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December 11, 2025 · 29 min
Segment 1 — Judge Blocks Mom From Exposing Daughter to Christ
A shocking court decision: a judge in a divorce case has ruled that a mother cannot expose her own daughter to Jesus Christ, restricting the child from Christian teaching during visitation. Dr. Chaps reports on the legal, constitutional, and spiritual implications of this ruling and what it means for parental rights and religious freedom in America today.
Segment 2 — Interview with Roy Knight: India Church of Christ
Broadcasting from the International Conference on Missions (ICOM) in Atlanta, Dr. Chaps interviews Roy Knight of India Church of Christ. Roy shares how their ministry is preaching the gospel, planting churches, training indigenous leaders, and serving communities across India—advancing the Great Commission in one of the world’s most spiritually open and diverse mission fields.
Segment 3 — Interview with Abhijeet Lall: Central India Missions
Next, Dr. Chaps speaks with Abhijeet Lall of Central India Missions, an impactful ministry reaching deep into the heart of India. Abhijeet describes how they are equipping missionaries, educating children, planting churches, and bringing the hope of Christ to unreached regions throughout central India.
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Segment 1 — Judge Blocks Mom From Exposing Daughter to Christ A shocking court decision: a judge in a divorce case has ruled that a mother cannot expose her own daughter to Jesus Christ, restricting the child from Christian teaching during visitation. Dr. Chaps reports on the legal, constitutional, and spiritual implications of this ruling and what it means for parental rights and religious freedom in America today. Segment 2 — Interview with Roy Knight: India Church of Christ Broadcasting from the International Conference on Missions (ICOM) in Atlanta, Dr. Chaps interviews Roy Knight of India Church of Christ. Roy shares how their ministry is preaching the gospel, planting churches, training indigenous leaders, and serving communities across India—advancing the Great Commission in one of the world’s most spiritually open and diverse mission fields. Segment 3 — Interview with Abhijeet Lall: Central India Missions Next, Dr. Chaps speaks with Abhijeet Lall of Central India Missions, an impactful ministry reaching deep into the heart of India. Abhijeet describes how they are equipping missionaries, educating children, planting churches, and bringing the hope of Christ to unreached regions throughout central India. Get free alerts at http://PrayInJesusName.org © 2025, Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt, PhD. Airs on NRB TV, Direct TV Ch.378, Roku, AppleTV, Amazon FireTV, AndroidTV, GoogleTV, Smart TV, iTunes and www.PrayInJesusName.org ...more Show the full description Show less Segment 1 — Judge Blocks Mom From Exposing Daughter to Christ
A shocking court decision: a judge in a divorce case has ruled that a mother cannot expose her own daughter to Jesus Christ, restricting the child from Christian teaching during visitation. Dr. Chaps reports on the legal, constitutional, and spiritual implications of this ruling and what it means for parental rights and religious freedom in America today.
Segment 2 — Interview with Roy Knight: India Church of Christ
Broadcasting from the International Conference on Missions (ICOM) in Atlanta, Dr. Chaps interviews Roy Knight of India Church of Christ. Roy shares how their ministry is preaching the gospel, planting churches, training indigenous leaders, and serving communities across India—advancing the Great Commission in one of the world’s most spiritually open and diverse mission fields.
Segment 3 — Interview with Abhijeet Lall: Central India Missions
Next, Dr. Chaps speaks with Abhijeet Lall of Central India Missions, an impactful ministry reaching deep into the heart of India. Abhijeet describes how they are equipping missionaries, educating children, planting churches, and bringing the hope of Christ to unreached regions throughout central India.
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0:00 Next on PIJN News, doctor Chaps reports on these important issues.0:05 Today, we're at the International Conference on Missions, I c o m, in Atlanta, Georgia, where I will be interviewing missionaries and mission sending organizations0:17 that promote the gospel of Jesus Christ, especially in South Asia.0:22 Former Navy chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmidt took a stand to defend religious freedom by daring to pray publicly in Jesus' name. Now he helps you by reporting the news, discerning the spirits, and praying the0:34 scriptures. Would you pray with us? Here's Doctor. Chaps.0:40 God bless you in Jesus' name. My name is chaplain Gordon James Kligichmidt, doctor Chaps, and you're watching PIJN News. On this show, we like to do 3 things. We report the news, we discern the spirits,0:52 and we pray the scriptures in Jesus' name. In a few minutes, we will have interviews that we took at the Atlanta Conference for International Conference on Mission.1:04 We will interview Roy Knight with India Church of Christ and Roger Rosenberg of Capitol Hill Faith. But first the news. A judge has declared that a mom1:16 should lose her daughter if the daughter attends church with the mom. There's a custody battle in a particular case according to Life News,1:28 where a judge wants to cancel a mother's parental rights simply because she is a Christian. Specifically, the judge ruled that the custodial mother, quote, is a1:40 fit parent except for the fact that she is a Christian, end quote. This fight is between 2 people who, by the way, never got married, but their daughter
1:52 is now nearly a teenager. And the coming decision by the state of Maine and their supreme court will determine if a lower court judge in the state can simply overturn
2:03 the constitutional religious rights of parents to raise their son or daughter in the Christian faith. Liberty Counsel has been fighting this. Our friend Matt Staver has explained that the
2:15 judge's trial court ruling in the dispute between mother and father is well into the extreme range or beyond extreme. A custody war erupted
2:27 when the father who did not have custody of the teenage daughter decided that he was opposed to the mother's conversion to Christianity and didn't want his teenage
2:38 daughter going to church, specifically demanding that the court must ban his daughter's attendance at a particular church where the mother was attending.
2:51 But based on the counsel to the court from a Marxist former sociality professor, Christianity was harmful to the young teenager's upbringing. And so
3:03 the judge sided with the Marxist and ruled that the daughter cannot associate with any of her church friends or be a member of Calvary Chapel Portland,
3:15 Maine. Here's part of the ruling, quote, if Ava meets a new friend outside of Calvary and that person begins attending Calvary, Ava must also cut ties with
3:27 that friend. Ava, the daughter, cannot attend any Christmas, Easter, or other Christian event or celebration at any church, cannot attend any weddings or funerals or
3:38 even hospital visits with anyone who is associated with Calvary Chapel. Ava cannot have any contact or participation with any religious
3:50 organization. Can't even volunteer at the Salvation Army or food bank or homeless shelter or crisis pregnancy center. Eva cannot read the Bible or religious literature
4:01 with her mother or be exposed to any religious philosophy, end quote. That demand from the non custodial father was enforced by the court upon the mother who had custody of the teen all
4:13 these years. But even with that extremism, the judge wasn't done with his anti Christian agenda. Matt Staver, who argued the little girl's case before the state Supreme Court gave the
4:25 following quote. The judge mocked Ava and Emily's faith and purposefully refused to capitalize the word God, something I've never seen.
4:37 The judge even chastised Emily for allowing the church pastor to pray for Ava. The judge ruled that Emily, the mother, could not take Ava, the daughter, to any church
4:49 unless Matt, the absentee father, approves. And Matt, of course, has steadfastly refused to approve any church for his daughter to
5:01 attend, end quote. That's the news. Our thanks to LifeSite News and Liberty Council for that report. You know, I'm I'm really
5:13 concerned, confused when it seems like the judge in this case is banning Christianity and saying to you, the
5:25 Christian parents, you happen to live in Maine, you don't have a constitutional right to take your own children to church. Forget about the absentee father who's dictating without custody from afar. He
5:37 has more important rights to ban your religion in your own home or in your own practice or in your own attendance of external meetings outside of the
5:49 home. You can go to secular meetings, but you can't take your daughter to church. Not even a wedding, not even a Bible study in your own home. Can't expose her to Christian
6:00 literature. This is state kidnapping. They're doing it in a subtle way. The mother still has custody in the church, but from a distance, the
6:12 father who is atheist and antichrist has kidnapped the ability of the mother to be able to do what she is saying. The Bible says this and
6:24 condemns that state sponsored kidnapping in Exodus 21, He who kidnaps a man and sells him or if he's found in his hand shall surely be put to death. The Bible also says, raise up a
6:36 child in the way she should go. And when she is old, she should not depart from it. So, Emily, mother, we discern upon you the spirit of God. You are standing up for your daughter, Ava. And Ava, you
6:47 continue to go to those bible studies. You continue to go to church with your friends. Forget about what the court says. Forget about what the judge says. This is gonna be overturned at the Maine Supreme Court. We pray
6:59 that in Jesus' name. Let's pray. Father in heaven, we pray for a victory in the Maine Supreme Court or even the United States Supreme Court to set a precedent for parents who wanna take their kids to church,
7:11 that parental rights will prevail, that religious freedom will prevail, and nobody, not a father, not court, not any human can forbid that
7:23 which God commands, and that is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. God, we bless this young mother and daughter and pray that they prevail and have religious freedom to worship you
7:35 in Jesus' name. Amen. We'll take a short break. When we come back, we have interviews from Icom.
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8:48 Exposing the fruitless deeds of darkness. Here's Doctor. Welcome back. I'm Doctor. Chaps. I'm at the ICOM conference in Atlanta, Georgia with my new friend Roy
9:00 Knight is from Chennai, India and you lead a ministry called Arise, Shine, India, Band of Brothers.
9:08 And Band of Brothers. Yes, sir.
9:10 I like the shirt and I why why do you choose this name? Arise, Shine, India.
9:17 The Arise Shine is the main thing I choose in that India is in darkness because of their religious. They doesn't know Jesus Christ, and Jesus is the light of the world. Wow. Isaiah chapter 60
9:29 verse 1, then I was baptized. Then I was 15 years old, I realized that the India need light. So I arise, shine. So as a preacher, I named it arise, shine
9:41 ministries, India ministries. That's why we choose this name.
9:44 I like that. And I think that is a quote from the Psalms or from Isaiah Isaiah chapter 60 verse 1. 0, Isaiah 60. I remember that. There's a beautiful song that I used to learn.
9:55 Arise, shine, for thy light has come, and the glory of the Lord is risen
10:02 upon thee. Yes.
10:04 So what do you do in Chennai, India?
10:08 We preach the gospel, the great commission, as according to Matthew chapter 28 verse 18, 19, 20. That is my vision. That's what dedicated my life to go and preach gospel and be
10:19 preaching gospel since 19 sixties. I'm the fifth generation Christian, My great grandfather was a Hindu man. When he believed Jesus Christ, he was thrown out. That's what he became an
10:31 abundant homeless man, but he never gave up Jesus Christ. And he teach to his children and children to the fifth generation. And I learned the story about preaching the gospel that reach. So we
10:42 preach Jesus Christ in the rural village where the church does not exist and teach them the gospel, make them disciples. And also, when people believe in Jesus Christ, they are persecuted,
10:55 became an untouchables. So Matthew chapter 25 verse 35 36 talks about I was hunger, you gave me food.
11:02 I was thirsty, you gave me water. I was
11:05 a stranger, you took me in. I was naked, you clothed me. I was sick. You came to me. I was in prison. You visited me. That's the work we do. And we have evangelized, hundred and 9 villages
11:17 so far, and also hundred and 9 pastors are serving in different rural village where there is no even proper water, electricity, and the life. So that's what we
11:28 do.
11:29 In what state is Chennai? Tamil Nadu. Tamil Nadu. And they have special language there? We speak Tamil. Yeah. It is interesting. I have been there, and
11:41 I remember in the marketplace, where people are buying and selling the fruits and vegetables, there are Christian evangelists who go there and sing songs.
11:51 Yes. Always we do that same every rural area, even villages in the markets in Chennai. I was persecuted when I was preaching the gospel, but it always happened.
12:03 You're showing something on your arm.
12:05 Yes, sir.
12:05 Why is this scar here? I see 1, 2, 3, you were
12:08 It is because going and preaching the gospel, and they broke my fifth carpal bone because I baptized people.
12:16 Look at this. Look at the size of his hand, and you can see where the bone is is not even healed. It is like jagged.
12:24 And my dad is 1 of the past. He was preaching the gospel in in center of Chennai City. When he went to when he was sick, he went to a doctor and they know that he's a preacher. 1 of the doctors saw that he's preaching in
12:35 the street and he just neglected him, not given attention for his sick and he was killed in the hospital because he's a Christian. He's a preacher. He's a pastor. So we never
12:47 give up. You know, my dad teach me, do not fear not which kill the body. Fear the Lord who can kill the body and soul in hell. So, that's what every man, every
12:59 pastors are working with us as a partners in different villages. We learned that we'll never give up. We preach gospel even if
13:06 we face persecution. I'm observing after my 6 times I have traveled to India that there is still a caste system.
13:15 Yes.
13:16 Maybe it is not legal like it used to be the law, but but still they have the high caste of Brahmins, the low caste of untouchables, and then below that are the Christians. Yes. There's like a
13:27 sixth group. You convert out of Hinduism and become a Christian, your family rejects you. The government rejects you. Yes. They take away your benefits.
13:36 Everything.
13:37 Your health care, and they and they persecute you.
13:39 Yes.
13:40 Your friends have suffered? Yes.
13:43 All of our church members in under the 9 villages suffering the same. Even my life, my family being suffered. I'd like to let you know about the first caste system. It was
13:55 divided by 4. The first caste is always priesthood, education. You can see a doctors in America, engineers who are the the high caste who have a privilege to go to college and study
14:07 and get a job all over the world. The second is kind of the police officers, soldiers. They can be on the second caste. The third 1 is the landlord and merchandise. They occupy all the land.
14:19 They have all the grains and merchandise to sell. And the fourth caste is Dalit, the commoners, who's a letting cleaners who are street cleaners and their their home cleaners, their drivers. And this
14:30 forecast still Hinduism. But when we go and preach the gospel, anyone believe Jesus Christ from this caste, they are treated. They're just thrown out of the system as an
14:42 untouchables, and they have they became beggars. They became homeless. Their their privilege has been taken. Even their degrees, even their families send them out and they became homeless and poor,
14:54 but that's what happening. That's what the Arise Shine India, the mission came to support the persecuted Christians.
15:01 And how do you support them practically? If somebody gives money to your ministry somehow, it will be spent to do what?
15:10 It'll be spent to support the pastor in the local village. He needs not too much because he doesn't have air conditioned houses. He doesn't have a car. He doesn't nothing to do with
15:22 that. He he put that money in a best way to care for his people in the church, feeding them, giving water to them, drilling a water well, and clotting, and
15:34 giving them medicines, and also give them a self supporting project like solving mission for the ladies and cows for milking project to the men's in the villages. So each
15:45 funds will be supported for the benefit of preaching the gospel and to support the persecuted Christians in India.
15:54 And you do this because Jesus said in Matthew 25, you were teaching me what? Yes.
15:59 Matthew chapter 25 35 36. He's telling. If you see in 34, he talks about blessed of my father. He need the kingdom of God because it is
16:11 prepared from the beginning of the world. And he tells on the right hand side, come blessed of my father. And he talks about from
16:17 the 35, I was hunger. You gave me food. I was thirsty. You gave me water.
16:23 I was a stranger. You took me in.
16:25 I was I was naked. You clothed me. I was sick. I was
16:28 in prison. You came and visited me. And this was the mission because in action, you know, that's why we do that.
16:35 There is a website I want to send people to. It's a QR code. Oh, there's a QR code. We will try to put this on the screen. What is the website?
16:44 Website is indiachurchofchrist dot org.
16:48 Indiachurchofchrist dot org. And we will try to put this QR code full screen, so you can click it from home on your smartphone, and please give a
17:00 small donation today. Roy Knight, I wanna honor you in Jesus' name.
17:05 Amen. Thank you, father. Thank you, brother.
17:08 Okay. I'm doctor Chaps. We'll be right back.
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19:51 Defending your religious freedom, here is Doctor.
19:54 Welcome back, I'm Doctor. Chapps. We're at the ICOM conference in Atlanta, Georgia with my new friend Abhijit Lal is from Madhya Pradesh, which is in Central India and he is leading
20:06 helping to lead with his family, the Central India Christian Mission. Central India Christian Mission. Welcome to the program, Abhijit. How are you,
20:16 sir?
20:16 Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm doing okay. Thank you for having me on it.
20:20 So you are in you're from India?
20:22 Yes, sir.
20:22 But you are here in America at the ICOM. Why?
20:25 Here at the ICOM, my mom and dad, even my grandparents have been coming since a long, long time. Ever since I was a child, I remember coming here, reconnecting with
20:37 friends, making new friends, making connections with churches. There's a lot of supporting churches that support our organization that come here, so we're able to give them updates of what God is doing
20:49 over there. And what is your organization doing over there? Yes, sir. So we have been able to plant 5600 churches in India, Nepal, Bhutan,
21:01 Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and Sri Lanka. We've been able to start 60000 house churches. And on a given Sunday, there's 1700000.0 people who worship our
21:12 resurrected savior on a on a given Sunday. We've been able to rescue 82000 children from the bondage of slavery. 500 of those kids are
21:23 full time pastors now. In our bible colleges, we've been able to train over 28000 young men who are on fire, who are who are who are
21:35 bringing the gospel to the dark places of India. So God has been good. God has been faithful. And it is like giving the the 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish
21:47 in Jesus' hand, sitting back and and watching what only Jesus could do. Now,
21:53 India is a traditionally Hindu nation.
21:56 Yes, sir.
21:57 And the Christians are still in the minority there. The government says, oh, maybe less than 3 percent are Christian. But in my travels, I have learned it is more.
22:07 Yes. It is correct.
22:08 Do you think is the percentage that are now becoming Christian?
22:11 So the like you said, the government and the news will tell you that it's less than 3 percent people who are bible believing Christians. But Evangelical Fellowship of India has done a
22:23 survey. In the last 10 years, the percentage has gone up to 8 percent. Wow. God is on the move. God is working over there.
22:32 There's a revival happening.
22:33 Absolutely. Absolutely.
22:35 And among the young people, how old are you?
22:37 36.
22:38 36? He is so young.
22:39 No. No. No.
22:40 But but your parents and your grandparents started this mission.
22:43 My parents started this mission, and my grandparents were also missionaries. But this particular mission, my my parents have started. Yeah. And, you know, what is happening in
22:55 India right now, it is like the book of acts coming to life. There is a lot of persecution against Christians, lot of persecution against any minority, even Muslims.
23:07 Modi, the prime minister is the worst prime minister we've had in the history of India.
23:12 Oh no.
23:13 And he's wanting to make the entire nation of India, Hindu nation. But even in the midst of all of that, even though they've thrown hundreds and thousands
23:25 of pastors in prison, they've they've burnt down churches, they've put pastors in prison and assassinated over 30 pastors saying that they were trying to escape prison, but God is
23:37 working in a in a mighty way. We are seeing record number of church attendance, record number of church plants, record number of baptisms. The church is on fire in
23:49 India, and it it is only God is taking what Satan is intending for evil and he's making it into so much good.
23:57 That is like the book of acts. I mean, when when Peter and John, they were they were in prison and and like the gates opened and they were able to escape with their lives. But other
24:09 places, are, like you said, people are being beaten or jailed or killed for Jesus Christ and for the word of their testimony, that they are the martyrs that is are spoken of in the book of
24:21 Revelation. And you have met these people. You have served among them. Have any of your friends been put in jail?
24:28 Many of them, sir. And it is an honor for me now to be stateside. Last year, we were in India. There was a assassination attempt on my father. God saved us from there.
24:40 God saved my life, spared my life, my family's life. And now that we're here, we wanna represent Jesus. We wanna represent our brothers in Christ in India and and really
24:52 watch this movement grow. I've I've heard testimonies of pastors who've been in prison many times. Every single time they come out, they have 10 times the fire and the passion and and they're
25:04 preaching the gospel on the streets. There's no stopping them. And they they can burn the church buildings. They can put the pastors prison. But this is the work and movement
25:15 of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, and it cannot stop.
25:20 Amen. I understand the problem. I've been to India myself 6 times, but you're also reaching in the other countries. You mentioned Nepal, where I just spent a month.
25:31 And also, did you say Bangladesh? Yes, sir. I'm going there in January.
25:36 That is great.
25:37 So I'm I'm so excited to see my friends are working hand in hand. Americans and Indians together to reach the nations for Jesus Christ and the gospel.
25:49 Abhijit, I want you to promote maybe your website and what can Americans do to support you?
25:54 Absolutely. So our website is indiamission dot org. Indiamission dot org. Please pray for us. You can contact us, support us,
26:06 get to know more about the ministry, get to know how we can be involved in this movement together because, you and I are different, completely different. We look different. We talk differently, but
26:18 we are part of 1 body, and this movement is of Jesus, and we would love to connect with all of you.
26:25 Would you mind to say a prayer or a blessing for our audience?
26:29 Yes, absolutely. I would love
26:30 to pray. Please.
26:31 Yes, let's pray. Father God in heaven, we come to you and thank you for all the blessings. Thank you so much that even though we look different, we sound different, but we are all 1 in Jesus. Father, I pray that you
26:43 continue to help this movement. You've called us to the great commission. Whether we are in America or anywhere in the world, we're supposed to represent you in a very powerful way. And I pray that
26:55 that your movement would continue, that we would be on fire for you, that we would reach out to people, that we would make disciples, and we would continue to spread your light. Jesus, our goal is to make
27:07 you famous and make heaven crowded. And I pray on this side of eternity, we can do that every single day. Thank you so much for all the blessings and thank you above all for Jesus. It's in his wonderful,
27:18 powerful, and resurrected name I pray. Amen.
27:22 In Jesus name, amen. This is Abhijit Lal. His website is India mission dot o r g.
27:29 Did I say that right?
27:30 Yes, sir.
27:30 India mission dot o r g. Don't give to us today. We want you to donate financially to India mission dot org. They have 5600 churches and
27:42 1700000.0 believers in all of the countries that he has mentioned. They are rescuing children. They are training pastors. India mission dot org. Please give your best gift to them today
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