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Charlie's Final Message to the World
December 10, 2025 · 36 min
Charlie's final book "STOP, in the Name of God" is finally out nationwide, and nobody is more fitting to talk about the book's message than Erika Kirk. She joins the show to discuss why the Sabbath meant so much to Charlie and how God's gift of rest only made him more effective as a campaigner, communicator, and leader. Plus, Hillsdale's Matthew Spalding talks about his new book on the Declaration of Independence and its central role in defining the "American mind." Order "STOP, in the Name of God" at 45books.com.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Series The Charlie Kirk Show December 10, 2025 · 36 min · The Charlie Kirk Show
Charlie's final book "STOP, in the Name of God" is finally out nationwide, and nobody is more fitting to talk about the book's message than Erika Kirk. She joins the show to discuss why the Sabbath meant so much to Charlie and how God's gift of rest only made him more effective as a campaigner, communicator, and leader. Plus, Hillsdale's Matthew Spalding talks about his new book on the Declaration of Independence and its central role in defining the "American mind." Order "STOP, in the Name of God" at 45books.com.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. ...more Show the full description Show less Charlie's final book "STOP, in the Name of God" is finally out nationwide, and nobody is more fitting to talk about the book's message than Erika Kirk. She joins the show to discuss why the Sabbath meant so much to Charlie and how God's gift of rest only made him more effective as a campaigner, communicator, and leader. Plus, Hillsdale's Matthew Spalding talks about his new book on the Declaration of Independence and its central role in defining the "American mind." Order "STOP, in the Name of God" at 45books.com.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Charlie Kirk (born October 14, 1993) is an American conservative activist, author, and political commentator. He is the founder and president of Turning Point
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0:03 My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the0:15 most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You gotta stop sending0:26 your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at Turning Point USA College chapter. Go start at Turning Point USA High School chapter. Go find out how your0:36 church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am, Lord MuseMe.0:48 Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the1:00 leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers.1:09 Alright. Welcome to hour 2 of the Charlie Kirk Show. Blake, this is the I think the moment everybody's been waiting for today, and that's because, of course, we have Erica Kirk on the show.1:22 She is joining us remote because she has a busy busy day. But Erica, if you can hear us, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show.1:30 Hey everyone, can you hear me? Yes.1:32 We're in New York1:32 City. Hi.1:35 Well, today is the book launch of Charlie's book, his final book, Stop in the Name of And here is this beautiful artwork, yes. And Erica,
1:47 you and Charlie and your beautiful daughter are on the back and it's just the it's just a beautiful book. I've been voraciously reading it. It is a wonderful personal, tribute
1:59 and and such an important message. Tell us about
2:01 it. It is a book that my husband as you know, Andrew, he was writing this for what? A year and a half? Mhmm. And he finished it in in July. And I'll never forget him coming downstairs, he was like, I finished
2:13 it. I finally finished it. I was like, baby, I'm so proud of you. And he was like, you know, if this only changes just 1 person's life, at least it changes just that 1. He's like, but honestly, he
2:25 and I I have to tell you, this watching him live this out in real time changed his life, totally elevated him. I mean, he was already elevated, but it was the next level. It was amazing. I mean, yes, my husband
2:37 was amazing to begin with, but this really took it to the next level.
2:40 Yeah. Well and I can just tell you, and Blake probably saw this as well. So this is a little this is a little funny story. So Charlie loved to work. He loved loved working.
2:50 Which is good because he got to do it all the time.
2:52 Yeah. He I mean, and he really loved working. I remember when I first started working with Charlie, was kinda just like 24 7, You know? And he was always good natured about it, always upbeat. He loved he loved it.
3:04 And I remember my wife was like, hey. You know, are we are we ever gonna have any, you know, time down weekend. Yeah. Like, how about a weekend, husband? And I was like, yeah. We no. We will. I'll talk
3:16 I'll talk to her. Well, then along comes Erica. Now you guys have a family, and Charlie starts getting really into this idea of how to rest, how to rest well. And I could just tell you that I saw not only did
3:28 I see Charlie this take Charlie to the next level, but it also allowed everybody else to kind of go to the next level too because our lives and everybody that he was leading, their lives became more imbalanced
3:40 too. It was an amazing transformation for the entire team.
3:44 It was. And and not even so much from just a productivity level, but Andrew and and Blake, you guys both know this. The whole team knows this. Being in politics and just in a total echo chamber and then also dealing
3:56 with real world issues and then also just dealing with even personal life issues, all of those 3 combined become this absolute trifecta of this weight on you where you're just like, can I just
4:08 have a second to breathe? I just need a second to breathe. And that's what this is. It has nothing to do with running away. It has nothing to do with take it's literally taking a pause so you can
4:20 lay out and map out. Okay. Pause the noise for a second. Just stop the noise for a second. What truly matters? Have people pour into you. Have some alone time with the Lord. Spend some time with your
4:31 family. Have a beautiful meal with your family on whatever day you choose to do this. It does not have to be a Friday. Does not have to be a Sunday. It doesn't even have to be a Wednesday. You can
4:43 choose. That that's what's so beautiful. Charlie was not legalistic about the Sabbath. He was saying, please just take the time to be just set aside to be alone with the Lord, to be able to pray, to be able to just even
4:54 journal. How Charlie loved to journal. He left hundreds of his journals, and that to him was just so cathartic to be able to just write out what he was grateful for. You know, even
5:06 just, I don't know, when he would go for a walk, and he would just would have ideas that came to him for his show. He just really took the time to think, you know what? This worked for me because it helped me from
5:17 burning out. And that was a superpower for him. People would say, how do you do this? How do you operate? And he would always say, I I get he'd get 8 hours 8 to 10 hours of sleep
5:29 a night if he could when he was at home. But not only that, he made sure that if he kept this pace and rhythm of giving himself a break, he wouldn't burn out like many other people because
5:41 they thought it was cool to pull all nighters. Actually, it's not, and it's not good for your brain health either. He felt like he found the ultimate secret and the ultimate hack as an entrepreneur and wanted everyone
5:52 else to be in on on that.
5:54 Can I just read this section that hit me so hard last night as I was as I was reading this book?
6:00 Yeah. It's such a good book, Andrew.
6:01 It's so good. It's good. It's so good. I think it's there's just something about I just God has a plan. I know you just sometimes have to just
6:11 I know. But the depth and level of the theology in here is unbelievable.
6:16 Yeah. It's unbelievable. Took I mean, I'm telling you, resting for Charlie took him to the next level. And and here's what here's what he said. To stop utterly, decisively, rhythmically is perhaps
6:28 the most radical command God ever gave humanity. In a world governed by unrelenting drive, by the mantras of faster, harder, and more, the divine voice says something astonishing.
6:40 Stop. In his name, cease. Cease striving, cease earning, cease proving, cease buying and selling and producing. This is not a suggestion. It is a divine
6:52 imperative. What did you notice when Charlie really put this into practice? Because I have my own stories, but what did you see in Charlie?
7:01 He I mean, he was already amazing husband to me, but our love for 1 another just amplified. Him and his role as a
7:12 father amplified. He was so intentional with his time to begin with. I mean, had it down to a millisecond. You guys know that. But Charlie was so good about making sure that his priorities
7:24 remained his priorities. And even just hearing you read those words, Andrew, like, I have to tell you, like, I hear my husband's voice and spirit so much in this
7:36 book. Like I said this morning when we were having an interview earlier about this, I just he feels so alive with me still when I read these pages because I feel like he's
7:47 addressing it to me personally. And, again, he made sure that when he took the time to rest and and go for a hike or spend some time with the kids or
7:59 just be able to show the world, the rest of the world, yes, I'm Charlie Kirk. Yes, I have these organizations. Yes, I have my show. But what's the most important to me is God
8:11 and my family. You guys can wait 24 hours. If it's an emergency, you know how to get ahold of me, but you can wait. And that's so special.
8:20 Yeah. He was so intentional. And by the way, what you could see from what I just read, Blake, how serious Charlie took this. Yes. It was a it was very, very serious to
8:32 Charlie. And we would all get the notes like, hey, see you see you later. I'm I'm off.
8:37 Not even not even that. It was always I always knew it was coming around the same time. Shabbat shalom. Yeah. Exclamation point. I can see Shalom. I know. Telegram. Always the same 1. And I'm like I I would sometimes be
8:48 working on stuff. I wanted Charlie to see something right before, and it would come through. I'm like, it's done. Not getting a response to that 1 till Sunday.
8:54 We still got everything done. That's the key. A matter of fact, I think you get more done in 6 days with rest than you do in 7 days with no rest. And that's the breakthrough.
9:05 You do. And another thing too is that Charlie made sure that this wasn't a legalistic thing. It didn't matter if you were Jewish Christian, nonobserving citizen. That had nothing to do with it. It actually really
9:15 doesn't. What it boils down to is that you are taking the time to really use your time wisely. Charlie was only alive for 31 years.
9:26 That sucks. It just does. Your life is so short. We have no idea how long we'll be here. We have no idea our expiration date and the and when we'll be in heaven with the lord. But what we do
9:38 know is that we have a choice. Every day, we can decide to take the time that we're given to do something amazing, to go out and make a difference, to go and empower people, to serve people, or you can use that to be
9:50 destructive. You have an option. Charlie knew that if he took the time to have a moment to breathe, to strategize, to create solutions instead of
10:02 problems, he knew how important that time was. And if he didn't have the time to give his brain the space to do that, he wouldn't be able to be an effective leader like he was and still is. He's just in a different
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11:25 We have the great Erica Kirk who is out there doing an amazing job telling the world about Charlie's last book, Stop in the Name of God. We are so proud of you, Erica. You're doing an amazing job. You have
11:37 such a busy day.
11:38 You know, was just I always think with the Sabbath how I just walked in in the middle of it. You guys have all testified how it transformed Charlie for the better once he adopted it. I just think of how I got
11:50 in and I saw this person who was hugely effective, had so much agency, had this immense ability to change the world, and but then he's also checking out for 1 day a week, and everyone's saying
12:02 Blake, you have no idea how different Charlie is from how he was just 2 years ago.
12:06 Well, was just he just he expanded his capacity. Mhmm. It was just amazing. Like, the man had it felt like unlimited capacity, and then he takes 1 day off a week, and somehow it expanded his capacity even His
12:17 capacity and everyone around him as well. Yes. It really was a force multiplier. Stop in the name
12:23 of God. Charlie's last book, which breaks my heart, honestly, makes me kind of want to cry every time I say it, and I'm trying not to. But I'm so proud of Erica, who's doing it for
12:34 her husband. She is doing an amazing job, promoting this book in his stead. Erica, what does that mean to you? You know, just to be out there doing this for Charlie to spread this
12:46 word that was so near and dear to him.
12:49 It's real I mean, I'll be honest, Andrew. I can't finish the last chapter. I don't know when I'll be able to. It's kind of like
13:00 when you again, I've said this before. You get only so many firsts and lasts within 1 thing. And for this book, that's united
13:12 in 1 for me. Meaning, it's the first time I am reading my husband's last book. It's not the last time I'll read the book, but it's the first time to read his final
13:24 words. And it's hard to think that it's just it's so it's so divine too that of all of the books that he leaves for us, it's not a book about politics.
13:36 It's not a book. I mean, although he does talk about some things politically within here, and he does talk about worshiping idols, and he does talk about, you know, different philosophies and
13:48 theologies that have implications towards certain things. But he, of all the books to write, he writes something about honoring God.
14:00 And he writes it in a way where he literally became the subject matter expert on it because he wasn't trying to preach and lecture to you. You need to do this. He was like, you know
14:12 what, guys? I did it. And this made an impact in my life. And these these are the final words that I will leave you with. He went on campus knowing that communication was key, but he
14:24 also knew that if the students, if whoever he was communicating with also took some time to nourish their soul, to nourish their brain, to actually give themselves
14:36 a better night's sleep, to take care of themselves holistically, there would be way more of a difference made in this country. There would actually be healing in this country if people actually
14:47 took those combined holistically. And to me, it was it's just Charlie being like, you know what? Stop and pause and rest. That doesn't mean you're weak. That doesn't mean
14:59 that you know, it it means just take some time for the Lord and take some time to really just hold into perspective what's true and what's beautiful.
15:09 I almost don't want to ask a follow-up question after that, that's so beautiful. But I thought we do have 3 minutes here still, Erica. Obviously Charlie was working on this at home a lot, I thought I'd ask,
15:21 is there anything you've read in the book so far that stands out, Oh, I remember that conversation that led to that. Or, on the flip side, is there something that you learned to your
15:33 surprise while going through reading this book?
15:35 The surprise side is, I mean, I knew my husband was brilliant, but the depth of understanding of this topic is amazing and how he weaves in the Bible and how he
15:47 reads in just weaves in all these different interesting facts and history of the Sabbath and then even certain laws like blue laws that we had here in this
15:58 country and how we have changed as American citizens without having that rest built into our country and how that's actually
16:10 impacted us as a as a as a whole, as a body. So that that was kind of because I, you know, I hear him writing about this book and everything, and he shares certain topics with me. But that was really interesting. The
16:22 1 thing that was really sweet, he when he at the towards the end of the book, he will give you practical ways of applying the Sabbath for yourself. Whether that means
16:34 you going for a hike in nature, whether that means you doing something like sunsetting your device where after 5 PM, the phone's off, just how it used to be years ago before there were devices everywhere. And once you
16:45 left the office, that was it. But what was really sweet to me is that in there, there was something called a a Sabbath box that you can have with your kids. And I got to see that with him and my children. I mean, they
16:57 were that was such a special bonding time for them. And, man, just I miss him, you guys. I just miss him.
17:05 Of course. Of course. Erica Kirk, you are doing an amazing job. You can get this book. It comes out today at 45books dot com. 45books dot com. Check it out.
17:17 Erica, you're doing phenom I know how busy your day is because I've seen the schedule and I just love that
17:22 you made schedule. Yeah. We're honoring him well.
17:26 Exactly. You are. Today, you're not resting, but you will rest this Yeah. But
17:31 I will on, yeah, on Friday and Saturday and Sunday.
17:34 You deserve it. You have earned it and then some. I mean, everybody pick up your copy today. This is Stop in the Name of God by Charlie Kirk. Erica, you're the best and you're doing a great job.
17:46 God bless you guys.
17:47 We'll
17:47 see Thank you. I'll see you guys soon.
17:49 Send us your thoughts. Freedomcharleykirk dot com. Blake can gather them. I'm so proud of Erica doing that. Can't That incredible. I can't tell you just how hard that must be. I I can't
18:00 imagine how hard it would be, but I I doing the press tour for your husband's book in his stead, it's just something nobody should have to do, and I'm very proud of her.
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19:32 with Doctor. Matthew Spaulding. He's vice president Hillsdale College. He has a new book, The Making of the American Mind, the story of our declaration of independence. I wanted to do
19:43 this this book today. I've been talking about it for a little while with their team because, you know, you got this birthright citizenship thing coming up and the discussion gets very distracted
19:55 very quickly. But Doctor. Spaulding has a very, I think, interesting focus point. So Doctor. Spaulding, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
20:03 Great to be with you. I'm honored to be on the show with both of you and also in light of Charlie. Yeah,
20:10 absolutely. Well, we just had his wife, Erica Kirk, on. She's doing the tour for Charlie's last book, Stop in the Name of God, Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life. And
20:22 so, it's a it's an important day in that respect. And but it's also important, about your topic. What is an American? Is a is a question that is really echoing across, I think elite
20:34 intellectual circles but also social media circles. What is an American? And you have this book that just it, you know, endeavors to answer that in a very unique way, where you're saying The Making of the American Mind,
20:46 the Story of Our Declaration. What is your book about? And what there's a through line I I wanna dive into, but I'll I'll give you the floor.
20:54 No. No. There there absolutely is a through line, and and I think it's it's it's a very clear through line to be perfectly honest. But, you know, we're coming up on our 200 and fiftieth anniversary of the declaration
21:05 itself, which is the timing of it, I suppose. But I've been working on this for a long time. But studying the modern debates, both on the left and the right about, numerous topics,
21:18 almost all of them go back to an understanding of what we are as a people. What does it mean to be an American? What are the principles that form us? And the there's this conception of what
21:29 it, what makes us Americans. And the the the document that is really central to that whole thing, that whole conversation is the Declaration of Independence, which we oftentimes, you know, will
21:41 read or will hear, spoken parts, the famous sections on the fourth of July. Maybe we'll, know a little bit about it and its history. I wanted to write a book that tells its own story, the story of the declaration, how
21:53 we got it, how it came into being, how Jefferson ended up drafting it for the Continental Congress, how they edited it significantly to make more points, about, among other things, theology, the
22:05 theological implications of the declaration, and go through it essentially as a commentary and looking the declaration for a general audience very closely line by line in a way that people can understand.
22:17 Because when you under you can't really, love your country if you don't know your country. And the thing we do need to know that is the declaration of independence. It is the the greatest, and the most, I
22:29 think, most eloquent statement of freedom in Western civilization, especially in the American tradition. It's a beautiful document, and we should know it. Our our listeners should know it. Members of TP USA,
22:40 every college student in America, children, it it's a beautiful thing.
22:45 I'm just looking It's it's under Charlie's his his hat here and and his gift from his daughter. But, yeah, he would always flash this thing on the show.
22:57 Is it is it the declaration or just
22:58 the constitution? Think it has we have versions at least we used to with the declaration.
23:02 Lot lot of times they put
23:03 them they put them together, the declaration. Yeah. But you
23:06 is it that they they said to which there are 2 documents. They go together. You can't even change the constitution without the declaration.
23:12 Well and here's here's something that you say about this. You said Thomas Jefferson called the Declaration of Independence an expression of the American mind, not merely a document. The declaration is the
23:24 common creed of our civic life, and it inspires the shared poetry of our political soul. I think that's a really fascinating way to put it. It is a common creed. It is I guess
23:36 the question then for you, doctor, would be, you know, we just love Hillsdale. Charlie loved Hillsdale, so you know, I didn't give your bio, but you are the Kirby Professor in Constitutional Government and Dean of the
23:47 Van Andel Graduate School of Government at Hillsdale College. And you have a lot of other titles, which is very academia of you. Your titles are always so long.
23:59 But I guess the question, the real question of our time is with how much the nation has changed, with how much technology has changed, how many new cultures have come into
24:11 the country in the last 40 years especially. Can this common creed, this shared poetry of our political soul, can it bring us together again?
24:22 That a great question, central question, probably the question, for us to think about. But but here here here's the way to answer that, I think, that, Charlie among others, I think, was getting at when he was was
24:34 studying more and more about these questions, in particular, the American founding. The founding occurs in time period that's not the modern 1 we are used to being, surrounded by and what is taught in college
24:46 campuses. It was a world in which, we still had Christian moral horizons, and we were still within the broad confines of what we might call a classical educational system. And
24:57 in that way of thinking, the way we think about things that change, technology, methods of warfare, shipbuilding, whatever it might be, There are things that change, but
25:09 the most important things to understand are the things that don't change. And the things that don't change are those are the things that have to do with, our theological pursuits, which is why the kind of Christian roots
25:19 of Western civilization are so important, but also the kind of the intellectual, moral, rational roots of our thinking about, unchanging principles. And the
25:31 declaration really brings, in the American context especially, brings both of those things together in a very deep way. And so the argument of kind of this sense of education that
25:43 underlies all this is that you know the permanent things, and then these other questions become kind of prudential matters. We can debate about them. We can think them through, but you look at them in light of something
25:55 else. Today, 1 of the problems is we look at these things in particulars as if that's the only thing at issue here, this particular policy question. The founders looked at it differently. I think Charlie looked at it
26:07 differently. I think the, we at Hillsdale look at it differently, which is these are all interesting questions. Let's think them through. Let's argue and debate and deliberate, which is why it's so important to have that
26:18 conversation. But we do so in light of things that don't change, because you can't judge whether something immediate, new, is good or bad unless you have something, a standard by which to judge it.
26:29 Right.
26:30 And that's really the heart of the declaration. It's also the heart of the kind of the westerns, the whole western tradition, both both, Christian and rational, going back to the Greeks and the Romans.
26:42 Yeah. It's it's the Western tradition, but I think 1 thing that's often worth remarking upon is how really fortunate America has been. We were created in a revolution,
26:54 but you can compare the French Revolution, another Western country, another historically Christian country, and their revolution was spectacularly bloody. We've had other spectacularly violent
27:06 overturnings of the existing order. And yet in America, ours was relatively peaceful, even our civil war we recovered from quickly. I was wondering if you could comment on were there special ingredients into the
27:18 American Declaration of Independence?
27:19 Absolutely. Abs and and and you're you're again, is a fabulous question, itself as well because there's an we call it the American Revolution, and then there's another thing called the French Revolution. They are
27:31 diametrically opposed and very different, and it's important to understand, the differences, which is why we call it an American revolution, but more rightly, we refer to it as the American founding. As they
27:43 were they were declaring their independence, having a revolution against England, but at the same time, they were starting a new nation. So it really kind of points to the roots in a way that, whereas the French
27:53 Revolution was all about tearing things down. But the there there are a number of important differences. 1 is the the the American Revolution, American founding is influenced by
28:06 the roots of Western civilization that go through, in particular, England, which means it's more religious. It also means it's more, tolerant and, focused on
28:17 constitutionalism and the rule of law. The French Revolution really is all the bad aspects of the enlightenment. The the French thinkers, which give rise to the German thinkers and a lot of the
28:29 modern progressive liberals we have today, which which largely rejects it was very anti religious. It was an anti constitutional order. The other aspect I would add to
28:41 it, which, I get into some here, but is another aspect of some of my other scholarship, is the people involved, the members of the Continental Congress, and in particular, George Washington,
28:53 their their particular roles, their characters, their their shaping of their values, and their their moral sensibility. So our revolution ends in Washington making sure we have a constitutional convention
29:05 as opposed to the French revolution ends in, people cutting, getting their heads cut off, the guillotine, and Napoleon making war on the rest of the world for his own glory. So they they can't be you couldn't
29:17 have 2 revolutions that are more different than each other than the American and the French.
29:22 Yeah. I mean, the French revolution, I have not studied it to the extent that Blake has, but it it is, as you said, diametrically opposed to the American experiment. By the way, there is something you know, you
29:34 hear sometimes these arguments about a case for for British colonialism and a case for the British empire, and and it really is a remarkable element.
29:42 Such a we Britain has shaped the world so much. We overlook how amazing Britain was. The places it created America, Australia, even Canada before its recent You
29:54 gotta be I
29:55 don't know about that. But yeah. No. I'm just kidding. The what I will say, I'm really curious, doctor, want to dive into this because you're saying that the declaration is a particular and a
30:06 unique outflow of the spirit of the people of America. And so when we have you in the next segment I want to ask you what was the break and what was the
30:18 distinction between America and Britain? What made us so unique? So hold on to that thought
30:30 there, Doctor, until we have you for the next segment. But that is a unique question, I think. Thanksgiving holds so many memories and I'm sure it's the same for
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31:40 Spottley, do you take any of these classes? Have you have you taken them? Have you gone through them?
31:43 Oh, I I take I take most of them when they first come out. Absolutely. And I know
31:47 They're amazing.
31:47 Do them. We talk about them a lot. We have 2 coming out next year on, the on 17 76 and the American Revolution, so look out for those too.
31:56 Oh, that's fantastic. They are really well produced. People don't, like, appreciate that, like, they're beautifully shot, the lighting is perfect, the the visuals, I mean, they're incredible. And bless this 1, you get
32:07 Doctor. Larry on. So we are talking about how great British, the British imperialism actually maybe was because if you compare I mean, I know that's a controversial statement. Okay. I get it. It was it was complicated
32:19 business. But if you take their colonies versus, others, you could see that they were far more successful. Even in Kenya, you know, which was a British colony. It's 1 of the most stable countries in, inShow more
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