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Revelation of Evil in Turbulent Times 0:02 We wanna honor God because he sees everything.0:10 You were born with a plan and a purpose. He's the god of all things possible. He's the god of all0:22 miracles.0:54 Welcome to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle and Michelle Humphreys.0:57 And I am Naina Keegan. Welcome to our broadcast. We are here filming live at NRV in Nashville, Tennessee. It is the largest gathering of Christian communicators in the world, and we have1:09 a very special guest. We a dear friend of ours. We love love this1:13 girl, Michelle. We love her.1:15 She is so anointed. She is Christian royalty. Yeah. She has her own show, Kelly, and will you welcome Kelly Copeland? Commander.1:26 Commander Emerald. Wow. Commander. What every woman wants to hear.1:31 Commander Kelly, we love you and I I always say this, you know, you you minister to me so much. I I just I you know, there's people that you relate to when they preach or talk, and1:43 and it's you do that for me, and I love everything that you talk about. Her heart for the Lord is just so amazing and so deep. So what do you got going on? What does the Lord say into you these1:55 days?1:55 You know, there's such turmoil right now. It's so easy to get be mindful of that. And, of course, it's in the world. I mean, there's things being revealed. Even today, probably, we don't even know what's2:07 going on because we haven't watched the news today to see what's been revealed about, you know, this thing or that thing. And I don't wanna even give credence to mentioning the things to go2:17 look at.2:18 It's horrible. But2:21 It's grievous. It's grievous. It's just2:24 And yet, who's on the backside of revealing that stuff? Yeah. It's not the devil. I mean it's the devil that was perpetrating, but God reveals. And the revelation2:36 of these things, like even some of the the, horrific, traumatic, essay things that are happening, and that you're seeing that2:48 people have been the trafficking that people have been living there, it's been so vile. It's been hidden. And now it's not. And it's traumatic when those things come3:00 up. It's disturbing when you see what's been happening. But it was always happening. Yes.3:06 It's such a a level that you can't wrap your mind on. And and yet, he does promise the Lord promises everything that is yet will be revealed.3:17 And we have to be there for that. Like, the the trauma of listening, even I've been hearing people talk about they've been listening to things, recordings and evidence of files and stuff that have been3:28 released, and I'm hearing these people go, I will never be the same. I can't unhear that. I I can't. And it's devastating. They think they're just gonna go watch something and it's beyond beyond anything they could3:40 imagine, so now they're changed. Wow. At the evil that they've seen. And yet, and it can become so hurtful. Victimized can be revictimized by hearing some of those things.3:52 And yet, it was always there. When we didn't know about it, it was there. And God revealing it, it can feel like, oh this is a terrible time. Why God4:04 is this happening? Why is this happening to me? They can have things come up from our past, and feel like asking God, why is this happening to me? Why am I going through this? You4:16 just have to sit back and say, thank you, Lord. This is hard. It's okay to say, God, this is hard. Jesus, this is hard that I'm seeing this about myself. That I'm seeing this4:28 about my past. It's hard for me to watch or hear about what's happening in our nation or in the world. This is trauma time. I'm disturbed. I'm worried. Whatever. Yet,4:40 He has to reveal it to heal it. And I think it's gonna take a determination on our hearts, on ourselves, to say, okay, Lord. I'm gonna walk through this,4:52 but I'm gonna walk through it with You. And instead of keeping our eyes on this out here, we have to keep our eyes on Him. Right.5:00 Like it says, keep your eyes fixed on Jesus, the author and the finisher of our faith. And it even says I I I would warn people about drilling5:12 down into those files because the Bible says not to focus on that. It says No. Do not even speak of what the evil do in private. You know, so5:23 we have to guard our own hearts We do. From that5:33 faith. And and there are people that God has called to Yes. Do that. Down. Right. And you have to keep I was talking about I was talking to Troy Brewer yesterday, who's like5:45 all up in all5:46 of this.5:46 Yes. Deliver getting people free and rescuing them. And he he testifies at trials and stuff like that, so he hears those things. He's had years of hearing those things. He5:58 said you cannot get you cannot be impressed with evil. And there's a lot of things that if people are gonna get involved in that, there's certain things even like having their6:10 hormones checked. I have no idea they have to have their testosterone checked to be involved in some6:15 of the Wow.6:15 It can't be6:16 too high.6:16 It can't be too low. Really? I mean, but it I don't but that's a secret. I don't know if it's a secret, but I never knew. But I've never I've never heard that. God has don't get in the middle of all that if he hasn't,6:26 like, really part of it's not a don't do it unless he's called you6:31 to be part of rescue balance.6:33 When we think about the kingdom of heaven is always advancing. Right? And we don't you know, the kingdom the the world doesn't happen to us. Yeah.6:45 As Christians, we happen to the world. And so we're you know, no matter what's happening, it's not like god didn't know6:52 about it, but god's gonna do something about it.6:55 And so this has to be god's perfect timing Yeah. Because it is out. He's cleaning. He's cleaning out. And so when we see these things, we're to pray, to stand,7:07 and to ask god for justice, and to to be the vindicator and the redeemer of these victims and all of these things that have gone on because that's, I7:19 believe, you know, as for such a time as this, intercessors, right, to be praying about all of this because he he's not surprised by that. That's what I always have to go back to. He knew about that, and7:31 yet we have to go back to the fact that he loves those people. They're created in the image of God. Right? And so it's it's just, you know, it's it's it's mind7:43 altering, I think, in so many ways. Like but we have to remember the mind of Christ. The mind of Christ.7:49 And if I could just encourage us in a whole different way as well, because you're right. But if we will take that curiosity that makes us stick on YouTube and8:01 go down every rabbit hole about what everything else is happening out here. If we could take that and turn it, and allow that Lord to put a curiosity in our own heart about what's going on in8:12 us. Oh, that's good. Because here's the thing. You may not be a victim of trauma, or you may be and not even realize it. You may not be a victim8:24 of the kind of thing we call trauma, but you, we are all victims of Satan.8:29 Yes.8:30 We have been, we've had had lies planted in our heart. We've talked about that before. And those things have been they call they create hurt. And that hurt people hurt people. Yes. And8:42 traumatize people traumatize other people. That's that's the only way that they know to, like, they're processing what happened to them, but it's not in the right way. But we all have stuff that8:53 we need to get before the Lord. And if we would take this moment in time, because if He's cleaning out the world, He's been we have to stop and think, He's probably been working on us for a while. BecauseGuarding Hearts and Self-Examination 9:05 He starts with the church. Amen. And if He starts with the church, it's not just getting this preacher out of the pulpit, or know, bringing down. There's a lot of bringing down preachers happening right now. Right. And I9:17 get it. That's not my job in their life. We don't hold that place. And there are people that God anoints to uncover things. Touchdown. That's Lord, I don't want9:29 that job. I don't want to in any way be the judger of the church. Yes. Or the sentencer. Yes. And there's a lot of people that are sentencing people who've fallen with a forever sentence.9:41 And I would stay clear of that as well. Yeah. I9:44 always do. He's the judge. Yes.9:46 And he's the 1 that wants to turn their life totally around.9:50 Yeah. Amen.9:51 And so it's not my it's not my job to fix it for them, no matter who they are. It's not my job to bring them down. Amen. And I'm not criticizing anybody that feels like it is. I'm just saying, there's a lot we need to do10:02 here.10:03 Exactly.10:03 And if we are doing all this out here, we're able to kinda forget what needs to happen in our outer heart.10:09 If we'll judge ourselves, he won't judge us. And I think, I mean, we know that Jesus is coming back for a glorious church without spot or wrinkle,10:21 and that means we're not drilling down into those choice morsels, as Proverbs calls them, where they they taste delicious at first, just like gossip10:33 does, but they are bitter once they're swallowed. So we have to guard our hearts Yes. Right now with all this evil that we're hearing about. I just think we10:45 are in a dangerous place, that we need to get before the Lord. And like you're saying, Kelly And10:51 just really let him be alive.10:53 Examine ourselves to make sure we're in our most holy faith. Well well, create10:57 in us a clean and contrite heart. You know, because even when we even if you're sharing that information or or or spreading these kinds of things and and and so that's where we have to11:09 just take it to the Lord and take it to the Lord because, you know, if you think about right now, you know, for such a time as this, then what are we called to do? Because what brings me is, you know, in11:21 the end, even the elect will be deceived. Many will fall away. That's gonna happen. And so we don't wanna be in the many or the elect will be the11:33 no. We want to keep ourselves so focused on Jesus. We all are having this great commission. We have this assignment so we can get Jesus back here. And so that's gotta11:45 be the focus. And the devil loves these distractions. Yes. This evil, these distractions, and people want justice. I'm 1 of them. That I want justice.11:56 Hundred percent. And all the children and the victims and the trauma. That they in no way do I can't lessen that for them. Yeah. And I but He can.12:08 Yes.12:08 And it's so funny how when you let the Lord heal something in you, and and it's for most people it's not something so, so huge. But it doesn't mean it didn't change you.12:20 Yes. Right.12:20 It doesn't mean when you were 18 and this thing happened or 2 or 3, that it didn't totally change how you process life or how you are with people. And those things can bring such curve.12:32 Satan is constantly planting comparison, performance, perfection. That is an everyday life, for us. And in the end, it steals our voice. In12:44 the end, we lay down our choices because we won't go forward with what God's calling us, because we don't feel, we feel like we're tarnished somehow. We're not good12:56 enough. And it's not, we don't realize it. It's all so inside. I saw such an example in the book of John. I have really just absorbed myself in the book of JohnHealing from Satan's Lies via Book of John 13:07 lately. And Such so timely. It's so timely. Like, Jesus said, this is Jesus talking. Jesus said, just as13:19 the serpent was on a pole, and if they looked at it, they would be healed. So it's time for the Son of Man to be lifted up. And if you believe, I mean basically, that's the blessing. If you believe on Him,13:32 then you'll have eternal life. The part of John 3 16 that hit me was that God chose that way to love the world. To just make Himself visible. Make13:44 His sun visible so you can look at Him. And even now, He's not here, here walking. Well, I can see, but He's here. And if I turn my attention to Him instead of all that,13:56 if if I ask Him what's wrong with me instead of letting someone else tell me, He can take us on a journey that brings us into our assignment, brings14:08 us into our power. Our ability to be healed from small things helps us to help someone heal from a big thing. Goosebumps. And, at the tail right now. You know, the devil's trick is14:19 clearly in John 3. Yes. Because he, John, I love this. This feels like the church right now. Jesus is doing some stuff we're not totally on the same page with. Like we're14:31 so concerned with what my ministry looks like, my church looks like, or what, you know, happening in my family, or what's happening in the news. Jesus is doing something over here,14:43 and we're we're our focus is off. So John the Baptist, it says he was baptizing. There was a little wa still a little water. The Passion says there's still a little14:55 water there, and it said, I mean, and there was an anointing people were there. Still a little water, few people were there. But Jesus is baptizing upriver15:07 more people than you, John. So somebody comes with this voice to John. It's like the greatest on the planet15:14 at that15:15 time, right? Yes. Right. It's John the Baptist. And I think this verse proves it. At that moment, he was so strong. And what he'd been preaching, he's coming, he's coming, he's coming. Like, he had just 1 day he's like,15:27 look. Here.15:29 Alright. I mean, I would be like, oh my gosh, I'm right.15:32 Here he is. And then he gets to baptize. He's here.15:35 And then and so John the Baptist says, or they say to him, he's baptizing more people than you. And this strife, this comparison, this perfection, this performance15:47 opportunity is presented at John and John's life. There's nothing16:00 mess whatever. I'm not the Messiah. I'm the messager. Yes. So he knew who Jesus was, so he knew who He was. And he goes, I'm not, I'm not, I'm the friend of the bridegroom. The bride belongs16:12 to Him. He knew who the bride belonged to, so that would be good for us to realize. Yes. Yes. You know, your congregation, your audience, even your family, the bride belongs to Him. And so,16:24 I love what He said. This is who He is. He said, My job is to stand nearby and to listen to His voice and His words. I, I'm not quoting16:35 it right, but His words give me joy. Like, that's where I find my peace. That's where I find my perfection, my completeness, my identity is in His words. And I think that's such a16:47 word to us not to let the the strife, the comparisons, so and so said this about you. So and so said this about you, so and so doesn't like you, that your boss doesn't like you, your16:59 husband, your children, they're mad at you. And just kinda tune all that out by tuning him in. Do you know what I I say often17:08 is people are gonna love you and people are gonna hate you and it's got nothing to do with you. And, you know, I think we serve an audience of 1. I I just don't care what anybody17:19 says, but as long as God's happy with me, I hope, you know, every day it depends on things known and unknown and ask him to show me the right way because we can't care. It's like that's the thing,17:31 especially if you have a platform where you're out there. People, of course, are gonna say something. And so we have to just go walk circumspectly, do all we know to do, and just trust God because it's got17:43 nothing to do with you. It's got nothing to do17:45 with us. That's the best news. And to some people, I think they hear that and they go, yeah. Yeah. But it's the not only is it the easiest thing to do, just put your eyes on Him and stay in conversation with Him.17:57 Let Him be the 1 that talks to you, tells you who you are. It's not only the it's the easiest thing to do, but also I think right now in the day we're in, it's how you don't fall away. But if youEnd Times Prep and Emerging Glorious Church 18:09 get so separate from the Lord in your mind, will, and emotions, I think God will still win people back, because He's still there with them. If you've got kids that have like, quote unquote fallen away, just forget18:21 that part of it and remember, Jesus is with them. Yeah. He's still talking.18:26 And He loves them and everything.18:26 He's still shepherding. He knows what they need. So just shut up trying to fix them. Yeah. And just love them. Right. And get your marching orders, your18:45 secret place. Yes. So important to have that time. Get in the word of God. Know it in your heart. Ask the holy spirit to write it on the tablet of your heart and18:57 wield it like a sword when you pray. Yeah. And I think that secret place is the answer. It is the only answer. Yes. And I love your book about the presence of God.19:07 Yeah. That's19:08 Oh, my goodness. I know. You gotta get the book. You know,19:12 but at the where do you think we are in in in times right now? I know everybody's got their ideas. We never, of course, are gonna know, but what do you what do you think19:21 about that? I think there's a church emerging, but it's a pea it's a the church as the group of us, like we're emerging. So, I'm not as mindful right now of the19:32 church emerging, but as I'm emerging in Him as more 1, more identified in Him than I've ever been. Amen. Because of what we talked about is what I've been doing.19:44 I had to, to survive. But now I see the church. I'm part of that. And then as we emerge individually, individually, stones, living stones,19:56 we are being merged into the cornerstone. Yes. And a building that's being built right now is being, the stones are being formed. We're being formed to be part of the temple that's coming forth, formed to be part of the20:08 temple that's coming forth. It's biblical. It's John 17. We're going to show up like that, and I think we're that's we're there. We're there there.20:18 That's what I Amen.20:19 We are there there. Haggai. Guy. Last week I was reading, and it was talking about how the that everything was shaking, but that the glory20:32 of the new house will be greater than the glory of the former house, and that's where we're headed realize who20:45 our real brothers and sisters in Christ are, and we will be20:48 that glorious church. That's so exciting. It's the most 1 of the generals in that church. That's exciting.20:50 It's the most exciting time. 1 of the generals20:53 in that church. I really believe that. He always warns us.20:55 I'm grateful20:56 for you.20:56 He tells us what we need to you know, just a week or so ago, in the middle of night, woke up. I woke up my husband because I heard so clearly, prepare, prepare, you know, for what's coming21:09 to to that but he was gonna shake everything and that he was going to you know, it was not good what was gonna happen to the wicked and all and that but that we would be okay,21:21 that he would give us a place of rest in the midst of it. And so but the next day I get up and I'm trying I was I wrote it all down that night. Next day I get up and I'm like, how do we prepare? What are21:33 you saying? Talk to me about this. And I got, like, Isaiah 31, it says it said, god is not gonna change his mind about what's gonna happen to the evil, but that he's gonna give us rest. Like, he kept giving me the21:45 scriptures that are gonna back this up, that that back up what he said. But I thought, okay. So what does preparation look like for all of us? It is it is know the word, the word, the word, the truth21:57 like never before. Do some do some things, maybe have some things on hand, you know, get yourself a little bit compared in other ways, but it's don't be deceived. It's stay in22:09 the word. Know how to fight with your sword against everything and anything that's going to become in our way as Christians and to be prepared. But he's going to take care of us. He's gonna give22:21 us rest and that's that's That is amazing. Yeah.22:24 And and the thing that I think I'm trying to say that connects with that is we need to let him take out every evil thing that connects to what he's destroying. Yes. So those thoughts, those22:36 traumas that are hidden, you know, even the things that we now know are wrong, some of those happen to probably most of the people in this room, honestly. Yes. Yes. You know, maybe people were raped and they never22:47 thought of it that way. You know, 30 years ago, it wasn't called that.22:51 Right. Right.22:52 Yeah. And I'm just saying, there's stuff in there. And letting the Lord remove the things that connect you to what's going down. If I could be so simple. Yes. And and that leaves us unshakable. If23:04 every part of us is so connected and healed by the Master. Amen. So we're saved. It's just Jesus. Then it's just adventuring. Yes. We're Indiana Jones now. You know? We can go anywhere.23:16 We are.23:16 We're in23:17 the end times. This is I really believe that. Team. Right?23:21 Right? I mean, you know, like, that's the thing. It's go time. Like, he's got us, you know, like, this is it's now. He trusted us enough to let us be here for what he needs23:33 us to do on the Earth. Right? He doesn't need you know you know what I mean. He doesn't need us for anything really, but he's he's called us and we say yes. That's the thing. It doesn't it doesn't have to be hard. Just23:45 just, you know, read the word, do what it says. Say yes when he tells you to do something. Even if it doesn't make any sense, because he'll he'll fill in the blanks as you go as you step out. Yeah. He doesn't give you a23:56 the whole picture on the puzzle box.23:58 And they mess it up. Yeah. You know? So that would24:02 Kelly, what is next for you? Like, what's the Lord putting on your heart?24:07 I really, I haven't done a lot of ministry, ministry, like going places very much. I've worked at Kenneth Copeland Ministries for the last 28 years. I still have a full time job there, and I24:19 don't see that ending. I, I mean, I have said yes to the Lord. So my dad has come off the road. I mean, he says that. We're not scheduling meetings, but I'm like, I'm pretty sure you're24:31 gonna get back out there somehow. But he said his heart is just to be available to the Lord. So he could go all over the place. It's not that. It's not he doesn't wanna go. But he's available.24:43 Do you know how many preachers would say, I can't do that. My ministry would fail. Right. I have to be out there. That is 1 of those things that you should say, why did I feel that way? That is idolatry.24:54 Yeah. True.24:55 And so to be available to the Lord, so I think I'll probably be ministering a little more. I know I'll be ministering more for KCM than I have been, and I don't know. I'm just ready for whatever that is.25:07 Uh-huh. My yes is confirmed with the Lord, And I'm excited about helping people just make it simple. It's so it really is simple. And it's25:19 all these dire things, if we fight those, if we focus on fighting that instead of allowing Him to clean us of the things that connect us, it's hard. But if we get with Him, like, even the25:31 hard things are still a walk with Him. Exactly. You know, we're like Peter, or the woman at the well. 1 little conversation can release your voice. 1 conversation can release you from25:43 old patterns that you built to protect yourself, and now that's outdated. You know, we're new people. Well. We're becoming new. And I'm excited for that, just for myself and my my family. Exactly.25:54 They are wrapping us up here. Thank you for saying yes to the Lord, and tell everybody how they can find you.26:02 Kelly coblin dot com is, my website, and, just love to connect with you. And the show, Kelly, is on Victory, Network and other places like26:15 overcomers TV, which I appreciate. And I appreciate you girls and your boys. Y'all were on my show. Yes. 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