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How Can We Whitepill a Blackpilled Gen Z?
December 4, 2025 · 36 min
Republicans avoided an embarrassment in Tennessee's special election, but that doesn't mean everything is perfect. Tyler Bowyer explains why today's red states need to be building turnout infrastructure before they become the next Colorado — a red state transformed into a deep blue one. Gen Z staffers Daisy and Danny explain why young people of all political stripes are feeling "blackpilled" as 2025 closes, and discuss what might help the Trump administration win them back. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Series The Charlie Kirk Show December 4, 2025 · 36 min · The Charlie Kirk Show
Republicans avoided an embarrassment in Tennessee's special election, but that doesn't mean everything is perfect. Tyler Bowyer explains why today's red states need to be building turnout infrastructure before they become the next Colorado — a red state transformed into a deep blue one. Gen Z staffers Daisy and Danny explain why young people of all political stripes are feeling "blackpilled" as 2025 closes, and discuss what might help the Trump administration win them back. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. ...more Show the full description Show less Republicans avoided an embarrassment in Tennessee's special election, but that doesn't mean everything is perfect. Tyler Bowyer explains why today's red states need to be building turnout infrastructure before they become the next Colorado — a red state transformed into a deep blue one. Gen Z staffers Daisy and Danny explain why young people of all political stripes are feeling "blackpilled" as 2025 closes, and discuss what might help the Trump administration win them back. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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0:03 My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the0:15 most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending your0:27 kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start at Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your0:36 church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord MuseMe.0:48 Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the1:00 leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers.1:09 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Blake Nefer, producer, and I'm joined here right now by Tyler Boyer. It it feels weird. You're you're usually next to me when we're doing thought crime.1:21 I'm always here, you're always there. It's a little different just to have you across the desk like that.1:26 Yeah, no, it's great to see you eye to eye, Blake, because I'm usually side eyeing1:30 you anytime. Yeah, I'm always like this, and then spend half of Thought Crime just with my head rotated like that on the camera. But, no, we wanted to have you on, so I have good news everyone, we we
1:42 had to warn everyone about this. We said the Tennessee seventh race is coming up, don't ignore it because Democrats definitely aren't ignoring it. And happily, yesterday, Matt Van Epps defeated Democrat Afton
1:53 Bain, the woman who said she hated Nashville, hated bachelorette parties, hated country music, hated basically everything that made Nashville noteworthy, yet she some a few polls, I think,
2:05 showed her winning even, but did not come to pass. We were worried it would be close. In the end, it came out to Republicans winning by 9, but it was even a little bit better than that when the first
2:17 early votes came in. The New York Times estimator said, oh, Republicans will probably win by 2. And it just got stronger and stronger throughout the night. There was very good election day turnout by Republicans, which
2:28 shows the word got out, don't ignore this, don't sleep on it, get there. Now, here comes here comes the but, this is a district we won by 22 points. Trump won it by 22
2:40 points last November. The House margin was 21 points. It went to 9. Mhmm. So that is a serious swing towards the Democrats. Now it's not cataclysmic. The Cook Political Report,
2:52 these eggheads who estimate these things, they say it's organically about a Republican plus 10 district. So winning it by 9, perfectly respectable result. But it
3:04 is less. And so, I'll throw to you here, Tyler. What should we make of this result overall, you think?
3:10 Well, there's a couple of things that we want to go through. So, and foremost, Turning Point Action's not in Tennessee, so we did not have a hand in
3:17 the We're focused on the key swing states. Charlie
3:20 said this all the time, we're focused on the key target states, the swing states. However, the future of Tennessee is that it's going to be a swing state at some point. And this is Oh, don't say that.
3:29 Please don't say that.
3:30 People, like, kind of razz me on X when I say things like this, but Tennessee, Utah, Idaho, these are targets, these are long term targets for the left. And this is because
3:42 They want them to be like Colorado.
3:43 Yeah. Large counties with large cities can topple a conservative state. So in Tennessee, you have the Nashville Metro area has grown abundantly, just similar to Phoenix and Arizona.
3:56 And this is what, you know, people couldn't even imagine, couldn't even fathom a blue Arizona or a purple Arizona. And we have seen that when Democrats, when we have a huge swing in
4:08 population numbers, lots of outsiders move in, that it starts to change the dynamics of the state. And then when the Democrats spend tens of millions of dollars in these, in these races, whether it's for
4:19 Congress, Senate, President, Governor, then you can lose. And we've seen a lot of red states, Kansas, Missouri, to name a few, where we've had Democrats win
4:31 governorships. We've had, we've had statewide elections. Nothing is safe. You cannot look at any of these districts and say, even in a deep red plus 22, R
4:43 plus 10 district, in this case, the R plus 10 district, a plus 22 Trump, there's a difference because there's a lot of crossover votes in red States where Democrats voted for Trump this last election cycle,
4:55 where Democrats stayed home because they just didn't believe in Kamala Harris. That's, that's the first step. So there's a little bit of a misnomer here, which is that this is a plus 22 district. This is not a plus 22
5:06 district. Like you mentioned.
5:07 It's a district Trump won
5:09 by 22. Yeah. This is a district that Trump won by 22. Some, some of that being half of the increase being that Democrats stayed home, half of the increase being that Democrats crossed over in a red state.
5:21 Now with that being said, this district was vacated by a Freedom Caucus member. Representative Green took a private sector job. We have to, I have to say this because it
5:33 applies to everyone. We were just saying this, I was just saying this about Marjorie Taylor Greene. It is not helpful when we have such slim numbers in the majority to have people retiring
5:44 mid- midstream here.
5:46 Not even midstream. I think he announced his retirement in July. 6 months! You are given a public trust when you run for an office.
5:54 You run to serve for the full term, and it's not difficult. It's not a difficult term. It's 2 years in Congress. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be running. And so, again, I'm not attacking, either of the Greens in
6:06 this case. I'm not saying that, you know, things don't come up or people don't have illnesses or they don't have, you know, there's lots of different reasons that people choose and some of those are not public. However,
6:16 it's not helpful, what is fair to say is it's not helpful for people to quit midstream right now, and with, so few Republicans controlling Congress. Now with that being
6:28 said, that's why the special election became such a focal point for the Democrats, because if they spend more, they're going to turn out more. And in special elections, it's all about, it's low turnout, right?
6:40 Enthusiasm.
6:41 It's all about enthusiasm. It's all about how many people can you actually get to show up to vote. It's not persuading people. This isn't a persuadable district. This is a plus 10 minuteimum, maximum plus
6:52 22 that Trump won by district. You should win this district if everybody shows up. That's not the case of special elections.
7:00 Yeah, I'm looking at its most recent. It had 322000 votes in the last normal election, and then in this 1, 179000.
7:08 Yes. So So you're talking about
7:09 Barely half. Yeah. They got We got 96 97000 votes to win, whereas the Democrat lost Got 122000 votes to lose by a ton last
7:18 time. Yeah. I think the projection was that it was going to be in the low 40s was turnout numbers when all said and done. I don't even know if they hit that, in this case for the turnout, but 40 I mean, that. Again, 40
7:29 percent turnout is really low for a congressional for a federal race. So you have a situation here where, this is, people are freaking out because the amount of money
7:41 and energy that was spent for the Democrats.
7:43 Which is good. We got them to waste money on a thing they lost by 9. But it still shows the reason you have to be wary, and Charlie would always talk about this, is you have to be wary because Democrats,
7:55 on average, they they seem to care more. They get whipped up. They're more Republicans are passionate about their families. They're passionate their faith. Democrats are passionate about politics because for many,
8:05 politics is their faith.
8:06 But this is really important to understand. The people who, who who sit at home, right, Obviously that sat at home, Trump won by that extra, you
8:18 know, 13 points or whatever the end result was, they didn't vote in this election either. Right? So obviously that's not going to help you in the differential. The crossover vote didn't show up for this
8:30 vote. Right? The people that the Democrats that voted for Trump didn't show up to vote for Matt Van Epps. So So
8:39 we're definitely going to get into at least 1 dimension of that in the next segment, because we're talking about the Gen Z sentiment is very fickle around the past year of politics, and
8:50 There's 2. There's Gen Z, which is really important to talk about, and Millennials, I'd say younger Millennials that are, you know, that have been crossing over in bigger numbers. And then you have the Freedom Caucus
9:02 element. Those 2 elements played a role in not maximizing what this victory could have been. And that's a unique opportunity at this point forward for, you know, the White
9:14 House, who endorsed in this race, for, conservatives in general, the Republican Party, the, what I call the some people call the establishment, but I call the machine is
9:25 everybody has to look at this and go, Alright, how can we do better than this? I'm glad we won, I'm glad we won by about the amount that we control the district by, by registration.
9:37 How do we do this better?
9:38 45 seconds, what's the message? We'll get into the grassroots next second. What's the message for the donor class, the political class, the people who can make big decisive moves now to make sure we're in a stronger
9:50 place a year from now?
9:51 Well, like I said, kind of at the top of this, is that Tennessee is a future place that they want to topple. So we have to fortify Tennessee strongly now, and so you have to make the investment
10:03 into the boots on the ground to make the difference, and that's what we talked about every day with Charlie. That's what we talked
10:08 about every It's a real thing. You want to have just that dominant get out the vote apparatus in a state before it's in crisis. Like in Arizona, was just it was suboptimal, and then we had to build that after the crisis
10:19 arrived, and we may have lost races due to that.
10:21 That's right.
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11:27 We're talking about the results in Tennessee's seventh district election, which did go well. Good news everyone, you guys all listened to us, the ones in Tennessee. You turned out, you voted, we won by a lot more than
11:39 the than the 2 points we were fretting about. So we were talking about what donors should do, how we need to be building up the apparatus, building the machine in these red states before they are purple
11:51 states, before they are blue states. You make them impenetrable. You you should win by a lot because that's how you continue to win by a lot. But Tyler, I said we wanted to get into the
12:02 grassroots element this time. So people are looking ahead to the if you're a Trump voter, if you're enthusiastic, we get endless emails at freedom at charlie kirk dot com. How can I get involved? How can I help?
12:15 How can they get involved and help? Because a lot of our turnout stuff, some of it ramps up in, you know, the months before an election. But what could they be doing right now to make sure they're ready to roll, they're
12:25 ready to rock, regardless of what state they're in?
12:27 Yeah, right now we're building the machine so that no matter what state you're in, you can help in the swing states, but then in special situations like this. So, you know, this was a little bit
12:39 of an interesting race because, you know, I think we're going to talk about it, the complexity that exists, but tpaction dot com slash getinvolved is how you can
12:51 sign up so that we can message to you. And again, we understand that not every people are busy. You guys, everyone has jobs. They have kids, they have family. They can't participate around the clock. They can't
13:01 participate even once a month in some cases. But there's things that you can do to sign up, be prepared, and plan ahead for important elections. So election dates, obviously we know
13:12 now, October of 20 26 is gonna be really important. So if people can take off time and plan to take off time to travel to their nearest swing state to be helpful, that's gonna be that's we're gonna have things for people
13:24 to do.
13:25 But it's a midterm, swing district too. And swing district. Even if you're in a red state, you'll have these competitive districts. So you'll be in Texas, if you're in rural Texas, you'll be looking at the big city
13:37 nearest you where there's maybe 1 of those new congressional maps that they have. Or even if you're in California, people always want to help out in California. They have a new map. They're trying to take a lot of seats
13:46 from us, but if we can get the, you know, the ballots chasing efforts, if we can build on what we had, the success we had in 22, the success we had in 24, if we could deny them some of those seats they plan to
13:58 flip, that will make the difference in whether we keep or lose the House. And keeping or losing the House is going to make a big difference in how successful this administration is.
14:06 Right. I mean this next election could hang in the balance of 1 or 2 congressional seats. That's why Indiana matters so much right now. People can get involved. Is there
14:17 a status update on that? I know people have gotten very interested in that.
14:19 Yeah, actually, so that's going through the House right now, they're about complete, they think that it's gonna be, it's gonna pass, the new maps are gonna pass the House, which is a nine-zero map, and then next week
14:29 will be the Senate, which is where the real challenge is for India.
14:32 So they have like a state level filibuster that is the obstacle? Because they need a super majority to actually pass it, correct?
14:39 Yeah, they just need a majority of the, I believe it's actually just a majority. So they need 26 of the Republicans out of the 40 Republicans to vote yes.
14:49 26 out of 40 seems like it should be attainable, but state level Republican they have this way of letting you down far too often. And there's great. There's great state level Republicans too. But Charlie would always he
14:59 would talk about this when we were doing the Nebraska project, when we were just over and over. You have to we have an obligation. You have to take a national view of things because the entire country is on the line.
15:11 That's right. And you have to fight at the state level where you're able to, but you also have to be ready to fight at the national level. You have to work towards both. You can't be provincial, you can't be narrow
15:23 minded and focused.
15:24 There's fewer Democrats in the state legislature in Indiana than just about any red state. They only have 10 out of the 50, state senators, so
15:36 again, this is where this comes in. We have to maximize our opportunity right now to benefit the rest of the country, and Indiana is 1 of the very few places where you can make that
15:48 argument that that is a through and through, top to bottom red state.
15:52 Yeah, just, you have to it's Charlie talked about this in right wing revolution. A lot of successes. We have to win back purple states, but also in red states. Maximize the value of your red states. Yep. Think use and
16:04 Tennessee is still red. Use Tennessee the way the Democrats use California And floor use Florida, Texas. While you have these advantages, they're large states. They can they're they have the GDP of large European
16:16 countries. Yep. Use that. Before we go, another way you can get involved if you're at the grass roots. If you're attending America Fest, AMFest, just 3 weeks from now, great opportunity to meet people from your state,
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16:41 Very excited, we broke this this morning, super early this morning, that JD Vance will be headlining the event. He's gonna have a very special message. It's gonna be a very important message. And so,
16:53 yeah, he's a hero of the movement. We're excited to have him back here in Arizona.
16:56 We're very excited. If you're not able to attend, tune in. It's all going to be broadcast online as well. We're going to rally the troops for the year of battle.
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18:17 We have the Zoomer half hour. We have you, and I believe we have Danny. He's on assignment somewhere far out east. Are you with us, Danny?
18:24 Yeah, I'm here. Can you hear me?
18:25 Yes. Yes, we can hear you. Zoomers are joining from all across America. They're growing in power. And that's the worrisome thing. So we were just talking about this Tennessee special election. I suspect a lot of Gen Z
18:37 didn't know there was a special election. They can be a little tuned out from things, and that's matters. So Charlie was incredibly proud of the shift among Gen Z voters who he reached out to the most. A lot of them
18:49 moved towards President Trump this last election, actually at an unprecedented level in our lifetimes, at least. But there's signs, certainly from polls and just
19:00 superficial indicators, that they are less enthusiastic now than they were last November. And actually, we always we have you on Daisy and we tout you as producer Daisy, you pop in and out, but we don't don't tout you
19:12 enough, you you built from the ground up the the Charlie Instagram page,
19:17 which
19:18 a lot of Zoomers use Instagram.
19:20 Emma Kay as well, we have a whole team of people that have done an amazing job, but I mean really it, in the last couple years, became the largest conservative Instagram account.
19:28 It's an incredible accomplishment, and that requires having your finger on Gen Z's pulse. So the sense we had, we were discussing this yesterday, is as as the lingo goes, Gen Z is black pilled. They they feel
19:40 downbeat about things.
19:42 Which Charlie was very I mean, just in the office. Every day. No black pilling.
19:46 No black pilling. No bad news. Yeah.
19:47 He would say
19:48 that to me the most, of course. But yeah, he would say that. But the sense I get is that Gen Z is is downbeat. And I guess you listen to them as much as anyone here. What is your sense?
20:00 Think that 1 of so we have a clip about Trump talking about we and I need to find what number it is. But we heard him say this yesterday, and this got us all talking
20:12 because I think something that is not talked about a lot is when we were getting Gen Z to go out to the polls and vote for Trump. They were voting against the economy that they
20:24 had heard about from their parents, from their grandparents. They had heard about Joe Biden's failing economy, huge selling point. But they were not actually active in the economy at that point.
20:35 So then them coming out of high school, college, and then being a part of the economy for Trump's economy, and it's still really stretching them and them still not be I I don't know if they expected
20:47 to just be able to get out of college and buy a house immediately, which is obviously not how things work. There's a lot that has to go in that has to put into place to fix So
20:58 we have that clip here. This is what prompted the discussion yesterday. So this was Trump, I believe, during his cabinet meeting yesterday. He spoke with the press. And we have clip 2 83.
21:09 The word affordability is a Democrat scam. They say it, and then they go on to the next subject. And everyone thinks, oh, they had lower prices. No. They had the worst inflation
21:21 in the history of our country.
21:22 So it get it was it's getting cut up just as brief as possible by by Democrats, by the left to say where he just says affordability is a scam. And really what Trump is saying is everything related to inflation is
21:34 a crisis that began in the Biden administration. We did Covid stimulus too long into 20 one-twenty 2. They denied it was happening. They said there is no inflation. Usumers may not remember this, you were still in like
21:46 high school when this happened. Yeah. But they were they said they sent prices into the stratosphere. I think we went we had 13 percent some we had the highest inflation we'd had in half a century. And
21:58 Trump is saying, we are aiming to fix this. But the clip can be cut up in isolation and you also know Gen Z watches clips that are 5 seconds long on TikTok and that can shape a lot of their perspective on reality.
22:10 Yeah. There's- there's that 1. There's another 1 from yesterday where he says affordability is a hoax. We don't need to play. It's very clip. It's very quick because that's the clip that's going around. But, Danny, I
22:19 don't know what you're seeing on your x feed on your TikTok. It's that is something that a Gen Zer would hear and be like, okay. Wait. Why why is it a hoax? I've been this
22:31 whole time expecting that things are going to get more affordable. And that's not actually what Trump is saying, so I think we need to focus on what sometimes
22:38 Why why do they feel this way at all?
22:40 Yeah.
22:40 Adding up or being received in the way that Gen Z can understand it. What do you think, Danny?
22:44 Well, I think our biggest thing for Gen Z is immigration is what they care about the most. And that ties into affordability, obviously. But I think that is the baseline for everything in terms of what
22:56 I've seen through all the algorithms, everything, talking to friends, what I've heard. And it ties in
23:03 I'd I'd push back. I guess you're probably referring to conservative young people then, that the conservative Gen Z based care is the most Yeah.
23:09 Conservative Gen Z. Conservative Gen Z.
23:12 And their sense is that there's just not enough happening in immigration or
23:16 Yeah. And they're very black pilled on the issue right now with obviously the h 1 b stuff that happened and all the illegals that are here in the country now. And I think that the algorithm and all that
23:28 is keeping them from really seeing the good things that Trump's doing on immigration with deportations and stuff like that. But I think it's also just the overall doomerisms at an all time high.
23:40 And so that's what I think the main problem is, that ties into affordability and all their other problems.
23:45 Well, and I think it goes both ways. Like, if we look at the 2 groups that we are having issues with, it would be Gen Z boys who are, what Danny's saying, too black pilled to even think that the immigration
23:57 that's happening is positive, and we are making real progress there. And then it's Gen Z women who think that immigration is a broadly emotional issue. They're seeing people being
24:09 stripped away from their families, and they're thinking about the women and the children, and so I think that it is a huge voting point that we had and that we won on, and we are seeing massive amounts of
24:21 progress there, but I don't know that the messaging is working for either people groups that we have a problem with.
24:28 Yeah, I I could definitely see that, where it's on the 1 hand this is why Charlie would say no black pilling, because I do think some of this is, to a degree, a mental it is a mental funk. It is addictive to feel
24:39 negative about things, and so I always like, even I can feel frustrated with stuff that happens in politics. And I always remember, we secured the border overnight. We had the biggest flood of people into this country
24:49 ever, and we just turned it off. And that is a huge point of progress that we should be bragging about all of the time. Not the least because that is has some it doesn't have as much of that emotional baggage that they
25:00 just manipulate where anytime people who are in this country illegally should be sent back, yet they make you feel shame that this happens. And we should not feel shame that people who broke the law are punished.
25:11 Right.
25:12 Yeah. But I think it's also I
25:13 think I think another problem, Blake, is the administration has been focused a lot on foreign problems instead of domestic problems. We see that with ending wars and stuff, which is great. But it's come to a point where
25:25 a lot of people are just looking for answers at home, and they kind of don't really care about foreign policy as much. They are more so just focused on what affects them here domestically.
25:36 When I think this all ties I think we should play cut 2 50. It's Charlie from July of 20 25. And it's a real I I think it let's play it and then react to it.
25:46 We get more young people under the age of 35 to have equity in the system.
25:51 Yes.
25:51 Not the democrat version of equity where they wanna have redistribution, but actually, are they paying a mortgage? Do they own stuff? Or are they permanent renters? A permanent renting class in this country is the
26:03 prerequisite, is the leading ingredient for radical politics that nobody wants to see. We need to reinvigorate the ownership economy. And then all of a sudden, when you own stuff, you're less likely to burn down a
26:15 Wendy's and vote for candidates like Zohran Mamdani.
26:18 So I think that an a big, big issue in the doomerism stuff that Danny is talking about, which is it's so so horrible to think about. But
26:31 Gen Z had all these problems beforehand, and Charlie was the person that was out there not only talking about it, but talking to them and inspiring them to be better. And then we all really publicly
26:43 lost personally, our friend and boss, but Gen Z, they're 1 of their largest role models that they've any generation has ever had because no generation before has had that much access to someone on social media to
26:55 be able to see all of their thoughts in real time. I mean, was live on the air every day for hours. They could see exactly what he was thinking. And now, they've lost that, so there's a big looming question of where do
27:07 they go?
27:07 And he was so positive. I think that's 1
27:09 of the
27:10 biggest wounds we feel. Charlie, would come out and he would say there are huge challenges facing America, unprecedented challenges in a lot of ways, yet he would always frame it to you can be better, you can make
27:21 yourself stronger, you can succeed. And he lived that out himself. Charlie built this organization in his twenties. He had a great family. He bal- he actually achieved- lived out his faith to such a strong degree. And
27:32 people want to follow strength, they want to follow success. He would not tell them to wallow in things. He would say Every problem in your life, however daunting it seems, is fixable.
27:44 And I worry, y'know, without Charlie we've had too much of a balance toward this negativity, towards making yourself into a victim, and he hated the victim ideology.
27:55 Yeah, I Dani, do you see that on your feeds as well? A lot of what I'm seeing and some of the differences is Charlie would call young men especially to be better, and there is a cheap
28:07 cash grab of sorts of people, now young men are looking for a role model, it's like, This is how you can complain and make your life worse if you just wanna feel better in the moment. Are you seeing that? Are your
28:18 friends talking about that? What do they think?
28:19 Yeah. I'm I'm seeing a lot of just, like, you know what? I we even saw viral clips last week of people saying, you don't need to get married anymore. It's not worth it. You're never gonna be able to buy a home, stuff
28:29 like that. And young men are actually, like, kind of listening to this, following along, and that's a problem. And also because negativity is just so easy to listen to, especially when you already are
28:41 feeling negative, it just sucks them in. So I really feel like that's our biggest problem right now with Gen Z is is just drawing them.
28:48 Yeah. If you're Gen Z yourself, or if you have a Gen Z kid, send us emails. Freedom at Charlie Kirk. We'd love to see them and get that input.
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