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Remembering "Dilbert" Creator Scott Adams
January 13, 2026 · 38 min
In the 1990s, Scott Adams famously satirized white collar cubicle culture with Dilbert. Over the past decade, he became famous for his astute analysis of the Trump phenomenon and wider society. The show team memorializes him with some favorite comic strips and talks about his deathbed acceptance of Christianity. John Carney assesses President Trump's tariff policies and what the Supreme Court might rule on them tomorrow. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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In the 1990s, Scott Adams famously satirized white collar cubicle culture with Dilbert. Over the past decade, he became famous for his astute analysis of the Trump phenomenon and wider society. The show team memorializes him with some favorite comic strips and talks about his deathbed acceptance of Christianity. John Carney assesses President Trump's tariff policies and what the Supreme Court might rule on them tomorrow. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. ...more Show the full description Show less In the 1990s, Scott Adams famously satirized white collar cubicle culture with Dilbert. Over the past decade, he became famous for his astute analysis of the Trump phenomenon and wider society. The show team memorializes him with some favorite comic strips and talks about his deathbed acceptance of Christianity. John Carney assesses President Trump's tariff policies and what the Supreme Court might rule on them tomorrow. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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0:03 My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the0:15 most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your0:27 kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA high school chapter. Go find out how your church0:36 can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord MuseMe.0:48 Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the1:00 leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers.1:09 Alright. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is January thirteenth 20 26. We are here in studio. I'm Andrew Colvin, executive producer of this show joined by Blake Neff, the 11:21 and only Blake Neff. And today, we mourn the loss of another great American, and that is Scott Adams. I just, saw that, JD Vance actually just tweeted something, moments before we1:33 came on the air. Scott Adams was a true American original and great ally to the President of the United States and the entire administration. My prayers go to Scott and all of you who loved him. We lost 1 of the good1:43 ones, but we'll never forget him. Yeah, it's sad A
1:47 lot of newspaper comic artists are not going to get a tribute like that. Don't think you remember when Charles Schulz died?
1:54 I do, but just vaguely. Yeah, that
1:58 was the Peanuts guy, of He was a great American icon, that's the only 1 I can really think of that's come from.
2:02 Yeah, mean, so Scott Adams, of course, created Dilbert in 19 89, and he it was incredible because, you know, obviously, we were too young to kind
2:14 of understand, you know, I was too young, Blake wasn't even born yet, you know, was too young to understand this rise of corporate culture and workplace cubicle culture, and he gave voice
2:26 through this comic to the quiet frustrations of working men and women that were working their way up
2:31 middle man and But also, was deeply funny It
2:34 was deeply funny. It was the hapless engineer protagonist, as it was described, and a bunch of dysfunctional colleagues. And, you know, it was a cultural phenomenon. It became a cultural phenomenon that people would talk
2:46 about at the workplace or at the water cooler or when they're getting coffee at work, you know? And that's why he ultimately created Coffee with Scott Adams. It was originally called Real Coffee with Scott Adams, and it
2:58 became a phenomenon that many people tuned into daily. And to just get a dose of his, you know, his contrarian thinking, he had a unique blend of insight, humor, wit,
3:09 and optimism. He was an optimist. He genuinely was. And he was 1 of the first people to sort of take President Trump seriously, 1 of the first mainstream people to take President Trump seriously. And
3:21 he paid politically for that, and he paid in his career for that as well. A lot of papers around the country ended up removing Scott Adams, Dilbert cartoon from their Yeah. And they you
3:33 know, and here's what they'll do. By the way, this is what they're gonna do is the same thing that they did with Charlie is they're going to cherry pick a few things that Scott maybe said or take it out of context.
3:44 They're gonna, like, remove all the other context and say that Scott Adams was this bad person or whatever. No, Scott Adams was great American.
3:52 Was a man in the arena, just like Charlie. Yeah. Where, oh, if you go out there and say things, oh, there's a risk someone might not like what you say, you might be inarticulate at some point. It's just disgusting. I
4:01 want us to throw up this is, 1 of my favorites. Let's put up, 2 49. This is just you didn't have comics like this before or not comics. Could you I'll read
4:10 it for
4:10 us so we can it's the pointy haired boss talking to Dilbert. My boss says we need some Unix programmers. I think he means Unix, not Unix. I already and I already know Unix.
4:22 If the company nurse drops by, tell her I said never mind.
4:26 The company nurse?
4:27 I don't think I don't think you would've see you would not have seen a comic strip like I keep saying, yeah, a comic strip like that in
4:33 It was it was cathartic. It was it was syndicated worldwide, by the way. That's what's amazing about it. Syndicated worldwide. So it was a phenomenon of the workplace that emerged in the eighties and nineties, probably
4:45 in the seventies. And what people also probably don't know about Scott is he authored a bunch of best selling books on persuasion, systems thinking, personal success.
4:57 Really great guy. I actually talked to Scott on the phone. I never met him in person. I talked to him on the phone a couple times. I was on the phone with Scott and Charlie, believe it or not. We were talking about maybe
5:08 getting him on the show, how we could work together, nothing ended up coming of those conversations. But you know, Scott did honor Charlie when Charlie was killed. We
5:20 did,
5:20 we have that clip. Let's make sure we have the right 1 here because there were a few yeah so this was he was on Tucker's program shortly after and he was commenting on it. So this is I can't imagine Adams ever
5:32 thought he would outlive Charlie, but this is what he had to say clip 2 39.
5:37 When Charlie Kirk died, you could almost feel this massive energy being released. You know, he he sort of controlled it, but when it
5:49 was released, you know, his his mortal coil was no more. I feel like that energy just went into people. And suddenly tens of millions of people
6:01 simultaneously said, what can I do? What can I do right now? That's different. People don't say, I'm gonna stop everything. Tell me what to do. I'm gonna
6:13 go to church. A lot of people did. I'm going to say stuff on social media. I'm going to hunt down the people who said bad things and cancel them. But I'm going to do something. We're going to figure
6:25 out how to start another chapter of TP USA. And all of that's happening and it doesn't seem to be slowing down, the vigils, etcetera.
6:37 If anything, the energy, it might be growing. And I've never seen anything like it in my life. I've never seen the Republicans turn into their own machine. And now it is a
6:49 And what's most important, I think, as well, is that Scott was wrestling with his own mortality towards the end. You know, C. S. Lewis would talk about how a soldier in a foxhole actually, you
7:01 know, because he was reflecting on World War I, he was a veteran of World War I and he was doing a lot of his writings and his thinking in World War II. And he said that it can be a blessing to be faced with your own
7:12 mortality and to understand that you, as a soldier, you might die and to confront the Almighty and to make peace. And Scott was sort of that soldier on a field in a cultural sense, in a media
7:24 sense, and he was staring down the sickness. He had metastatic
7:28 prostate Prostate cancer that spread to his bones.
7:30 Yeah, and so he was dealing with the fact that he knew he was probably gonna die. Said it, I'm going
7:36 We're all going to die.
7:37 Yes, but imminently, right? And so and that could be a real blessing. And so Scott was wrestling with his own mortality and was never a believer, was never a a Christian. He had great respect for Christians, but he was
7:48 not himself. And so we have 2 clips where he himself was describing this, 2 37.
7:54 Many of my Christian friends and Christian followers say to me, Scott, do you still have time? You should convert to Christianity. And I usually just
8:06 let that sit because that's not an argument I wanna have. I've not been a believer. And but I also have respect for any Christian
8:17 who goes out of their way to try to convert me because how would I believe you to believe your own religion if you're not trying to convert me? So I have great respect for
8:29 people who care enough that they want me to convert and then go out of their way to try to convince me. So you're gonna hear for the first time today
8:41 that it is my plan to convert.
8:44 That's a very Scott Adams way to do it.
8:47 It's such an I'm a tech artist kind of guy.
8:49 Exactly. Like an engineer, you know, doing it, in only the way he can. And my word to everybody that's like, you know, that might think that, you know, this isn't
9:01 that's not an authentic way to convert. I would just say everybody's different. God makes us in mysterious ways. I actually the last DM I sent to Scott was the parable of the workers in the vineyard, and we wanted to
9:12 read this really quick. For the kingdom of heaven is like the landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. He agreed to pay them a denarius for the day and sent them into his vineyard.
9:23 About 9 in the morning, he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. He told them, you also go and work in my vineyard and I will pay you whatever is right. So they went. He went out again about
9:32 noon and about 3 in the afternoon and did the same thing. About 5 in the afternoon he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, why have you been standing here all day doing nothing? Because no 1
9:41 has hired us, ' they answered. He said to them, you also go and work in my vineyard.' When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, 'Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last
9:51 ones hired and going to the first.' The workers who were hired about 5 in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more, but each 1 of them also
10:01 received a denarius. When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. These who were hired last worked only 1 hour, they said, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of work for
10:13 the heat of the day. But he answered to them, I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn't you agree to work for a denarius? Take your pay and go. I want to give the 1 who has hired last the same as I gave you.
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11:37 I want to finish reading that scripture, but I'm just I have to share this. This is really upsetting me. I just was sent this, and this is how People Magazine is choosing
11:48 to remember Scott Adams. Scott Adams, disgraced Dilbert creator, dies at 68.
11:56 That's disgusting. There it is. Disgrace?
12:00 But I'm telling you, this is the exact same playbook. Parasites.
12:04 Can you take the Enemies of the people.
12:06 The banner off the bottom there for a second so people can see it. Yeah. So Scott yeah. Scott Adams disgraced Dilbert creator dies at 68. Dilbert was pulled from wide circulation after Adams racist rant
12:18 in 20 23. It's such a garbage thing to do to somebody. And, you know, this is what they did with Charlie. It's the same exact playbook where you know they take something that Charlie said out of
12:30 context about black pilots or Martin Luther King and they strip it of all of the buildup all of the the context.
12:37 It's just hateful garbage.
12:38 And then and then they use to smear somebody even in death. Know, somebody somebody retweeted my tweet on it on X and and basically said or quote tweeted it and said, you know, you can tell a lot about the way some, you
12:50 know, a a a group of people by who they lionize and who the who their heroes are. And I'm like, you can tell a lot about somebody that even in death, they refuse to be gracious and kind or at least neutral
13:01 or just keep your mouth shut. So People Magazine, shame on you. Absolute disgrace.
13:08 We got someone who sent in their favorite Dilbert. They had a they have a Dilbert strip hanging in their cubicle. Yeah. It's Dilbert talking to the pointy haired boss. May I talk to you after the mandatory meeting? Woah.
13:19 Woah. I didn't give you approval to attend that meeting. The meeting is mandatory. Approval is mandatory too. Okay, whatever. May I go to the mandatory meeting? All requests must be in
13:31 writing. It's mandatory! It's mandatory! If people start bending the rules before long, murder will be legal. And then it shows him talking to his coworker afterwards. That was the best mandatory meeting I've ever been
13:43 to. They handed out free cash.
13:44 Shut
13:45 up. It's funny. It's good. I was never like really that into cartoons, but I was really into like was 1
13:53 of was Coffee was 3 of them and that was 1 of them. Yeah. Well There's not a lot there's a lot of them are really bad. I I do they still exist, guess? Do newspapers still exist?
14:02 They do. They do exist, Blake. It's yeah, there are newspapers. Listen, I want to I just want to remember that Scott took a
14:14 great personal toll for this. And, you know, I I the the way the verse ends with the parable of the workers in the vineyard is that, you know, the
14:26 first will be last and the last will be first. And so Scott Scott came to his face faith almost at the end almost as like Pascal's wager. Mhmm. And and maybe, Blake, if you wanna describe that for the
14:38 audience here
14:39 Oh, So he does then there's another clip where he's more forthright about it even that so Blaise Pascal was a French mathematician who laid out an argument that basically, you should embrace theism, you should embrace
14:49 Christianity because the rewards of eternal life are great and the if you're wrong,
14:55 you're you're just worm
14:56 food so you lose nothing. Now the funny thing is Pascal, a very logical man himself, did not convert for that reason. He had a religious experience 1 night, like, just had a divine vision and he was a super Christian
15:04 after that. But it's an argument that has a lot of it's debated a lot certainly among, you know, computer programmer types who are
15:12 Well, is what exactly what Scott Adams is. Exactly. He's of an engineering brain, a contrarian thinker. And so he he did sort of wrestle with the risk reward analysis. And some people might say, that's not authentic. I
15:24 think it was the most authentic way Scott could approach Faith that he struggled to embrace his whole life. And so I would just say, welcome to the fold. You know, we're honored to have you, Scott,
15:36 and, you know, may you rest in peace, and we expect to see you someday. And I hope you say hi to Charlie for us up there.
15:43 He was he was the man in the arena. That's all those attacks on him, you think of that Theodore Roosevelt quote, I know Charlie was a fan of it, it's not the critic who counts, it's the man who's in the arena. The man
15:53 who is marred by dust and sweat and blood who strives valiantly. That's the man who matters. And that's what he was doing. He could be attacked by people because he bothered to say something that was relevant
16:05 and controversial. Period.
16:07 Yep. Exactly. And you know, think it was Matt Walsh who said, you know, especially in the aftermath Charlie's death, and he was reflecting on all the attacks against Charlie from the left or whatever. And
16:18 he basically was just like, may we all experience may our enemies rejoice when we die because that means we were truly effective. And the fact that they just, like, the pettiness of it Mhmm. I think just makes them look
16:32 I think it makes them look disgraceful. The only party disgraced in this instance is people. Alright? That is it. The fact that you could just say Dilbert creator Scott Adams dies at 68. Why couldn't you just go with
16:45 Guess not. Infamous cartoonist. Famous cultural commentator.
16:50 Well, yeah. I mean, like, for real. He and obviously, he means a lot to a lot of people. Mhmm. We're mourning him. The whole, you know, of exes mourning him. The vice president is sending out tweets. There's gonna I mean
17:01 I feel I feel we're actually underselling this just because it's been a long time. And what really made him super notable with our faction is in 20 15, 20 16, he was 1 of the first guys to really take Trump
17:12 seriously as a as a political candidate who would lay out an argument, okay, what Trump is doing when he's on stage where it's unpredictable and silly and he's he's saying stuff that seems outlandish, he's
17:24 actually doing something powerfully persuasive to people and he could win the election doing this. And he was just saying this back when everyone else on television was saying, Oh, he's just a dumb clown. It's never
17:36 gonna go anywhere. He was saying, No, you guys are wrong about this. And he put his well, he put his reputation where his mouth was and he was proved right. Trump actually did win that election.
17:44 Yeah, well said. I think you're right. And there is kind of this cast of like OG MAGA originals, like the, you know, Mike Cernovichs, the Jack Posovichs, the Charlie Kirks, the Scott Adams, the people that saw
17:56 early on.
17:56 I don't even know that he was a Trump supporter. He was just actually willing to say
18:00 Sure.
18:00 This guy is effective at what he does. Mhmm. And it's going to be persuasive to people. He he it was that master persuader line he used. I I remember that 1.
18:08 Yeah. Well, no. Absolutely. And and, you know, his wife read a statement this morning and they did a coffee with Scott Adams, you know, after his passing. We had heard that he
18:20 went to hospice, but his wife confirmed that, you know, he was of sound mind and that, you know, that he he did accept Jesus Christ and so, you know, god bless Scott and thank you for
18:32 your contribution. We honor you on this show because we honor brave men and women that stand up for what's right, that that are the men in the arena, that do take the slings and arrows for the rest of us. Charlie was 1
18:43 of these men, Scott was 1 of these men, and you know, it it's really it's really sad to lose 2 great Americans in such quick order. It really is.
18:55 And that was the first thought I had when I saw the news this morning that it it breaks my heart that we've lost another 1. It really does. Because listen, people are gonna come and they're gonna fill fill the ranks,
19:06 know, I'm loving the, you know, some of these people like Nick Shirley that are coming and doing great things, and we want more, we need more in this space, we need more sane actors, more rational actors, more
19:18 persuasive actors, and good faith actors, and Scott was 1 of those people that
19:24 And talented ones too because he wasn't just a political guy, he was a hugely he was a he had something funny and interesting to say, and millions of people are going to remember him for that. And that's a good thing to
19:35 aspire to as well.
19:36 Yeah, absolutely.
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22:46 Okay. Without further ado, we have John Carney. He's the economist editor, I believe. I got that right. I was doing Breitbart Economics editor. There you go. From
22:57 Breitbart News. He has been fantastic on specifically tariffs, but there's other economic news we want to get to, but we'll start there. So, John, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's great to have you.
23:09 Yeah. Thanks for having me back.
23:11 Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, Trump has this 25 percent tariff announcement for anybody doing business with Iran. Simultaneously, there is a SCOTUS ruling that we're eagerly
23:23 awaiting probably tomorrow or whether or not he's even lawfully legally able to do this. Give us the update, please.
23:29 So, yeah, we're waiting, and it could come tomorrow. It the supreme court never tells us what in advance what decisions they're going to announce. We think they wanna get to this 1 pretty quickly. A lot of people
23:41 thought it was going to be, the end of last week or, this it could be, on Wednesday or Thursday, or it could be anytime in the next couple weeks. 1 of the
23:53 things that Trump's recent tariff announcement does, though, is shows how important tariffs can be to foreign policy. And this is 1 of the arguments for why the president should be able to,
24:06 impose tariffs on countries, because it is really important to our attempt to try to contain Iran and to use the the US's
24:17 consumer market, which everybody in the world wants access to, to discipline the rest of the world. If you're going to do business with Iran, you're going to have to
24:29 pay a lot higher tariff to sell your stuff into the US. I think that's it actually really does strengthen his position that this is a core part of for of of a
24:41 president's ability to deal with the rest of the world, a core foreign policy power.
24:46 Yeah. It strikes me, John, is this kind of like Trump's this this maverick. He's creative with the way he approaches foreign policy, and he implements these new techniques. They're not new, but certainly in modern
24:57 American, especially presidential history, he's using them in ways others haven't really done before. And he's being more public about it. He's being more brash about And because he's he's been creative with how he's
25:07 wielded tariffs, he's now getting pump public punished for it. They're coming after him saying, well, now we wanna take that away from you because you're doing it in a way that we hadn't thought about before, and so we
25:17 just wanna pun punish Trump. But to your point, what happens if the Supreme Court rules against the Trump administration in this particular case? I've seen some reports that we have to pay back upwards of
25:29 300000000000 dollars in tariff revenue. Is this even feasible? Is this possible? Is this gonna happen?
25:34 I don't think the supreme court is likely to order the the US government to pay back hundreds of billions in tariffs, which is 1 of the reason look. I listened to the oral arguments.
25:45 The they were soup the the justices were super skeptical about whether or not Trump really does have the statutory authority. Because as you point out, there's not a lot of precedent for this. The
25:57 law that they're using, International Emergency Economic, Powers Act is people call it IEPA, has never been used to impose tariffs. Ironically, everybody agrees
26:09 that the president could sanction a country. It could you could even embargo countries. You could say you can't sell anything, but apparently their theory is that you can say you can completely shut off a country from
26:20 access to the US market, but you can't charge a 10 percent tariff for them to be able to sell into the US market. That seems wrong to me, but the supreme court was skeptical that Trump has this much authority.
26:32 I don't think they they rule that he has to that it all has to be paid back from the US treasury. I think what they're most likely to do is come to some sort of compromise where they say, The president can
26:44 impose some tariffs and but there's a you know, they might make up a time limit. It's called the emergency powers act, so maybe they say an emergency can't last forever. So you have a year. So that would mean we could
26:55 keep all the tariffs we have, and it gives the Trump administration some time to there's a lot of other statutes that allow the president to impose tariffs. So if these ones get struck down or get time
27:07 limited, I think president Trump can come back with other ways of going of erecting tariffs. And, frankly, I think the US senate and the house should, if the Supreme Court decides this, should
27:19 actually just completely reverse it and say, no. We think the president does need this power.
27:24 Yeah. But wasn't there, I mean, pushback even from the Republican side of the aisle? There was Rand Paul, I believe, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski. The question then becomes, you know, you've kind of got these
27:36 these tricky Republicans in the Senate that we're not so we talk about this when we're, you know, discussing nuking the filibuster, for example. You've still got Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Rand
27:48 Paul, and Mitch McConnell. That puts you at 49. You're not even at that 50 50 mark so JD Vance can cast a tie breaking vote. You gotta get 1 of those those tricky senators on board. And then you got Tom Tillis, who
28:00 knows what's happening with him right now. He's he's he's causing a stink with the Fed. So
28:04 Traditionally, you had a lot of Democrats who would vote in favor of tariffs and supporting tariffs. There may still be some hiding out there. The question is whether or not, like, their Trump
28:16 derangement syndrome has overtaken what used to be their loyalty to the you know, to American labor and to the working class. Maybe it has, and maybe they cannot, as a Democrat,
28:28 bring themselves to vote for a, you know, a tariff authority for Trump, but they should. It's good for working Americans, and Democrats constantly claim that's who they're protecting. And so, you
28:40 know, the fact that they won't, that would be a revealing moment, frankly.
28:43 Yeah. I totally agree. I totally agree, John. And you've got core consumer prices rise less than expected. So core CPI is less than expected. You've got, what was it? A 4 point, I forget
28:55 now 4.9 number that we got the revision for Q3. And now, you know, you even got the Atlanta Fed saying that we're expecting 5.3 percent GDP growth in Q4 potentially.
29:07 That's their estimate might be high, whatever. But like the point is, it seems like the economic indicators are all going in the right direction right now. Part of the reason that is is because the doomsdayers about
29:18 tariffs have been proven wrong again and again and again.
29:21 Yeah. No. Absolutely. Been proven wrong. Look. Unemployment fell. Inflation is much lower than anybody expected. The economy is growing at rates much faster than anybody expected. I think that,
29:33 everybody's got this wrong when they said that the tariffs were gonna somehow derail the economy or push up prices. The opposite has happened. We're having an investment boom in America. The news is good. The Trump
29:45 administration needs to get that news out there. But, frankly, I think it's going to get out to the American people because you just need to drive by a gas station and see that the Biden inflation crisis is in
29:57 our rearview mirror, and what's ahead, what's in our front, what's in front of us is very good.
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