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Mark Spengler Colorado Ballot Initiatives to Protect Children and Families
September 26, 2025 · 29 min
Segment 1: Mark Spangler of ProtectKidsColorado.org explains three Colorado ballot initiatives—protecting girls’ sports, stopping child sex trafficking, and banning gender mutilation surgeries on minors.
Segment 2: Spangler shares why these initiatives are vital for safeguarding children, preserving family values, and standing up to harmful agendas.
Segment 3: A deeper look at how Coloradans can support these measures, and what impact they could have nationwide if successful.
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Segment 1: Mark Spangler of ProtectKidsColorado.org explains three Colorado ballot initiatives—protecting girls’ sports, stopping child sex trafficking, and banning gender mutilation surgeries on minors. Segment 2: Spangler shares why these initiatives are vital for safeguarding children, preserving family values, and standing up to harmful agendas. Segment 3: A deeper look at how Coloradans can support these measures, and what impact they could have nationwide if successful. Get free alerts at http://PrayInJesusName.org © 2025, Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt, PhD. Airs on NRB TV, Direct TV Ch.378, Roku, AppleTV, Amazon FireTV, AndroidTV, GoogleTV, Smart TV, iTunes and www.PrayInJesusName.org ...more Show the full description Show less Segment 1: Mark Spangler of ProtectKidsColorado.org explains three Colorado ballot initiatives—protecting girls’ sports, stopping child sex trafficking, and banning gender mutilation surgeries on minors.
Segment 2: Spangler shares why these initiatives are vital for safeguarding children, preserving family values, and standing up to harmful agendas.
Segment 3: A deeper look at how Coloradans can support these measures, and what impact they could have nationwide if successful.
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0:00 Next on PIJN News, Doctor. Japs reports on these important issues.0:06 3, Colorado ballot initiatives are designed to protect girls sports, stop child sex trafficking, and protect kids from gender mutilation surgeries. Today, we interview Mark0:17 Spangler with protect kids Colorado dot org.0:22 Former Navy Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmidt took a stand to defend religious freedom by daring to pray publicly in Jesus' name. Now he helps you by reporting the news, discerning the spirits, and praying the0:34 scriptures. Would you pray with us? Here's doctor Chaps.0:40 God bless you in Jesus name. My name is Chaplain Gordon James Klingeschmidt, doctor Chaps, and you're watching PIJN News. On this show, we like to do 3 things. We report the news, we discern the0:51 spirits, and we pray the scriptures in Jesus name. On today's show, we have a live interview in studio with Mark Spangler, who has been my friend for over 10 years, and he is1:03 working with protectkidscolorado dot org to create ballot initiatives. This is something that puts on the ballot for the voters the right to decide up or1:15 down whether 3 important child safety issues will become state law of Colorado. Welcome to the program, Mark Spangler. How are you today?1:24 I am well. Thank you, Gordon.1:26 I am so excited to have you here and it's good to see you again after this used to be your office actually. You're coming back home to our studio. Tell me about1:36
1:39 You know, last year we began to be involved with something that has infected, it's become corrosive in our society, it's the idea of what's called gender
1:50 dysphoria, A child may be born or think they're being the opposite sex of what they are born biologically. And as we began to see what was
2:02 happening in Colorado and what our government was doing to not only perpetuate this but to keep parents from participating in their child's understanding of their own personal sexuality,
2:15 we got involved, and we had to do something. And last year was quite a learning experience.
2:20 So the Democrats in the legislature are passing bad laws that take away parental rights, but what's what's the way around that? What is this idea of a ballot petition initiative?
2:30 Well, when you have a 1 party state like we do, and there is no recourse in terms of the legislative acts that can occur, the only answer for the citizens is to do an end
2:42 run around that legislature and pass laws.
2:46 And put it on the ballot. So there's particular language that's being introduced. 3 different initiatives are now being drawn. They've been approved by the the ballot committee, the board, and now
2:58 The
2:59 final board. Uh-huh.
3:00 What what has to happen? We have to gather a bunch of petitions or it will not be on the ballot?
3:04 Yes. Last year, they fought us. We you're given 180 days after you get through title board. They fought us every step of the way, delayed us, cut our time in half. We actually had to go to the
3:16 supreme court of Colorado to get our wording approved for these ballot initiatives. So last year was a learning lesson. Learned some things the hard way. This year, we came back stronger, bigger, with
3:28 more numbers, and we now have over 1000 petition circulators that will help us to get this issue on the ballot so that the voters and citizens of Colorado can decide what's in the best
3:40 interest of their children.
3:41 So can any registered voter who lives in Colorado become a petition circulator? What do they do? Carry a clipboard and get their friends to sign this?
3:50 Exactly. It's very simple, and that's the only requirement. You're a registered Colorado voter, and we're seeing more and more individuals say, wanna be a part of this. We're seeing
4:02 mama bears get involved that in the historically, maybe would have stayed at home, but when it comes to their children, they're very interested in letting the people of Colorado decide this issue.
4:13 So, okay, how many petitions do you need? And if you have 1000 circulators, each 1 maybe has to gather how many petitions?
4:20 Well, each petition will allow them up to 40 signatures. What we're seeing happen is that many people are taking we have captains. We've organized the state in 6
4:32 regions. Yeah. We have our front range, upper and lower, southern, eastern, western, mountain region, and those have leaders. And within them, every county, we have 64 of them in Colorado, as a
4:44 petition captain, if you will. And so that is how we've done it this year, and we are very encouraged with that structure, if you will, that gets the job done. We need
4:55 125000 signatures minimum, but what we find in Colorado with the secretary of state and some of the shenanigans that have gone on in our state government, we're going for
5:07 200000, maybe 250000 so that none of them will be thrown out for various reasons.
5:13 And any volunteer can organize this, but you can't just print out your own petition and begin signing. You have to receive a paper petition from 1 of the region captains. How do they get that
5:25 in their hands?
5:27 Well, when they come on to our website, which is Protect Kids Colorado, they have the opportunity to sign up to volunteer in any number of categories. 1 of the courses being a petition
5:38 circulator. When they do that, we convey that to the region coordinators and then the region coordinators can convey that to their county captains. And that's how you engage.
5:49 And then you'll meet that captain. You'll get a clipboard maybe or or a paper petition that does it have to be notarized or just witnessed, or what do you do as a circulator?
5:58 Yeah. You simply go in front of the grocery store, public library, your friends, your neighbors, maybe your church, and say, hey, would you like to sign 1 of these 3 petitions? And they explain all
6:10 3. As you mentioned in the beginning, no irreversible surgeries on minors, no sex trafficking allowed, or if you're convicted of that, you go straight to prison
6:22 with no parole. And the third 1, of course, is we don't think it's fair for boys to be allowed to participate and compete against girls anymore in girls sports.
6:32 Yeah. And that includes maybe access to their school locker rooms or violating the girls privacy, safety, fairness, competition. I'm for all of these things. I I would sign that petition.
6:44 What if I can't be a circulator? How do I sign it?
6:49 Again, you would go to the website and we communicate by email primarily to all of the people in Colorado and that email which would come out every week or 2
7:01 letting people know of our progress, what's happening, how you can be involved, where you can find a petition to sign, that information is there.
7:08 Okay, but you can't just sign it on the line, you have to physically sign it with a pen and paper, so you have to find somebody who's circulating that, But we'll we'll get you the information. Go to
7:20 protect kids Colorado dot org. Again, protect kids Colorado dot org. Someone in your church needs to be doing this. Maybe it's you. Let's take a short break. More with Mark Spangler after
7:32 this.
7:33 This is PIJN News, defending your religious freedom. Doctor Chaps will be right back.
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10:17 Welcome back, I'm Doctor. Chapps, joined again by Mark Spangler, who is the treasurer, the communications director. He's doing the interviews. He's publicity guy today. Mark Spangler is a
10:29 hero, and he is taking a stand. Mark, I've known you for years. You're a prayer minister. You're involved in the pro life movement. Introduce yourself to our audience again, and why do you think Colorado is so
10:41 important?
10:42 Well, my wife and I, when we were young and became followers of Jesus, got involved in missions, and we're working in Europe and the Middle East for about 8 years. And
10:54 from that, God broke my heart in 19 85. I guess that dates me a bit, but he broke my heart because he showed me how he was he was he had his
11:06 heart was broken over the loss of sons and daughters that couldn't be born because they'd been aborted. And so I volunteered in all the ways that I could to support that effort of
11:18 protecting the most vulnerable in society among us. And what has happened and since being involved in the prayer garden with you here in Colorado Springs and Fountain
11:29 and making that an issue as well for people who wanna pray, we realized it's a spiritual battle. And so this was a natural when we were challenged a couple well, in 20 23 to do
11:41 something about this. About 35 of us gathered here in Colorado Springs and said, okay. What can we do, Lord? And as we began to pray together, that 35 whittled down to about 5 or 6 or 7, including
11:53 a state senator. We have an excellent spokesperson, Erin Lee, who's a mama bear herself because of what happened to her child in high school, actually her 12 year old. And so
12:04 that's been my background in history and you know we didn't protect them in the womb. Now we're having to protect them in school, in society at large, and
12:16 we believe that in Colorado we have the opportunity, just like in the Old Testament, because we're the literal and the figurative high place of the nation with 58 peaks, all over 14000 feet,
12:29 And when you look at what God did in the nation of Israel, particularly the southern kingdom, that when people would understand what God had prescribed to bless their nation
12:41 through his laws, through his encouragements. They would go out and they'd clean up those places of perversion, of idolatry worship, those kinds of things. And so when that happened then
12:53 that nation might have 20 years of peace, no war, because they were lining themselves with what God had said, if you'll do these things, I'll bless you as a nation. And so
13:05 Colorado, I believe, has a very significant place in God's plan for America and even beyond because we're the literal and figurative high place of the nation. And so what happens here
13:16 spiritually? We were the first to to legalize abortion. 19 67.
13:21 How sad.
13:22 We were we have the the transgender surgery capital of the country in Trinidad, Colorado. We weren't maybe the tip of the spear, but we were right behind it with the legalization of
13:34 marijuana. All these things that negatively touch our people and our our children in particular.
13:41 Well, you're doing something, not just spiritually with your leader your past leadership as board member of the Gateway Prayer Garden, which I'm also a board member, but also now
13:53 physically and politically with these ballot initiatives, where circulators are gathering petitions for 3 different issues. Let's recap these 3 issues in a little more detail. The first 1
14:05 that caught my attention is to protect children, minors, from being subjected by adults to irreversible sex change
14:17 operations or permanently sterilizing hormone treatments. Is it possible to turn a little boy into a little girl if you just, you know, whack away their their body parts?
14:28 How does that work?
14:29 Absolutely not. They will always remain the God given biological gender they had at birth. We have 27 states in America now that are addressing this
14:41 issue of what's called gender dysphoria and have been passing laws to protect the children, protect them from doctors, protect them from whatever might come out of a
14:52 movement locally within their states to bring this kind of harm. And it's devastating. A child, a young girl who has her breasts cut off or who decides that, you know, believes
15:04 and she's being supported even through her school system, which is the case in Colorado, she undergoes surgeries, puberty blockers, things that will not only devastate who she
15:16 is and be a lie to the way God made her, but then she becomes captive to the medical industry probably for almost 1000000 dollars the rest of her life, what she will require for
15:27 medications and things of that nature.
15:30 And now they're injecting some kids with these puberty blockers as if puberty is a disease and you got to cure that and delay that and postpone that so that they can
15:42 age out and get their own surgery, maybe after age 18 or 21. What does your ballot initiative language say about stopping the abuse of minors in this?
15:54 Well, basically that physicians, anyone participating actively in these promoting and providing these surgeries, because
16:06 for example, the laws have been passed over the past several years in Colorado that give doctors cover. If no 1 can sue them, for example, for performing
16:18 an irreversible surgery on a child. We have situations here now in our state, and this has gone on for several years, they've been building this in such a way now that parents have no
16:30 way to really intervene. So doctors are off the hook, teachers, people who are part of the education system, who are allowing
16:41 children to choose what they think their biological gender are. These people are off the hook legally and administratively.
16:49 I'm going show this card. It has a little QR code. If you're a smartphone user, you know how to access this with the phone app in your phone. This QR code will give you
17:01 access to all the tools at protectkidscolorado dot org. Let's take a short break. When we come back, we'll explain the other 2 ballot initiatives.
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19:57 Welcome back, I'm Doctor. Chaps, joined for 1 more segment with Mark Spengler, who is leading ProtectKidsColorado dot org. Again, we have the QR code. You can,
20:09 you know, hover over this with your phone app on your smartphone. It'll take you right to the website, protectkidscolorado dot org. Mark, we discussed the
20:20 mutilation prevention ballot initiative, but what are the other 2 ballot initiatives that we want to talk about?
20:26 Well, 1 would be the stopping of sex trafficking in our state by putting an individual who in any way sells a
20:38 minor for sex. And we're at a crossroads here. We have the interstate highways, north south, I 25, and interstate 70 that cut across our state, which have become nexus for child
20:49 trafficking.
20:50 But isn't that already illegal? I mean, child sex prostitution, that sounds horrible.
20:55 Well, when you have a legislature and a governor that promotes the sexualization of children in multiple categories, you're not gonna get the enforcement of what laws may be on the books that have been
21:06 passed.
21:07 Interesting.
21:08 Critical and critical issue right there. You can pass a law, but it's the enforcement side that has to occur.
21:15 So people are found guilty of this, but they're let out on parole, given a swat on the wrist. Don't do that anymore, but they go right back to it.
21:23 That's right. And that's what the laws allow them to do at this point. This initiative, anyone convicted of engaging in
21:36 the child sexual trafficking of children will go to prison with no parole. So this thing has some pretty strong teeth in it.
21:45 And they fulfill their full sentence, maybe it's 5 years, 10 years, but not eligible for parole to come out and start abusing kids again.
21:54 That's what the initiative says, clearly.
21:57 Okay. And the last 1 is to protect girls sports from boys entering their competitions, their scholarships, their record books, their locker rooms, violating
22:08 girls privacy and safety. Is this a big thing in Colorado?
22:13 Yes, it is. And while we've seen national recognition of this with Riley Gaines, for example, losing out on her well earned
22:23 NCAA championship to a boy who was identifying as a girl. We have that issue going on in Colorado, maybe not to the same extent at the collegiate level,
22:35 but it's very real. And, you know, it it forces us to come back to what is what happened to common sense here in our society? And when you see these kinds of this kind of thinking
22:47 go on, whether you call it wokeism or whatever, you are saying, wait a minute. What is it where's the church in all this? How have we gotten to where we are today? Well, does God expect those non
22:59 believers, non followers of him and his word to hold the standards of what is good and right in society? No. Not at all. He expects those who know him know his word and how he wants to
23:11 bless everyone. They're not participating. So really our talk today is about how do we engage as followers of Jesus in demonstrating the goodness of God and
23:22 you and and knowing that that is what is the kingdom of God. Kingdom of God is just not 4 walls in a church. We've equated church with the kingdom of God, and that's not correct
23:34 on a biblical basis, in my opinion.
23:36 We we gotta get involved in politics, at least maybe not endorsing or opposing candidates. I know that's controversial, but initiative. This is where citizens have the right to
23:48 create a law that reverses some of the bad laws passed by the Democrats in the legislature. This past year, the Democrats passed and governor Polis, the openly gay governor signed into
24:00 law a parental rights revocation requiring that schools help transgenderize your children or grandchildren. And parents can't opt them out of
24:12 these pro gay lectures and if a child wants to have a different name or change their gender at school, oh, don't tell the parents about this. And if the parent tries to revoke that or the teacher
24:24 tries to interfere, no, the child has the right to create their own identity as they're being propagandized by these leftist groups online.
24:36 How would this ballot initiative prevent all that?
24:40 Oh, so in terms of Just clarify that for me, say that 1 more time. I'm
24:49 saying the sports initiative really just gets to about 20 percent of that issue. It's a larger issue in Colorado, but at least we're making a statement, hey, don't put boys on girls sports
25:01 teams.
25:01 Yes. So, these laws, again, which will have to be enforced once they're passed, They create a groundswell and a culturally
25:13 impacting effect that we believe will not only result in the protection of children but will energize perhaps a generation but energize these people
25:24 now to see, hey, I can make a difference. You know, Colorado was a leader in removing the right to life from the unborn. There needs to be something in the wind column
25:36 now, and we've done our focus groups. We did this in the beginning of the year, spent a lot of money doing it, doing our focus groups, statewide polling, etcetera, to where we know that not only are these issues
25:48 resonating with 70 to 80 percent of the populace, the voting public, but they also the wording that we've
26:00 used, I mean sometimes just a word in a ballot initiative can change the flavor of how people accept or reject. Yeah. And we've done all that detail, so we know these 3 ballot initiatives
26:11 resonate with the vast majority.
26:13 And they will pass. All we gotta do is get them on the ballot.
26:16 Exactly.
26:16 The way you get them on the ballot is to become a petition circulator. That means carry a clipboard to your church or grocery store.
26:25 Your neighbors.
26:26 Your neighbors. Just maybe you can sign it. Visit protectkidscolorado dot org and become that today. Mark, would you close us in prayer?
26:35 Sure. We love being able to pray in Jesus name, don't we, Gordon?
26:40 Yes, absolutely.
26:42 Because there's no other name
26:44 Amen.
26:44 That we can. So, father, we thank you that there are things going on in our nation that are the answers to prayer. That from the top down to the local city or county,
26:57 you are moving by your Holy Spirit to engage people in the things that heaven says are most important. We're blessing people, blessing society, rebuilding society, which is where we
27:09 are. And we know that this is a time that's been orchestrated by you, and we are so privileged to be a part of it. I can't think of a more exciting time to be alive in history, father,
27:21 than today. And so we ask for you to multiply our efforts, the work of our hands, the provision we need, all of these things to make this a success for the people and especially the children of
27:33 Colorado. And we do pray in Jesus name.
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