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Raising Children in Faith 0:02 We wanna honor God because He sees everything.0:10 You were born with a plan and a purpose. He's the god of all things possible. He's the god of all0:22 miracles.0:52 Welcome to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. I'm Michelle Humphries.0:55 And I am Naina Keegan. Today, we have a very special guest. He is our brother in Christ, but not only that, he's like a real brother to us. We love this guy. He's been a dear friend to us for many, many years,1:07 Michelle.1:08 He is a fourth generation Wyomingite, a recent state senator. He is the father of 5, the husband of 1, and his1:19 wife is running for school board. And so we would like to welcome Darren Smith to the program. Welcome, Darren.1:29 Oh, thank you, ladies. I'm so glad to be here today.1:32 And we are so glad you're gonna be here because we are gonna talk about a very important subject, which is train up a child. The Bible says train up a child in the way that they should go, and when they are older, they1:43 will not depart. Now, guys, Darren has 5 children, so he is qualified to to to talk about train up a child.1:54 Darren, tell us a little bit about your kids.1:57 Well, I do have 5 children, and and it's there it's really miraculous. My wife was done having kids at at at 3. And so I was looking out over the kitchen table, and2:09 I just knew somebody was missing. So I said I said, honey, as I said, Grace, somebody was missing from the table. And she said, we're never gonna have another kid as long as we live in this2:21 house. It's too small. It's this. It's that. I'm like, what do we gotta do?2:24 She said2:25 she told me exactly the kind of house that we had to have and where it needed to be. And I said, that's it.2:31 Done. Got it.2:33 So we, and so within 6 months, we moved into that house, and then we had number 4. And, yes.2:40 And then 5, you were ready to go. You already had the house.2:43 She heard from the Lord on 5. She would that was a no too. Right?2:47 It was a no too.2:48 Yes. We just2:50 only have a limited amount of time for the show, so we can get to all of it. Yeah.2:53 So so Darren, you know, we we had if you you have to go back and watch a a previous show that we filmed with Darren, and you're gonna wanna hear some of the great information on that show. But Darren,3:05 you tell us, you know, everything that's happening concerning children right now. Whether it's the 300 plus thousand children that are missing in our country, whether it's the drag queen3:17 story hours, whether it's the they let's kill babies at at, you know, at birth, whether it's the indoctrinations that they're receiving all the way through college. What and how if you're training up3:29 a child? You know, we hear 85 percent of Christian children raised up go to college and walk away from their faith.3:38 We're losing the information war. We're losing the war on terms. I mean, what gender affirmation, it sounds pretty good. Right? But3:47 it's not get the good words. Right? Affirmation.3:50 Yeah. Affordable Care Act. Right? Yeah.3:52 It's like, yeah. They just3:53 they they spin that. Right? Mhmm. So we've got to really we've got to really fight there. You mentioned that as this you mentioned so much. It's like drinking a fire hose, and they they never tire, and they never stop4:03 fighting, and and we better never stop fighting or we'll we're gonna lose. Right? But we're4:08 we're waiting. Exactly. Even if we win a battle, we need to remember that the Bible says evil is crouching at the door. Yeah. It is. The devil does not stop. He goes back, and4:20 he gets 7 of his friends, and he comes back, and it's even worse. So we have to stand firm in this hour.4:27 So if you're against pornography or or what you know, obscenity obscenity, which I guess is different than pornography because obscenity doesn't have pictures. But if you put pictures to it and it's in the school4:38 library, somebody would go to jail for traffic and kiddie porn. That's how bad some of the stuff that's in the schools or most of the school systems is. So, what do you do? I mean, you you just we we're we're fighting4:49 back, and, we can't be let them get away with, oh, they they call us book burners because we wanna keep the porn out of the school. And that way, we're not book burners. Are you kidding me? And they're like, oh, well,4:58 they want to take out To Kill a Mockingbird out of the out of the library. No, we don't. That's not true. You know? It's like but, you know, if you can't if if if you can't find it anywhere but Hustler magazine, you5:09 probably shouldn't probably shouldn't be able to find it at your school library. Right? I mean, that's kinda yeah. But, there's all kinds of fronts. Nina, you you mentioned, child mutilation, which the the the castration5:20 of kids we talked about previously. But 25 states have now passed laws to protect kids that it's now, it's criminal activity to chemically or physically castrate a kid, and5:32 that's a really good thing. That's a good movement that's that's taken place. And the Family Research Council has led the charge on that and which is5:39 Yeah.5:39 Definitely. And and5:41 even believe that that's a thing. Like, that that is literally has to be on ballots and that it's even a talking point or we've been sitting here discussing this reality. Right. It's5:53 just it's it's just unbelievable.5:55 But but you have 5 children5:57 Uh-huh.5:57 And they're serving the Lord.5:59 Yeah. Yeah. That's right.6:01 So what's the secret?6:03 Well, I think that, I think for the first 2 years when a child comes home, they don't do much. So you have some time to get your feet underneath you. Just like, you know.6:16 The best advice I ever got was from a professor at my church. Well, he was a professor at the university, but he went to church with me and he taught a bible study that I was in. And he said, Darren,6:28 either you control that kid or that kid controls you and your wife, and it starts the second you get him home. And, I started chewing on that's a big that's a that's a big piece of meat to chew on6:40 for6:40 a6:41 new dad. Right?6:42 Yeah. Sure.6:43 And the6:43 baby's so cute.6:44 Right. Exactly. Exactly.6:46 That'd be true.6:47 So, you know, the left knows this, and what they do is they indoctrinate. Brainwash. Well, we don't do that. We we embed truth. We we build a foundation.6:59 We teach. We mentor. We do all of the biblical things that we're supposed to do with our kids. It's this the the the devil has his way, but it's he's a counterfeit. He's always a7:10 counterfeiter, but there is a real there is a real way. There's a real way to do it, and it's God's way, And it starts with the word of God. And, and and I joke, yeah. The second my kids got home, it was7:22 God, family, country. Right? And another thing, I never tried to reason with my children. I never tried to give them really, they didn't have any options until they were 7. And I usually made a 8 because7:35 because science yourself another year.7:37 Because science says that a kid cannot reason. I don't care how smart your kid is. I don't care how you think your kid's smarter than every kid on the planet. They can't actually reason until they're in second grade, on7:48 average. So don't even try.7:49 Yeah. Just that's true. So you said, you know, you you you know, it's God and you had these different thing. Name some things. Tell people, like like, for instance, like, did you do devotions with8:01 them? What were some of the principles that that are things people can implement? Sure.8:06 Well, we did we we had a daily, a daily devotional time every single night before we went to bed. Every single night.8:12 With the whole family.8:13 With the whole family. Since this time How8:14 long did it last?8:16 You know, well, by the time the kids were in high school, the older ones were in high school, they'd be like, dad, it's been 30 minutes. We're tired. Let us go. But it would be so good, you know, it would be so meaty.8:26 Right? And, that I just, you know, we just would get I'd be like, well, if you guys would quit talking.8:32 That's right. That's right.8:34 We'd go through We'll8:35 hold the next 1 for our next segment, and we'll be back in just a moment.8:40 When I started MyPillow, it was just a problem, dedicated employees, we now have hundreds of products, some you might not even8:52 know about. To get the word out, we're having a 25 dollar extravaganza. 2 pack multi use MyPillows, 25 dollars. MyPillow sandals, 259:03 dollars. And for the first time ever, our 6 pack towel sets, you guessed it, just 25 dollars. Our brand new quart pack dish towels, 25 dollars. And I've9:15 never done this before. Premium My Pillows with all new Giza fabric, any size, any loft level, even king-size for only 25 dollars, and there's so much more. So So go9:27 to my pillow dot com or call the number on your screen. Use your promo code for our 25 dollar extravaganza. Order 75 dollars and over. Your entire order ships absolutely9:39 free.9:40 Welcome back to Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle and our fabulous guest, Darren Smith. And we're talking about raising up a child and some things that you can do to implement in your daily9:52 life that would be able to raise them up God's way.9:55 And we said 1 was a a daily devotional with the whole family.9:59 2 Well, I think beef I get just let me finish on that daily devotional. I think,10:03 if10:04 you don't know where to start and you don't know what devotionals to start with, I would start with Proverbs, and I would I would kill Proverbs. I would I would, I would hit it I would hit it probably for 6 months or a10:15 year with your older kids if they're teenagers. Just, hey, there's 1 proverb for every day of the month. Just just hit it, hit it, hit it. It's so rich. Man, I've been doing proverbs for 25 years, and I'm still, like,10:27 I've seen things that I never saw before. So just and your kids can't it is it is God's it is God's rule book for how to live. It is it is the plan. You cannot go wrong with Proverbs. So that would be, number 1.10:39 And also, Naina has a great devotional. 2 actually, 2 devotionals. It's a hundred days with God. And we did the first 1, and it was so awesome. I I, that we we had to do the10:51 second 1. And it10:53 Very sweet.10:53 You have things that happen. So it's like, you know, some days you can't do it. So you might be a hundred days with with God, and it takes maybe a hundred and 50 days or11:03 no. So11:07 I'm gonna share with you a nugget. And this is a this is I this is my these are pearls. I'm gonna just cast them before you right here. Amen. This is the best thing that I ever learned. You know, I used to say, hey,11:21 Sawyer, Cooper, Tucker, Katie, Ashley, don't do this. Don't make me count to don't make me count. If I get to 10, if I get to 3, or if, you know, 1 more time, and and then11:33 I I came across this teaching. And it was, no. The rule is this, you do what mommy or daddy says, you do it when they say it, and you do it with a good attitude.11:45 And if they violate any of those 3, then you have to you have to you have to, like, you have to disappoint them at some in your way. Now, we were we had no problem with with spanking kids,11:56 and, it actually and when it worked out great for us because then they they got the punishment. It was over. Right? And and then they could move on. But do it so they do what daddy says when he says it with a good12:08 attitude. That was the rule. If they violate it, we always what I would do is we would go to we would go to the, a spot in the house, and we would just discuss, hey,12:20 what happened? And so by the time they're old enough to raise it, if they're not old enough, if they're not 7 or older, just, you know, just just give them a little pat and get on with it. Right? And, you're good. But,12:30 I'm thinking, oh my goodness, talking about spanking kids on television.12:37 That's okay. The Bible says, you know.12:39 But then here's the other here's the other part of that. So then I would make them say, I'm sorry, and I repent. And repent means to turn from it. Mhmm. To turn12:51 from it. So and then they would we would we would hug and make up. And I actually got to thinking that 1 of my children not gonna throw him under the bus and say his name, but I got to thinking that he started to like13:02 it. So he would love to love to hug me after he got in trouble.13:08 Aw. And,13:09 but we'd walk out of the room. Every 1 of them always walked out happy. It never was, like, you know, like, never No.13:14 Yeah. They didn't carry it over, and it was it was done. And, you know, because really, kids, their their little attention spans and, like, when they're when they're small, they need that reassurance after that13:26 that that you do love them, that there's nothing that they could ever do that would cause you to not love them. And so, you know, but they they can own their mistakes, repent of what they did, or even I used to I13:37 remember I used to ask my kids, like, because they'd say, you're mean, like, if they got grounded, I'm like, wait a minute. Tell me what you did. What did you do to cause I mean, they were quite a bit older when this was13:47 going down, but what did you do? Did you have a hand in this? Like, you know, so, you know, once they can kind of recognize and own up to what they've caused or what they did, why are you in trouble? You13:59 know, why do you think?14:00 Right.14:00 And and discipline, you know, the Bible is not talking about, you know, when it says spare the rod, spoil the child. It's not talking about abuse. It's talking about,14:12 what Darren's talking about. They they walked out of that room happy.14:16 Not fearful. Happy. That's right. They were not exasperated. Yes.14:21 Like the Bible says.14:21 Bible says don't exacerbate. If you exasperate14:24 and over discipline your child, they'll be morose. They'll be confused, they'll get on the wrong path. You know, it leads to the opposite. So we have to know that it14:36 this type of discipline is different.14:38 And we never we never hit the kids with our hands. And so, like, if we did, like, a little 2 year old, you know, you got we had this little little spoon, and and our son Cooper would say, no. Paint me with the14:50 poon.14:51 Oh. So,14:54 you know, you just like we just bend them over and just give them a little and they cry and but it was, you know, it was like that's we never used our hands. Yeah. Right? And we never, like yeah. We never, like you know,15:04 you never just make a kid that they bring Or15:06 be in anger in your speech15:07 and Well, I was just saying, like, you know, by the time you actually you've actually told your kid, don't make me count to 3. By the time you actually do discipline, you're the 1 that15:16 needs to be timed out.15:17 Right? So it's Well, that's15:18 true. Yeah. Yeah.15:19 It's true. You never get mad. You just it's always like, hey. Well, sorry. We we we have 3 rules. They've been violated. Let's just make it quick. And they know where to go. They go stand and wait, and it's like they're15:29 not. Yeah.15:30 Alright. I used to say, like, even just, like, when my kids I remember when they were in high school and I was trying to get them up for school, and I'd yell for them to get up, and then I I'd started I'd I'd be so,15:38 like, like angry by the time they got down. They were like grumpy and mad and I'd be like, I woke up nice. What happened to me after that was your fault, you know, because it's like you're you're trying to, you know,15:49 because teenagers are a whole different ballgame. But, you know, it's it's really about saying what you mean and meaning what you say Mhmm. And being consistent. It's so key that they can know without a16:01 shadow of a doubt, if you've said this, this is exactly what you mean and this is what's gonna happen if Yes. They don't comply. Yes.16:07 Yes. And your no be no.16:09 Yeah. Amen. Amen.16:11 Well, you've done a great job. Your kids are amazing. So16:13 And your kids will they'll like the things that you inspire them to like. They just will. That's why that's why there's this battle raging for the school system. Right? Because they will. And so16:25 anything that had to deal with God, anything that had to deal with country, anything that had to deal with family, we just we just put it before them. We said, this is what this is the way you should go. This is what's16:36 important.16:36 That's that's amazing. And you have, your daughter Katie is a school teacher this year. This is her first year. Right? And see, to me, that's that's what we16:48 the church needs to encourage people to go into the school system and reverse what is happening. Yes.16:55 Well, and she she said, dad, I I have to go to a title 1 school. I I need to go to a school where I can make a huge difference. I wanna go to the poorest community in Wyoming. I'm not gonna tell you where that is because17:05 it's on TV here, but, it's a pretty poor community. So but yeah. It's like but it's like, am I proud I'm proud of her. Right?17:12 Yeah. Yes.17:13 I'm as proud of her as I am of of her brothers, maybe even more. And she's we have a son in the Navy, and we have a son in the Army. And we're very proud17:19 of him. Where do they go?17:22 1 is in New York, and the other is in Maryland.17:24 And tell them where?17:26 Well, 1 is at is at the, naval academy, and the other is at is at West Point. We're very blessed.17:31 Praise God. Right?17:33 So he knows how to train up a child in the way that they should go, and we're gonna talk more about that when we come back.17:40 When I started MyPillow, it was just a problem solution, 1 praty company. Well, since then, with the help of my dedicated employees, we now have hundreds of products, some you might not even17:52 know about. To get the word out, we're having a 25 dollar extravaganza. 2 pack multi use MyPillows, 25 dollars. My pillow sandals, 2518:03 dollars. And for the first time ever, our 6 pack towel sets, you guessed it, she has 25 dollars. Our brand new 4 pack dish towels, 25 dollars. And I've18:15 never done this before. Premium My Pillows with all new Giza fabric, any size, any loft level, even king-size for only 25 dollars, and there's so much more. So18:27 go to my pillow dot com or call the number on your screen. Use your promo code for our 25 dollar extravaganza. Order 75 dollars and over. Your entire order ships absolutely18:39 free.18:40 Welcome back to Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle, and we're talking to Darren Smith. And we are talking about raising up a child the biblical way, and then they will not stray from it when they grow18:52 older. So what you were telling us some points.18:56 Yeah. So, you know, we we talked about being in the word, being in a devotional, and we talked about, like, some parenting strategies. And I another important thing is they need to know who they are. They need to know19:07 what their country is. And so we spend a lot of time creating traditions around around who we are as a family and and around the country they live in.19:19 And so probably probably the the the tradition that we've formed that hits both of those is is, on the way to church, we are about 20 minutes away from our church. And by the way, my wife and I are19:31 the volunteer children's pastors. The reason for that is we just couldn't, we had we had 5 kids and it was about 10 percent of all the kids in the church.19:42 Gotta do your part.19:43 I gotta remind them I'm the volunteer children's pastor because, you know, they wanna call me staff and I'm like, I think you need to but anyway, but but what we did is this. So on the way to church, we19:55 would, we would sing songs. And there's 1 song that had to be sung every time we ever went to church, and that was God Bless America.20:05 Awesome. Awesome.20:06 Yeah. And that's our tradition. So now we this is it there's not a there's not been a Sunday in the last 20 years that that song has not been sung on the20:17 record. And that's not even an easy song to sing. Who has the good pipes?20:22 God bless America. It's easier. God bless America.20:25 Sing it, buddy.20:26 I don't know.20:26 I don't want I don't want anybody crying out there. So listen. No. But, that just layers what that actually was almost the national anthem. And, it it layers who who20:38 we are as a family Mhmm. And, and who we are as a nation. Right? That's really what what this nation is all about.20:45 Well, and the family is the incubator for freedom. It is. Yeah.20:49 So what about, like, teenage years? Like, any strategies for that? Did you have any issues? Were there was there any, like, okay, you know?21:00 Well, you know, every kid is different. And so you you meet each kid where they're at, you know, and you like, every kid has strengths and weaknesses, and and you just meet them in that. And I always said, I reserve the21:12 right to jerk you out of any circumstance that I want to. And if you're hanging out with anybody that I don't want you hanging out with, I'll cancel that, and I have. And, that's apparently, you need to be able to do21:24 that. We've had we've we've actually homeschooled kids because we didn't like the environment they were in, and we've had kids in the public school because it worked for them. So we've we've just met that child right21:34 where they're at. And I'll tell you, this doesn't have to do with anything spiritual, but we have a son, Cooper. He was ninth grade. He was 6 2.21:46 He looked like he could have played should have played football. But he was great at the band. And he said, dad, I'm gonna quit football to play band. And, I'm like,21:59 but that's not what we Smiths do. We we play football. I'm just like that. By the way, I did not they did not say that. I'm just being I'm being funny.22:06 See, sister.22:06 So I said but he really I I I prayed about it. I'm like, you know what? He is so gifted at band. He is so gifted, and that's what he wants to do. So sure. You go ahead. You22:18 play band and not football. Well, so he did, and he is like the the Tim Tebow or the Josh Allen of band.22:24 He was just he was special.22:27 And, then, they changed the rules. So then he he's a junior, and he's now he's 6 3, and he's, like, you know, big. And so he wants to go out for football, and the football team is like, yeah. Come on out.22:39 Be on our line. And and so he, he told the band directors, like, well, I'm gonna quit band. I'm gonna play football. And they're like, oh, you can do both now. You can do both. So he actually was instrumental in22:51 the policy getting changed to the school.22:52 Oh, good. Peace.Show more In this video 0:00 Raising Children in Faith
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