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A Troubled Past and Path to Darkness 0:02 We wanna honor God because He sees everything.0:10 You were born with a plan and a purpose. He's the God of all things possible. He's the God of all0:22 miracles.0:52 Welcome to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. I'm Michelle Humphreys.0:55 And I am Naina Keegan. Welcome to our broadcast today. Today, we have a very special guest. He just happens to be Michelle's brother, and I'm gonna let her introduce him. He is amazing. We love this1:07 guy.1:08 And he is amazing, and he has 1 of the best testimonies that I personally have ever witnessed. And, you know, the Bible says that whenever you1:20 become a Christian, behold, all things become new, and I have seen that with my brother. And we just wanted to share he's been on the show before, but we wanna share with you1:32 his very radical testimony going from walking down the wrong path to radically being saved by Jesus. And so1:44 he is he comes from Austin, Texas. We grew up in Southwest Louisiana, and this is my 1 and only sibling, Craig Dunman.1:56 And we love you, Craig. And I'm telling you, you know, in all the years, almost 12 now, we're finishing our eleventh season. And we've had many, many, many guests and heard lots and lots of testimonies, but nothing like2:07 this 1. And, it's been a long time. I think you were on the first season. So, this needs to be heard again and told again because it is powerful and 1 of my favorites. So,2:18 Craig. Where do we start?2:21 Well, you were saying I was walking down the wrong path. I was running.2:26 I was2:26 running the wrong way, and and I'm so thankful that for the mercy of God because I am almost 100 percent sure that I would not be here2:38 today if if I would not have given my life to God, to Jesus. What I experienced was very, very scary. You know? I I don't I haven't2:50 heard exact you know, testimony that's exactly like mine or even really kinda even close. But my experience was I had I was doing drugs. I did3:02 and I was addicted to things. And you3:04 at the time.3:04 I was, like, 18. Okay. 19.3:07 And you were3:08 just there?3:09 We we had a very, difficult childhood. Mhmm. It was, not for the faint of heart Right. To say the least. Yeah. I was I was3:21 thinking, about this last week, about how we had all these people coming in and out of our house. Our our father was, benevolent, and we had people in our house, like,3:32 with strange names like Gordy and Buster, and 1 guy we just called Hitchhiker Or Yang. And he brought he brought his dog, cannabis.3:40 That's right.3:41 Like, we had a crazy childhood. And Craig our our father died when Craig was 15, and he got very, very angry. And and he was3:53 running, like he said, down this path. So3:56 Yeah. And I didn't I didn't recognize that in myself because I was too immature to understand. But whenever we're younger, you know, we have this resilience. And, like, Jesus talks4:07 about the children, you know, and beholding the the face of the angels and and all that. There's a resilience that's in us, and God gave me, a lot of leeway, you know, because I4:19 had I mean, I had I was a happy kid, really, believe it or not, and there was a resilience to a lot of that. But after my dad died, it seemed like, I was running so4:31 hard against the you know, kicking against the goads or whatever. I didn't even I didn't really believe in God. I mean, I I, I had the thought in my mind the seeds were4:43 there, but I didn't really believe in God at that time. And,4:47 He wasn't Lord. Because I know Michelle was saved at 7.4:50 Yeah.4:51 And and, you know, you can you can4:52 know of God. Sweet.4:54 Yeah. Yeah. But is he Lord? He's not your Lord yet. You're4:57 just No.4:58 But we didn't really know. Like, I got saved at 7, but I didn't know anything about God. Mhmm. Like, we moved away from the people that led me to the Lord, so I didn't know how to get that to Craig. Or Right.5:10 We just You're trying,5:11 but, for sure. She she used to drive me crazy. But but, I mean, but it was beautiful now looking back. I mean, you were relentless. And, and but it was so sweet.5:23 And and 1 thing about Michelle, I know everybody doesn't have her know her background, but she's always been a sweetheart. And she always loved her brother, and she's always trying to get5:34 me saved before I was before I was ready. You know? So it was a little irritating, but, you know, back looking back, it5:42 was beautiful.5:43 Same Michelle.5:44 Right? She's still doing it, and and that's why I'm so proud of her. But we we go back to, the resilience that God had given me. I was I was a happy5:56 kid for the most part.5:57 Yes.5:58 But whenever my after my dad died, there was something, like, set in. There were seeds that were planted when I was younger, but they didn't really take any root because they I was resilient. You know? God's spirit was6:09 with me, just the the the innocence of a kid or whatever you wanna call it. But after my dad died, there was a that seeds kinda hit, and I started feeling really6:21 angry, and and I had a bitterness in me. I didn't really even know what was going on, but it took me down the wrong path. I started doing drugs and and drinking and,6:33 you know, all the things that the world tells you, you know, it was fun.6:37 Try to numb yourself and6:38 what was going on. Right.6:40 And I thought I was having fun, but, 1 day I woke up. I was in the middle of, doing doing some lots of drugs, you know, mixing them and all6:51 things like that. And all of a sudden, I realized I just, like I felt something just change in me. I don't know if it was it was gradual over, like, an hour or something or7:03 whatever, but but through my, through my running the wrong direction, I was numb. I had this emptiness in me that I thought was kinda cool. You know? I I felt7:15 strong or, like, I didn't my heart wasn't so tender anymore. Man, I liked that though at the time, but whenever7:27 God revealed to me in this moment his truth, it was like his truth came. It's like in Romans where it talks about the commandment and the, sin revived,7:39 and then I died. So I was apart from the law or for from God's truth, I was alive. But in this moment, God revealed to me truth, and it it killed me. It7:50 really my spirit just went it just died. And all of a sudden, I I was like a I was like a zombie, really. I was like a walking I was alive physically, but spiritually, I felt8:02 death. And it was it was terrifying.8:04 Like a near death experience. Like8:06 Yeah. I actually thought I died, really.8:10 Can you, just hold that thought 1 minute? We are gonna take a quick break, and we're coming right back. You are watching Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle and our exciting guest, Craig Dunman. Stay right there. You'reThe Terrifying Vision of Hell 8:21 not gonna wanna miss this.8:22 Hello, everyone. I'm excited to announce the next generation of energy drinks, Rev 7. It has no sugar and no caffeine. Instead, Rev 7 uses go b h8:34 b. Go b h b is 1 of the body's primary ketones, and it provides the most efficient and clean fuel that your body needs. It also helps you stay energized all day with no8:46 crashes. Not only that, it produces 3 times more brain energy than sugar, which helps boost your memory, focus, and mental sharpness. It also helps reduce stress and helps balance your8:57 mood. Rev 7 does all that while being the best tasting energy drink ever. So go to my pillow dot com or call the number on your screen. Use your promo code to save 20 percent today.9:09 I'm so sure you're gonna love Rev 7. For a limited time, you get our introductory 3 pack absolutely free. I drink Rev 7 every day, and I absolutely love it, and so will you.9:23 Welcome back to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. We're here with my brother, Craig Dunman, and he is gonna talk about his what he felt like was a near death experience9:36 and a time when you actually felt like you were going to go to hell. Tell us about that.9:43 Like, you had visions of that and, like, what happened to you in that?9:47 Yes. In that moment, whenever I whenever my spirit of what I felt like I was dead already, I was, you know, looking in the mirror, I felt like I'd reversed switched places with the dead image in the mirror.9:59 It was there was a lot of things going on. I saw, my mother at my funeral, You know? All all kinds of things that, anything that would signify an end was running10:11 through my head, like like a train going real fast and then stopping. A record going fast, making noise, and then you know, so there was a lot of weird stuff like that that happened, but,10:23 I could feel the enemy or Satan tell him in my mind, in my spirit, there was no voices or anything like that that I was his. And and he made a very convincing10:34 argument. It was perfect. His prosecution of me was dead on. And, I had10:42 What did he say, for instance?10:44 It was just there was no speaking. It was images, and basically my when God's light hit hit my heart, it it shined all the way back into my past10:56 and lit up everything that I'd never seen before that was evil, but it lit up that evil became evil, you know, and so I saw everything in the light, and11:08 and all of those things the enemy convicted me of. It was just all, like, so fast. I couldn't there was no words, though.11:17 So did you feel like it was like your life was flashing before your eyes or just that you were11:22 Did you hear about that? Accused11:24 When people are about to die. By the liar Mhmm. Or the evil 1.11:28 Yeah. And I I could actually hear there was so much stuff going on. It sounds bizarre. I could hear people in hell, and, like, it's like God pulled took me11:40 over. I don't know if it actually happened or if it was in my mind, but in my spirit, this was all real. I could feel the heat from hell, and I could hear all of the, like, multitudes11:51 of of groaning, and it was just so11:56 But did you know anything about hell?11:59 No. I knew I knew at this point that it was real, and I didn't wanna go. There was nothing in my whole life that was ever as real as this moment, really. It was so vivid and12:11 so, surreal, that it it leaves no doubt in my mind that God gave me a vision of where where I I should have been going if it wasn't12:23 for him.12:24 So you think at this point, and you're terrified, that you're about to join these groaning people?12:32 You can feel the heat. Like, you know, if you think about the people who have near death experiences are almost dead, or it's like the last thing the people who have gone to heaven even, and they see everything, and12:42 they, you know like, so you were experiencing this, the heat, the what the the the noises, the sounds of hell. And so were you thinking that you were dead at this point? Like, is that what you12:54 thought?12:55 I didn't I didn't feel like I would be able to come back from this. No. I definitely felt like I mean, I didn't know whether I was gonna stop I don't whether I was gonna stop breathing and I was gonna be13:07 dead or I really kind of I felt like I was already dead. I thought that this was like a I was like a image or a not a ghost, but Yeah. I13:18 didn't feel alive at all.13:20 Was anyone there with you?13:22 Just me. And so I'm like I started, you know, calling out to God because, you know, I promise you, everybody that's atheist or thinks that you don't need God,13:34 1 day you're gonna realize that God is real, and you sure surely don't wanna go to hell. I've had a a small taste, and it's the most it's the13:46 scariest thing that I've ever experienced. And I like to consider myself, you know, a tough guy, but, you we can't be tough in in the face of this. I promise you. And13:58 everybody everybody that faces what I faced, and they will, will will become religious real quick. But let's we don't wanna you don't wanna risk that. We don't I don't know how that works. I don't14:09 wanna play you don't wanna play around with God, you know, because something can happen instantly14:15 Yes.14:15 And you might not get a second chance. You know? We we wanna definitely give our lives and our hearts to Jesus as quickly as possible.14:24 Because everyone's gonna give an account. Everyone. Right. Everyone is going to give an account.14:29 And so you're going through this whole experience. What turned it around for you? Like, what happened next?14:38 I was I I grabbed the Bible, and I was trying to read the Bible, and I couldn't even read. It looked like hieroglyphics or something. It just looked like images on on a page. So,14:50 I turned on the, on the, TV, and there was this, like, Superbook something on. I don't even know what it was, but the timing was perfect. Yeah.15:00 Yeah. And15:00 I mean, it was this was very, very pitiful. This I'm not proud of the state that I was in, but so I'm sitting there in front of this TV, and I'm, like, crying15:12 and and calling out on the name of Jesus because my grandmother and you and every you know, all the people that love me, I always say if you wanna hear from God, listen to people that love you.15:23 That's a fact.15:25 That those seeds were there, and I started calling on the name of Jesus. And, as I was sitting there watching that cartoon, crying out to Jesus and to God,15:37 I felt like a warm oil, like, oil from the top of my head, and it just it came right back down, and life came back into me just like that. I felt it go all the way down to15:49 my toes. It was my that lamp that I that we take for granted life, you know, like John talks about. He was the light of men. I didn't know that until that until that16:01 candle went out. That was just, I mean, beyond terrifying. But whenever that came back, that his life came back into me.16:11 So when you were calling out for God and you were, like, kind of hovering over, like, the pit or hell, feeling the heat, hearing or, you know, hearing the moans. So when you called out to did you feel, like, a16:23 lifting out of that? Like, were you, like, pulled up and out, or was there anything like that?16:29 In my mind, the, I was rotating. I was out, like, in oblivion spiritually. Like, I was dead right there in that moment, but in my mind, I was out in16:40 oblivion, like, in space, like, slowly turning, like, with no gravity.16:46 Bible talks about outer darkness.16:48 Right. Outer darkness, and I was going away from, everything, just floating out into oblivion, and, and I saw a I was holding17:00 on to the world. Doesn't even make sense, but just giving you the story. I'm holding on to the world. I'm hanging off like there's gravity pulling me away from the world,17:12 and and, and I didn't wanna let go because I'm thinking I'm17:17 Keep going. Going. Yeah. We're we're17:18 gonna go after this, but I heard a whisper. I heard a a God's voice in my ear to let go.17:25 Hold that thought right there. This is good. Stay right there. We are gonna come back with Craig Dunman and this amazing story of being rescued literally from the pit. We'll be right back.17:36 Hello, everyone. I'm excited to announce the next generation of energy drinks, Rev 7. It has no sugar and no caffeine. Instead, Rev 7 uses GoShow more In this video 0:00 A Troubled Past and Path to Darkness8:18 The Terrifying Vision of Hell17:41 Salvation and Eternal Peace
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