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S2E02 | Revelation 1, Jesus, Sovereign Over History by Tim Hatch
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Empowering multimedia ministry for bold Christian living: Weekend Messages, Deep End Podcast, Deep Dive Bible Study. Tim Hatch, Lead Pastor, Waters Church, 26 years of pastoral ministry, book author.
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0:14 Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Welcome back, everybody. It is The Deep End season two, episode two, and it is a beautiful day in New England. I hope you're outside at some point0:26 today because it is eighty degrees down here in the basement of Waters Church in North Attleboro, Massachusetts. It is much colder, but it is nice to be with you. Everybody joining us live on Facebook or on YouTube. We0:38 are on YouTube and Facebook live, and you can comment below. Let us know where you're watching from, state, county, room in the house, wherever. We're glad that you're here. My name is Tim, host of The Deep End,0:50 and I'm joined in the studio today with or by Josh Pereira0:54 and Hello.0:54 Chris McKeown.0:55 Hello.0:56 Chris, back for season two.0:57 Yes. Come on. It's great to be back0:59 in this new studio. We renewed your contract.1:01 Yeah. Thank you very much. I did not get the pay raise I asked1:03 for. Fish pump that, man. Unto the lord, my brother. Unto the lord. So you guys doing well? Everything's going1:12 good? Yeah.1:13 Yeah. Yeah.1:13 It's... Like you said, the weather's great. It's that late late summer coming back.1:17 Yeah. I think the hurricane in Florida and our prayers are with our brothers and sisters in Florida, but it's pushing that warm weather up.1:24 We'll take it.1:24 So, yeah, we'll take it. You know, unfortunately, we don't get it much, but we will take it for now. But prayers for Florida, Panhandle, and those areas that might get hit hard by the storm. We don't want them to get hit1:34 hard. We pray God's grace and mercy and protection over them. What do you think of the studio, Chris? You like...1:39 I think it's really, really sharp. It's nice. It's professional looking.1:44 Very professional. Very professionally done. Yes. I didn't give credit to Nicole Hauer who was on staff.1:48 Yeah. She did a lot1:49 of work.1:49 Saw her down hours and hours on end.1:51 Sure. She did. Yeah. So last week, she did... Last week, I gave credit to Michael, Josh, Berea, but then... Yeah.1:56 They're used to all the credits.1:57 Yes. Also joining us in the studio today, we have... Who do we have, Josh Berea, in the studio? Someone special today.2:05 We have the very beautiful, very amazing, the very talented Jeremy Clement. Jeremy.2:12 Jeremy Clement. Newly married.2:13 Guest director, newly married. Beautiful. He's a... He's beautiful.2:17 You called him beautiful.2:18 He is a beautiful2:19 man. In a completely non homosexual way.2:21 Absolutely. Inside now.2:24 So good to have you with us, Jeremy. And Jeremy is... Yes. He works for Fox News.2:29 He... Yes. I was I was gonna say he works for a a syndicated company that we shouldn't say on the air, but, yeah, he works for Fox News.2:34 So That's how big the deep end is getting. We are poaching from Fox News. Of course, we're not paying them anything, but they are here with us today. He is here with us today. No. I'm sorry, Jeremy. We'll we'll give you,2:45 Chick fil A after this Yes. After this episode. Alright. Welcome in everybody again. And, let's get to the news. The news. The news. We are gonna do some segments every week, and we got three segments today, but we're2:56 gonna talk about some news. Sometimes you need good news. Right? Sometimes the world is just so full of bad news that we never think about, wow. There's actually some good people out there. Men are under assault in this3:06 country. Just the male species, I think. It goes without saying with the whole judge Kavanaugh hearings and all that kind of stuff. And, you know, I know where there's people gonna argue about that. I'm not interested in3:16 arguing about that anymore. It's over. Let's move on. But there is something to be said for the fact that, I think it's detrimental to, the human race when we take one gender and just kinda demonize them3:27 a little bit too far. Sure. But I got good news on the male front. Not all men are jerks, and not all men are sexual abusers, predators, and rapists. Turns out there's some good ones out there.3:39 Three three of which are right here. Actually, wait. Wait. Three four five six. Six of us are right here in this room. Anyway, this is from breakpoint dot org. It's a Christian news site, by John Stone Street. He writes3:49 about this. One of this year's recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize is a guy named doctor Dennis Muquagi. He is a surgeon from the Congo. Now, Muquegi... To understand Muquegi's story, need to know a4:01 little bit about the history of the Congo and Central Africa more generally. In nineteen ninety six, the Rwandan genocide happened. Right? Remember that? Yep. There was a there was a response to that from the eastern4:12 part of the con... From Rwanda, and they invaded the eastern part of the condo in in kind of retribution for that genocide. And it started off as retribution, but it turned into Africa's civil4:24 war or Africa's world war, if you will. Nine countries, twenty five militias fought for control or... Of all or part of the Congo and its mineral riches. By two thousand eight, an estimated4:36 five point four million people had died in Africa's world war. And countless women had been sexually assaulted as a military tactic. Now while control of the con... Congolese government is no longer in doubt, an enduring4:47 legacy of the conflict in the region is the use of rape as a weapon of war. But what sets Central Africa apart is a guy by the name of Doctor. Dennis McCoyagy. In nineteen ninety nine,5:00 there's a picture of him up there on the screen. In nineteen ninety nine, this French trained surgeon opened the Panzai Hospital in the country's most war torn region. Since its opening, the hospital has treated more5:10 than eighty five thousand patients with complex gynecological damage of trauma. An estimated sixty percent of injuries have been caused by sexual violence. McCwaigy, has been dubbed the man who mends5:22 women, is a ferocious critic of those who perpetrate sexual violence in the governments that stand idly by, as we all should be, by the way. Yeah. In September two thousand and twelve in a speech at the United Nations,5:31 he criticized the Congolese government and others for failing to stop what he called an unjust war that has used violence against women and rape as a strategy of war. Now his words struck a nerve, but they struck a nerve5:41 with his enemies. When he returned home, armed men, check this out, attacked his home, killing his bodyguard and taking his children hostage. He escaped and went into long exile, but and recovered from5:53 his injuries and then returned to the Congo two months later. Why does Mukegee run toward the danger when the sensible thing would be to run away from it? The answer, his Christian faith. His Christian faith.6:05 Mukegee is the son of a Pentecostal minister, and he was inspired to pursue medicine after watching his father pray for the sick, which is cool. Because we don't just pray for the sick. We also work for the healing of6:17 the sick, a proper Christian balance there. We don't just pray and say, okay. Don't take medicine. We actually pray and say, take medicine. Right? So, anyway, son of a Pentecost preacher, he gets his medical degree6:28 because he's inspired by his father's prayer for the sick. As his advocacy shows, his mission goes beyond medical care. Speaking before the Lutheran World Federation, he said, it is up to us, the heirs of Martin Luther,6:37 through God's word to exercise all the macho demons possessing the world so that women who are victims of male barbarity can experience the reign of God in their lives. McCoygi joins, someone6:48 else who I will not even try to pronounce their name as recent African Christians who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts in restoring what human sin and evil have broken. Award or no award, this6:59 is, as Muquakey puts it, the mission entrusted to us by Christ. Wow. We need some good news. Yeah. So give that man the Nobel Peace Prize.7:09 And they7:10 did. And they did. And I think that's just... That's that's really cool, you know, to hear something like that. Good... There is good news out there. There are people doing good in the name of Christ, all around the7:21 world. And so in a world, in a nation, and in a cultural conversation right now where it just seems like everything is bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, some good news for you. I'm pretty excited about that. I hope you are too.7:32 There are healers out there healing in the name of Jesus, and so we celebrate that. Well, I've got a question for you guys.7:38 Alright. Okay.7:39 Have you ever been judged? In general. Judged? Yeah. Judged. There's a long silence there. Have you ever been put down by somebody7:51 simply because they needed to feel better about themselves? I think that's where all judging comes from.7:55 You mean other than you, Pastor Tim?7:57 Since we started working here. Don't let the secrets out, guys. Have you ever been put down by someone because they just felt bad about themselves? Mean, it happens all the time. Right?8:07 Of course. I mean, mainly in high school, I remember that's like locker room talk, right, between guys just jabbing each other back and forth. But I can remember a couple specific times in high school where somebody8:17 puffed themselves up, looked better, and by putting me in8:20 the room. Just seems like it happens more and more and it's like, it's not going away. You know, I think that's the part of the political divide in this country too is just an opportunity to demonize one other segment of8:32 society so that we feel like we're right, therefore we are good.8:35 Yeah. It's like that high school bullying just evolves into something more8:39 Just goes with us.8:39 Matured. Yeah. I mean...8:41 Graduates high school with us, goes to college with us.8:43 And now it's into politics.8:44 Enters into the world political discussion. Yeah. Well, it it comes from the Garden of Eden. You know, the Garden of Eden is a is a is a composite of the human condition as a result of sin. First, the Garden of Eden,8:55 obviously, is a composite of what God has come to do for humankind, which is to create a place of peace, harmony, and protection so that he and they can dwell together in harmony and righteousness and peace. But then sin9:06 happens and, Adam and Eve, they listen to the serpent and they take the forbidden fruit. Right from that moment when God shows up, what do Adam and Eve get busy doing? They get busy blaming each other. And,9:19 it's actually kind of a funny moment because you can't read too far into the bible before you start cracking up a little bit because this is funny. It is kind of funny. God says, what did you do? And Adam says, well, the9:28 woman, you know, the woman that you gave me over here, I mean, you know, you made her. Right? I didn't think her up. That's your idea. She told me to eat this, you know, fruit, this... And many of the Jewish, historians9:39 believe it was a pomegranate. Mhmm. Not an apple.9:42 Okay.9:42 Really?9:42 Yeah. Pomegranate. Pomegranate is actually...9:44 Would you bite into a pomegranate?9:46 I wouldn't. Necessarily. But, again, maybe that's why it was forbidden.9:48 There you go.9:51 So the9:51 fish bite into all these little...9:52 Don't eat9:53 that fruit. Just eat9:53 all those seeds. They're gonna be nasty. Sour your stomach over there. Okay. Anyway, so he says, the woman you gave me, then God turns to the woman and what does she say? She doesn't take responsibility. She said, oh,10:05 the serpent. You know? By the way, you made the serpent too, God. So it's like all this blame game going on right there from the Garden of Eden, and this is not new. Like, our blame game society is not new. And10:17 so why am I bringing this up? Because it's two days after Columbus Day. Mhmm. Columbus Day, the annual... The formally formally an annual tradition celebrating America's heritage and the10:29 brave explorers who came across the Atlantic to found a new world based primarily in Christian principles. Mhmm. There's no doubt about it. The christ... Judeo Christian ethic influenced the founding of America in10:40 amazing, profound ways. Well, that's what it used to be. That's what Columbus Day used to be. Let's celebrate who we are as Americans. So today, Columbus Day is now another political argument.10:50 I'm offended. It's indigenous people's day.10:52 Exactly. Is it is it Columbus Day, or is it indigenous people's day? And and friends, that's what has me just a little bit... Here's a new segment, a little bit politic.11:08 I don't know I don't know how I feel about that graphic with my head exploding, but that's that's pretty cool. Yes. It worked. Alright. Politic. Let's get into politics. Okay. History is under assault. And11:20 by the way, all these segments, they're gonna point to where we're going in Revelation. Everything that we talk about hopefully will come full circle. So just bear with us if you're wondering where the Bible portion is11:28 today. It will come. But let's talk about this. Is it it Columbus Day, or should it be changed to indigenous people day? I remember, it was two years ago, my twelve year old son, Connor, he comes home from11:40 school, and without provocation, he says these words out of nowhere. He says, I don't think it should be called Columbus Day. I think it should be called indigenous people's day.11:49 He just made that up himself.11:50 Just came out of nowhere. Right. Yeah. Anyway, I just like... I hung my head and I began a conversation with both him and myself and then a personal search for truth. Like, what is the truth here? Because12:02 truth, as always, is under assault. No more has it ever... Has it been under assault than in the Internet age where any schmo can put up a12:14 news site, where anybody can post an opinion to Facebook, where anybody can say, this is what is factual historic reality, and there's there's no changing it. And and he can block comments, and he can stop12:26 people from changing it by, you know, correcting them. Mhmm. So we're living in a world where where where history is coming into, like, this redefinition, reinterpretation stage. And so boards of12:37 education around the country, and you need to be aware of this, parents, boards of education around the country are very busy rewriting and reinterpreting history according to a narrative very far removed from the one12:48 that matters to people of faith. The reason is our spiritual enemy, we all believe that we have a spiritual enemy Mhmm. Has successfully convinced educators that the Bible should be off limits, and things like hypnotism13:00 should be part of school school wide assemblies. Like, you you say this, Chris. You were a part of a school assembly with...13:05 At a Catholic high school, we had a hypnotist in...13:07 At a Catholic high school.13:09 Was known as the r rated hypnotist, came to a Catholic high school, hypnotized a bunch of people on stage, and...13:13 Were were the were the fathers a little bit, you know, off their game when they scheduled that week?13:17 They were all hypnotized when13:19 that happened. You had you13:21 had a hip... An r rated hypnotist come to your Catholic school?13:24 Yes. Frank Santos13:25 Was it an all boys school?13:27 It was not all boys. Oh my gosh.13:30 That that is very strange.13:31 Yeah. That's weird. Yeah. I remember that.13:33 So anyway, and my daughter, she was part of this assembly, the school wide assembly for hypnotism. And for those of you who have no problem with hypnotism and you're a Christian, I got news for you. You gotta watch out.13:45 You have gotta be careful. There is a spiritual realm out there, and you can't just open yourself up to these spiritual beings. You can't just open yourself up to mind control from other people. Are you nuts? Like, your13:55 own mind is bad enough. Okay? You don't need some other guy's mind controlling your mind. Right. Like,14:01 the human condition. This is... Somebody control me. Somebody control me. And then14:05 we shout about how we don't want anybody to control us. Nobody... I mean, it's like, you know, the paradox of the human condition. Anyway.14:11 Well, don't they say that? That you won't do anything that you wouldn't ordinarily do.14:14 I've heard that. But You know?14:16 Maybe. But still.14:17 I... I've been...14:17 Freaks me out.14:18 I've been on vacation where they have, like, the hypnotist and I'm sat in there and, like, it doesn't work, man. Like...14:23 Were you part of the experiment? Were you...14:24 Yeah. One of the time. Yeah. You know, you were in Mexico and whatever and and, like...14:28 So we should pray for you then. Yeah. You might have some demons.14:30 I was actually hypnotized.14:31 It didn't work, man. You know what is? I think I I think it just doesn't work on me.14:35 Yeah. Oh, okay. You gotta stop It worked on me. It worked on me. It worked on14:38 me. Yeah.14:40 Alright. Anyway, truth is under assault in our public education system. Let's take the Bible out. Let's put hypnotism in. And and we've exchanged reason in our in our educational process. We've exchanged reason and14:50 inquiry with ancient paganism. There... This is nothing new under the sun. All these new age and pagan is... You know, Reiki massage, spiritual mysticism, new age crystals, all that kind of... It's nothing new. This is15:01 what the gospel came and delivered us from. The Christian influence delivered us from pagan idolatry where we worship stones, trees, and mud. I mean, it's it's elevated us, and now we are taking the15:13 foundations of our country down, biblical values, Judeo Christian ethic, and we are going right back to where we came from.15:19 Yeah.15:20 Paganism. I mean, it's not progress, guys. It's regress. Where where is all this coming from? I I have a theory. I don't know if you guys are familiar with this. There's a book out there. It's called A People's History15:30 of the United States. Have you heard of this book? No. Written by Howard Zinn.15:33 Okay.15:33 He was a political science professor at Boston University. Anyway, he wrote a book. It's called A People's History of the United States. It was mentioned in Goodwill Hunting.15:41 Oh, cool.15:42 When when goodwill... No. Sorry. When when when Will Hunting goes to his therapist and he talks about how, you know, you gotta read this book, A People's History of the United States, it'll mess you up. Basically, all15:52 the, you know, all the things that we were taught in school to value and appreciate about our country's founding, should actually now excoriate. We should demonize. You know, Jefferson owned slaves and, you know,16:01 Washington was a Mason and yada yada yada. And all these... And we came in and we wiped out the indigenous people, and we took this land by force through Christian colonization. And and therefore, everything Christian16:12 and everything biblical, we should remove from our history because it's offensive. Right. So, you know, you get modern day moralistic crusades against Christopher Columbus. Mhmm. Vox dot com16:23 produced a very anti Columbus video. It's on YouTube. You can look it up. Basically making, Columbus an Italian bigot who enslaved and decimated countless indigenous peoples. He's only heralded a hero,16:35 this is according to Vox dot com, because nineteenth century Italian immigrants reimagined him into America's founder so they could be accepted into America who was at that time a little bit hostile to Italian16:46 immigrants. Crazy. Mhmm. Like, let's let's repaint history so that we can feel good about ourselves. That's what they're saying. That's what Vox is saying. But at the same time, Vox is now repainting history to make16:56 themselves look smart. It's just the human condition. We have to put someone down to make ourselves feel better about ourselves. Now I'm not here to make Christopher Columbus sound like a saint. He was not a saint, but17:08 he was brave. He was brave. Yeah. I mean, the guy who sailed across the Atlantic Ocean five hundred years ago with nothing but a compass on three small ships... By the way, do either of you know the three small ships17:17 names?17:18 Minta, the Nina. Nina, the pin pin... Pinta.17:22 Pinta. Santa Maria. Santa Maria. There you go. Bingo. Close. See, the impressionable minds get educated well right there if you teach them the truth. Right there. Josh had no clue because his mind is so17:34 strong.17:34 I was hypnotized.17:35 I I... Listen. That... I only study things that are in the scriptures, man.17:38 Oh, here we go. Here's the gun card. Okay. Alright. Anyway, he sails across the ocean. He's in this small, like, three ship, you know, fleet, if you will. And and now we're expected to believe17:50 that Columbus landed on shore, and with his small decimated crew who just sailed for months over the Atlantic Ocean on these three small ships, immediately takes out rifles and starts shooting indigenous people18:02 and slaving them. Yeah. That makes sense. It doesn't make any sense. I mean, and by the way, he did not happen to fall upon a land full of peace loving aboriginals as many historians rewriting18:14 history, experts would like to tell us. There were intertribal wars raging, and the life expectancy of the indigenous was very... Was extremely low. Yeah. The USA Today article that I read, it said this. Those who now18:26 question Columbus's... Those who now question Columbus conveniently ignore the fact that slavery, cannibalism, warfare, and even human sacrifice all existed in the Americas before18:37 he ever arrived. Yeah. Case in point, if you've ever seen the great movie by Mel Gibson18:43 So good. Apocalypto.18:44 Yeah. Man, that movie rocks. Don't watch it with your children. No. There is human sacrifice scenes in that movie. Fantastic movie. But it's about the Mayan kingdom coming to an end. They're decimated. They're they're18:55 war torn. They're fractured tribally, and they're killing each other. And and so to appease the gods, right back to paganism. Right? To appease the gods, they were sacrificing other tribes members on their altars,19:06 cutting off their heads. And, there's a scene of a head rolling down the set of stairs from the Mayan temples.19:11 Yeah.19:12 But, anyway, don't watch it with your kids. Back to Columbus. Far from exterminating entire indigenous people, The reality is, and and most historians should come to this conclusion if they're19:24 honest, the reality is both the indigenous and the European settlers did lose a majority of their populations, but not through warfare or enslavement, but through disease and intolerable living standards.19:35 You got to think about the cross pollination of people from a different continent coming to a new continent and a continent with different bacterias and different diseases and different, you know, you know,19:47 pathogens that would affect the human body. Like, for instance, even to this day, what do people say to us Americans when we're about to go overseas?19:55 Shots and stuff. Get your vaccines.19:56 Get your vaccines and and then what what what not to do when you get to that.19:59 Don't drink the water.20:00 Don't drink the water. When I went to El Salvador, you went to Guatemala. Yep. I Don't drink the water.20:04 Brushed my teeth with bottled water the whole time.20:06 Yeah. And don't eat... They told us in El Salvador, don't eat raw vegetables.20:10 Right. Because they wash it20:12 with water. They wash it with water, and, also, there's different bacteria. So, anyway, that decimated the European settlers and the indigenous people because you had these two opposite world, people groups coming20:23 together and creating this new, you know, bacterial atmosphere that did not work well for a long time. But, anyway, I'm not willing to sit here and let history be rewritten in order to demonize20:35 Christopher Columbus as some sort of Catholic genocidal maniac. I mean, we've got to we've got to be aware of it. Anyway, with my son that day, I took him on a tour, a little history tour, to20:47 the Black Legend. You ever read about the Black Legend?20:48 No. I haven't heard20:49 of that. The Black Legend is actually, and it's still completely up in the air about everything that happened, but the black legend was the work of non Spanish Europeans, mostly Dutch Europeans, at at odds with fifteenth21:01 century Spain over land that Spain had acquired from the Dutch, which they did not appreciate. So they hated Columbus because he was an Italian explorer sailing under a Spanish flag. And so,21:13 they demonized and they kind of like mythologized, Christopher Columbus's, you know, if you will, modern terminology, human rights violations against the indigenous people because they did not like21:24 Spain. And what we have to understand is when we read history, there are flawed people throughout history. So... And there's always gonna be these people who hate other people at the time that history is being made whoShow more
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