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The Democrats' 2024 VP nominee is now being driven from office in his own state. Minnesota journalist Liz Collin breaks down the state's growing fraud crisis and how Nick Shirley's viral video forced Tim Walz to quit his reelection race. She also investigates the possibility of a backroom power-swapping deal between the outgoing governor and Amy Klobuchar. TPUSA Frontlines reporter Jonathan Choe talks about the expansion of the Somali fraud investigation to Washington, where far-left politicos seem eager to let crime run wild. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Democrats' 2024 VP nominee is now being driven from office in his own state. Minnesota journalist Liz Collin breaks down the state's growing fraud crisis and how Nick Shirley's viral video forced Tim Walz to quit his reelection race. She also investigates the possibility of a backroom power-swapping deal between the outgoing governor and Amy Klobuchar. TPUSA Frontlines reporter Jonathan Choe talks about the expansion of the Somali fraud investigation to Washington, where far-left politicos seem eager to let crime run wild. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. ...more Show the full description Show less The Democrats' 2024 VP nominee is now being driven from office in his own state. Minnesota journalist Liz Collin breaks down the state's growing fraud crisis and how Nick Shirley's viral video forced Tim Walz to quit his reelection race. She also investigates the possibility of a backroom power-swapping deal between the outgoing governor and Amy Klobuchar. TPUSA Frontlines reporter Jonathan Choe talks about the expansion of the Somali fraud investigation to Washington, where far-left politicos seem eager to let crime run wild. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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1:47 Hi, guys. Happy New Year. Good to see you as well. Thanks for having me a lot on A lot to talk about.
1:53 Yeah. I mean, we actually had reached out to you. I know Blake and you were talking about Back
1:58 and forth. You're in high demand lately. No.
2:00 On the Somalia fraud issue. And we did not know when we booked you that we were also going to be welcomed by the news that Tim Waltz is deciding not to run for reelection. What
2:12 is the the story behind the story here, Liz?
2:15 Yeah, you guys, these last few weeks have been a bit of a whirlwind in Minnesota. You could certainly say that with news and politics, no doubt. Governor Tim Walls making it official, actually
2:27 just about an hour ago here that he will not seek reelection to a third term as governor. There have been many political scandals on his watch. We've been detailing all of them, but this billion
2:39 dollar fraud scheme seemed to be the last straw. In his case, dollars 9000000000 in all and counting. We now have multiple federal investigations going on here in Minnesota.
2:51 And yet compared to mainstream media, I think we've been 1 of the very few, certainly the most prominent, in the the state of Minnesota, criticizing the the governor. We have been for several years with our exclusive
3:02 reporting, but we even showed up at that press conference today. Our photojournalist, which it's it's really difficult to even call it a press conference, you guys, but governor Walz took no questions at all. Alpha News
3:12 tried to get into the room, but we were told we were not on the list, so we could not. The governor, it's been years now since they've even responded to our request for comment on any story, but really
3:24 just a bizarre situation. If any of your viewers were seeing this at all play out on X, you have walls coming off, I think, quite angry. I think that's fair to say. He talked about how
3:36 he was supposedly fighting fraud for his last 7 years in office, which came off as a bit of a surprise to any of us paying attention, basically blaming Republicans and President Trump for all of this,
3:48 referring to Nick Shirley's viral video, which got an awful lot of attention, called that a right wing YouTuber, and Nick Shirley was breaking into day cares.
3:58 We have that clip. We have that clip. Let's let's play it real quick. Let's play 1 79.
4:03 We've got conspiracy theorist right wing YouTubers breaking into our day cares, demanding access to our children. We've got the president of the United States
4:15 demonizing our Somali neighbors and wrongfully confiscating funds that Minnesotans rely on. It's disgusting, and it's dangerous.
4:24 Now what comes to mind for me, Liz, is he can talk a big game there. He can say that. Yet I feel like nothing confirms all of the theories and allegations going on in Minnesota more than the
4:36 fact Governor Walz realizes I can't fix this in the eleven- in the- in the 10 months till the next election. I have to drop out to give us a shot in this race. That seems like
4:48 the greatest confirmation of all, that there's a gigantic, scandal here, correct?
4:53 Yeah, mean, think Blake Purdy wasn't paying attention, it certainly seems that way, that with what he's saying now, it's almost kind of opposite day, we see that message again and again the governor's
5:05 office. But you have some interesting maneuvering happening behind the scenes, and this is something we've been monitoring for months now. Even when Governor Walz announced in September that he would run for reelection
5:16 for a third term, Many were very surprised by that with all of the baggage that he carries in state, but now it seems that it seems to be more and more truthful
5:28 now, and this is something we were hearing months ago, that Senator Amy Klobuchar will in fact be running for Minnesota governor, and then you have perhaps some backroom dealing going on that Walls would then be
5:39 appointed to her Senate seat because she is not up for reelection until 2031. So there would be a special election in 28, but walls would have some sort of swap
5:51 out and until then, this is all just sort of speculative at this point, but but many of these Democrats, 1 could say that, fraud has been happening on the watch of many Democrats here in
6:03 Minnesota. It's been 20 years now since there was a statewide office held by a Republican in Minnesota, but they've been all very quiet. You did not see anybody really going to bat, if you will, for
6:15 governor Walls for these many weeks and months, and sometimes, you know, that silence speaks louder than than anything else.
6:23 So, know, this seems to be the first shoe to drop and this swap out idea is fascinating because I could actually see that really coming to bear here. But
6:34 the question then becomes where is accountability? So you've been doing the research and the investigations here, Liz, in Minnesota. Who is most responsible? Obviously, the buck stops with the guy at the top, but
6:46 it seems like this fraud has you you have to have so many people turn a blind eye to allow the fraud to go this long, this large, this widespread. Who needs to be
6:58 held accountable next?
6:59 Yeah, I think it's a great point, Andrew. In many ways, this fraud is almost baked into the legislation that we see passed again and again at the the state capital with these NGOs, these nonprofits that are formed.
7:11 I'll just highlight some some recent reporting over at Elfa News within the last few months, but a transportation company paid millions of dollars over what the Minneapolis school district was allowing. We find that
7:23 these vans are either sitting for months on end or in fact they're driving around town without any passengers in them at all, several Somali owned companies working for the
7:35 Minneapolis school district. Well, it turns out that there is some legislation passed in 20 23 under a DFL trifecta, so controlled by Democrats, that basically hundred
7:46 percent of the reimbursement that is submitted to the federal government will go to the district and those companies. And what are the monitoring systems put in place for these so called
7:58 rides and services? This is all of a sudden assigned to what they consider the homeless and highly mobile population in Minneapolis. So what do we see? All of a sudden, there's a 40 percent spike in homeless kids
8:10 in Minneapolis. So when you really take a look at a lot of this, the math certainly does not add up. It has not been for years, but we continue to detail those stories over at Elfa News from whistleblowers who've been
8:21 trying to bring this to the attention of prosecutors, of authorities for such a long time. I've interviewed recently just a TSA agent who detailed her time at the airport here,
8:33 how she would watch millions of dollars in cash and carry on luggage be flown out of MSP on a weekly basis by a couple of us Somali men, sometimes the same, sometimes different. And
8:45 this was also corroborated by a former HSI agent who I then interviewed who talked about how, again and again, they would present these cases to the U. S. Attorney's Office
8:57 back then and there would be no prosecution at all, no charges. Very similar with Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. We're hearing a lot about her again as President Trump continues to bring her up,
9:09 but marrying her brother, the fact that there are questions if she's even a U. S. Citizen. But so much of this you know, has been reported before and not by the mainstream media. The
9:21 mainstream media is very complicit in Minnesota. I know you guys know that know that well with, you know, perhaps the focus being more on what they do not report than what they do, and the Minnesota Star Tribune,
9:32 Minnesota's largest newspaper, is run by a former commissioner of Governor Tim Walls.
9:39 Yeah, the Star Tribune has really just been exposed as a total It's
9:44 been so great where they've been like, they initially said this is over you know, this is overreacting. There's nothing to see here. And then Yeah. As it becomes real, they've had to pivot to actually, we've been
9:53 covering this for years. We've totally talked about the it's very funny to see them squirm back and forth on this.
10:00 Yeah. It it it's it's really it it shows how important your investigations have been, Liz. And, you know, you're you I wanna I wanted you on the show to make sure, you know, with Nick Shirley, God
10:12 bless him. We're very happy for Nick's the success he's having, the the virality of that video, and what it's really unleashed nationwide. Second half of this hour, we're gonna be covering Washington Somali day care
10:22 fraud and other fraud in the state of Washington. It's important, but you guys at Alpha News have been on this for so long, and you've been so good.
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11:43 We have Liz Collins standing by, and it's a before we bring her in, I wanna play this clip of president Trump just went to just went ham on Ilhan Omar and the Somali
11:54 pirates. Play cut 1 83.
11:58 Somalia Somalia pilots, pirates. But what they are doing is they're stealing money from the American taxpayer, and every 1 of them should be forced to leave this country, including
12:10 Ilhan Omar, who's a total crook. And we're not gonna pay it anymore. We're gonna have Waltz go pay. We're not gonna pay them.
12:19 Waltz needs to pay. Trump just I mean We can dream. We can dream. Liz, Trump, I think, is echoing the sentiment of a lot of Americans that we feel where we don't understand why we had to take in hundreds of thousands
12:31 of Somalians from a culture that doesn't share our values, doesn't assimilate very easily or seamlessly, and now we find out they're defrauding us. What what can be done and if if you've investigated this as
12:43 far as deportations? There's a new report, Liz, it just broke. I just saw it. So I I don't expect you to know about it. That even local Hilton hotels and Hampton inns in the Minnesota or
12:55 the Minneapolis area are declining ICE agents and DHS officers from getting hotel rooms because assumption is they're working to deport Somalis. What
13:07 can be done in that regard? What are people on the ground saying?
13:10 Yeah, know, I actually did see that report, and I was able to actually ride along with ICE just a couple of months ago, and this is how deep this all runs, you guys. I think this story is a good example, but I
13:22 accompanied them on a ride along for a news story and they talked about just the growing frustration they have with Minnesota, how difficult their job is because you have so few counties
13:33 in the state that cooperate with ICE. So instead of doing these pickups at jails and prisons in Minnesota, instead they have to go out into neighborhoods where they are met by
13:45 these activists. In fact, the Star Tribune has a live reporting feed where they go ahead and blast out where ICE is going to be next. So this has been going on now for
13:57 months in Minnesota. We went out The
13:59 Star Tribune?
14:01 Yes, they actually are basically promoting this, where ICE is going to be, so they can be met by activists. But during our ride along, we picked up a former Minnesota State employee who was being paid 6
14:12 figures by the state, had worked for 2 different agencies, and turns out was a convicted felon and was hired anyway and now faces deportation, and that was
14:24 a story that we documented for Elfa News. But again, you see this kind of at every turn, sort of this radical leftism that has taken hold in many agencies, and, you know,
14:36 I think that, you know, that that's a perfect example of something that has been playing out here as well.
14:41 It's really interesting. Minnesota used to just be this very, let's say it was probably 1 of the best run blue states, it was a desirable 1, and you look at the map, and we well know that people are fleeing California,
14:52 fleeing Illinois, fleeing New York. But actually, there's a lot of domestic out migration out of Minnesota now. People, they can sense that it's going south. I wanted this is a bit of a swerve but I thought you might
15:03 have some thought on this. It just seems like every program in Minnesota very quickly can become this feeding frenzy for fraud. I know you guys have a new paid leave law that just came into play. They added to their own
15:14 they added their own payroll tax to the state on top of what you pay for Medicare and Social Security for paid leave, and you're eligible for it if you are self employed. You can join into it. You can get a maximum of 20
15:26 weeks of family or medical leave. And and so it seems to me like this is going to obviously present people an opportunity to incorporate a self employed business, declare that they're paying themselves a certain salary
15:38 This feels like COVID.
15:38 And then you yeah. And then you go on you go on your leave for long COVID or whatever, you know, your family member is sick or you
15:44 have any 1 of your 4 wives
15:46 Infinite possible sick, yeah. Claims, and you can get a maximum of 20 weeks of leave a year, 1400 dollars a week is what the state will pay. So that's 28000 a year. Am I reading this right, Liz?
15:56 Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, Blake. And that's what I was talking about, sort of how this is baked into the legislation. In fact, people are actually calling on just a forensic audit overall of the Minnesota state
16:06 budget at this point. I think there are 5 or 6 federal investigations now ongoing in in Minnesota, and I think they will be taking a look at a lot of this. Republicans certainly have been raising alarms
16:18 surrounding this new law that just went into effect January first. You had Governor Walz in this so called press conference today talking about how he's going be back out in front of
16:30 cameras tomorrow talking about how great this new law is, and there are many questions about fraud. Already thousands of people have been approved for this and speaking with small business owners, whether it's COVID
16:42 or other mandates that were put in place on small business owners in Minnesota, they have expressed a serious alarm. The Chamber of Commerce, many departments came out against passing this, but again, this
16:54 has been a Democrat controlled state for such a long time. You're right that tens of thousands of people have fled the state at this point, but Governor Walz,
17:06 in the last 7 years, it's really hard to understate how much has happened here, whether it's defunding the police, a lot of these mandates on small businesses, education
17:18 scores really in the tank at this point, thousands of businesses closing in Minnesota in addition to people moving out. And we've always been known
17:30 for years as a welfare state, the good people of Minnesota, whether it's Lutheran Social Services, Catholic Charities taking people in, but the Somali part certainly has been different, and the
17:42 evidence has pointed to that. It's about 100000, they say, Somalis in Minnesota. I've covered cases where they will be on the stand saying, This is our culture. They consider themselves
17:54 business people, and this is under oath. They're saying this. It's totally different than anything we've seen before.
18:02 Liz, you're quite the trooper. I would get out of Minnesota I were you, but you're there, you're covering it for us, and I suspect we're gonna get a lot of material from it in the weeks to come. Thank you for very much
18:12 for coming on.
18:12 Thanks, Liz.
18:13 Thank you, guys.
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19:52 refuses to. And now Jonathan has, I mean, he's done amazing work, for Turning Point for years, but he is uncovering the extent of Somali fraud in the state
20:04 of Washington. So Minnesota's gotten a lot of the attention, but this fraud and this tendency by specific community in specific kinds of states, expands well beyond Minnesota. We've
20:15 heard Ohio and Jonathan's on the ground in Washington exposing it there. Welcome to the show, Jonathan Show, Frontline CPUSA.
20:23 Hey guys, thanks for having me.
20:24 Yeah, man. You, so give us the rundown here. So this fraud has been going on for who knows how long and you are uncovering it. And it
20:36 appears that instead of like we're in Minnesota, they are with Tim Walz is saying he's not going to run for reelection. We have a new socialist mayor of Seattle, Katie Wilson, who's promising
20:48 to probably make things worse. Tell us, give us the lay of the land. What's the state of things in Washington?
20:53 Well, first of all, credit to, Nick Shirley, who busted this story wide open in Minnesota. And again, this morning, Tim Walls, finally saying he's no longer gonna run for governor.
21:05 Shirley's coverage had a lot to do with that. That's what also inspired though our coverage here in Washington. As soon as that story, you know, broke in Minnesota last week, independent journalist Cam Higbee
21:17 along with citizen journalist Kristen Magnuson and I decided we needed to start looking here. Magnuson busted an entire list, identified more than
21:28 500 Somali run day cares. What we did was simply process of elimination. We went through the inspection histories, anything with red flags, serious violations. We decided to go after and we did the
21:40 divide and conquer approach. So after just only 4 days now and nearly 40 Somali daycares from Seattle to Kent to Auburn to Sea Tac all over South King County,
21:52 we've uncovered what appears to be possible signs of Somali daycare fraud. In at least 4 cases, the daycare was officially registered with the state of Washington. But when we knocked
22:04 on the door, either no 1 came to the door and only spoke to us through a ring camera and said, no, no daycare care here. Never registered. Or the person ran us off the property saying, no day care.
22:15 Go away. Wow. And you guys are, definitely I want I want the audience to understand just how much you guys have ruffled feathers in the state of Washington. Throw up 1 44. This is NBC. National
22:27 NBC is posting about your guys' reporting saying that, you know, essentially trying to downplay who you are, far right, you know, YouTubers,
22:39 independent journalists, so called, are now harassing local daycares because they happen to be Somali. Is that the truth? You heard you heard Tim Waltz saying something similar,
22:50 Jonathan, with, you know, basically calling him a conspiracy theorist and a right wing YouTuber trying to downplay the significance of this work. What are you doing that's getting under
23:02 their cross so much, Jonathan?
23:03 Well, it does seem like that seems to be the playbook, initially at least for, these Democratic elected officials and also the left wing corporate media. It's pretty much deny, dismiss,
23:15 and then try to discredit. But at the end of the day, we have official public documents. You referenced Katie Wilson, the new mayor of Seattle. Just a few days ago, we went to her inauguration and,
23:27 she pretty much admitted that her social media post right after the story broke where she called, you know, all the people knocking on the doors of the Somali daycares to figure out whether or not actual fraud was
23:39 happening. She referred to them as extremist influencers. And when Higbee confronted her and I confronted her, she admitted she was talking about me. So we're clearly living rent free in
23:51 her head. But again, all joking aside, the fact that a sitting official does not only includes the mayor of Seattle, I'm talking about the Washington state governor, Bob Ferguson along with attorney general Nick Brown,
24:03 instead of calling for a robust investigation into the Somali daycares, they're now playing defense. They're pointing fingers at president Trump. They're us
24:14 harassers. So again, I think, there's clearly a coordinated effort going on right now.
24:20 We have that clip, Jonathan, of, the new she was just sworn in this morning, right?
24:25 A couple days ago.
24:27 Couple days Okay. So she's just sworn in. She's an act when we say she's a socialist, she's actually a socialist. She she's proud of this. She calls herself she's a part of the Democrat Socialists of America. She
24:38 narrowly won her election over the incumbent there. It was just a, you know, I guess more of a traditional Democrat. Here's 166 Seattle mayor Katie Wilson calling Jonathan Cho and Cam Higbee
24:50 extremist influencers, which is it's a bold claim, 1 66.
24:55 Said that everyone has a place in Seattle.
24:57 This is your city. That means that you belong here.
25:00 Drew, as you put it, extremist influencers have a place in Seattle.
25:03 Oh, well, he's right here, so I guess so. Who? John? Well,
25:06 I asked her. She she said in her speech that everybody has a place in Seattle. And I I said, Katie, you said everyone has a place in Seattle. Does that include it as you put it extremist influencers? And she looked at
25:17 you and she said, there's 1 standing right there. I guess so. And then
25:20 she's calling me an extremist influencer. I again, I triggered that post apparently.
25:24 And then I asked her if her administration will investigate Somali daycare fraud, and she literally started pushing me away. Alright. Her staff ushered me away.
25:32 So it's all on camera. We simply stood in line. We just wanted to ask her basic questions, but Katie Wilson and her administration afraid of questions, basically. Yeah. Terrified of questions. Yeah.
25:43 That's amazing.
25:45 Good for you, Jonathan. I mean, you know, Minnesota's getting all the attention, but Washington is an absolute hotbed of extreme actual extremists on the left. They're gonna
25:56 ruin that state. That is a state that is a proud capitalist past. I mean, you've got Boeing. You've got Starbucks. You've got, Microsoft. Amazon. There's Amazon. This is a
26:08 proudly capitalist state, and it's kind of got this people don't understand this. Like, the Seattle area has this kind of, Scandinavian heritage as well, like, very intrepid entrepreneurs, very, self
26:19 sufficient people. It's getting completely annihilated from, you know, the, I would say from progressive left. But the tax base, the, massive inflate,
26:32 influx of foreigners, the the traffic in Seattle is horrendous now, by the way. But it's just I'm shocked at how much fraud, we've explored and we've
26:43 discovered already in Minnesota, but how much we're about to, discover in Washington state. And the question that I then have, Jonathan, is that instead of investigating it, they're shooing you away. What
26:55 is the reticence with actually investigating this fraud?
26:59 Great question. You've got to ask them, and I want to be very clear. You know, people like me, Cam Higbee, Kristen Magnusson, and all the other citizen journalists who've been digging. It's because the
27:10 Washington State Department of Children, Youth, and Families, the actual agency, get this, that not only funds these Somali daycares, but is also supposed to investigate the daycares. Well, they're not doing their job.
27:22 I mean, we've reached out to DCYF numerous times now. They're not returning our request for comment. I called them several times. Their voicemail box is still full. So the best part of this is that
27:34 DCYF also on its webpage put out a statement basically advising daycares on how to respond to all the people making inquiries but there's no place at all on the website right now to make
27:45 complaints about suspicious Somali daycares.
27:48 That's by design.
27:49 Yeah, it it does seem that way and that's what the Washington state GOP said. Jim Walsh, Travis Couture, 2 state representatives now also leading the charge here, trying to look into what's actually happening. They've
28:01 gone as, you know, so far to say this is essentially a kickback scheme. We've also uncovered that a lot of these Somali daycares have donated to democratic candidates, not
28:13 conservative Republican candidates, but democratic candidates. So it's this vicious cycle that they're alleging. So again, we are at the very early stages of this investigation. In fact, Nick Shirley is a friend of ours.
28:25 We've invited him. He might come here. We've talked to other, journalists across the country. We are urging more eyes on this state.
28:33 You know, it's shocking and I want to get back to this idea. I mean, I lived in Seattle, I went to University of Washington and when I was there, it was, like I said, proudly capitalist. This was a,
28:45 a people that knew how to run. It was kind of like Minnesota where formerly used to be this sort of well run blue state. It functioned. There was order. Kind of the old Charlie used to talk about this all the time with
28:56 the the old Democrats that ran Chicago. They knew how to run a city. Yeah. They were Democrats, but it was sorta like the the old school version. What and now you're getting whether it's New York
29:07 or Minnesota, you've got a, basically a communist running Chicago. Now you've got a communist we'll we'll just keep it what it is. A socialist running Seattle. I mean, this is
29:19 a really scary trend that we're seeing. Socialist Seattle. Communist socialist running Chicago. Socialist running New York. I don't know what the heck is going on in Minnesota, but they're basically trying to give
29:31 away every single dollar that comes into the coffers. And it is going to play out exactly how we know it's going to play out, where rampant fraud, rampant fleecing of the tax
29:43 taxpayers, and residents that are productive are gonna flee the state. It's just there's there's no you you mentioned this in Minnesota. New York's moving to Florida and other places.
29:54 Illinois's filling up, Phoenix. I can tell you that. This this city's full of Chicagoans that have fled the state. Have you have you felt that already and just kind of in the last couple years,
30:06 Jonathan, and now it's gonna get worse in Seattle? Are you seeing businesses starting to flee the state? Are you seeing people flee the state?
30:12 Absolutely. The exodus has already begun. Just look at the data and the numbers. Downtown Seattle, the commercial real estate, the vacancies are at an all time high. You have property values starting to drop.
30:24 You have people now, you know, for example, Amazon and and Meta. They were going to expand in Seattle, but instead they're they're moving to nearby Bellevue, which is only 15 minutes away, which is safer,
30:36 which is pro police, and is simply a better run city. So what's happening now again, in Washington, the concern is that all the patriots who were common sense have now left and there's
30:48 no 1 left to fight. And maybe it is all by design that the GOP, you know, continues to, you know, pass these insane policies, frustrating common sense folk and the folk were gonna challenge them. They're no longer here
31:00 to do that. So again, lot of theories happening right now, but I'm seeing again the data and I'm seeing people now voting with their feet and that's what's happening in Washington.
31:09 Yeah. And you saw that you see that in California too. It's like if all the people would have just stayed and fought in California, you know, we probably could have won back Cal. Honestly, I mean, it it's a bittersweet,
31:19 you know, pill to swallow.
31:20 I don't think we could have won it back.
31:22 Oh, I do. I do. I I mean, if you if you go back to the nineties, I mean, people are starting to flee the state of California in the nineties. I mean, we're talking millions of people over the last 25 years, 30 years.
31:31 You should see how many votes we lost by.
31:33 Well, I mean, yeah, fair enough. I mean, you know, call me call me, you know, conspiracy theorist if you want, but actually, I it is a problem though because and then and you know, states like Arizona get benefited from
31:44 Texas, Florida, a lot of a lot of red states are benefiting. Jonathan Cho, I know you are midway on this investigation. Please come back when you conclude it. We wanna platform it, showcase it, and make sure the world
31:55 knows. TPOSA Frontlines, Jonathan Cho, great American. Thank you.
31:59 Thanks for dropping the story this week. Take care guys. Awesome.Show more
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