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The Sacred Trust of Elections 0:02 We wanna honor God because He sees everything.0:10 You were born with a plan and a purpose. He's the God of all things possible. He's the God of all0:22 miracles.0:52 Welcome to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. I'm Michelle Humphreys.0:55 And I am Naina Keegan. Today, we are so excited to have a very special guest on our broadcast. You are not gonna wanna miss this. So Michelle That's right.1:05 Jody Hice was a Republican congressman from the state of Georgia. He is 1 of the most aggressive Republicans1:13 on1:13 the House Oversight Committee and a vocal defender of election integrity, a founding member of the House Freedom Caucus. Hice served in a multiple in multiple leadership roles on the board as the1:25 communications chair. He is, on Washington Watch. He is the senior vice president of Family Research Council, the president of Family Research Council Action,1:37 and a strong contender for election integrity. He's just written the book Sacred Trust, and there is nothing more important than election1:49 integrity for democracy. Welcome, Jody Heiss. We are so glad you're with us today. Thanks for joining us.1:57 Michelle Naina, what an honor to be with you. Thanks for your voices and all that you do. It's just it's a great honor to be with you. Thanks for having me.2:06 Jody, we are this is such such such an important topic, election fraud. The other day, I heard a statistic on the news. They said 76 percent of Americans now polled2:18 believe there was election interference. I mean, that's a lot of Americans. And so so and you know that you know, how many more just are not even saying that there is? I mean, there's overwhelming proof.2:30 We're seeing what's happening in in Georgia right now, what they said there was 303 hundred thousand votes that did not show up that that they know of for sure. And, you know, just in Fulton County, over and over2:42 again, we're seeing things come up and pop up. So your book, this is so important, Sacred trust. We we need to know what's going on so that we how do we stop this from happening again in2:53 just a few short months?2:55 Yeah. I mean, you're exactly right. The American people are deeply, deeply, and rightfully so, concerned about this whole issue of election integrity. This is the foundation of of our3:07 entire system of governance is allowing and enabling the voice of the people to be heard. And really, that's what elections are all about. You know, I think most of the time people think of elections as being a3:19 political activity. It's not. Elections are not about who wins or who loses an election. At the end of the day, all elections are about is whether or not the voice3:31 of the people was accurately heard3:33 Amen.3:34 And accurately recorded. And if we Right.3:37 If3:38 we ever lose that aspect, then, there is a massive threat to our democracy, to our, constitutional republic. It's when the voice of the people is no longer heard.3:49 That's exactly right. Well, let's let's kinda introduce the audience more to Jody Hice. Tell us a little bit about your story and how you4:01 ended up writing the book Sacred Trust.4:04 And you're also a pastor. Yes. That's right.4:07 Also a pastor and that's where it all started. I never I gave my life to Christ when I was 13 years old and, probably about 6 months after that was unquestionably called4:19 into the ministry. I will never forget that time. But since that point as a 13 year old teenager, every major decision in my life was focused upon preparing for ministry. I4:31 never dreamed I would do anything otherwise. And and I did. I mean, for almost 30 years, I was a pastor. I was involved in helping some individuals primarily in our church or other believers4:43 that I knew get elected to office if they were running, but never ever in my wildest dream was it on my radar that I would be involved in any capacity other than trying to help4:54 other Christians get elected along the way. But we had a couple of big battles. Both of them ended up being national in their attention. They came our way, and and I say our in5:06 terms of church family. And as a pastor, I stood up for them. And the first 1 involved the ACLU. They sued our county over a copy of the 10 commandments. And that was during a time that the5:18 10 commandments was a national issue. And our church happened to put those commandments in our county, courthouse. We had some county commissioners part of our church family.5:30 We bought the commandments. We hung them in the courthouse. And so the ACLU literally not only came after the county, but some church members. And so, being the pastor, I thought it was5:42 important to stand up for the 10 commandments, obviously, but also stand up for our church members in our county. So I went before the county commission and urged them. I I basically said to them, if5:54 you'll fight the ACLU, then I'll pay for it. I'll find a way to pay for this so that it does not cost our, taxpayers of our county, but you have to stand. And they kinda looked at each other6:06 and they said, all in favor, say aye. And they said aye. I had no idea what I just stepped into. It was a life transforming moment. Just bottom line,6:18 for 3 years, we fought that battle in federal court. After 3 years, we lost it. 1 of the saddest days of my life. But then we turned our attention to the state6:29 legislature and for another 6 years dealt with the state legislature. And I was so honored at the end of that 6 years to be in governor Nathan Deal's office as he signed a bill6:41 that said, in essence that, a 9 document historical display, which included the 10 commandments, are legal in any government building in the state of Georgia. And if there's a6:53 lawsuit, the state will fight the lawsuit, not the county or the municipality. So those, documents, the 10 commandments went right back up in our county. And to this day, almost month7:05 after month after month, we're having different counties and so forth, take up the 10 commandments. So that was the first. And that pushed me out into a national focus. A radio program started out of7:17 that that ended up going national. We were on about 400 stations every day. And then the second battle, and I'll try to be quicker, involved, the IRS and their attempts to silence what7:29 can and cannot be said from churches, for potential threat of losing your tax exempt status. The, Alliance Defending Freedom was our legal backdrop, but I ended up being 1 of 33 pastors7:41 across the country to challenge the IRS. And, I and the others, we, endorsed a candidate from the pulpit. In our church, I can say this, we were packed packed7:53 with, not only people but media of everybody you can think of, every media Nancy Pelosi's daughter was on the front row. She was8:02 No way. Wow.8:04 She was writing a documentary for HBO. And I it was but anyways, I endorsed a candidate and so forth, went through all of that. And then the next day, sent a copy of that sermon8:15 to the IRS along with a letter. And the letter basically said, here's a sermon. I'm not trying to hide anything. I do not believe I've broken any law. In fact, I believe8:27 your IRS code is unconstitutional, and I challenge you to come after me. I did that. Wow.8:34 That's brave.8:35 I did that. The other 32 did it, and, we waited. The IRS did nothing. So all of us got together again and we said, let's do it again. Within the8:47 second time, in that time, I think there was, like, a hundred and 68 churches across the country participating. And then we continued doing it, and that ended up becoming a national movement called pulpit freedom Sunday.8:59 And, again, ADF was our our backdrop with that. But, that was the case that ended up driving me to congress. Both of those took on national attention, but it was the removal9:11 of the Johnson amendment that I said, we've got to protect religious liberties. And, that is that was really the primary issue that led me to congress. Our our representative retired, and we had people9:22 start calling Didi and myself and asking us if we would pray about running. And that's how it all got started. And we ended up, feeling like God's leading was, to go to congress9:34 and to defend religious liberties and so forth. And he opened the path, and it was an incredible honor.9:40 I love that story, Jody. Thank you for sharing that. And you know what we didn't mention in your introduction is Didi is 1 of the best things about Jody Hice. His wife is wonderful. We're gonna come back in9:52 just a moment, and we'll talk more, to Jody Heise, and we'll talk about Sacred Trust.9:59 I'm excited to announce that we're bringing back our best offer ever on our original My Slippers. You saved 90 dollars a pair with your promo code. And now My Slippers come in even more sizes.10:12 Smaller sizes, larger sizes, wide sizes, and all new styles and colors. Get them for your friends, your family, your neighbors, everyone you know. What makes my slippers different is my exclusive10:24 4 layer design that you're not gonna find in any other slippers. My slippers' patented layers make them ultra comfortable, extremely durable, and they help relieve stress on your feet. 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We can't shrink back in fear, and we know that that, so many things are being shut down and people are being silenced, you know, and and people are11:35 complying to these things and being afraid to speak out or to to thinking they're gonna get shut down or or what have you. So why are so you're here you are. You're reading written a11:47 book about election integrity. You're standing up to all of these things. So tell us why you're doing this and why you think this is so important. We all know, but we wanna hear it from you.11:59 Well, I I was gonna share with you again how how this this got started. I when I went to congress, my whole motivation was religious liberties and, repealing the Johnson Amendment, which was the, case12:11 that, we we were involved with the IRS. Election integrity was not on my radar when I went to congress, but I ended up becoming a senior member on the oversight committee. And I'm sure you will12:23 remember, we had our very first case of COVID in the United States. 1 case in Washington state. The very next week, Democrats started holding hearings in the12:34 oversight committee about the need to federalize our elections, that a pandemic was on the way. People are gonna be fearful to go to the ballot boxes. Some may be sick. There may be lockdowns. There may be whatever. And12:46 all of a sudden, they started demanding. It was week after week after week with these hearings on a the need for election reform. While the rest of the country, myself included, we were all wondering12:58 what is COVID even going to mean for us and for our families, our loved ones, our they immediately started pushing for election reform. And then they added a second layer to their13:10 argument, which was voter suppression is a problem throughout the entire country. And they basically held up Georgia as exhibit a for their argument. And13:19 Wrong state.13:21 I was like, I know better than this. And so I started pushing back and others did. I certainly was not alone, but we started pushing back, me on the Georgia issue primarily, but then also on the entire13:33 push towards a federal takeover of our elections. And that's how I got involved. It was just week after week after week, we started battling this stuff. And, 1 thing just ended up leading to another.13:45 And I was shocked. I have to tell you that I was shocked. Although what they were pushing for did not become federal law, COVID became the excuse for state13:56 after state all across the country, secretaries of state, most of the time totally bypassing their state legislatures, and they unilaterally started making decisions14:08 to transform their state election laws. And so we started seeing ballot harvesting and mail in ballots and drop off box. All these horrible things, things that never would have been accepted14:20 by the state legislature started becoming, laws through a unilateral emergency decisions from state leaders. And from that perspective, we ended up having the14:32 mess that we just saw, and now we have to correct it.14:37 Well and and then once we had the 20 20 election, tell me take the story from there, the Jody High story from there.14:47 Yeah. Well, that's what took me out of congress. I, Georgia had a disastrous election and, right in the middle of all of that was our secretary of state who likewise14:59 unilaterally made some decisions that, in my opinion, compromised the election process in Georgia, so I challenged him. I ran for secretary of state, and that's a whole another issue which I address in the book how all15:11 that went down. But the short of it, I did not win that that election. But, it is all of this combined, both my experiences on this election issue in15:23 congress as well as what I experienced as a candidate for secretary of state in Georgia that, I I just learned a great deal. That being said, election, the the book Sacred15:35 Trust is not about the 20 20 elections. It is about the issue of election integrity, which should be a concern to both sides of the aisle.15:47 Amen.15:47 At the end of15:48 the day, anybody, everybody who's an American should be concerned that we have free and fair elections where only 1 legal ballot is cast, 1 legal ballot is counted, and the voice of the15:59 people is accurately heard and counted. That is the issue. And so I'm trying to drive home the importance of the issue, and and to appeal to Americans not to16:11 go back and try to rehash some of the disasters of 20 20, but to protect and defend and to give guide, a pathway for defending election integrity going forward.16:22 So do you think, Jody, that any of these issues have been fixed? Like, how how do we think that they're not gonna ballot harvest? How do we think they're not gonna stuff ballot boxes? You know, I I personally16:34 got several ballots at the 20 16 election at at my address. You know? So how are how are they stopping any of this? You know, no there's a lot of places not saying that you don't16:46 need voter ID. There's there's places trying to let to let the illegal immigrants vote without ID, you know, in a in a lot of the smaller local elections. So how is this giant mess? It's it's16:58 it's just seems like it's just festering in so many ways. Has any of this been cleaned up? Have the voter rolls been cleaned up? You know, there's dead people voting. There's so so many issues. So what makes us17:10 think that anything is going to change? And on top of that, because of all of these issues, people say it doesn't matter anyway and I'm just gonna stay home because they're just gonna cheat. And so what do you think17:22 about all of this?17:23 Yeah. And and that is absolutely the worst thing that anyone can do Right. Is we cannot do that. And maybe I'll have a chance to circle back around to that because it's such a major issue. But listen. It17:35 all depends on where you live. The the answer to your first question.17:38 That's very true.17:39 The constitution says that the time, place, and manner of elections are left to the individual states. So and and our founders did that for a very specific reason. They did not want17:51 a centralized, federalized area where elections are counted. That is, in itself problematic and, reeks with opportunities of fraud right there.18:03 But so they divided it to the states because it's much more difficult to state to to cheat when it's spread out across the board rather than centralized. And so it depends on where you18:15 live. As a result of COVID, we had all sorts of changes all across the country. There are many, many states, dozens and dozens of states that have taken very18:27 aggressive action to protect and defend the election integrity of their various states. Unfortunately, there are many states that have not. In fact, they've embraced some of those things that I referenced that came out18:38 of the oversight committee, and they have enshrined those into laws. And as of now, they're not budging. And then you have some other states are kinda middle of the road. They're they're just kinda wishy washy. They've18:49 made some changes, but probably not enough. And so I would give us probably a c, whereas in 20 20, we're probably a d minus,19:01 nationally speaking. And and that may be there again, it depends on where you live. But, but we've made nationally we made some good progress. Some states19:12 have probably in the low a or b range. So we've made good progress, but there's still room to go. There's no question about that. But to stay at home and19:24 not vote cannot be an option. That's absolutely the worst thing in the world that can happen.19:30 That's exactly right. And we're gonna come back in just a minute with congressman Jody Heise.19:36 I'm excited to announce that we're having our biggest Christmas sale ever. You get our brand new 6 piece my towels for only 29 98, rejuvenate your bed with a MyPillow19:48 mattress topper as low as 99.99 dollars or how about MyPillow bed sheets for as low as 24.98 dollars There's something for everyone. Duvets, quilts, down comforters,20:00 body pillows, bolster pillows, and so much more. Well, I know my pillow products make for the perfect Christmas gifts, so I'm gonna extend my money back guarantee until March first 20 24.20:12 So go to mypillow dot com now or call the number on your screen. Use your promo code to get huge discounts on all my pillow products. For example, you get our 6 piece towels for only20:23 29.98 dollars or get your very own MyPillow bed sheets for as low as 24 98. It's our biggest Christmas sale ever. Get all your shopping done now while quantities20:35 last.20:37 Welcome back to Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle, and you are watching, and listening to our very special guest, congressman Jody Heise. Jody, it's been amazing chatting with you. So what now?20:49 What do we do? How do we fix these things?20:51 I have heard that the Democrats are running the election system like a military operation. What are you seeing out there, Jody?21:00 Well, you know, I have spoken with a lot of attorneys and, and look, they I think we are as prepared. They tell me they are as prepared as they know how to be.21:12 The question would be, do any of us really know what's coming? So, you know, there is probably some sort of it started getting kind of comical how it seemed like, there would be21:24 some sort of pandemic, with every major election. So is there gonna be another election, variant coming out this year? We'll we'll wait and see. Who knows? But listen, the the fact is there's21:36 a lot of people who have prepared. And, we will have more people on the ground as poll workers, poll watchers, observers,21:48 than we've ever had. We're gonna have more people praying than we've ever had before. And just the fact that it is an awareness is in itself21:59 a great boost to bring security to elections even to those states that have not done an adequate job in legislatively protecting the integrity of the ballot box. So22:11 I think we're going into this, in pretty good shape. You know, obviously, there's a lot of things that states can do, but, again, there's a lot that has been done for sure.22:23 Well, we have to we know when you said praying, of course, you know, God is sovereign. The government rests on his shoulders. Apart from him, we can do nothing. You know, we have to just be watchful. I know when you22:34 said, you know, a pandemic, it just seemed like the timing when you were mentioning earlier that instantly, as soon as 1 person was sick, they started all the plans for the election stuff. But even now, when you don't22:46 see the Biden administration campaigning, so you kinda makes you wonder why don't they feel like they need to campaign. And so what are they what's up their sleeve, you know, and I've even heard people talking about some22:57 kind of martial law situation and, you know, all these other things that could come up. I know that in an election year, especially when 1 is as crazy as this, you know, we're we're we're gonna see something.23:09 And so, you know, what do you say to people who might be fearful of these things? And, you know you know, how do we stay focused on what we need to do?23:19 It's you're never wrong doing the right thing. Good. Look. We are a country that does not work without involvement of the people. That's how our whole system works.23:31 It is we the people. We are a country based upon the consent of the governed, not the consent of the governing. And so it is the voice of the people that determines our23:43 representatives, which in essence determines the type of laws and policies under which we will all be living. So it is absolutely essential that our voice be heard.23:55 But beyond that as Christians, we are called regardless of what country we live, we are called to be salt and light. Well, it is impossible by definition. It is impossible to be salt and light if you're24:07 not engaged, if you're not involved. So as believers, we have both a spiritual duty to be engaged in what's happening in our country, but we also live in a country that doesn't24:19 work unless we're involved in it. So, and, and look there are, I think a lot of times believers miss the fact that God created 3 institutions. He created the family, he created the24:30 church and he created government. Government is not a man made idea. It is it is God created for civil society. He made it for our benefit. But if we as Christians are not24:42 going to engage it, then evil will. And so so these are these are basic principles that I, try to tell everyone. This is why we need to vote.24:54 Amen. That's awesome.24:56 So what would you encourage the audience to do to be prepared for the next election? What do they need to do? Give us your call to action. Besides buy your book, Sacred Trust. We25:08 everybody buy Jody Heise's book, Sacred Trust.25:13 Yeah. That's a great, that's a a great start. And by the way, Sacred Trust, is the name because elections are a sacred trust. Both for the voter and for our25:25 elected officials whose duty it is is to ensure that we have fair elections and the voice of the people is heard. This is a sacred, if you can put it that way, a sacred trust that we have25:37 in this country. But look, there's a lot of things people can do, from from holding our representatives accountable. You've mentioned a few of the problems earlier from ballot harvesting to, voter files that are way25:49 out of whack. I mean, ballot drop off boxes, signature verification, photo ID. I mean, there's a host of problems, all of which we as26:00 individual citizens can be involved in helping change some counties rule, determine how elections are within, others statewide. But the people can have a26:12 huge voice in making sure that those things are upheld. But then as poll workers and poll watchers, and if you see something that looks out of place to blow the whistle, so to speak, don't be26:24 bashful.26:25 That's right. And and and and God hears our voice, and we have about 45 seconds left. Jody, will you pray for our audience? And then we'll talk26:36 about how to get your book. Yeah.26:38 Tell us where they can find you.26:40 Okay. Okay. Lord, thank you so much for this conversation. Thank you for the current concern we have for our country and for this issue of election integrity. I pray for those watching, hearing right26:52 now, God, that you would energize them with your spirit to take a stand and to courageously be men and women, believers, children of God, and citizens of this country to make27:04 a difference. Give favor and power in Jesus' name. Amen.27:08 Amen. Now you can go to Amazon dot com and wherever books are sold, right, to get Sacred Trust by congressman Jody Hice. He's the best27:20 by the book. 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