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The Political Landscape and Spiritual Warfare 0:22 Welcome to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. I'm Michelle Humphreys.0:25 And I am Naina Keegan. We are here at NRV filming live in Nashville, Tennessee. It is the largest gathering of Christian communicators in the world, and we have a very special guest. Michelle,0:38 you wanna do the intro?0:39 Oh my0:39 goodness. He is shy. We love him.0:42 Love him. He is an American commentator for the Christian Broadcasting Network, America's real voice, and 1 of our favorite people on the planet. And here in the book, The0:54 Faith of Donald j Trump. Yeah. Will you please welcome David Brody the best. Wow. We1:00 love you, David. You know.1:01 What an intro. Thank you so much. I'll Venmo you.1:04 What's your Venmo address? We'll get you after.1:07 Okay. Good.1:09 So, you know, you're you're in the thick of things. Politics, all things going on, and we know how crazy it is. What is going on? What's what's on your heart right now? What's happening with the1:20 with the campaign and everything that's going on right now?1:23 Well, there's so much to unpack. Yeah. Where do we even begin? Obviously, Donald Trump is in a very, very good position to win back the White House1:31 Right.1:31 In 20 24. I think that goes without saying.1:34 But does the Republican party know1:36 that he's in the position?1:37 Yeah. And and and that's an act actually an excellent question because1:41 Yeah.1:41 The Republican party base knows. In other words, those conservative MAGA voters. But the elites, different story.1:48 They're going through the 5 stages of grief.1:50 Oh, a hundred percent. Nikki Haley is their leader Yeah. Of that career.1:53 She's a democrat. Let's just say.1:55 Listen. I don't know what has gotten into Nikki Haley. I'll be honest with you. And I've known Nikki Haley for 15 years. And, you know, if if you wind back the clock 15 years, this was a different Republican party.2:06 Right. Nikki Haley would have been speaking at CPAC, for example. She'd be at NRB. Right. She would have been here speaking, and we would have been 15 years ago cheering some of what she said on. Sure. The2:17 party has changed. Donald Trump changed the party. But before Donald Trump, and you ask what's on my heart, what's really going back before Donald Trump is the Tea Party in 2010. Before that, Sarah Palin came2:29 on the scene, 2 years before that. Ron Paul was talking about a lot of this stuff, back in the day. There has been a We The People, a kind of mini revolt, if you will, for a long time in this country. And2:41 Donald Trump just came along, and he's been really obviously the catalyst, of all of this. And so here we are today, and, we can get we can unpack it more, but that's kind of an overview.2:52 Well, you know, he's the 1 that, you know, they were all he's not even coming to the to the town halls. He's not gonna come and do the, you know, all those little, you know, chats where they fight it out. But he didn't3:03 need to. He he already proved what he's going to do. He doesn't have to stand there and tell people. And so so people made fun of him for that, but I think he's just every time they come after him3:15 for things, like the indictments and all of these things, he just grows, grows, grows, grows, grows in the bowl. It's like there's an anointing for some. You know, he3:23 Yeah.3:24 His record stands alone for what he did. No more. Let's just start there.3:28 Well, we can start there for sure, and you make a great point. And so then the question becomes why. 91 indictments, everything going on, that would sink any other candidate. Why why Donald Trump? And I I believe on the3:40 you're talking about the anointing for sure. There's no doubt about that. But let's just talk the politics of it for a second or at least the state of the country. This country is in a world3:49 of hurt. Yeah. And3:50 there is a 2 tiered system of justice. But here's the thing, not because Donald Trump says so.3:54 Right.3:54 Okay? That this is what the media doesn't get. They think that Donald Trump you know, everybody's in the cult of Donald Trump. No. They're not. The the reason that Donald Trump is resonating, now especially, is4:06 because folks in the country, especially conservatives, see that there is a 2 tiered system of justice. And they're not just looking at Donald Trump. They're looking at pro lifers as it relates to the FACE Act that is4:16 used against them by the DOJ. Look at the j sixers who have been wallowing in jail for a couple of years, many of them, without a trial. You know, you can go down the list. What about parents at school board meetings? I4:28 mean so there's a this DOJ and this under under the Biden regime has, in essence, played into this narrative of a 2 tiered system of justice. I mean, just think about4:40 the Robert Hur special report a special report. Well, the the special counsel report. Yeah. He talked about specifically that Joe Biden, was not going even though he willfully took classified documents, he he wasn't4:51 gonna be prosecuted because he's an elderly man with a memory problem.4:54 That can run the country.4:55 That can run oh, that can run the country.4:57 And be the commander in chief.4:59 Right. But here's the thing. So think about the 2 tiered system of justice here. The DOJ appoints a special counsel and says to Trump, you willfully took documents, and we wanna put you in jail. The DOJ, gets a special5:10 counsel for Biden, says you willfully took consular documents as well, and we wanna send you to memory care. That's the difference. That's the difference, and that's the 2 tiered system of justice.5:20 And I think even like, if you even listen to Alan Dershowitz, I mean, you know, these democrat attorneys are are saying this is outrageous, what they've done. Like, even now what just happened with the 350000000 dollar,5:31 you know, new it's just how I mean, like, honestly, and when they're saying like, you were just saying that Mar a Lago is worth 18000000, like, there's a there'll be a beach house with 2 bedrooms that's worth 10.5:42 Yeah.5:42 And, you know, Mar a Lago's got, like, 60 bedroom. I mean, it's just insane what they've been trying to say. It's lie after lie after lie, but people believe these things. It's outrageous, really.5:51 Yeah. It really is.5:52 And the border what do you think about that? Like, what is happening? We live in Texas. The border's not closed.5:59 I'm I'm5:59 here to tell you everyone.6:00 Colony Ridge, which is the next county over, and it's overtaking everyone. It's a6:05 foreign country in there.6:07 There's schools, the septic systems,6:10 the the everything. The the drugs Yes. Infiltrating is outrageous.6:14 Well, here's here's the reality. Right? Everybody wants to line their pockets, and make some money off of the illegal immigration situation, which we can get into later on that. But but here's here's the ultimate6:26 problem, and this is kinda wraps up Ukraine a little bit too. Right? Ukraine and the border always and the US border kinda tied together. Why in the world we've heard the argument. Right? Why in the world are we giving a6:36 hundred, 200, whatever it was, billion dollars to Ukraine, 60000000000 in the latest supplemental6:41 Yeah. But we6:42 can't even secure our own border Right. Which is totally true, which makes sense. But here here's the problem. The American people do not trust Now this has been going on for a while, but it has reached critical mass.6:54 Yeah.6:54 And so we've lost faith in our public institutions. We've lost faith in the media. We've lost faith in, in our government officials. And so you just go down the list, And specifically, in terms of7:06 losing faith in, in the media, let's be honest, a show your wonderful show has germinated and has become popular 10 years on almost 10 years on the air. Why? Because there's a vacuum.7:18 There's a vacuum for truth. And and and that's what we're talking about here. Same I've had I've had the same thing. Look. I was on Meet the Press for 20 plus times till 2018. Trump came on the scene. I've been7:28 blacklisted. I haven't been on 6 years. Why is that? Well, we know because the media wants to create a narrative, and if you go against their narrative, you're done. So that's the faith in that public institution. But as7:39 it relates to the border, I mean, it's the same thing. We, the people, in this country, do not trust our politicians. We know they're not gonna get the job done, on our border as much as, even Republicans7:51 talk about it. They're not gonna do it. Maybe some Republicans want to, but those aren't really that's they're not establishment Republicans for sure. So here's the point. If they're not gonna if we've lost faith that8:02 they're not gonna do it, then surely as heck, we're not giving any money to Ukraine. So and now even Israel is in the crossroads of that funding. And that's a whole separate discussion because I do believe there's a8:12 promise in Genesis8:14 for free8:14 Hundred percent.8:15 Supporting Israel. But I do think it bears, talking and discussing at some point about how much money should we be giving Israel or do they have enough already? Do they need any extra money? That and and look, I grew up8:27 Jewish. You know my story. So, I mean, I have a heart for Israel, but I do think that's also part of the discussion.8:32 Well, you know, if you think about it, like, the the border in general, like, just when when they're coming out and they're saying it's closed and, you know, there's there's a legal way to come in. There's a legal way to8:42 come in, but when they're when you're looking I read a report and I knew I know even Tucker has talked about it and all these things, that it's 76 percent military age men8:51 Right.8:51 Coming in Right. And and Chinese military age men. So Xi Jinping doesn't let people just, you know, leave.8:59 That's right.9:00 Especially, you know, so what's the what's the deal? Like, he's just not, like, letting them go leave and seek asylum, military age men. And so why and then I don't know. You've seen the reports where the flight's9:12 in the middle of the night, dropping them off and all the different what's really going on? And no one's talking about this.9:17 Well, that is what's really9:18 going on.9:19 Yes. Yeah.9:19 And so what's gonna happen? What is the assignment of these people on our country? And why is it happening? Why is it being allowed? Why isn't nobody speaking up about this? They're they're the ones funding you're9:29 reading the stories about all these drugs. So what is happening? What is the real reason Mhmm. That we have this border wide open? Because these people aren't women and children, primarily.9:39 Well, I think there's a lot going on, and you're right about the military age men that are coming in. For sure, you don't hear that at all on Rachel Maddow and CNN. You're not gonna hear any of that shit.9:47 No. They don't even report it. Yeah.9:49 They don't report it. No. But apparently, it's just a conspiracy theory by us. Well, you know what? At this rate, we're running out of conspiracy theories. Yeah.9:55 But we're looking at them in Texas.9:57 A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. And here's the thing. The the the media will spin this as, like, some poor families that are coming over for a better life. I'm not saying there aren't some of those for sure.10:06 Right. Exactly.10:06 But that is not the only narrative going on, and there's something more devious and nefarious.10:10 Yes.10:11 For sure. So so there's that at play as well. But also this I believe this all boils down also to what we call HR 1 in Washington d c DC speak. In other words, that bill, that voting bill that Democrats wanna10:23 pass and totally change our election system to allow legal immigrants, to vote. Vote. And they wanna change the electorate. So because a lot of people will say, well, it's it would make sense politically for Democrats,10:34 to close the border because you're losing on that issue. Right? You're losing politically on issues. The Democrats know that. They don't wanna close the border. Right. The the re and it's not even because they want open10:43 borders. It's not just that. It's because okay. So it might help them in this election, let's say, with independence and and common sense people. It might help them in the short term. But the long term goal is to bring10:54 all of these folks in because they believe that ultimately that will lead to secure elections for them. The Democrats would stay in power. Forever. And this is the power. This is what11:02 we're talking about. Want 1 world order. They do. That that is the goal.11:06 They do.11:06 Hence, the WHO and the Biden administration Handing off economy. America's sovereignty to the WHO, which is coming down the tracks in May. And, I mean, this is a topic11:18 that I think needs to be discussed, and no 1 is talking about it. Tony Perkins is talking about it on, Washington Watch.11:26 Yeah. There there's no doubt about it. We've gone to that, not only that 1 world order, but just the globalism writ large. Right? The globalist agenda. And but the good news is sometimes you have to go 1 step back to go11:37 2 steps forward. Right. And the light is being, shown, if you will. It's been shined. I'll get my verbiage ready.11:45 It all sounds good.11:46 It's shining a light on all of this. Right? That's what you you both are doing every single day, and it's important because people are seeking the truth. I mean, number 1, the truth is that Jesus Christ is lord and11:57 savior, and then we go from there. And the Bible is true. It is the inherent word word of God. And so, there's a there's12:05 a lot to unpack. Well, you know what I find interesting is that in Christendom, we have 1 third of Christians saying they could never vote for Donald Trump again. What do you think about that?12:17 Well, I I'll be honest with you. That is something I've given a lot of not just thought to, but it has concerned me deeply. And I'll I'll tell you this. There's a couple of things going on. There's an acquiescing to the12:27 culture. Right. Right? These are these are times where you need to be bold, and it's not even about shrinking away. If you're just gonna be stagnant so so I'm not saying be weak, but if you're12:39 just stagnant, that's not gonna get the job done today. You have to be bold.12:42 That's lukewarm.12:43 Lukewarm is gonna hit.12:44 Spew you out.12:45 That's right. I think we know something about that in the New Testament where that's12:48 when you12:49 when you talk about the new, the lukewarm churches. Right? That's where we are today, and we cannot be there. We need a new black robe regimen in this country as it relates to pastors speaking about the12:58 cultural, political, ideological They got churches back. Yes.13:00 For sure. But we need an informed citizenry as well. Yeah. So you put all of that together. But in terms of the Donald Trump situation, yeah, it's been very, very frustrating. I think what Trump has done, and I wanna say13:12 in a good way, though it doesn't feel good, is that he's revealed the split, the underbelly of the church. I think we saw that a lot during COVID when churches went ahead and just, said, you know, we're gonna shut it13:24 down because the government told us to.13:26 Right. You13:26 know, hold on for a second. So you put that along with Trump kind of speaking out and people having, in essence, choose sides to a degree. Are you for Trump or against Trump? It's not about Trump. You know, are you for13:37 what he stands for, or are you against what he stands and he's trying to speak the truth. Does he do it in the most artful, nice way? This just in, no. No. He doesn't. But that's not13:49 the point. That's a little bit too myopic.13:52 Right. Well, I think you're known as a friend to Donald Trump. You you've even been criticized for this, but and you've literally written a book on the face of Donald j Trump. Yes.14:04 So tell us how he's doing, like, with all the spiritual warfare going about him. Does he realize it's spiritual warfare?14:13 I think he does. I think he does, for a couple of reasons. 1, he has a lot of folks that are counseling him in that vein. Yes. So so, you know, because he didn't grow up in that spiritual warfare environment. Right? I14:23 mean, what Donald Trump was not heading to the Pentecostal church. You know what I'm saying? But forget even the Pentecostal church, you know, any church. But he is getting that advice, and he's been getting that advice14:34 for many, many years. And, you know, it's important to seek godly counsel, and that's exactly what he's doing. Now does it come out, the the way you would say it in church? No. But you know what? He's a brash New Yorker14:45 from Queens who's got a huge chip. I'm sorry. A boulder on his shoulder. Yeah. You know, and that's and that's14:50 And can you blame him? Like, really? Right. I mean, like and that's the thing if you would think that he's basically a new Christian. I mean, we know he's saved, you know, and so but to think about, like, you know, how15:00 long we've walked with Lord, forgiveness is a tough 1, you know. And so with the things that have come against him and his family over and over again, but, you know, if 1 of the Trump kids did anything close to what15:11 Hunter Biden has done, can you imagine? Can you even imagine? And yet we all see this, but even Democrats are seeing this. Like, people are seeing this across the board. Like, this is not fair. There's there in there15:22 this is a 2 tier justice system. But if you if you just there's so many people say, I'll never vote for Donald Trump. He's he's this, he's that. But it's like, back that up. Let me get like, was your 4 0 115:34 k better? Was your was your was your gas bill cheaper? Like, little things that matter to Americans. Was your border secure? You know, did we have any wars going on? Like, just why why are you saying that? Back up what15:45 you're saying. And most people can't do it.15:47 No. They can't.15:48 They just think he's oh, he said a cuss word or he said something. Like, they don't they don't get it.15:52 Well, I would say that those folks are 1 paragraph deep, but that would be too kind. They're about a sentence deep. Right? Yeah. I mean, in other words, Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. Roar.16:01 And then it's like, explain.16:03 And they go blank. They don't have anything. Look at the Christian nationalist argument. Right? You know, we hear all these Christian nationalists, and then what do they do? All political and all these folks, they talk16:13 about evangelicals. So let me get this straight. Every evangelical is a quote Christian nationalist. Yeah. You know what? Sign me up. You know? Sign me up. George Washington. Get my way. Christian nationalist. Yeah. You16:25 know? And so, I mean, really. I mean, just get ridiculous. But words matter. Language matters. The narrative matters because the legacy media used to have a stranglehold on the narrative. The good news is shows like16:36 yours and many others are now changing that because people are seeking out on streaming, video and and television shows, the truth. And shame on the media. They they were derelict16:48 in their duty on that.16:49 Well, even the morning show, I mean, the ratings are through the roof. Tell us about that.16:54 Yeah. Sure. It's on Real America's Voice. It's called American Sunrise. I cohost it with Gina Loudon and Terrence Bates. It's been great. It's from 8 to 10 in the morning.17:03 It's funny. They have such a good rapport.17:05 Well, I'm glad you I'm listening. Thank you for saying that because we we feel the way you what you see on the air17:10 is is just17:11 how we feel.17:11 Yeah. It's all in the air.17:13 I think the the news, as heavy as it is today, it needs to be delivered like that. You know? It A little17:19 more lifehearted. Refreshing. Mhmm. Thank you.17:21 No. You bet. Well, anyhow, so we're just really excited doing it, and, we have some great guests to come on, you know, top notch guest. And so I don't know. It's just been a real fun to be able to, really17:32 articulate that. You know, 1 of the messages I was just articulating the other day, and I wanted to talk a little bit about this as I transition our conversation.17:41 Go for it.17:42 Oh my gosh. I'm an expert in wait. I was let's say I was an expert in transitioning. Hold on for a second. It's a17:48 different network.17:49 It's a17:49 different network. That's right. No. But I wanna talk about the gaslighting, if I could of America. The Biden regime. Think about what they've done. Right? The other day, Joe Biden came out and said, I'm mentally fine.18:00 And Americans were like, don't gaslight us. Right. Look at the the economy. Oh, the economy's doing great. Don't gaslight us. And then, the the border, the the the homeland security secretary, Alejandro18:11 Mayorkas, the impeached homeland security secretary, who said over 19 times, 21 actually to be exact, in front of congress, he said, quote, the border is secure. Do not gaslight us. And18:23 here's the problem. In politics, and I've covered politics, you know, since, whatever, reconstruction or it's just felt18:28 that way.18:29 It's been a while. I can tell you this, that the minute you lose you lose when you disconnect from18:36 Reality. And the reality. Reality.18:38 When you're living in an alternate universe, you're done. Mhmm. And so you can look at the poll numbers all you want. We can talk about Biden's mental health or lack thereof and, you know, and Applesauce Joe and all18:47 that. But the truth of the matter is is that he is disconnected from reality, and they have to disconnect because they've gotta sell something. And the sad part is some Americans will buy18:58 it. Yeah.18:59 And that's why shows like yours are very important. Citizen, citizens have to be informed.19:05 Well, and19:05 don't you think courage begets courage? Yeah.19:07 100 percent.19:08 And you guys are delivering courage every morning. Yeah.19:11 Well, thank you. And we we really try. And I I do have a concern, kinda getting back to the church question and as it relates to our show on Real America's Voice, that what we're doing is19:23 courageous as it relates to talking about topics that19:26 Yeah.19:27 People don't wanna touch, hot topics, but not hot topics just for sensationalism. Right. Things that are going on. Military age men coming into the in the country, all of that type of stuff and and so much more. But we19:38 have a church and a soft underbelly in the church that will not talk about biblical truths in19:46 strong Man. Fashion.19:47 Yes. And they just won't do it. And it is just it's it's hurting it's more than hurting. It's really crippling our society writ large because biblical truth is already under attack19:59 from the left. The last thing we need is folks in the church to be teeming with the left to give them more oxygen.20:06 The biblical worldview. Like, apart from god, we can't do nothing. This country is lost without god. Of course, the government rests on his shoulders, and so ultimately, we look for his plan and for his his20:18 sovereignty overall to just redeem and restore this nation, you know, but but we also we can't just stand there and let these elections you know, what are we doing? Do you know of anything that's going20:29 on to try to change what happened last time with our elections?20:35 So there's a long story to that. I mean, when I say long story, there's a lot going on. Now whether or not all of it will come to fruition and it'll make a difference, we just don't know. The Democrats are very good,20:46 very good at putting together, get out the boat operation. They just are.20:51 Legal Ballot harvesting. Or illegal.20:53 Yeah.20:53 Yeah. And when you say ballot harvesting, Michelle, that's right. And and let's be honest.20:57 Is that correct?Show more In this video 0:00 The Political Landscape and Spiritual Warfare
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