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Trump's Global Ambitions and the Peace President Vision 0:02 We wanna honor God because He sees everything.0:10 You were born with a plan and a purpose. He's the God of all things possible. He's the God of all0:22 miracles.0:52 Welcome to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. Michelle Humphreys.0:55 And I am Naina Keegan. You are gonna be so glad you are turning tuning in to this today because we have the most amazing guest. We love this guy. Michelle, you wanna do the honors?1:05 He's 1 of the funniest political analysts on the planet. He really is. He has for over 20 years been with the Christian Broadcasting Network as the1:17 chief political analyst, and he really knows his stuff. He actually wrote the book Donald j Trump, his spiritual journey,1:29 and he is you can see him on the daily on Real America's Voice with American Sunrise. And so will you please welcome David Brody?1:40 Alright. Welcome.1:43 What an intro. My goodness. I will zell you both later, by1:46 the way.1:46 Well, you didn't even mention Lisette and the kids, and you you've got such a full life.1:53 Well, it's great. I I'm blessed for sure and 3 granddaughters now, so that's exciting.1:59 It's amazing. David, we just we're just gonna jump right in here. First of all, what is going on? Like, everywhere right now, we have Minnesota. We have, you know, we have or we're gonna go get Greenland. What's2:11 happening with Venezuela? We have the Gaza Riviera that Trump's planning. Like, what is happening?2:17 To be USA the Empire? Yes. What's2:20 happening? What what what is in your mind about all this?2:23 Okay. First of all, you're right. I didn't have Greenland and Venezuela on my bingo card for sure. I don't think any but any of us did. Look. Here here's what I think. I mean, we could talk about Minneapolis in a2:35 moment, but but overall, I I think what's going on here and I'm gonna be a bit critical of president here. Look. I I I think he's fallen in love with being the peace president. I I think that's what's going on2:47 here. And let me be kind of, more specific about it. He he's been asked a couple of times, what do you want your legacy to be? And he goes, I wanna be known as the peace president. Well, here here we2:59 are. I mean, I I I think that if you look at through it through that lens, whether it be, you know, helping the people in Venezuela, potentially helping the people in Iran with potential strikes that could3:10 come any moment, and then, of course, you know, you've got Greenland, which is not so much about the people, but it is about the national security. You know, everything and then, of course, he always talks about how he3:22 solved 8 and a quarter wars. I love how he puts the quarter in3:25 there. Yeah.3:26 Yeah. So, like, who's calculating that? Is that 8.27? Is he rounding up? Is he rounding down? I never quite understood the math. So, you know, he always talks about that. And so if you think about it, I think that's3:38 where his mind is at knowing this president or knowing this person, Donald j Trump, for about oh my goodness. It's been now 17 years or so. And so for example, with Iran, I mean, I3:50 could see him deciding to strike Iran and because let's be honest, he will put that on the 8.25 scorecard and say, I've now liberated the people of Iran.4:01 He he really sees it in those terms. Now he's gonna say all of this is MAGA, and quite frankly, you can make the argument that all of it is MAGA. I mean, Iran has killed 600 or so Americans since 19 79.4:13 Once again, to be clear, this is not the Ayatollah saying go and kill Americans. What it's it's the Ayatollah saying, hey, Hezbollah. Hey, Hamas. Here's some money to go kill Americans. And there's many other proxies as4:25 well, the Houthis and onward. So if you put it all together since 19 79, Iran has killed 600 or so Americans. So Iran has blood on American blood on their hands, not to mention in it's a national4:36 security interest as it relates to, oh, this just in, we're the great Satan, if we haven't heard that before, and the oil, that Iran is is working in places like Venezuela and others,4:48 and cybersecurity threats. So Iran is a threat, and so you can make the MAGA argument there. You can make the MAGA argument with Venezuela as well as it relates to the oil and it relates to Russia and5:00 China not getting, this oil and them being a bad boy, if you will, in our backyard. Though I have to tell you, you know, president Trump went around and said make America great again. He5:12 didn't go around saying make the western hemisphere great again. And I and I I think a lot of folks in MAGA are kind of scratching their heads a little bit, but I think they're giving him the benefit of the doubt.5:21 Because let's be honest, Michelle and I, if this was Biden, we would be like, oh my gosh. What is he doing? He's gonna get us down into a quagmire. If this was a neocon president, we5:33 would be like, oh my gosh. All they wanna do is nation build. But when it comes to Trump, I feel like MAGA gives them a little bit more of a pass because Trump is an in and out guy. He's like, hey. Let's just get5:45 in and then get out. Look what we did with Iran, right, in July with the nuclear strikes, and you can just go al Baghdadi and, Soleimani. I mean, he just he's he drone strikes in and gets out. So5:57 and he's had a record of success. So I think MAGA gives him the benefit of the doubt. Now having said that, it's kind of a it's kind of a loose, you know, benefit of the doubt. Like, I I feel like MAGA6:08 sometimes gives him too much credit. Once again, to be clear, what he's done is great in terms of his track record. But if this was anybody else, if this was Biden or a neocon6:20 president, you know MAGA would be up in arms about this. I mean, just this week, he keyed Trump called himself the acting Venezuelan president. What? Yeah. So, you know, listen listen. I mean, I've got6:32 some issues with it as you can tell. Having said that, I can also see why he calls it the MAGA, why he calls it MAGA, and why it's the Donroe doctrine. I know I keep going on and on, and we can talk about the Donroe6:42 doctrine, if you will, instead of the Monroe doctrine. But then again, I I get paid by the word, so I should probably continue. But I'll stop. I'll stop.6:51 Well, you6:51 know, when you think about all of that, like, I do know that even, you know, in our own circles that people are saying, well, you know, he needs to focus on America and Right. Getting things done here. And and I I think7:03 sometimes I look around at some of the things that he starts or we go after certain things and then nothing happens. Nothing happens. Like, it goes so far, like, you know, he did have Comey. He did have, you know, some7:14 of these things going on. And then there's, like, always some judge that, you know, throws the stop and throws the wrench into it. And, you know, I feel like that's been kinda hard. There's people who are going, where's7:26 Pam Bondi? Where's our FBI? What do you think on some of these things? Like, what do you think is, like, holding up so many things that people in this United States are mad about?7:36 Well, he has some Republicans, some rhinos that he's fighting against. He's fighting the Democrats, and he's fighting the deep state, and that will never change. I think he thinks it's easier to do things internationally7:44 than it is domestically, quite frankly. You know, having said all of that, the Epstein thing was such a debacle. I mean, that was such an unforced error. I mean, how can you be you7:56 know, Trump, for the longest time, was saying, let's go, and open up all these Epstein files. And then when they finally start to do it, he says, no. It's a big hoax. It's not a hoax. I mean, there's so many things going8:08 on, there. Pam Bondi, I I you know, I think her days are numbered. I think it's just a matter of time before she's gone. And let's be honest, MAGA wants to see a not just a purp walk, they wanna see someone in jail. I'm8:19 sorry. And and it's not happening. And so that's been a disappointment. But, look, I think domestically, you can make the argument easily. Well, not only make the argument. It is irrefutable that the border8:31 has been cleaned up big time. Mhmm. With all that. Yeah. And that's his biggest accomplishment domestically so far. Maybe economically, we'll see how quarter 1 and quarter 2 does here, but but that's kinda where it is. I8:43 I do believe, Michelle and I, I do believe that you can walk and chew gum at the same time. You you can go ahead and do what you need to do internationally and also get done certain things domestically, and they're gonna8:54 have to do a better job of it, though. They will. Exactly.8:56 And we're about to go to a break, David. Yeah. When we come back, I'd like to talk about the midterms.Midterm Challenges: Economy, Culture, and Secular Shifts 9:02 Yeah. We'll9:02 be right back. Yep.9:04 I'm excited to announce that we're having our biggest 3 in 1 sale ever with a limited edition product, a back in stock special, and a closeout deal you won't find anywhere else. So go to my pillow dot com9:16 or call that number on your screen. Use your promo code to get our My Pillow bed sheets, only 29 88. Any color, any style, any size, even Kings, regular 1 199:27 98, only 29 88. Once they're gone, they're gone for good. How about our my towels? They're finally back in stock, but not for long. Get a 6 piece my towel set, regular9:39 69 98, now only 39 98. And for the first time and the only time ever, get our limited edition premium my pillows. They're made with giza cotton and designer gusset.9:51 Queen, 17 98. King's only 19 98. So So go to my pillow dot com or call the number on your screen. Use your promo code to get the best offers ever. Quantities are extremely limited, so10:03 order now.10:04 Welcome back to Grace Grace. We have David Brody with us, the man that just is the best political analyst. And let me just say, David, I wanna know your10:16 opinion on the midterms. We just are coming up on a year of having the house, the senate, the White House.10:25 Do you10:26 think we're gonna win the midterms?10:28 Such Dicey.10:29 Such narrow margins already that we have. We can't afford to lose any. What are your thoughts?10:33 No. It's gonna be dicey. I I'm not a big well, this just in. I'm a Christian, so I'm not gonna get my crystal ball10:40 out, obviously. But if I had10:43 a Christian crystal ball, if you will, I would say that, it's not looking great. It's just not looking great. And there's a lot of reasons why. But but let's just start with the10:54 economy. Ultimately, well, there's there's so much to unpack. First of all, Trump's not on the ballot. Even though Susie Wiles, the chief of staff for the White House, says that he is going to be on the11:06 ballot because what they're gonna argue the White House is gonna say, look. Trump is on the ballot because if Democrats get in control, they're gonna impeach Trump for yet a third11:14 That's a fact. Time. Yeah.11:15 And it's and it's a fact and it's true. And so maybe that makes a difference in terms of turnout. Then again, let's be honest. The truth of the matter is Trump is technically not on the ballot. And so, therefore,11:27 it's gonna be tough to get those numbers out, and the Republicans have done no favors, to themselves here whatsoever, whether it be Epstein or some other things going on. But look, I I I think, ultimately,11:39 what's gonna happen with the big beautiful bill? Will we get results on the economy in q 1 and q 2? You know, q 2, quarter 2 ends in June on June thirtieth. So that'll be put us right around July11:51 first. Let's see what those economic numbers are. And then at that point, if the economy starts to turn, then there could be indeed some good news electorally, in the midterms. But having said that, affordability12:03 is a very tough nut to crack. And, you know, I I know that's a buzzword that Democrats have put out their but the truth of the matter is if you look at the polls, and I'm kind of a geek when it comes to the polls and I12:13 look at the methodology, it is true that Americans are feeling the pinch still even though gas prices are lower, so much lower than they used to be, and, you know, interest rates are lower.12:25 And so there there are some good signs in the economy. Stock market continues to do well, and the tariffs are bringing in tons of money. But you can't present a PDF document to the public. You just can't do it. So, you12:37 know, you can argue all you want. The White House can say, look. We inherited a bad economy. Now it's getting better, and look at the numbers, and get and trot out Kevin Hassett and other people and, you12:48 know, Scott Bessett and everything. But you know what? With no due all due respect to Scott Bessett and and, Kevin Hassard. But they're come on. Now they're13:00 they're nerdy guys with a calculator in their pocket, and and and people are not going, hey. Have you heard what Scott Bess has said tonight? Everything's gonna be okay, honey. Don't worry about it. No. That's not how it13:10 works. Right? And so they've gotta figure out a way to, connect, some of what's positive, what's going on positive to people's pain. It's kinda like Bill Clinton going, I feel13:22 your pain. Yeah. Right? Right? He done that? Of course, he also lied to our faces.13:28 Remember that. Yeah.13:29 But he said, I feel your pain. And Trump's not good at I feel your pain. He's he just doesn't do the empathy thing, so he's gonna have to he can't go around and say, look. This is the best economy13:41 ever since, like, ever. You know? He he just can't do it because people are gonna go, well, yeah. I don't know if I believe that. And and quite frankly, 1 last thing on the economy is that president Trump, his13:53 bread and butter. Right? He's the business guy. He's the art of the deal. He's the billionaire guy. He's the guy that makes money, knows how to make money, and and all of that. If the economy is kinda squishy, that's not14:04 good for his brand, and it's not good for Republicans in the midterm.14:07 So what do you think, midterms also you know, we just saw, you know, New York. My goodness gracious, Mondam. Like, what in the world? And so we're seeing this kind of rise up. And, you know, I14:19 saw in Gwinnett, Georgia, just a young guy, 21 years old or whatever, same. Muslim, just want like, but who's backing these people? How are they getting in? You know, what do you think about14:31 all of that? Look at look what's happening in Minnesota. I know we were, you you know, thinking about that. Like, so so why the big rise on all of that? And then why does it seem that people, you know, just14:43 seem to be okay with this? Like, you know, how did he and especially with the Jewish population in New York. He literally said he's coming after, you know you know, he's gonna tax you more, all these things. So14:55 so why do you think he he got in?14:59 So a couple of things. First of all, I think just overall, writ large, we're getting away we're way far away from our Judeo Christian principles in this country. And when you do that, you have rise to other factions, if15:09 you will, and other faiths, especially the Muslim faith. And, you know, there's there's an opportunity there, and I think we're seeing that. As for Maamdani, you know, it's not the big apple. It's the rotten apple, at15:20 this point. I'm from New York. I'm from the Upper West Side, the mean streets of the latte sipping Upper West Side where, you know, we congregated Zabars with a coffee to say, don't mess with us. You know? Hey.15:32 Can I get 2, 2 creams with that? But, so so look. I'm from New York, and so it pains me to to to see what has gone on in New York. But let's be honest,15:44 I hate to say it like this, but, sowing and reaping. Right? They deserve it. They deserve. Whatever comes from Ma'am Donny, all New Yorkers deserve it. Whoever voted for Ma'am Donny, that is. And that gets me into that15:54 last part of the question, which is the Jewish vote. Look. As you guys know, I grew up Jewish. Mhmm. Gave my life to Christ in 19 88. I literally was a New York Jew. I was 1 of the reformed Jews that if I didn't see the16:06 light, who knows? I might have voted for mom Donnie if you know? I mean, I was 1 of those guys. I was sucked into the liberal culture. So the answer to your question, Naina, is pretty simple even though it sounds16:17 complicated, which is that the Jews are not voting against Mandani because he's espoused anti Semitic behavior and language. They're voting for Madami16:29 actually because their religion is not Judaism, it's secularism.16:33 Mhmm.16:33 And that's the key. You know, when when you're off biblically, when you when you're not walking with the Lord and when you're totally, coming at it from a secular standpoint, you're gonna buy the16:45 social socialism. You're gonna buy the communism. You're gonna buy whatever Mamdani is selling. You're gonna buy it hook, line, and sinker. And Jews in New York, most of them, not all of them, but there's obviously a16:57 big Hasidic population, there's a big Orthodox population, and some conservative Jews. But by and large, 70, 75 percent of Jews in New York are reformed Jews. I was 1 of those reformed Jews. In other words, those are17:08 liberal Jews. Right. And liberal Jews do not take the Bible as an inerrant word of God. They don't even follow the Bible, quite frankly. They follow the the, the what's now I'm17:20 blanking out. The, not the Haftarah. The, oh my goodness. I can't even think of the name of it. I'll I'll get it in a second. Oh, the Talmud. Thank you. Hello. The Talmud, and some of the rabbinical laws, that17:31 the rabbis put forward. So they're not even going off of the Bible. And so if you don't go off the Bible, your view is secularism is not anywhere near Judaism.17:40 Well, and how we started17:42 By the way, real quick, I just wanna say 1 last thing. I'm sorry real quick. Is that with the Orthodox Jews, if you notice, the Orthodox Jews, they love the evangelicals. They they follow more of that Old Testament,17:53 in our word of God, and, they're a much more conservative. Okay.17:57 Sorry about that. Exactly. And how we started, we have the house, the White House, and the senate. If that was the answer if politics were the answer, we would be okay18:09 now. Right. But we you know, it's not. We know God is and a great awakening is, and we're gonna come right back.18:15 I'm excited to announce that we're having our biggest 3 in 1 sale ever with a limited edition product, a back in stock special, and a closeout deal you won't find anywhere else. So go to my pillow dot com18:27 or call that number on your screen. Use your promo code to get our My Pillow bed sheets, only 29 88. Any color, any style, any size, even Kings, regular, 1 1918:39 98, only 29 88. Once they're gone, they're gone for good. How about our my towels? They're finally back in stock, but not for long. Get a 6 piece my towel set, regular18:50 69 98. Now only 39 98. And for the first time and the only time ever, get our limited edition premium my pillows. They're made with giza cotton and designer gusset.19:02 Queen, 17 98. King's only 19 98. So go to my pillow dot com or call the number on your screen. Use your promo code to get the best offers ever. Quine's are extremely limited, so19:14 order now.Trump's Faith Journey, Justice, and MAGA's Future 19:16 Welcome back to Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle and David Brody. We are so glad he is on with us. And, David, I have a question I've been dying to ask you. You know, writing the book, the faith of19:28 Donald Trump and all of that stuff. You know, you've sat down with him. You know yeah. Okay. Is he saved, for 1? And then also because we hear him on Air Force 1 telling telling the19:40 news, the media up there, I don't know if I'll make it to heaven or not. Do you remember those comments? It's like, I don't know.19:46 Remember that. So That's for your19:48 next book. That's what that's your next book. Exactly. So we wanna know what you think of those comments because, I mean, we hear you know, I know, Franklin Graham, Jenson Franklin, they have come out and said he's19:59 absolutely saved. You know? So, you know, we of course, he needs discernment and, you know, he needs he needs to get with the holy spirit. But what do you think about all that?20:09 Well, a couple things. Let me I got God on the line. Hang on 1 second. I'll just what do you think? Ultimately, obviously, he'll know way better than you,20:21 me, both of you and me and and everybody out there. So he'll make that final determination. Having said that, I'm concerned.20:28 Yeah.20:28 I'm concerned. I mean, let let let's not sugarcoat it, shall we? When he said that on air force 1, and he said that a couple other times too. Mhmm. Then then you don't understand the20:40 actual saving grace of the gospel. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, that that that that is not a tenet. It is the tenet, if you will. Yeah. I mean, you know, we're not saved by works. We're saved by grace.20:49 Mhmm.20:50 And and so so, therefore, when he said that, it concerned me. Now in my reporting for the book at the time, people like Paula White, Mike Pence at the time, many21:02 others. Maybe I shouldn't mention Mike Pence at this point. I'm sorry. Hashtag too soon. My bad. But, you know, there's a there were a lot of folks. You mentioned Franklin Graham21:14 and others that were telling me straight to to my face, absolutely, he is saved, that he was being been presented the gospel presentation, that he's given his life to Christ, that he my21:25 understanding is that he had said the sinner's prayer. Now once again, I'm hearing it secondhand. Right? I don't I don't have firsthand knowledge of that. They they they say that that he has accepted Christ as his lord21:37 and savior. But it doesn't square to me as to if you're if you're if you believe that, then why are you still believing that works gotta get you into heaven? The only thing I can think of and the only way to21:49 square the circle, if you will, and once again, I think this is a stretch, but, you know, president Trump, this just in, is not in theology class. I mean, he's not, right, he's not gonna be a guy that's going to be,22:01 you know, you know, he he's all about work. Right. Right? He's all about work. So so that's his lens. And so even though he can understand it in the moment and give his life to Christ and say, yes. It's just by his22:13 by by by grace only and not by works. Like, he can get that, like, in the moment, but, like, he still kinda defaults back to, well, I gotta do good stuff. And don't get me wrong. Right? I mean, we all wanna do22:25 good stuff, and we we want we we think that that will yeah. It it but he's gonna get us a few more barrels of hay and some horses, for sure in heaven, but it's not gonna get us into heaven. And so22:37 maybe it's a theology mix up. That's my best case scenario of it, but I listen, ladies. I'm concerned. Of course.22:43 I am concerned with you. Yeah. 1 thing that I am still just I I keep going back to is if we don't get just shifting topics. If we don't get some justice, if we don't see some22:55 people go to jail, I don't know that we can recover in the midterms. I think if people would start going to jail for what they've done over these last years, you know, even in the23:07 Epstein files, you know, with and also with Pam Bondi.23:11 And the election fraud.23:12 Pam Bondi needs to put some people in jail, and I think that that would turn the tide, for votes. Do you?23:20 What are you thinking? Possibly. Yeah. I mean, it could. I mean, I think it would get, more of MAGA mobilized and energized. So, yes, I I think in that case, for sure. But I don't think it's gonna happen. I23:32 really don't. No. And here's why. It Oh, go ahead. What were you gonna23:35 say?23:35 There needs23:35 to be a precedent so so that, you know Sure. They know, okay. Well, we might have to think twice about some of our actions because you know but they just blindly do whatever they want, it seems, and23:47 there's no consequence. And so this is the issue that voters have.23:52 And I feel like people are so tired of the bad news and all of the injustice that I don't know how will how the pendulum will swing for the midterms as a result.24:03 That's true. And the problem is is that, once again, back to fighting the deep state. It's not just that my concern is that people won't go to jail for a couple reasons. It's not just Democrats, but these24:14 investigations by Republicans, like, for example, the Biden auto pen stuff, where is that? Exactly. What what happened to that? I mean, why why is that not tier a? Well, the answer is pretty24:26 and I'm not don't get me wrong. I'm not saying anything bad about James Comer who's investigating it, but there's certain Republicans that are Tim Burchard's great. There's a lot of people that are great, but there's so24:36 many that just don't, oh, let me try to say this nicely. Give a hoot. They don't give a hoot. Right? It's not a tier a issue to to them, and so they don't spend their political capital on it.24:48 And there's many Republicans that just want it to go away. That's same thing with January sixth. January sixth. I mean, we hear a lot. Don't get me wrong. There's, like, a handful of Republicans that are pushing January24:59 sixth to say, hey. We need another investigation. We gotta get Liz Cheney. We gotta get there are some people like that, for sure. But most Republicans want it to go away.25:06 And people are tired of being outraged without results. And so they're sort of withdrawing, I think.25:12 That's right. The the a lot of the the church stays home. Evangelicals stay home on voting. And, you know, it's it's a shame because when you do really see the numbers, you know, how how many people actually do stay25:24 home. A lot of people think it's not gonna matter because they're gonna cheat anyway and all of that. So25:28 Exactly.25:29 You know, it's just, but I do think there needs to be a precedence set25:33 on all that. Well, David Brody, tell us we we've got a minute and 20 seconds. Tell us how our audience can find you.25:40 Well, they can go to d brody reports at d brody reports, on x and on Instagram. Those are the places that I'm pretty much, pretty active. And just to conclude with 125:52 big storyline that I think everybody will need to obviously look forward to not forward to, but really look at, not just in 20 26, but into 20 28, the future of MAGA. What is it exactly?26:05 We haven't even talked about Tucker Carlson. We haven't talked about Candace Owens. Don't get me started on Tucker Carlson. And definitely don't get me started on Candace Owens because then I get out the Alka Seltzer and26:15 the Tylenol. Yeah. But26:18 He's he's lost his way.26:20 He's lost his way.26:21 He's he's unbelievable.26:22 And and calling Christian Zionists, having a brain virus. I mean, I know we don't have time for all that, but the point is, like, that is a MAGA wing that wants to control the direction of MAGA. Which way is MAGA26:34 gonna go exactly philosophically and politically and policy wise? Something to look at. And JD Vance and Marco Rubio, I think is gonna be a proxy fight. I know they like each other, but I think Rubio is gonna run for26:46 president. I think, JD Vance is gonna run for president. And my prediction, I know we gotta go. My prediction, I think Trump is gonna endorse Rubio.26:54 I agree. I agree. So Well, thank you. Thank you. We have enjoyed it so much. The time goes too fast. We love you, man. And Love you. 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