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The Battle of Truth in Media 0:22 Welcome to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. I'm Michelle Humphreys.0:25 And I am Naina Keegan. We are broadcasting live at NRB, the largest gathering of Christian communicators in the world, and we have some awesome wonderful guests that we are privileged to have on our0:37 program today. I will0:39 do the awesome introduction. Second to 9, amazing. He was the moderator of CNN's Inside Politics after covering the White House0:51 for CNN since March 2006. Henry became CNN's senior White House correspondent in December 2008. And starting in 20 22, Henry is cohost with1:03 Karen Turk on The Real America's Voice TV's weekday morning show. And personally, this guest, I I learned so much when I listened to him. He1:14 is the inside voice on the news, mister Ed Henry.1:19 So nice to see both of you. Very friendly faces and positive as I saw you in the hallways here at NRB, so it's nice to be on with you.1:27 We are grateful. So Yes. Henry, we wanna know stuff. What do you got? We do that1:32 Well, Grace. Can I call you Grace?1:34 Yeah. So1:35 I see the show's called Grace Grace. I thought I had 2 people named Grace. But Nina, go ahead.1:39 We already had the joke that we were gonna do that. Oh. So so I wanna know we wanna know what is happening with the news. Yeah. And why are things getting shut down1:51 and and censored?1:52 You know, look. Donald Trump called it out. Right? He called it fake news, and people on the left, people in the mainstream media freaked out. I will admit, as someone who is in the mainstream media for many years, even2:02 though I know Donald Trump well and covered him closely and, you know, and had good private relations with him as as somebody I know, I now am based in West Palm Beach, Florida, so I see him a lot. I cringed a little bit2:13 as a long time mainstream media person back in 20 16 saying, is this really what you wanna do? But over time, I've come to see the wisdom of what Donald Trump was saying. People in the media lie. Yes. I think Roger2:25 Ailes, when I was at Fox News, he called that out way before many other people. They push narratives, think about COVID, think about the vaccines, think about the Russia collusion lies2:36 targeting Donald Trump that we now know, and the border, how they've told us for so long there's not a crisis, how the Democrats I covered many of their news conferences when I was covering the White House or the2:47 Congress before that. Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton as senators, used to say we need a wall. Imagine that. Then Donald Trump was for it, and it's racist. When they were for it, it was a smart idea. And2:59 so the Russia collusion thing real quick, I covered a lot of that. I was covering the Trump White House some when he was there. And his administration was, you know, being hindered, and their efforts,3:11 their power was curtailed by all these investigations that we now know were lies based on lies.3:16 Right.3:16 And so my point is what's happening with the news, It's finally catching up to them, I think. And so my point about myself is when I was inside the mainstream media, I kinda cringed at first. Oh, do we really wanna call3:27 it fake news? And I don't believe everyone is fake news, to be clear. But I think there is a lot of fake news. And now with Real America's Voice that, like a lot of your streaming outlets as well, whether we're on Roku3:38 and Apple TV, our own app, you can download it, Real America's Voice. We don't have those kinds of restrictions. I'm not saying we're perfect. I'm not saying all we say is the truth. Nobody's perfect. That's part of the3:48 problem is people in the mainstream media act like they're perfect, act like what they have to say is the gospel is far from it. And many times they twist the facts, they push a narrative, and they lie. So you know what?3:59 Fake news probably does apply. Donald Trump was right.4:02 Exactly. What what I personally wanna know, and I'm always asking, like, you are a true investigative journalist.4:09 Thank you.4:10 You dig and drill down, and you get the story. Yeah. Where are the other investigative journalists?4:16 There are not a lot left. Seriously. Yeah. I've always tried to not be opinion first, pundit first. I think we have too many people already giving their opinions. I wanna try to bring some facts to the table. Look.4:27 Doctor Naomi Wolf is on our show every Thursday on Real America's Voice. She's a journalist in part and part a commentator, but she's damn smart and was and I think courage is what she brings to it as well.4:39 Too many people in Washington, too many people in journalism in New York, all these big cities wanna be liked, wanna be part of the crowd. And if you step out and challenge the official government narrative on things4:51 like the vaccine, you might get canceled. You get laughed at. You get mocked. And doctor Wolf is somebody who I'd highlight, who has spoken truth to power in raising questions. You don't always have all the5:02 answers. Like I said, we're not perfect, but at least have the guts to raise some tough questions.5:07 Right.5:07 When trouble is in office, they're pounding the man every day with some lies, some facts, and a whole lot of questions because they wanted to hound him. Now Biden's there. The man doesn't have a news conference for5:18 months on end. Everybody looks the other way because we know he can't answer the questions. He's not even all there.5:24 Ice crease. You know? That's,5:25 like Yeah.5:25 Oh, he5:25 got 2 scoops today. Big news.5:28 But, you know, at a certain point, you know, the media is helping create the world that they're gonna live in. Their kids, their grandkids are going to live in5:40 this this evil that they're creating.5:42 It's evil they've created, and they live in a bubble where they don't feel necessarily because they're inflated salaries and other things. The Bidenflation that I was talking to some of my colleagues here, and they were5:52 like, I can't believe I paid 5 dollars for a bottle of water in Orlando. And, again, we're based in West Palm Beach, so, there are parts to that that are more middle class and parts to that on the Palm Beach Island side6:03 that are quite rich. And so 5 dollars for a bottle of water in Palm Beach, you might well, that's just standard. There's all these rich people there. Right? In Orlando, where where families are going to Disney World, my6:13 colleague was pointing out, I thought it would be it wouldn't be 5 dollars. And I said, you know what? I think, honestly, we get out in the country like you both do, and we see what real Americans are paying. This is6:24 Biden inflation. Imagine I'm sure you've seen in the hotel. There's a lot of people here, at the Marriott for the religious broadcasters convention that we're at, and then a lot of 4 or 5 people in a6:36 family going to Disney World. Right?6:38 Oh, yeah.6:39 How how do they afford the tickets, the food, the airline? I remember my parents taking me. It was a big adventure when I was a kid. Yeah. Whether you're going to Orlando or Anaheim, Disney's gone woke. So I I don't know6:50 that we wanna spend our money there anymore.6:52 Right.6:52 But there's a lot of families who I don't begrudge them if if freedom, you know, of choice and and and and speech in terms of if you wanna bring your family somewhere, I'm not gonna tell you. I'm very libertarian, like,7:03 but I think they have a woke agenda that we should expose. They do. But how does that family of 4 how does that family of 5 afford a vacation, whether it's Disney World or the Grand Canyon? It's crazy right now. Well, it7:14 is. Those reporters don't pay they don't realize that 5 dollar bottle. They look the other way that Biden's inflation. Biden was, the inflation was down here when Trump was in office. Exactly. Now it's up here, and7:24 Biden's kept saying it's transitory. He lied. He kept saying that I inherited this from Trump. That was a lie too.7:31 Right. Exactly. Borders closed and all this, you know, every every single thing. And, you know, if you wanna know what the truth is, see who is getting shut down Yeah. And see what's happening. And I know even our own7:42 ministry gets shut down a lot. They say that, you know, it's hate speech. It's it's blasphemous. It goes against people.7:47 And it's straight out of the Bible. Right.7:49 You quote from the Bible, and it's hate speech. It's interesting.7:52 And it's about love.7:53 And and you've7:54 seen Target? What's going on there? It's not just the the tuck bathing suit thing that there's a crisis. They've got this satanic clothing Yes. You saw this?8:03 Yes.8:03 I'm sorry. Pride month.8:05 Yes.8:05 Why is it inspired by Satan? I think we know.8:07 Well, and here and why is that easy to believe in? Yeah. It's a it's a supernatural being just like Jesus. Why are you why is that okay? Yep. And it's just that you you have to wonder about all of this, but it is8:19 not, you know, right now we're in such a divide that it is really good versus evil. It isn't right left. It isn't, you know, democratic justice.8:27 It is a battle between good and evil. You're right.8:29 You're seeing that evil just try to swoop in, and and it is terrifying. And so how, like, you know, we all know kind of the issues that have happened at Washington and things like so8:41 how are we going to find like, people need to we need to talk about how they're gonna find you and where all the things that you're on. But how are we going to make sure that we have platforms that are8:53 not gonna get canceled and shut down and and aren't gonna get forced on the air and all of these?8:58 There's no easy answer, but I think streaming gives us a shot because it's sort of small d democratizing it and flattening the media power. You go back to before I was in there, before you guys were involved in media,9:10 it was 3 big networks, ABC, CBS, NBC. And then CNN flattened it a little bit. It was a little down the middle at the beginning, moved left further and further over the years. And in the Trump years, you couldn't9:20 recognize the old CNN. They're now trying to move a little bit back towards the middle Right. A little bit of sanity. I'm not saying they're perfect either. I'm not saying I'm buying that they're normal now.9:29 Trump's town hall.9:30 The Trump town hall is a great example. The best ratings they've had in years. Exactly. Why is that? Well, they actually listen to the man, and they actually listen to the people who were there. And then, of course, they9:39 got criticism from the left, so they ran.9:41 Of course.9:41 Yeah. They had to run out of there. So, where's it going? What do we do? Well, Real America's Voice is 1 of those streaming platforms where we try to be fearless about this. And, with the Internet, you know, you can9:52 stream it out there. The government still is gonna find a way eventually to block what they wanna block. We've seen it on YouTube and other platform. But I think Real America's Voice, I think Rumble, I think Frank's10:00 speech. I I respect everything that Mike Lindell has been doing. Yes. He's he's pouring his own hard earned money into this. He puts his money where his mouth is. Right? And so when you wanna talk about Frank's speech,10:11 free speech, it's 1 thing to talk about. It's another thing to actually back it up, fight, like I said, not just us, like doctor Wolf and others. She's been threatened. She's had to find ways to publish books around the10:22 normal chance. Someone like Simon and Schuster, Right. Normally, we'd give someone who's got the sensational Pfizer documents exposing corruption. Simon and Schuster would give you a 5000000 dollar book advance if you10:33 were on 60 minutes or something. Right. But if you're doctor Wolfe and you're challenging the pharmaceutical industries that fund a lot of these TV news networks, you're persona non grata. Exactly. So we gotta fight10:43 back. How do we do it? It it's not easy. There's no there's no obvious plan. You just fight every day and try to tell the truth.10:50 Right. Well, Americans are so worried about the economy right now. What are your thoughts on the debt ceiling crisis?10:58 I think a lot of it has been manufactured by the White House. The Democrats wanna say, oh, these mean Republicans wanna cut spending, and wanna delay us borrowing more money, lifting the ceiling to borrow more money. And11:10 it's that's why I think Republicans call it a manufactured crisis, and they're right. Because we're not gonna default. It's just a threat to kind of make the Republicans cower and not demand more spending cuts. And11:22 frankly, over the years, too many Republicans have cowered, whether they be rhinos or others and have not demanded spending cuts. In the Trump years as well, I'll be honest. There was a lot of spending under Trump as11:32 well. Not as bad as Biden, but I think Republicans over the years I remember covering George w Bush's White House. Prescription drug plans and other things, billions and billions of dollars of our tax money that there's11:44 no plan to actually cover. You know, how do you how do you pay for it except raise taxes raise taxes? And and we're on a prescription for disaster when you've got over 33000000000000 dollars in debt. And11:56 so I think Kevin McCarthy came to power as speaker, like kinda limping in with, whatever, 15 ballots or whatever to come speaker. And he wins by a razor's edge,12:08 and he's being led around by Matt Gaetz and others, but he's delivered on something. It's not everything. Yes.12:13 He did. They did.12:15 They did. And that worked.12:16 Good. Yes. Yeah.12:17 And the investigations that he said he would do, like with James Comer, we could talk about the Biden family corruption. They're developing a lot of information there that we should talk about. Number 2, on the debt12:26 ceiling, Biden wouldn't negotiate with him for a long time. Biden kept saying he wouldn't put spending cuts on the table. McCarthy said, I've got you'll never pass this in the house, the White House said. They12:38 gosh, narted. They brought in the house Republicans. They passed a plan to lift the debt ceiling as the Democrats in the White House won, but with spending cuts in there. Right. And what what's the reaction from the12:49 White House, the Democrats? Oh, they're a bunch of terrorists trying to hold things up. It's all name calling. Yeah. And you do that kind of name calling when you can't win on the facts. Right?12:58 It's never about calling. So they don't have it's all about against Trump, against Republicans. It's never about what they're going to do for America. And and it's and but do you think, you know, that a lot of this is13:10 deliberate? And, you know, for this this, you know, 1 word order agenda, let's just go there. Let's just talk about all of this because what is really happening with all of this? Why would they why and and I wanna13:22 know some things about why what is your thoughts on these hundreds of food processing plants that are just randomly blowing up? And no one's talking about this.13:32 Well, there's that. There's the trainer elements. And, you know, you're called the conspiracy theories if you just ask questions. I don't have all the answers, like I said earlier. But I know that my colleague Karen Turk13:41 and I have taken our morning show, American Sunrise, to East Palestine twice, not once, twice. And we left there coughing and feeling sick because of the chemicals. Yeah. We took a lot of vitamins and supplements on the13:52 way out. I feel great. I'm not gonna dramatize it. Certainly, there are people who still live there and must be getting sick because they're they're there. We were just in there for, like, 2 or 3 days of reporting each14:02 time. But my point is not to hold ourselves up, but to say, why hasn't Joe Biden gone to East Palestine? Back to doctor Wolf, she came on our show, and her husband has studied a lot of this, and14:14 has said that they believe, you know, it's possible that China or other some other dark force could be behind some of these trained realms. It's other things. It's sort of this soft approach to war where you keep dinging14:25 away and doing things that are wearing America down from within. I don't again, I don't have all the answers, but I know that we're seeing dozens and dozens of train derailments, chemical14:37 weapons, the rest of it, you know, chemicals that could be used as weapons, I guess, is a better way to say it. What's going on? What's the real truth here? So14:46 Right. Well, I I remember when you were a White House correspondent, and I just think about what would any Yeah. Do now as a White House correspondent?14:56 You know, I'm pretty upset with what's going on. I mean, I'll give you 1 quick example. We're talking about the debt ceiling. The White House press secretary Jean Pierre today was saying that, you know, Joe Biden,15:07 because it we might default, you know, they're so concerned about this. He's been negotiating for months to try to get a deal, and the Republicans won't do a deal. Well, the Republican National Committee went back, and15:17 they've got the receipts going back to February. Right? And and the daily press briefing, the same person, Jean Pierre, kept saying, we're not negotiating with these Republicans. We're just gonna lift the debt ceiling.15:28 We we're not gonna negotiate. Now they're saying, we've been negotiating for months. Yeah. They think we're stupid. They think there's not a tape that a White House correspondent could go and find and say, wait. I was15:36 sitting in this room in February, and you said just the opposite. But they wanna tell us the sky is green15:42 Right.15:42 With a straight face and just say, no. Wait. It's blue. No. No. No. It's green.15:45 It's the15:46 infrared white white white15:47 white white white white15:47 white white white white white white white white15:48 white white white white white white white white white white. The real but the real those soundbites are never gonna air Right.15:51 Mainstream media. That's the15:53 the point. And that's15:54 So you asked me. I would be calling them out more. I think Peter Doocy and others do a good job.15:58 Yes. He does.15:59 But more people need to back them up, and I felt that when I was at Fox. A lot of other networks would, in private, say you're asking good questions, but they wouldn't follow-up in public because their bosses didn't want16:09 those questions16:10 or the courage to do it. Why? The courage begets courage.16:13 Yeah. And you got a person. There are other there were some people who would rise up, you know. And and sooner or later, they get shamed in the mainstream media because you can't hide this. I mean, there have been I16:23 mean, I saw CNN after the Durham report came out doing factual reports saying, this is bad. This is a 300 page report saying the FBI lied. I mean, let me just give you that 1 thing.16:34 So we're16:34 not gonna go through 307 pages of the Durham report. But we knew it before the Durham report. Now it's been confirmed in more layers. James Comey was the FBI director, and he signed a piece of paper to the FISA court,16:45 the surveillance court, which when I covered it in the Bush administration, like, this is the most serious court. It operates in secret. If we need a warrant to spy on Al Qaeda, to listen to their phone, to see if16:57 there's gonna be a terror attack. And there was the ACLU in the left in the Bush years saying, I don't know we should be spying on terrorists. And we and Bush's point was, hang on. They're not calling their I remember17:09 him giving speeches. We're not gonna listen in, he'd say, if they're calling Uncle Al, but if that person, that American is calling Al Qaeda, I wanna be on the phone. Right? We wanna listen. It was kind of a joke that he17:20 did. Right? But he's right. Now it's been turned on its head. That same FISA court, Comey signed a piece of paper to spy on Trump's people like Carter Page and lied to that court and17:32 said, we have information suggesting that the Russians are infiltrating this campaign. We now know that was a lie. It was based on lies, the Steele dossier and all that. Yeah. Do you think if you signed a piece of paper17:43 to a FISA court, to a judge, to get a fake warrant, to spy on you think you'd be in jail or you'd be out making money on books like Comey?17:51 Oh my god.17:51 You know the answer. I know the answer. It's Why are they not held accountable?17:55 Right. Well, they slow walked it and then you you know, they the status of limitations. But Yep. You but why are some of these issues treason? Why isn't some of that you're sexually comfortable with18:07 the Hunter Biden laptop. How is that18:09 We saw crimes in the laptop. There's multiple crimes, exploitation of of children, business that are the most serious potential crimes, of course. But potentially, business deals where taxes were not18:21 paid and corruption. 1 example, James Comer comes forward. I mentioned a moment ago, Republican of Kentucky. A million dollars from a Romanian national goes to the Biden family, not18:33 Joe Biden personally per se. We'll see.18:35 The big guy.18:36 The big guy. But the big guy's getting 10 percent in the laptop. Right? So the big guy, we think Joe is getting 10 percent. Did he pay taxes on that 10 percent, by the way? That's an a question number 2. Was it more than18:46 10 percent? I mean, he looked us in the eye, Joe Biden, in 20 20, said I wasn't involved at all. 10 percent for the big guy suggests you were at least involved. Now other emails from the laptop will come out saying he18:56 was involved in meetings, and this Romanian maybe met with him, consulted with Biden when he was vice president of the United States. Not when he was a private citizen, which could be bad as well, but when he was a19:05 sitting vice president with Obama. Yeah. Do you think if Don Junior was cutting deals with the Romanian nationals for a million dollars for the Trump family, this conversation would be happening in court, not in a CNN19:16 set or at a congressional hearing. They would be prosecuting the Trump family. You know it and I know it.19:21 And, well, you know, Biden was saying he got that prosecutor fired. He did.19:26 In Ukraine.19:27 Yeah.19:27 Yeah. And so if On the record. And we He19:29 said it's on tape. Yeah.19:31 For why are we spending all this money to to, help their border?19:36 Ukraine's border. I mean, Ukraine is a whole another thing. We're talking about the debt ceiling. We've sent over a hundred and 30000000000 dollars to Ukraine. Where I get we gotta send some. They're an ally. We don't19:45 want them to just be naked and beaten, to a pulp by Russia. But on the other hand, where's this money going? Where are the controls? We have no controls about who's really benefiting. Yes.19:55 Come on. And is it just a And is19:56 it a laundering operation for the Hunter Bidens of the world and then Nancy Pelosi's? And what about Nancy Pelosi's stock transactions?20:02 Oh my goodness. Well, people20:03 are not not doing that?20:05 Seeing what is what is20:07 the thing20:07 he's doing?20:08 You elect Donald Trump, and and he's gonna have the SEC chairman on day 1 investigating Nancy. You elect Donald Trump on day 1, his attorney general. It's not gonna be Barr. It's not gonna be set. He made a lot of20:18 mistakes. Let's be honest. Yeah. Some of his personnel. Yeah. Right? Yeah. But he's gonna have to find somebody who's real and is gonna follow the facts. And, you know, I think the Biden family is gonna be quite nervous20:30 if if, Donald Trump wins and Joe Biden loses.20:33 Exactly. Well, we cannot have you on the program without asking you what do you think about the whole Tucker Carlson cancellation.20:41 I had a brief conversation with Tucker. We're friends from when I was at Fox. You know, I don't like to talk about private conversation. What I all I would say is that he he expressed great happiness with what he's doing20:53 now. That basically, as I feel, I was fired by Fox unfairly. I fought it. I've got court papers that I'll let that talk do the talking because I don't wanna talk outside of that. I'm innocent,21:04 and they were unfair to me. But21:07 But you were you were speaking truth.21:09 Right. Here's what I'd say. Number 1, on Tucker, and then I get get to my context here, because I'm not gonna sit here and bash Fox. I I don't have sour grapes. I'm happy with what I'm doing now. I don't think it's a21:21 good look for anyone to look in the rear view mirror. Exactly. And they got as a plan, look forward, and I'll get to that. But on Tucker, to answer you directly, he said he was happy. I believe him because I'm happy21:30 after being fired by Fox. I think there's gonna be a lot more people. I keep hearing rumors of others who are about to be cut. They fired some of their investigative unit. There might be other anchors going out.21:40 Well, it's21:40 now a badge of honor.21:41 Yeah. Well, I think that they got away from who their audience really is. Exactly. And they were kinda lying to their audience on election night about Arizona and other things because they wanted to get Trump out of21:51 there. And I've said that on Steve Bannon's War Room, and I'll repeat it. They don't like it, but that's the truth. And then once their ratings started coming down after the election, and Newsmax was rising, and and Real22:02 America's Voice and others, then they started pushing election fraud, which got them in trouble with Dominion. Rightly or wrong, I'm not taking Dominion's side or Fox's, you can you can battle it out out in court. But22:13 the fact is, after, looking the other way on election fraud on election night and immediately after, Fox all of a sudden went in all in with Maria Bartiromo and others that triggered the suit on fraud because their22:24 audience wanted to hear it. When the text messages in discovery underneath it, Sean Hannity and others were downplaying fraud saying, this is this is BS. We gotta get Trump to go away quietly. Let's land22:36 the plane. Hannity said all these things. But on the air, hey, massive election fraud. Let's have Rudy on. So they're telling the audience 1 thing and saying something in private. All of us have have made mistakes like22:47 that, where we're preaching 1 thing, and in private, we're doing something else. And and and we fall down, and the bible makes it clear that you're on the wrong path. And I think they were lying to their audience, and22:58 they paid a price. And rather than proving their innocence, they settled with Dominion to the tune of 787000000. And I think, Tucker, I don't know all the facts. I'm not gonna speculate. There have been there's23:10 been sharp reporting suggesting that whether it was directly tied to the Dominion settlement or if there was a wink and a nod, that as part of that settlement, Tucker had to go. They had to make some heads roll. And I23:21 think Tucker will be bigger and better outside of Fox. And I hear that from people here who are coming up to me, at the religious broadcasters convention saying, I watch your show now in Real America's Voice, and God is23:32 using you to speak truth. Maybe truth you couldn't say at Fox. And so, I had a post on Instagram yesterday where I said that, you know, when you're fired from somewhere, whether it's Fox or somewhere else, at first, you23:43 think your career is done. I messed up. Or I'm never gonna work again. I'm never gonna have a platform like this again. And what I said was, God has a plan that's not always obvious at first. And and23:55 I had someone who works at Fox come up to me at this convention who said, quote, you got out just in time.24:02 Now I did.Show more In this video 0:22 The Battle of Truth in Media28:30
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