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Ep 0007 - Discover how Tyler Gunter balances faith, family, and multiple businesses on Main Street with purpose-driven leadership and mentorship.
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In this video 0:00 Finding Purpose Beyond Success31:04 Faith, Fellowship, and Leadership in Business
Finding Purpose Beyond Success 0:00 What happens when you retire at 31 thinking you've made it and then realize there's much more to working than just money? In this episode of Main Street Christian Capital shares his personal journey from depression0:12 back to purpose driven entrepreneurship, running multiple businesses while still staying present for his family. Lots of great lessons, so stay tuned.0:26 Welcome to the Christian Capitalist Show. I am your host, Russell Gray, and I'm here today with my good buddy, Tyler Gunter. And Tyler is a Main Street capitalist that I've known for a number of years and really didn't0:38 know he was a Christian in the beginning. But as I've gotten to know him, I've learned that he's a man of faith. So I wanna have a conversation today, Tyler. First of all, welcome to the show. Thank you.0:47 Yeah. I'm really excited to be here.0:48 Yeah. So, you know, you are kinda have an eclectic background, and you're gonna fill in some of the blanks even for me. So, I always like to start out with kinda where you are, and then we'll kinda backtrack about how0:59 you got from where you came from, you know, where you came from to where you are. But tell us just a little bit about your life and your business right now, you know, wife, kids, business. What are you into? What are you1:10 doing? What are you working on?1:11 Yeah. Absolutely. So first and foremost, I'm a I'm a husband and a father. That's the best job I've ever had in my life, and, it's where I focus, the majority of my attention. And that's why I do some of the other stuff
1:22 that I do now is to make sure that I'm there and I can and I can provide for them, but most importantly, that I'm there for them. And so we have, several different companies. Like you said, very eclectic. I I think of
1:34 myself more as a serial entrepreneur rather than a niche kinda guy. So we've got radio stations in Nevada. We've got insurance companies. We've got a roofing company here in the Phoenix Valley
1:46 that we focus on. We're launching a brand new company that'll be nationwide on Black Friday. I'm super excited about that 1. It's called encourage brand dot com, and it's whispers and messages
1:58 from God and just messages based on Ephesians 4 29 and that message of letting everything out of your mouth before his glory and the the betterment of people and the uplifting of
2:10 people. So that one's more of a passion project for me and a partner of mine. Very, very excited about. We have credit card processing company that we do things for, several different things, but, all designed around
2:22 being the best husband and father that I can do. And, of course, real estate, that's how you and I got to to meet each other years ago. We've got a background in that too, but just exited my last property there. So we're
2:32 still looking for
2:32 the next 1. Wow. Well, you know, I think for a lot of people and I just look at myself when I was a young man, first came to Christ at about 21 years old, I believe, or
2:44 22 shortly thereafter, first child and then I got busy just trying to make a living figure it out and I had a job. I was a commission paid sales guy so it kind of felt like I was entrepreneurial
2:56 and I had a chance to develop some skills but it's very mono Single point, I either had a job or I didn't.
3:01 Mhmm.
3:02 And even though my income fluctuated, it was I was very dependent upon 1 thing. And I I dreamed about, like, how can I get out? How can I have more time with my family? Have more upside in my income? How can I have a
3:14 chance to create equity? I started a business when I was very young, with with a family member, and I was able to exit and make a little bit of money. But I I didn't quite figure it out the way you figured it out. So I'm
3:25 I'm just curious, because you've you seem like you figured out how to have all these different business interests, base your business out of your home, spend time with your children, and yet
3:38 how how did you get from where you started? Where have you where did you start? Like, when you're 18 years old, you're an adult now, how did you go from there to here? Yeah. So,
3:51 I used to say that by accident, but I've learned over time that it it wasn't by accident. It was by choice. And so going back, I I found Christ in my early teens and,
4:03 I was in a Christian punk rock band, sometimes oxymoron almost sounding, but we toured up and down, the the West Coast and played a lot of shows up in Oregon and Washington and California and had a lot
4:15 of fun. And that was my passion, and I kind of managed the books of the group. I managed the business, if you will, for the band. Right? Bootstrapped. We only we only survived on the the
4:27 sales of our merchandise as we went up and down. We didn't get paid to play these gigs. We were the we were the openers for the closers, and so we didn't get a whole lot of anything. But I found a passion in that. It was
4:36 a lot of fun, getting creative, figuring it out. And, in the meantime, my dad had given me the the little purple book. Right? Everybody's got a purple book story Okay.
4:45 For Robert Kiyosaki. Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki.
4:48 Yeah. And so I read the book, and I didn't fully conceptualize it at the time, but I I liked the idea. So I I kept telling people, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be in business. I'm going to I'm gonna be in real estate, but I
4:59 didn't know how to explain that to people. They're like, oh, you're gonna be a realtor. I'm like, no. That's not what I'm gonna do. But I couldn't quite figure it out. So just watching and learning from the people around
5:11 me that I saw. I saw my uncle who was owning and operating radio stations. My dad at the time had lost his job. He spent 30 years climbing the corporate ladder, as as I've heard you say in the past. Like, realized it was
5:22 on the wrong wall, got to the wrong roof, and then had to restart and reset and and didn't really know how to do that. And so dad and I started a couple of small companies, bought a company. All of them
5:34 failed miserably and and for the best reasons. Right? So I got to learn that process all the way through. And then I found out that my wife and I were having twins. And
5:45 we we had always talked. Right? I was I was working at a great job. She was working in insurance. She had a great job. Realized we were having twins and our whole world, what we had planned kinda blew up. We're like,
5:57 man, like, okay. We thought we're gonna have 1 kid. We could afford childcare. We're gonna have 2. What does this look like? And we immediately went to like, we have to replace your income so you can stay home with the
6:08 kids. We had to figure this out. And it just was the the gas pedal that that did it. Reached out, found a mentor group, started taking action. 1 1 rental unit turned into a
6:20 portfolio purchase later that year, and suddenly we were in business. And then we had to figure it out. Once I got a taste for running a business, because I didn't think of it as investing. It really was a job for me
6:31 running the investments. Once I got a taste for that, then the rest is history. Like, I I enjoyed the acquisition process, and I didn't decipher between real estate or a business, both of
6:43 which in my mind was the same process. You do the due diligence. You figure it out. You put a team in place so that it's not completely taking my time the entire time, and then you roll on and start doing the next 1. So
6:53 Yeah.
6:53 It's it's interesting that you bring that up because you and I we met when I was co hosting the Real Estate Guys radio show, and we spent a lot of time obviously talking about real estate investing. But when the jobs act
7:04 came, we saw the opportunity for, raising capital, raising private capital. So we really began to focus our business on training people on raising capital. And, of course, it was real estate centric because we were the
7:16 real estate guys. But I always saw I felt a much bigger opportunity to raise capital to purchase businesses. To your point, it's kind of the same thing. If you really understand real estate, real estate's a business. If
7:27 you run it like a business, an income property, you get a management team, you're running an asset. It's a simple business, but it's still a business. But you can use those same principles to raise capital and purchase,
7:37 acquire small businesses. And I think right now where we're at in the cycle in terms of baby boomers vacating businesses that they've had, with the rise of AI and social media,
7:49 the opportunity to take those businesses kind of with a fresh outlook to the next level. I think there's a big, big opportunity on Main Street right now. Are are you seeing that as well?
7:59 Yeah. Absolutely. And as a matter of fact, the insurance industry that we got into is exactly that scenario. A baby boomer who was almost ready to transition out had no succession plan, no kids that wanted to take it
8:09 over, anything like that, and was still kind of operating, didn't didn't wanna come up into the new level. He'd already upgraded multiple times throughout his 30 years of running it and didn't want to go through
8:21 that process again. So we worked out a deal with him. We came in. We were able to implement new software, new technology, even upgrading phones as simple as that is sometimes, right, with auto assistance and things like
8:32 that that come in and and completely change the dynamics and the and the profitability of a company. But it's just it's just becoming 1 more thing, like, oh, 1 more transition we have to go through, 1 more that we have
8:43 to do. And with nobody coming in behind them, like, they're actually looking for guys like us Yeah. To come in and try and help them out, help them exit, and keep their their baby alive. Right? This
8:55 is something they've poured their heart, their tears into for 30 years, and they don't wanna just shut it down. But they also don't want it to just be status quo. They want somebody to come in who's gonna love it and
9:04 care for it and take it to that next level.
9:06 Yeah. I think the lesson there is that when a lot of people think about having a business or starting a business, they think about starting from scratch. They think about having to start from ground 0, or they go buy a
9:18 franchise.
9:19 Right.
9:20 And, you know, there's some things to be said for franchise, but, you know, if you're a true entrepreneur, sometimes you you chafe a little bit under the rules and regulations, and and and ultimately, when you get it
9:30 figured out, you're like, what am I paying for again?
9:32 Exactly. Exactly.
9:33 Franchise. Yeah. I'm not putting it down. And And I'm saying that if you're gonna start a business, like, from scratch, it's probably better to do it with that.
9:40 It's it's like having a coach when you're early on. Right? If you're gonna if you're gonna start from scratch and you're gonna build it up, a franchise might be a great opportunity because you have a a a built in
9:49 process, a built in coach built in something. You learn that process, now you can take that and implement it into any other industry, any other business, and build it out. So Yeah.
9:58 Well, I I think and there's a lot of parallels. The reason I started the Christian Capitalist Show is I feel like there's so many parallels between discipleship. And I think the church is
10:10 the ultimate model for human development. Right? God created the concept of a family. He created the church as a family and that you develop people in that you mentioned right at the
10:21 beginning, you read the purple book. Right? Rich dad, poor dad decide, hey, I wanna do this and you went and found a mentor. You became part of a community or a club, you know, mentoring program and then
10:33 probably and you tell me through the relationships you ended up finding deals and getting
10:38 Oh, absolutely.
10:38 Yeah. Yeah. And then having that lifeline, you know, when hey, I don't know what to do and you you short answer. I'd if you got a number of problems you gotta solve to get to whatever the next level of success is, the
10:48 faster you can answer those questions, the quicker you get to that next level of success. A lot of people wander in a circle and they don't ever have the right people to get the right answers. So how has the
11:00 you know, you started with that concept of of having a mentor and, how has that grown? I mean, you're a lot further down the path. Do you still have an advisory board or mentors or masterminds?
11:12 Or is that still part of your development?
11:14 Yeah. Absolutely. So always I will always have somebody who's further down the path than I am leading my leading my way or somebody that I can rely on. I've got a couple of those people in my life now that we get
11:25 together a couple times a year. We sit in a room. There's only 10 of us. A lot of times now, interestingly, it's less about business and more about mindset and and and and self
11:37 healing, if you will. The business comes along with it. Right? And we get to talk about that, and we get to share where we're stuck and where we need help and where we can grow. And we share personal discoveries, if you
11:49 will, along the way, but it's more about healing ourselves internally at this point for me. But I I can't imagine a time in my life even 30
12:01 years from now where I wouldn't be seeking somebody who's been further down the road. Like, you and I have laughed about this in over the last few days, especially where, you know, you've seen things that I can only
12:13 imagine. Right? And and and so I can look to you and be like, hey, Russ. Like, here I am at this stage of my life. Here I am at this stage of my company. Do you have any experience? And and you're either gonna be like,
12:23 oh, yeah. I've absolutely. And here's here's some lessons I've learned. Here's some things to watch out for. Here's the blessings that are coming. Or you're gonna be like, I haven't, but I know somebody. And I'm gonna
12:32 put you in touch. I'm gonna connect you to that person because they've absolutely experienced that. Who wants to go at it alone? Well, I I
12:40 you know, sadly, I do think some people are like that. You know, Kiyosaki we've been talking about wrote that book why a students work for c students and I think our educational system tends to produce people who think
12:52 that they have to know everything have all the answers and it's business when you get out in the real world, unlike, you know, my short stint in corporate America where it's a little
13:03 bit competitive. There's limited opportunity and everybody's vying for 1 of those offices in the corner. And instead, you are creating abundance and you're doing it through collaboration
13:16 and helping each other. I I always create I call them alliances, you know, there's networking groups. I know you run a networking group. I think there's, you know, leads groups where people get together and they're part
13:25 of a referral network and then sometimes it gets the next level up and you really get to know each other's business. And then what I advocate is actually creating these alliances where you create a cooperative marketing
13:36 initiative. You go out there and attract clients together as a group, you invest together in that marketing and then when people come in to to the to the, alliance whichever door they come in, whichever
13:48 product or service they're most interested in then the salespeople, everybody in the alliance are trained to be able to do a good diagnosis and move people through the network and it's a better service to the
14:00 client. It is a better ROI on the marketing dollar. It takes a lot more work to build those alliances. It really built on, understanding and relationships and trust. But once you get it built, it's like
14:11 building a company that's just doing nothing but marketing. Now you're involved in a lot of different stuff. I don't know that that works because, you know, I always look for things that all align. Is there a common
14:21 theme with everything that you're doing, or is it just kinda whatever you're interested in?
14:25 Yeah. So so 2 things. I I can answer that real quick. The the common theme is building systems and and empowering people and teams. That's the common theme. I'm in I'm in several different industries and several
14:36 different things. And maybe maybe not all of them support each other, but the common the commonality between that is is empowering a team that wants to grow and push and build.
14:45 So this becomes your core competency. That's your
14:48 core. Exactly. Yeah. When people ask me what I do for a living, it's like I build teams and empower them, and I and I lift them up and put them in a position where they can be their best selves inside of something
14:58 really, really cool. In respect to what you were talking about building alliances, I can do that in each individual company. Absolutely. When you talk about that, I think about the the restoration company that we're
15:09 partnered with, with the painting company we're partnered with, with the flooring company. And what's better than having me or my partner Jason in our roofing company be the best salespeople in the world is having a
15:18 sales team that goes out. Like, this morning, I had somebody who called me and said, hey, Tyler. My neighbor's house just caught on fire. It unfortunately started burning our house. The fire department was able to put it
15:29 out, but, hey. Do you do fire restoration? Like, I don't. I don't. But I do have the best person you wanna talk to in my Rolodex who's a partner inside of our group that we've worked multiple jobs with. We
15:41 trust them. Which is also very important. And when I reach out to them and say, hey, guys. This is my friend who needs your help. I know exactly the level of service they're gonna get. I know exactly the way they're
15:50 gonna present to them, and I know they're gonna take care of it. And it's going to be not only a great relief that they've gotten the the level of service that they need in a time that really is kind of a a crummy time,
16:01 but they've got it, but also that they're gonna they're gonna know that I was there to help them. It's gonna build my brand, my company up even though we're not the ones out there doing the service. And then not only
16:13 that, now I've got a partner inside of this that the next time they're out there and they're like, oh, man. This this roof is damaged from the fire this other job, we're gonna get the return business right away. And
16:21 they're the best salesperson I've got out there in the field because they're in front of my client in a time of need, and I'm the trusted referral that's coming out.
16:28 And the next level up, the way I teach it is those people have an allocation in their budget from that sale that gets made, and they put that into the marketing alliance coop, and then you use
16:40 it to go collectively grow your your entire network or the the number of clients that are all sharing kind of in that service. The other advantage that I found is that when you get as a client, when you get
16:52 referred through somebody like that, if you just call somebody in off the street, you're a 1 off person. And so if they don't give you great service, it's like, well, you're a 1 off person. And today in the age of
17:04 social media, even a 1 off sale has a lot of clout. But when you are being sent in by somebody who is a regular source of business, if you don't do a good
17:16 job, that person is gonna stop doing the the referrals. So there's a lot of pressure in that alliance for for the for everybody in there to do a great job. They're kind of accountable to each other.
17:25 We're all holding each other to a higher standard every single job, every single thing that we do together. Right? And so, yeah, we're all lifting each other up as
17:32 we go. Nice. Well, so, you know, this is about Christian capitalism and Main Street capitalism. I make the distinction Main Street is is people creating real goods and
17:44 services in the real world and serving real people and you might think well isn't all capitalism that? Well no it's not because there are people who just trade claims on other people's wealth and so they trade but they
17:56 don't actually produce anything. And I I, you know, I don't wanna put those people down but if everybody did that there wouldn't be any goods and services. There would just be a lot of claims. And so it's very important
18:05 that you have people that are out there actually producing and and creating claims. But the other part of it that I call with Main Street Capital is purpose driven. In other words, what does it change you wanna be in the
18:17 world and why are you doing the business? And then the other side of it is balance. So I always like to talk about both of those because they seem to be the 2 areas, entrepreneurs struggle in especially on the balance
18:28 side once you get going. But let's start on the purpose side. When you think about, and I think I know the answer but I wanna hear you say it and I could be wrong. But when you think about what makes you get up in the
18:39 morning every day and take on the challenges, entrepreneurism is the business of taking on challenges with the faith that you can and that you'll figure it out. You don't always know. Sometimes it doesn't look doable or
18:51 easy, but you figure it out. Right? But but what drives you besides the money?
18:57 Yeah. So originally, it was the money. Right? That's what I thought I was chasing, and I chased it and I chased it. And then you get it 1 day. Tamara and I are blessed. We've we've we've done well in life. And at about
19:08 31, I took some time off. I took a couple years off thinking that we had retired. We'd hit the the pinnacle. We had what we needed. We had a a great life. And then I realized that, you know, my
19:20 kids are in school. They need me, but they don't need me 24 7. My wife definitely doesn't want me 24 7. Right, and my friends are are out hustling. They're building their things or they're working for other
19:32 people. And so I thought, you know, we're gonna be golfing. We're gonna be traveling. I was gonna have my little umbrella on the beach. And it's just That
19:39 was a hard time for you as
19:40 I recall. It was a hard time for me. I, I actually I I slipped backwards quite a bit. I I I lost purpose. I lost I
19:52 lost a lot of my own self worth in that time, even to the point where I I my wife was saying, hey. You gotta go do something. You gotta you gotta we were looking at a house. We thought maybe we were gonna open a
20:04 school for our kids, and I'm showing up in in, you know, 3 days unshowered in my sweats to this this property that we're looking at, and she's just kinda looking at this man who's showing up who isn't
20:16 isn't really her husband, a shell of a shell of the man that he was, or that he could be. And, it was it was kind of with her encouragement. They're like, hey. Like, reach out. Go
20:27 do something. And I'm like, well, I I don't know. I didn't even think I could go sell cars, honestly, in in that time. Near the end, I didn't even think I had that much worth in my life. Not discrediting car
20:39 salesman, but I'm a pretty good salesman. Like, there's no reason why I couldn't go stand on a lot and and and deal a couple transactions. And, it was it was a tough time for me. And
20:51 so it's it's the purpose. It's it's the families that we're serving. Right? The my team members. That's why I get up. It's their families that I know are relying on somebody to lead the
21:03 ship, and it's the people we serve. Literally, it's it's how we serve them and making sure that we're there to take care of them. We owe it to our
21:14 clients to be profitable, to be a good company because let let's again, take the roofing industry, for example. If I go replace a roof today, we've had some major storms in the last couple days here in the valley. I go
21:26 replace a roof today. What good does it do that client if the company that installed their roof 3 months from now goes insolvent for poor choices Yeah.
21:36 What good is it worth doing?
21:37 There's no warranty anymore. Right? There's there it's you you could have hired a check-in a truck for for what I would be able to give you if I don't get up and have a desire to grow, pursue, and be around for them in
21:49 the future. Now that doesn't mean I wanna run a roofing company for the next 30 years. Maybe it's the next 5 or 10, and we turn it over to somebody who has the next passion, the next level to go to somebody who wants to
21:59 skip the start up, or maybe it's 1 of our team members who's building it up, and we're gonna bring them in and slowly into, to bring them into Make their entrepreneurial dream
22:09 come true.
22:09 Yeah. And teach teach them the back end because so many people, like, the the the Michael Gerber book, the E Myth. Right? So many people go out there and like, I can do this. I'm gonna do this, and they're they're
22:19 incredible technicians. They're absolutely the best in their field, and they have no idea what a balance sheet or a profit and loss looks like. They have no idea about cash flow. We've seen it in real estate investing
22:30 too where guys go out and they they understand the concept. They can they can look at a property and they can understand where it's gonna make money, and then they get in behind the scenes, and they don't understand how
22:39 to manage the cash flow behind it. Right? And that's a lot of what what you had you had taught over the years, too. And so for me, it's literally getting up with that purpose of serving.
22:51 How did you come through that process? Right? You're at the pit. You you're you're not feeling valuable because you're not being useful. I mean, in in the beginning it's just a feeling and
23:03 you don't really under how did you kinda diagnose it? And then once you diagnosed what it was, how did you figure out how to lift yourself up out of that and get back on track?
23:14 A lot of it had to do with my faith and a lot of prayer and quiet time in just asking. A lot of it had to do with my relationship with my wife. Right? Rather than rather than come
23:26 at me and and tell me all the areas she's seeing where I'm not showing up as as a faithful husband, as a as a great father, as as a leader in our house and in our businesses. She didn't come at
23:38 me accusationally. She came at me inquisitively concerned and curious. And then that helped me see the awareness. That didn't necessarily flip the
23:49 switch to resolve it, but it helped me see the the awareness of it. Like, okay. There's something going on here. How do I resolve this? And that's where your mentoring group, your your core group of friends come in. This
24:00 is where you seek guidance through others. I I I had a I have 1 of the best friends in the world who had been through this, and he he he reminded me, like, you grow weary in the waiting. And and
24:12 we sat on that verse for a while 1 time for probably about an hour and a half. I was out for a walk, and we just talked about that and how he had been through that when he sold his first company. So I guess this is
24:20 that's that's important. We had sold 1 of our companies, and the other ones were on autopilot. And I kinda felt like I didn't have a purpose. I didn't have anything to do. And so he helped me
24:32 kind of walk back along that path. He's like, look. Here's here's your value. Right? It's funny. Like, you need somebody else to show you your value sometimes, but it's really easy for us to forget it when we go through
24:43 a a shakeup or an upset. Literally ran me through an exercise like, hey, man. Write down write down what Tyler can bring to the world and and go through that exercise. I had a big
24:55 whiteboard, and I just started writing down. And I I wrote everything I could think of, and then I invited my wife in. And I said, Tamara, like, what am I missing? What do you think? And she listed off another bunch of
25:04 them. And then I call up my friend again. I'm like, hey, man. Here's here's where I went. He's like, well, what about this? What about this? What about this? And reminds you of your value and your worth. Yeah. And then
25:15 you can that's that's that first step. That's that, like, that that get me up to get you into the next room, and then you have to seek growth. You have to con you always have to seek growth. You always have to be
25:26 curious. You always have to be a learner. Yeah.
25:29 You know, I've over the years, I've concluded some common traits. I've seen it. I feel like the most successful people and, you know, I've been blessed to hang around a lot of very successful
25:41 people. But the common denominators tend to be that they're humble, they're curious, and they're generous. And so I think I hear you saying that. And then in this show, the kind of the theme
25:53 of the Christian Capitalist show, what I had come in believing from my own life experience and what I'm finding out as I do these interviews is it comes down to a few core
26:04 things. We talked about faith, purpose, fellowship, and balance. And then I think the purpose part to me
26:16 it all starts with purpose. And some people think well, I guess you could say it has to start with faith, but the way I teach purpose is you have to start with a premise. And the premise is either you're an accident
26:28 or you're a creation. Right? You gotta pick 1. Right? 1 of the 2 is true. You may not be able to prove either 1, you know, may you may not be able to win a scientific argument but but But you have to believe 1. You gotta
26:39 pick 1. You gotta pick 1 that you're gonna believe in. I choose when I look at creation to believe in that I'm I'm a divine creation. God created me presumably for a purpose that's the only thing that makes sense and
26:49 then you go through this whole exercise of how do you discover what the purpose is and so it takes faith to begin to move forward on that and you know Psalm 37 4 and 5 says, delight yourself in the Lord and he will give
27:00 you the desires of your heart which to me is mean he will give you passion. He'll give you things that you want to do and then as you begin to do those things, you say yes and no to things based on principles
27:12 And then providentially, you meet people, things happen, opportunities come, and you kinda rattle those doorknobs and see where it goes. So it's not a clear path. Right? It's never he says, I'll stand behind you.
27:22 There'll be a voice behind you, not in front of you. You can't see him. He's just behind you going, this is the way walk in it. So, let's talk about balance. Right? We you talked about the role of fellowship. Obviously,
27:33 fellowship, mentorship, super super important faith, super important purpose, super important. Proverbs 31 wife super super important critical. My late wife died I thought to myself well how am I
27:45 gonna get by? Fortunately God brought another woman in my life is exactly what I needed and so it's fantastic But 1 area that I felt like I didn't do a good job with
27:57 and I feel like our family is suffering the ramifications of that today is balance. How do you deal with balance as a guy that has a ton of responsibility?
28:08 Yeah. So at first, I didn't do it well. And I think you can relate to this. Right? You give it everything, and and everything you do is justified through the lens of I'm doing this for my
28:20 family. I'm doing this for them. I'm giving them what I never had. I'm giving them what they want. Right?
28:26 And But not what they need.
28:27 But not what they need. Right? So I I said earlier, I said, I realized real quick that my kids don't need me there 24 7, but they do need me there. Right? We need to we need to be a big part of our kids' lives. We need
28:39 to be their their role models, their leadership. We need to lead by example through that.
28:44 Right. They need to see you be productive. They do. Right. See you live your purpose.
28:47 Right. And more more is caught than taught when it comes from as dads. Right? Our kids see us doing things. I need to be caught in prayer. I need to be caught going to church. I need to be caught in silent meditation. I
28:59 need to be caught reading the Bible. There's things that you need to be caught because if I just tell them to do it or I say this is what you should be doing, they're more inclined to do what they see me do Yeah. Versus
29:08 so it's it's critical it's a critical non option for me to be home, to be present with my kids, and for them to see me interacting in my companies and doing my thing. So I invite them along on on trips.
29:20 I discuss. We have the school they attend is is a 60 mile round trip every day, twice a day. So I get I get 1 round trip with my kids. My wife gets the other round trip with our kids, and
29:32 we talk about what's going on in the day, what's going on in the businesses, what's happening, what I'm dealing with, what my struggles are, what my failures are, all of that. But the only reason that I can do that is
29:43 because I have incredible teams and I have incredible processes in place to do that. I have incredible reporting. And I know I know your your daughter is outstanding in this queen. She's
29:55 outstanding in this field. We've had conversations around it. You know, what what are your critical numbers? What do you have to know in order to know what the health of your company is? Right? And you have to not just
30:06 have those systems, but you have to have a process for reviewing them, and then you have to have a process for action around them with if if then what? If this is this, then what do I do? And it's gotta be quick and
30:17 simple. Otherwise, you're gonna spend a lot of time putting out fires, solving problems that don't need to exist, and and moving things around instead of moving things up and elevating other people around you. Yeah. So
30:28 systems, processes, and the right people in the right seats, on the bus. There's a great book out, Energy Bus, that's out there that illustrates it so well, and it's such a simple read. But it's
30:40 like, if you don't have the right person in the right seat on the bus, then then you're not gonna go anywhere near where you're trying to achieve. And you're gonna spend a lot of time shuffling seats
30:52 or people, rather than building up and serving your your client base and your team. Yeah. Because that's part of the the job of the leader too is to serve your team.
31:02 Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, what I hear you saying is the the importance of being proactive, putting yourself in a position to be in front of the problems,Show more
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