources that are available for you. I also wanna
4:01 encourage you now, right now, you wanna get some information on our upcoming, pray vote stand summit. This is a powerful summit. It's gonna be taking place October seventeenth and eighteenth in Chino
4:13 Hills, California. Right now, I encourage you to check out pray vote stand dot org for all the details on that. Alright. Let's jump into our first item for today. The latest
4:25 round of president Trump's tariffs are taking effect today and, sitting up substantial portion of the world's nations with tariffs on a wide, wide
4:37 range of goods that are imported into the United States. Everything from Japanese cars to Swiss chocolate to spices from India. I mean, you pretty much name it. All of these things are now
4:48 gonna be slapped with additional costs. So how will this affect American consumers at the checkout line? Well, here now to discuss this and more is congressman Morgan Griffith. He
5:00 serves on several house committees, including the powerful Energy and Commerce Committee. He represents the ninth congressional district of Virginia. Congressman Griffith, always great to see you, my friend. Welcome to
5:12 Washington Watch.
5:13 Good to see you, Jody.
5:16 Alright. So, your thoughts on president Trump's latest round of tariffs taking place today. What do you think of it?
5:23 Well, I mean, these are all things that he, announced that he was going to do in the in the past, and various nations have come forward. He's entered into a number of historic deals with,
5:35 you know, Europe, with Japan, etcetera. And so a lot of these, are are the taking effect of the deals that he's made. But then you have countries that didn't come to the table and
5:47 negotiate and that's what they need to do. The president's made it very clear that he's more than willing to negotiate with those who are interested in working with, the United States and getting a fair deal for for both
5:58 countries and both institutions, whether it's Europe or whether it's Japan or some other country. And if you're not interested in doing fairness, then, we're not interested in doing business with you. And I think it's
6:08 appropriate that the president is putting America as the first priority as opposed to an afterthought when we're looking at the world economy.
6:17 Yeah. You know, there was a lot of fearmongering, I think, is probably the best word when president Trump first announced these new tariffs several months back. But now that we have a little water under the bridge
6:28 looking back, what's your overall assessment of the results at least so far that we've seen?
6:34 Well, I think it's working so far. I mean, obviously, we wanna be careful that we don't see consumer prices go up as a result of that, substantially. What we wanna do is bring back American, manufacturing that
6:46 this will help with that. I think that's gonna be positive for the country. And then it it just creates a products into some of these countries,
6:58 that have previously had unreasonable limitations or unreasonable tariffs on our products. And now we're gonna look for more reciprocal, arrangements. I think that's appropriate. I think the president's heading the right
7:09 direction. Does that mean everything's gonna work out perfectly? Of course not. Nobody can guarantee that as you know. But I do think it's putting America on the right footing for our economy to move forward in years to
7:20 come. And I think even in the short run, it's gonna work out pretty good.
7:24 Well, I think you hit it right on the head, congressman Griffith about I mean, it's a fairness. There this has been I think the American people probably don't realize just how unfair the trade system has been around the
7:36 world towards the United States. And, it is refreshing finally to have a president who's addressing that. If I can switch gears with you a little bit, earlier today, president Trump announced that he's ordered the,
7:48 commerce department to begin work on a new census that will, not include undocumented immigrants. Your take on that move?
7:58 Well, I think that's appropriate. Now there's some desire from some to have this already by the 20 26 elections. I'm not sure the Census Department can get it ready by 20 26, but
8:10 not including illegal immigrants, I I think is appropriate. If you're here and you're here illegally, you shouldn't count. And I mean, we even had a Democratic congresswoman say that, you know, she
8:22 needed those people to count for her numbers so that her district would, still lean her way or make it easier for her. And, that's not what the census is about. That's not what the,
8:33 redistricting process is supposed to be about, protecting members. I mean, it's supposed to be plus or minus 1 person in a congressional district, and plus or minus 1 person should mean US citizens, not people who have
8:45 come here illegally.
8:48 Yeah. So, so dive a little bit deeper into that, the importance and really the purpose of of all of this. And, you know, what's the impact that you think will take place from cutting
9:00 illegal immigrants from the count? What what is really that all about?
9:05 Well, it it it may make a difference within some of the states, but, certainly, when we get to, the next, Dicennio Digest or Dicennio Census every 10 years,
9:16 if we set the stage now and get it straight and we get internal within the states, it means that you're gonna see a shift in the electoral college. It means that you're gonna see, several states, California, New York,
9:27 lose seats in the US House of Representatives, and other states will pick those up, like Texas and Florida. And that's why the Democrats don't wanna go there, and that's why they, you know, have relied
9:39 on, illegal immigrants in the census. There's a legal argument. We'll have to see what the courts say, but I think the legal argument is on the side of the president in this case. I believe that it should
9:51 be, US citizens and those that we have lawfully allowed into the country who are on on you know, like green card holders. I think that's fine to count them, but illegal illegal aliens coming
10:03 into our country, changing the demographics in such a way that Democrats are able to hang on to a few extra seats in the US house, that's not what the process is about and not what it's supposed to be
10:15 about.
10:16 Yeah. So it all comes down ultimately to political purpose that's been, used through the the census. And, I think you're spot on here. I and I you know,
10:28 we'll we'll all wait and see what the court system does with with it all. But I think at the end of the day, you have to understand that this impacts the the various voting districts, and illegals are not even supposed
10:39 to be voting in federal elections to begin with. So why should their presence have an impact on that? So it's gonna be very interesting to see all this going forward. There's some other, news on immigration. Earlier this
10:50 week, the, US Department of Justice published a list of sanctuary cities, sanctuary states, counties that are flouting federal immigration
11:02 laws, really. What do you think about all of this? What, what what do you think is gonna come about with identifying these cities and municipalities and states and so forth that
11:14 are sanctuaries?
11:16 Well, I think it's appropriate now. When they first came out with the list, I think they, got a little confused, and they put a number of, counties in my district on there because they had adopted, sanctuary status for
11:27 gun ownership. And there was a little bit of confusion on that. We've gotten that all straightened out. But if you're, if you're giving sanctuary to illegal aliens in
11:39 our country, then I think this list would encourage people maybe not to go to those cities on vacation, not to spend as much money there. And furthermore, you know, the federal government and congress needs to take a
11:51 look at whether or not we should, eliminate some of their federal funding and funding. And the reason I say that is is that we wouldn't wanna take away their federal support for burn grants and and things that are
12:02 helping the police because in many of these cases, even if the city or the county has gone, over to being sanctuary, the law enforcement is still trying to do their job, and I wouldn't wanna see them harmed in any way.
12:14 So what do you think is gonna happen with all of this? I mean, we we now have, a published list. And, unfortunately, as you mentioned, I wasn't aware of the sanctuaries for gun owners. But, we
12:26 have the the list coming up of some of these sanctuary cities and states and so forth. What's the next step? What do you anticipate the Department of Justice to do? Is it going to be, as you just suggested, of,
12:38 perhaps cutting back on some funding of these? Or I what what is going to transpire with this list, do you think?
12:46 Well, that would be up to the executive branch what they do with the list. What I would suggest that they do is that they take a look at this list. This is a this is a first step that they put these folks on notice in
12:56 the various counties and cities and say, you know, we may very well have to withhold some of your funding. I mean, you and I are both from, southern states,
13:08 and, you know, those states back in the 18, sixties didn't wanna follow the federal, law or didn't want were worried about what was gonna happen with federal law, and they decided they weren't gonna follow it. And it
13:18 didn't work out so good. And the same thing is true here. If you're not following federal edicts, then you shouldn't be getting federal money and you probably need to be ready for the federal government to take more
13:29 action. I would start with the money, and then we'll go from there.
13:33 Thank you so much, congressman Morgan Griffith of Virginia. Always great to see you and, great to have you on the program. We appreciate it very much.
13:42 Thank you. Good to see you.
13:45 Alright, friends. Coming up next, retired lieutenant colonel Bob McGinnis will be joining me to break down all the latest in the war between Israel and Hamas as well as Ukraine and Russia.
13:57 So stay tuned for that. We'll be back in a moment.
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17:02 You're tuned in to Washington Watch. Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm Jody Heise. An honor to be filling in for Tony this month. Alright. Ahead of the Israeli security cabinets meeting today
17:14 on the potential full scale military occupation of the Gaza Strip, Israel prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed during an interview that Israel does indeed
17:26 plan to seize temporary control of the Gaza Strip. So what are the potential impacts and implications of such a move, and what would it involve? Well, joining me now to discuss
17:38 this is retired Lieutenant Colonel Robert McGinnis. He's senior fellow for National Security FRC and author of Preparing for World War 3, a global
17:49 conflict that redefines tomorrow. Wow. Colonel McGinnis, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to see you, sir.
17:58 Good good being with you, Jody. Thanks.
18:01 Okay. So, what do you make of this, potential takeover plan? First of all, is it feasible? And secondly, is it 1 that you think can actually be accomplished?
18:13 Yes. I think it can be accomplished. It will not be easy, which is why the top generals have been, you know, warning, prime minister Netanyahu that, this could
18:26 really become something more like a a Vietnam style quagmire if we're not careful. Now, keep keep in mind, the IDF already occupies 75 percent of the Gaza Strip, and so it's the additional
18:38 25 percent that they would have to take over. They'd have to move clearly at least a million, Palestinians southward, and then, of course, they'll have to provide all sorts of provisions.
18:50 The infrastructure, which would include hospitals and camps and, you know, infrastructure, which would include hospitals and camps and, you know, feeding more people, obviously, which has been a problem up to now, and
18:59 then, of course, the military offensive, going after, well rooted, well in encamped, Hamas fighters that may die to the very end and
19:11 take, really a cost against the IDF that they've already paid to a certain degree. So, it could be ugly, but, I think that, you know, the options here are not very good.
19:25 Well, even as you speak, I believe it's still going on. The, security, cabinet meeting is still taking place even as we talk right now. And I can only imagine some of the options like
19:37 you just mentioned that are being discussed, what it's going to take for them to accomplish the goal among other things though. Do you think that they're going to need some sort of buy in if you
19:48 will from Palestinians who are there, who are frankly tired of the Hamas tyranny?
19:56 Well, certainly, the the the loss of life, the loss of impersonal effects, you know, is is something they have to come to grips with. And it's the
20:08 options, like I said, Jody, are not very good. Unfortunately, a lot of Hamas people are, subterranean. Yeah. There are many miles of tunnels underneath, and they'll have to be
20:20 rooted out, which will take a while. And, of course, the Palestinian people will have to, you know, move elsewhere. And, unfortunately, as well, the Jordanians, the Egyptians, and others in the Middle East have been
20:31 unwilling to take refugees from Gaza, because they have a pretty bad reputation even amongst their Arab brethren. So, these are issues that, no doubt
20:43 that the prime minister is dealing with with his own people now and trying to figure figure out what the best course of action is.
20:50 Wow. Very, very complicated. So what happens on this end of things? What are some some ways that president Trump and his administration can rise up right now and support the prime minister and
21:02 his goal?
21:04 Well, certainly, we've already provided 60000000 dollars worth of humanitarian relief, and we'll need to increase that perhaps, as they move south, and the
21:16 IDF moves in. At the same time, there's a whole diplomatic issue. The UK, France, other nations have demonstrated that, you know, they want to
21:27 embrace the idea of a Palestinian state, a 2 state solution. Unfortunately, this just gives encouragement to Hamas to hang on as much as they can. So
21:39 I I would think that that's something we're going to have to do diplomatically to help the Israelis to to finish off Hamas because, you know, no 1 in Israel wants Hamas to survive just
21:51 because of its carnage in the past, and the future, would be something, you know, in tantamount to what they've seen in the past. So, this is a very humbling time for everybody involved.
22:05 Yes. It is in a very fragile time as well. If I can shift gears with you, lieutenant colonel over to the war between Ukraine and Russia. Yesterday, president
22:16 Trump reportedly told European leaders that he plans to meet with Russian president Putin in person and then later a trilateral with Putin and,
22:29 Ukrainian president Zelensky. What are the expectations? You think for these talks? What are they hoping to come out with? I mean, at the ultimate, I know ceasefire, but, I mean, that's probably not gonna happen
22:41 right away. So what do you think are the expectations going into these talks?
22:46 Well, of course, we're assuming this isn't a a ploy by Putin to agree to meet with Zelensky and Trump in order to delay what president Trump has put in place, and that is sanctions and tariffs.
22:58 We've already reached out and touched the the Indians who have been buying a lot of Russian, energy. And, of course, that has kept, the war machine in Moscow moving forward. And
23:10 so I think Putin wants to delay that or put it to an end. Will he come to the negotiation and the United Arab Emirates has indicated? Perhaps. Will he agree to
23:22 peace? The conditions according to secretary Rubio are, pretty significant. They have to be overcome before, you know, president Trump will entertain the idea of sitting down with
23:33 those 2 leaders. And because clearly up to this point, Putin has said he he wouldn't meet with Zelensky, and yet, that's 1 of the conditions. So we'll have to work those out. This
23:46 is, a quagmire itself that has, lasted much longer than anybody expected beginning in February 22, and now here we are in August of 25.
23:58 Well, and, of course, the sanctions are gonna take place tomorrow, So that certainly tightens the screws a little bit more on Putin, and it's gonna be very interesting to see how all of this goes down
24:10 and shapes up. I wanna thank you, retired lieutenant colonel Bob McGinnis, for your insights and your expertise on all of this. Deeply appreciate you joining us today on Washington Watch.
24:21 Thank you, Jerry.
24:24 Alright. Wow. So much happening all around the world. It's literally seemed like fireworks are everywhere. And it's not just abroad. We have a lot taking place right here
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24:48 official leaders in pro abortion states. Well, Arkansas attorney general Tim Griffin will join me next to highlight what his state is doing to stand for life.
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27:03 Welcome back to Washington Watch. I am Jody Heise, and thank you so much for being with us today. Alright. I want you to hear, how I wanna introduce our next,
27:15 guest here. I want you to hear the backdrop. Last week in Massachusetts, Democrats there in the state house and the senate announced that they had come to an
27:26 agreement on radical legislation, friends, that would give legal cover to abortionists from lawsuits in other states. And this legislation would also
27:38 help these abortionists conceal their identities when they're shipping abortion drugs into pro life states. And to make matters worse, as if that that were not bad enough,
27:50 it would also require Massachusetts hospital to perform so called emergency abortions. I mean, this is truly just disturbing
28:03 stuff. And quite frankly, it's legislation like this that pro life state attorney generals are calling on Congress to take action. And here now to discuss this is
28:15 1 of those attorney generals from Arkansas, Tim Griffin. Attorney general Griffin, welcome to Washington Watch. Thank you so much for joining us.
28:24 Thank thanks for having me on. I appreciate the opportunity to talk about this.
28:30 Yeah. It's a big deal. And so I just laid out what's happening in Massachusetts. So give me your reaction to this Massachusetts bill that, frankly, the governor there is expected to sign into
28:41 law.
28:43 Well, it's more of the same, and some of the predicate is really, false, for so I've got the article here where the governor says that this is all about
28:54 making sure that people in Massachusetts are getting the health care that they need. Well, the letter that we wrote congress
29:07 regarding the the shield laws and and this Massachusetts law does some of what we've been concerned about. But that letter that we
29:19 that that the AG signed to congress is not about Arkansans, Arkansas AG, or another state's AG reaching into
29:31 a state regarding their policy or their law. It's about states like Arkansas enforcing our own laws and not being hampered
29:43 from that. And here's the backdrop. As a general matter, law enforcement, AGs, state police, prosecutors,
29:54 federal, state, across the country, red state, blue state, generally speaking, we work together. We work cooperatively. If there's a crime inShow more
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