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A Testimony of Transformation: From Darkness to Light 0:02 We wanna honor God because He sees everything.0:10 You were born with a plan and a purpose. He's the god of all things possible. He's the god of all0:22 miracles.0:52 Welcome to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. I'm Michelle Humphreys.0:55 And I am Naina Keegan. Welcome to our broadcast today. Today, we have a very special guest. He just happens to be Michelle's brother, and I'm gonna let her introduce him. He is amazing. We love this1:07 guy.1:08 And he is amazing, and he has 1 of the best testimonies that I personally have ever witnessed. And, you know, the Bible says that whenever you1:20 become a Christian, behold, all things become new, and I have seen that with my brother. And we just wanted to share. He's been on the show before, but we wanna share with you1:32 his very radical testimony going from walking down the wrong path to radically being saved by Jesus. And so1:44 he is he comes from Austin, Texas. We grew up in Southwest Louisiana, and this is my 1 and only sibling, Craig Dunman.1:56 And we love you, Craig. And I'm telling you, you know, in all the years, almost 12 now, we're finishing our eleventh season, and we've had many, many, many guests and heard lots and lots of testimonies, but nothing like2:07 this 1 and, it's been a long time. I think you were on the first season. So, this needs to be heard again and told again because it is powerful and 1 of my favorites. So2:18 Craig Well Where do we start?2:21 Well, you were saying I was walking down the wrong path. I was running. I was running the wrong way, and and I'm so thankful that for the mercy of God because2:33 I am almost 100 percent sure that I would not be here today if if I would not have given my life to god to Jesus. What I2:45 experienced was very, very scary. You know? I I don't I haven't heard exact you know, testimony that's exactly like mine or even really kinda even close.2:57 But my experience was I had I was doing drugs. I did and I was addicted to things. And3:04 you at the time?3:05 I was, like, 18 Okay. 19.3:07 And you were just we we had a very, difficult childhood. Mhmm. It was not for the faint of heart Right. To say the least.3:19 Yeah. I was I was thinking, about this last week, about how we had all these people coming in and out of our house. Our our father was, benevolent, and we had people in our3:31 house, like, with strange names like Gordy and Buster. And 1 guy we just called Hitchhiker3:37 Or Yang.3:37 And he3:37 brought he brought his dog, cannabis. That's right. We had a crazy childhood. And Craig our our father died when Craig was 15, and he got3:49 very, very angry. And and he was running, like he said, down this path. So3:56 Yeah. And I didn't I didn't recognize that in myself because I was too immature to understand. But whenever we're younger, you know, we have this resilience. And, like, Jesus talks4:07 about the children, you know, and beholding the the face of the angels and and all that. There's a resilience that's in us, and God gave me, a lot of leeway, you know, because I4:19 had I mean, I had I was a happy kid, really, believe it or not, and there was a resilience to a lot of that. But after my dad died, it seemed like, I was running so4:31 hard against the you know, kicking against the goads or whatever. I didn't even I didn't really believe in God. I mean, I I I had the thought in my mind the seeds were4:43 there, but I didn't really believe in God at that time. And,4:47 He wasn't Lord. Because I know Michelle was saved at 7.4:50 Yeah.4:51 And and, you know, you can you can know of God.4:53 Sweet. Yeah. Yeah.4:54 But is he Lord? He's not your Lord yet. You were just No.4:58 But we didn't really know. Like, I got saved at 7, but I didn't know anything about God. Mhmm. Like, we moved away from the people that led me to the Lord, so I didn't know how to get that to Craig. Or5:09 Right. We just brought5:11 her for sure. She she used to drive me crazy with with I mean, what it was beautiful now looking back. I mean, you were relentless. And, and but it was so sweet. And5:23 and 1 thing about Michelle, I know everybody doesn't have her know her background, but she's always been a sweetheart, and she always loved her brother, and she's always trying to get me saved5:35 before I was before I was ready. You know? So it was a little irritating, but, you know, back looking back, it's beautiful.5:43 Same Michelle. Right?5:44 She's still doing it, and I'm and that's why I'm so proud of her. But we we go back to, the resilience that God had given me. I was I was a happy kid for the5:56 most part.5:57 Okay.5:58 But whenever my after my dad died, there was something, like, set in. There were seeds that were planted when I was younger, but they didn't really take any root because they I was resilient. You know? God's spirit was6:09 with me, just the the the innocence of a kid or whatever you wanna call it. But after my dad died, there was a that seeds kinda hit, and I started feeling really angry,6:21 and and I had a bitterness in me. I didn't really even know what was going on, but it took me down the wrong path. I started doing drugs and and drinking and, you know,6:33 all the things that the world tells you, you know, it was fun.6:37 Try to numb yourself and what was going on. Right.6:40 And I thought I was having fun, but, 1 day I woke up. I was in the middle of doing doing some lots of drugs, you know, mixing them and all6:51 things like that. And all of a sudden, I realized I just, like I felt something just change in me. I don't know if it was it was gradual over, like, an hour or something or7:03 whatever, but but through my, through my running the wrong direction, I was numb. I had this emptiness in me that I thought was kinda cool. You know? I I felt7:15 strong or, like I didn't my heart wasn't so, tender anymore. And I liked that though at the time, but whenever God7:27 revealed to me in this moment His truth, it was like His truth came. It's like in Romans where it talks about the commandment and the, sin revived and then7:39 I died. So I was apart from the law or from from God's truth, I was alive. But in this moment, God revealed to me truth, and it it killed me. It really7:51 my spirit just went it just died. And all of a sudden, I I was like a I was like a zombie, really. I was like a walking I was alive physically, but spiritually, I felt death, and it8:03 was it was terrifying.8:05 Like a near death experience. Like Yeah.8:07 I mean, I actually thought I died, really.8:10 Can you, just hold that thought 1 minute? We are gonna take a quick break, and we're coming right back. You are watching Grace Grace with Naina and Michelle and our exciting guest, Craig Dunman. Stay right there. You're8:21 not gonna wanna miss this.8:22 Hello, everyone. I'm excited to announce the next generation of energy drinks, Rev 7. It has no sugar and no caffeine. Instead, Rev 7 uses go BHB.8:34 Go BHB is 1 of the body's primary ketones, ketones, and it provides the most efficient and clean fuel that your body needs. It also helps you stay energized all day with no crashes.8:47 Not only that, it produces 3 times more brain energy than sugar, which helps boost your memory, focus, and mental sharpness. It also helps reduce stress and helps balance your mood.8:58 Rev 7 does all that while being the best tasting energy drink ever. So go to my pillow dot com or call the number on your screen. Use your promo code to save 20 percent today. I'm so sure you're9:10 gonna love Rev 7. For a limited time, you get our introductory 3 pack absolutely free. I drink Rev 7 every day, and I absolutely love it, and so will you.9:22 Welcome back to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. We're here with my brother, Craig Dunman, and he is gonna talk about his what he felt like was a near death9:34 experience and a time when you actually felt like you were going to go to hell. Tell us about that.9:43 Like, you had visions of that and, like, what happened to you in that?9:47 Yes. In that moment, whenever whenever my spirit of what I felt like I was dead already, I was, you know, looking in the mirror, I felt like I'd reversed switched places with the dead image in the mirror. It9:59 was there was a lot of things going on. I saw, my mother at my funeral, you know, all of all kinds of things that, anything that would signify an end was running10:11 through my head, like like a train going real fast and then stop, and a record going fast, making noise, and then you know, so there was a lot of weird stuff like that that happened, but, I10:23 could feel the enemy or Satan tell him in my mind, in my spirit, there was no voices or anything like that, that I was his, and and he made a very convincing10:35 argument. It was perfect. His prosecution of me was dead on, and, I had10:42 What did he say, for instance?10:44 It was just there was no speaking. It was images, and basically my the when God's light hit hit my heart, it it shined all the way back into my past10:56 and lit up everything that I'd never seen before that was evil, but it lit up that evil became evil, you know, and so I saw everything in the light. And11:08 and all of those things, the enemy convicted me of. It was just all, like, so fast that you I couldn't there was no words, though.11:17 So did you feel like it was like your life was flashing before your eyes or just that you were Did11:22 you hear about that? Accused When people are about to die.11:25 By the liar. Mhmm. The evil 1.11:28 Yeah. And I I could actually hear there was so much stuff going on. It sounds bizarre. I could hear people in hell, and, like, it's like God pulled took me11:40 over. I don't know if it actually happened or if it was in my mind, but in my spirit, this was all real. I could feel the heat from hell, and I could hear all of the, like, multitudes11:51 of of groaning, and it was just so11:56 But did you know anything about hell?11:59 No. I knew I knew at this point that it was real, and I didn't wanna go. There was nothing in my whole life that was ever as real as this moment, really. It was so vivid and12:11 so, surreal, that it it leaves no doubt in my mind that God gave me a vision of what where I I should have been going if it wasn't12:23 for him.12:24 So you think at this point, and you're terrified, that you're about to join these groaning people?12:32 You can feel the heat. Like, you know, if you think about what the people who have near death experiences are almost dead, or it's like the last thing that people who have gone to heaven even, and they see everything,12:42 and they, you know like, so you were experiencing this, the heat, the with the the the noises, the sounds of hell. And so were you thinking that you were dead at this point? Like, is that what you12:54 thought?12:55 I didn't I didn't feel like I would be able to come back from this. No. I definitely felt like I mean, I didn't know whether I was gonna stop I don't whether I was gonna stop breathing and I was gonna be13:07 dead or I really kind of I felt like I was already dead. I thought that this was like a I was like a image or a not not a ghost, but Yeah. It I13:18 didn't feel alive at all.13:20 Was anyone there with you?13:22 Just me. And so I'm like I started, you know, calling out to God because, you know, I promise you, everybody that's atheist or thinks that you don't need God,13:34 1 day you're gonna realize that God is real, and you sure surely don't wanna go to hell. I've had a a small taste, and it's the most it's the13:46 scariest thing that I've ever experienced. And I like to consider myself, you know, a tough guy. But, you we can't be tough in in the face of this. I promise you. And13:58 everybody everybody that faces what I faced, and they will, will will become religious real quick. But let's we don't wanna you don't wanna risk that. We don't I don't know how that works. I don't14:09 wanna play you don't wanna play around with God, you know, because something could happen instantly Yes. And you might not get a second chance. You know? We we wanna definitely give our lives and our hearts to Jesus14:22 as quickly as possible.14:24 Because everyone's gonna give an account. Everyone. Right. Everyone is going to give an account.14:29 And so you're going through this whole experience. What turned it around for you? Like, what happened next?14:38 I was I I grabbed the Bible, and I was trying to read the Bible, and I couldn't even read. It looked like hieroglyphics or something. It just looked like images on on a page. So,14:50 I turned on the, on the, TV, and there was this, like, Superbook something on. I don't even know what it was, but the timing was perfect. Yeah. Yeah.15:00 And I15:01 mean, it was this was very, very pitiful. This I'm not proud of the state that I was in, but, so I'm sitting there in front of this TV, and I'm, like, crying15:12 and and calling out on the name of Jesus because my grandmother and you and every, you know, all the people that love me, I always say, if you wanna hear from God, you listen to people that love you.15:24 It's a fact.15:25 That those seeds were there, and I started calling on the name of Jesus. And, as I was sitting there watching that cartoon, crying out to Jesus and to God,15:37 I felt like a warm oil, like oil from the top of my head, and it just it came right back down, and life came back into me just like that. I felt it go all the way down15:49 to my toes. It was my that lamp that I that we take for granted, life, you know, like John talks about, he was the light of men. I didn't know that until that until that16:01 candle went out. That was just, I mean, beyond terrifying. But whenever that came back, that his life came back into me.16:11 So when you were calling out for God and you were, like, kind of hovering over, like, the pit or hell, feeling the heat, hearing or, you know, hearing the moans. So when you called out to did you feel, like, a16:23 lifting out of that? Like, were you, like, pulled up and out, or was there anything like that?16:29 In my mind, the, I was rotating. I was out, like, in oblivion spiritually. Like, I was dead right there in that moment, but in my mind, I was out in16:40 oblivion, like, in space, like, slowly turning, like, with no gravity.16:46 Bible talks about outer darkness.16:49 Right.16:49 Outer darkness. And I was going away from, everything, just floating out into oblivion, and, and I saw a I was holding17:02 on to the world. Doesn't even make sense, but just giving you the story. I'm holding on to the world. I'm hanging off like there's gravity pulling me away from the world, and and, and I17:14 didn't want to let go because I'm thinking I'm going to Keep going. Yeah. We're gonna go after this, but I heard a whisper. I heard a a God's voice in my ear to let go.17:25 Hold that thought right there. This is good. Stay right there. We are gonna come back with Craig Dunman and this amazing story of being rescued literally from the pit. We'll be right back.17:36 Hello, everyone. I'm excited to announce the next generation of energy drinks, Rev 7. It has no sugar and no caffeine. Instead, Rev 7 uses go BHB.17:49 Go BHB is 1 of the body's primary ketones, and it provides the most efficient and clean fuel that your body needs. It also helps you stay energized all day with no crashes.18:00 Not only that, it produces 3 times more brain energy than sugar, which helps boost your memory, focus, and mental sharpness. It also helps reduce stress and helps balance your mood.18:12 Rev 7 does all that while being the best tasting energy drink ever. So go to my pillow dot com or call the number on your screen. Use your promo code to save 20 percent today. I'm so18:24 sure you're gonna love Rev 7. For a limited time, you get our introductory 3 pack absolutely free. I drink Rev 7 every day, and I absolutely love it, and so will you.18:36 Welcome back to Grace Grace with Naina Michelle. We are here with my brother, Craig Dunman, and he's talking to us about his amazing testimony. Now, Craig, here you were. You felt like you18:48 were going out into outer darkness, holding on to the world, and you felt like if you let go, you might drop into hell. What happened next?18:58 God whispered in my ear to let go. And this all happened simultaneously with what I was experiencing with the TV and the and19:10 and all of that with when I was watching that cartoon, it was all happening at the same time.19:17 So so you said God told you to let go. Now how at that point did you know that was God? I knew it. You see? I know it. I knew it.19:25 Like like the Bible says,19:27 my sheep know my voice. Amen.19:29 And I wasn't really a sheep, but he knew I was gonna be.19:33 You became his sheep. Yeah. I bet. You know, because think about the situation he's in, and I know people would wanna know that. Like, you know, how do you know? You're hovering over hell. That that isn't the devil.19:43 Right? So so see, you know, and I love that. I love that19:47 that you19:47 know the voice.19:48 After that?19:49 So whenever I let go, the the world just, like, started or the image of the world, whatever I was hanging on to just exploded, and, and I kind of floated backwards.20:02 But then I just was engulfed in perfect peace perfect peace.20:07 Wow.20:08 And and that's at the same time that when the life came back into my body. So20:15 And and I will say, like, knowing him before and knowing him after, night and day. I haven't seen anyone.20:27 It says you will be transformed, and he has been. And he has lived it out, and God has just taken you from glory to glory.20:36 He's been so faithful. What a beautiful thing. There's no 1 like our God.20:42 There isn't. And I remember Patsy Kavanaugh who used to pray for us when we were children. I talked to her as an adult, and she was in ministry. And when I told her that20:54 you had gotten saved, that dad had gotten saved before he died, mom was saved, and and that I was in ministry, she went, you're in ministry? Like, she's shocked. Shocking off. Shocking off21:06 for both of us because, you know, I think it goes back to praying grandparents because our grandparents got saved when they were older, and then they started praying for everybody. And so Craig and I were21:18 kind of 2 of the first saved in the family.21:21 What would any of us do without praying grandparents? I mean, you too. But if you think about it, I mean, isn't that how it is though? Because look who Jesus hung out with. Like, who is anybody before we met the Lord.21:31 Right? Right. And so, you know, if Jesus hung you know, I always I always say he hung out with the JV team. He didn't it wasn't the first round draft picks. Right? And so, like, that's how it is because he can use21:43 anybody and, you know, your testimony is so incredible because people, you know, who think, you know, they're in religions even and think they're just good21:55 people.21:56 Yeah. And21:56 yet and yet they're like, like the Pharisees. They thought they were good, and they were, you know, all moral, and but they didn't it wasn't about Jesus.22:05 There's no formula that we can figure out that will get us to heaven. Mhmm. It's it's a relationship. It's his spirit lighting up our darkness and our and our path, and and,22:17 he is light, you know. It's and that's not just it's not a metaphor, not just a metaphor. Everything about him is light. When he comes into our life, he lights up our path, he lights up22:29 our understanding, he he he runs the darkness away, you know. Going back to to whenever this all happened, I I didn't complete this 122:41 little part. It did really feel like God put his cloak over me. You know, it's like like just a like a cold, rainy day, and you're22:53 I'm just a little kid, and it's like my father to put his nice, warm22:58 Oh, wow.22:59 Over me. That's beautiful.23:00 It was just so peaceful, and I knew it was impossible for anything bad to get to me at that moment. I was so at peace and at home.23:12 And so were you completely delivered from the drugs and those things after that?23:16 Yes. Wow. Yeah. I mean, I I went back a little bit back and forth, but but, no, I could never never it didn't have that hold on me anymore. It was completely different.23:28 And for those who don't say they they believe this life, that's all there is. Mhmm. There's no heaven. There's no hell. What would you say to them?23:38 I I promise you it's real, and and and we definitely don't wanna go to hell. You take my word for it.23:51 It's real, and and and god is on the other side of that, yes, evil and hell and all that ugliness is real, But on the other side of that, I've also tasted and seen24:02 that the Lord is good, and it's not he's not just good. It's an, it's a beautiful beaut he's a beautiful, loving father, and24:15 and he's been so patient with me throughout my whole life. He's never failed me whatsoever. I've failed him plenty of times, but he has never failed me. And I'm I24:27 I can tell everybody listening, he will never fail 1 person.24:32 So how24:32 can they be saved? Someone who doesn't know the Lord, what can they do right now to ensure they're not gonna go to hell? Exactly. They're gonna go to heaven?24:42 I would immediately just say start calling out to God and say or you can just start reading and seeking. I would I wouldn't even I wouldn't take a lot of time making this24:53 decision. I would do it right away. There is no there is no tomorrow because, God is so good. God is so good. Why not call out to him right now25:05 and and and invite him into your life? I if you could feel him knocking, and and, I felt God knock before before I got saved, and I ignored it.25:17 And as a matter of fact, like a few times I was in church, and God and I could feel this you know, he was calling me. I could feel something. I wasn't necessarily sure it was him, but now looking back, it25:29 definitely was. And I and and I resisted. I mean, I resisted as hard as I could because I felt like if I if if I gave in to that, that I was gonna feel weak25:42 or, undone. But but whenever God breaks us, it's a beautiful thing. Amen. Because when he25:49 We have just about a quick 20 seconds. You wanna you wanna just pray real quick for our viewers?25:55 Lord, father, Lord, thank you for all of the people out there listening, Lord. Thank you for your children, Lord. Thank you for all that you do, Lord, for for humanity, God. Thank you for your26:07 extended hand, Lord. I pray that you would knock on hearts today, Lord, and and let them invite you in, Master. Let you let you rule their lives, God, and and save26:19 them, Lord. And we just rebuke the enemy to tell them, no, this is silly or this is that or whatever whatever is your the enemy is trying to tell you, just accept what God is26:30 trying to do and invite him into your heart, and you will never be sorry. You would that it's the most beautiful experience you'll ever experience. In Jesus's name, God,26:42 we just invite you into our hearts, Lord, for all eternity. We rebuke the enemy. We're gonna be different from this moment forward. In Jesus' name, amen.26:53 Amen. Thank you for joining us, brother. Love you, man. Thank you. Great testimony. God bless you.27:00 Why do atheists care so much about Christians anyway? Well, they tell you this. Religion is bad. It's the cause of most wars. But again, evidence shows differently. It shows27:12 that out of 1763 documented wars, only 123 were due to religion. That's between 6 and 7 percent. When you take out Islam, that only leaves 327:23 percent of all wars that could be attributed to religion.27:31 Does science disprove God? Is there a war between science and faith?27:36 We don't need God to create a universe. There's no evidence for God and it's irrational.27:40 Is there no evidence for God?27:42 Am I delusional for my beliefs?27:44 It is delusional and stupid.27:45 Am I brainwashed? Do I ignore reason?Show more In this video 0:00 A Testimony of Transformation: From Darkness to Light
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