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June 4, 2025 · 59 min
When will the Messiah arrive to set up His Kingdom and what will His rule look like? Find out with Dr. Nathan Jones on Happy Hour With Dr. Tenpenny!
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0:00 Well, hello everyone. My name is Doctor. Sherry Tenpenny and I want to extend a warm welcome to everyone who's joining us here for Happy Hour with Doctor. T. Tuesday, as you mostly know by now, is guest day on Happy Hour0:11 where we invite special guests including Christian authors, Christian businessmen and women, and pastors to join us to talk about their latest books, share their wisdom, and to lead us in prayer. All of our podcasts now0:23 are aired daily at 11 AM, Monday through Friday, and we post daily on Substack, a little piece for you to read every day on d r 10 penny dot substack dot com. Our happy hour with doctor t is always0:35 at 11 AM on Tuesday. We hope by now that you've joined us to become a new Tenpenny Prime member. The membership for is really what keeps us going and keeps us being able to provide all that great content to you.0:47 I write a topical white paper, record a presentation, and have a special live event every month for our Tempenny Prime members. If you are a member, thank you so much. We are most grateful for your support.0:59 If you want to become a member, go to shop 10 penny dot net, hover over the membership tab at shop 10 penny dot net, and you can become part of our Tenpenny Pride team. We've made a big1:10 effort to make 20 25 the year of knowledge, empowerment, action. Thank you so much for your support. So, before I introduce you today's special guest, Doctor Nathan Jones, the author of1:22 many books but his most recent book, The Coming Millennial Kingdom, Exploring the Thousand Year Reign of Jesus Christ on Earth. We're gonna take a really quick break. I've read about half of this book so far. It's1:34 extremely interesting. You'll really look forward to this conversation. You won't wanna miss it. We'll be right back.
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2:57 Well, back everyone. Doctor Nathan Jones is a seasoned media missionary and an author and the host of Christ in prophecy, the worldwide broadcast from lamb and lion
3:08 ministries with more than 25 years of ministry experience. Nathan has become a powerful voice in digital evangelism, helping people around the globe understand God's word and
3:20 recognize the signs of the times. Nathan holds a bachelor's in bible from Carne University, a master's in management and leadership from the Liberty University, and a doctor in religious studies
3:32 in evangelical apologetics. I always stumble over that word. A a doctorate in religious studies in evangelical apologetics from Trinity College. He combines biblical
3:44 depth with communication skills, making prophecy practical and faith accessible. The director in of Internet outreach, Nathan oversees a dynamic digital presence
3:56 that spans television, radio, podcasts, video prophecies, blogging, and social media. He's busy. His vision is to make Christ known in bible
4:08 prophecy understood clearly, creatively, and globally. Nathan, thank you so much for joining us here this morning with Happy Hour with Doctor. T.
4:17 It's a real honor, Doctor. Tenpenny. I've just been excited to hear that I'd be on your program, and thank you so much for inviting me.
4:24 That's great. Well, you you are a co host on the television program Christ in Ministry with Doctor. David Regan. Is it Regan? I guess it's Regan or Regan.
4:34 Christ in Prophecy. Doctor. David Regan was our founder. He's since retired, and now our new director is Tim Moore. So, we're both cohosts on the program.
4:42 Very good. And he said I guess I was quoting him because of what he wrote in your forward, in your book, where he said that Nathan has been gifted by
4:53 God to explain the difficult concepts of bible prophecy in down to earth understandable terms for the average person to understand. You know, prophecy is a complex topic, and it's highly subject
5:05 to interpretation. You hear lots of different takes on, you know, Ezekiel, Daniel, and Revelation. Is there a particular place that you start when you try to weave all of this together and start to
5:17 explain it?
5:19 Absolutely. Well, here at Lamb and Lion Ministries we go by the key, we could almost call it our motto. If the plain sense makes sense, look for no other sense lest you end up with nonsense.
5:31 We believe in taking a literal interpretation of the Bible, not as symbolic. We read the Bible for what it's saying. We accept symbols and literary devices as they're meant to be said because we believe that God is
5:42 trying to convey a message through the Bible. He's not trying to bury it in myth, and legend, and superstition. He wants us to understand His plan for the future. And that's why we're so excited at Lamb and Lion
5:53 Ministries to proclaim Jesus Christ's soon return because we believe the signs of the time show that it is imminent, that Jesus Christ is coming to rapture His Church up to Heaven, and eventually usher in
6:05 His 1000 year Kingdom that will then go on into eternity. So, that is our mission to proclaim the soon return of Jesus Christ.
6:12 Wow, that's good. You know, you have a doctor of religious studies in evangelical apologetics. What's evangelical apologetics?
6:21 Well, you maybe have noticed that a lot of apologetics people, people who are defenders of the faith, spend a lot of time debating other Christians about the Bible or defending Christianity
6:33 against atheists and agnostics and skeptics. But how do we use apologetics to reach people for Jesus Christ to lead them to be saved? And that really appealed to me when I applied to Trinity Seminary up in
6:45 Evansville, Indiana is that they had 1 where you can apply apologetics to sharing the Gospel. And that's something I've been doing here 18 years at Lamb and Lion Ministries is we use the apologetic of fulfilled Bible
6:57 prophecy to show people that the Bible is indeed the Word of God. And since it's the Word of God, we can trust it, we can put our faith in what it teaches, and what it teaches is is that Jesus Christ is the 1 and only
7:09 way to get to heaven. And when we put our faith and trust in Him, our sins are forgiven, and we inherit all the blessings of His coming Kingdom. And so that's why I wrote the book The Coming Millennial Kingdom. It
7:20 actually was my doctoral dissertation. And so thank goodness for great guys like Steve Miller, my editor at Harvest House Publishing, who could take a book at a doctoral level and bring it down for everybody to read.
7:32 And he was a great blessing in doing that. And so we wanted to share the message of Christ's coming kingdom. Doctor. T, you probably hear a lot of Bible prophecy always talking about antichrist and 1 world governments
7:42 and tribulations and and death and destruction and that's only a tiny little picture of the puzzle when it comes to prophecy. 31 percent of the Bible is Bible prophecy pointing to what? The coming
7:54 kingdom of Jesus Christ. That's the ultimate goal of Bible prophecy. And so that is what we wanted to teach here.
8:02 Well, I'm gonna circle back around to that for in just a minute, but I wanna I wanna go back to evangelical apologetics just because I think a lot of our listeners may not be familiar
8:14 with that word, apologetics. And what does that mean? And why was that word chosen for the job that it does?
8:23 Well, apologetics simply means defense of the faith, or particularly for Christianity the defense of the Christian faith. And so, when it comes to discussing our faith and sharing it with people there are
8:34 many ways to share. Particularly I think 1 of the greatest ways to share one's faith is to share one's testimony. How did I become saved? And that leads people to Jesus Christ. But sometimes you get people who are a lot
8:46 more academic, especially in the atheist realm, and to debate the finer symptoms or the finer points of Christianity, and that's where the apologist steps in. They come out and they defend. They're
8:58 not apologizing for the Bible, but for some reason that word is just kind of stuck. I like to call them defenders, And so they defend the faith. And sometimes when the apologetic circles, they
9:10 spend a lot of time defending the faith against other Christians. And so with evangelistic apologetics is how can we take the great love letter that God gave us, the Bible, and
9:22 how can we then share it with the unbeliever to lead them to know Jesus Christ as their savior?
9:27 Yeah, that's what I meant. Because whenever I've heard that word, and I have a friend here in in Cleveland where I live, Cleveland, Ohio, that is, he's a great studier that he speaks on
9:39 apologetics a lot. And every time he says the word, it's just it's a weird word because, again, it sounds like you're apologizing for your faith, and that's not what it means at all.
9:51 And that's why I wanted you to expound on that a little bit.
9:53 Yeah. Christians have nothing to apologize for. We have the truth, as John 14 6 says. We have the way and we have the life, and that's Jesus Christ. And only through Jesus Christ can the wrath of God be satiated, John 3
10:05 36, so that we can have eternal life with Him. And part of that eternal life is to be part or citizens of the Kingdom of Christ, the coming millennial kingdom that will then go on into the eternal
10:17 state.
10:18 You know you already mentioned that the Bible is 31 percent prophecy. That is a staggering number when you think about it. A third of the Bible is about prophecy.
10:31 How was that analyzed and how did that number come about to be able to make that stake, that claim?
10:39 Well, 18 17 verses are prophetic in nature. And when you compare that to the overall verse number what you get is about 25 to 30 percent. So there is a
10:51 wiggle room of a few percents here or there as you interpret certain passages. For instance say Psalm 83, is that prophetic or is that imprecatory? And so how you interpret it is that few
11:03 points, but I believe the Bible is either a quarter to 31 percent prophetic in nature. In other words God wants us to know how the future is going to end with Him being victorious
11:15 and His children being victorious through Him. You know all the other religions out there have religious books, the Upanishads, the Vedas, the Quran, the Book of Mormon, all that, none
11:27 of them have Bible prophecy, particularly specific very complicated prophecies, not some general thing that something might happen in the future but sometimes even down to days and
11:38 hours. So, it's very impressive and I think that all these fulfilled Bible prophecies especially fulfilled in the life of Jesus Christ proves that he's the Messiah.
11:48 You know, in your new book that's coming out, The Coming Millennial Kingdom, you say that the reason for that governments fail is they don't understand the primary reason that God instituted government. So
12:00 explain that a little bit.
12:02 Well, I start the book by looking at what World Atlas defines as the greatest 8, you could say empires or nations, the ones that really changed human history. And it was my surprise, it
12:14 ended up being the Akkadian, the Persian, or Achaemenid, the Roman, the Mongol which surprised me, the Ottoman, the British, the Russian, or Soviet, and the United States. And they're all
12:26 great incredible empires that have done so much, but they've failed at the primary reason for why human government exists. Human government exists to bring true security and justice for
12:37 its people. And what do we get? We get Micah seven:three, The prince asks for gifts, the judge seeks a bribe, and the great man utters his evil desire, and so they scheme together. You know,
12:49 Doctor. T. S. Doge is uncovering more and more corruption in the United States, up to trillions of dollars being funneled into people's pockets. Micah seven:three is right there. Even the United States, which
13:01 was founded on Judeo Christian values, has fallen into tremendous corruption. And so the question I lead with is unapologetic. It's called the problem of evil as it relates to failed human government.
13:13 How is mankind looking at government that's been ordained by God completely fail us? How can we maintain our trust and faith in Him? And so that's the problem of evil that this article
13:25 addresses or this book addresses. And the answer to that actually can be found in Daniel chapter 2 where King Nebuchadnezzar is given this vision and Daniel interprets it and it's this great
13:37 statue which represents what's called the time of the Gentiles from Israel's fall until Jesus Christ returns and it goes through a successive group of empires until finally what Nebuchadnezzar saw
13:49 was this stone which he said is not cut out by human hands and it comes careening out of the sky and it hits that statue and blows it up and the dust blows away and that stone grows and becomes a mountain and
14:00 fills the earth. And that was a prophecy about the coming Messiah's kingdom. It's called the Davidic Kingdom or the Millennial Kingdom or the Kingdom of Christ. In other words, failed
14:12 flawed human government will end. We will finally be free of all its corruption and vices when Jesus Christ returns to set up his kingdom.
14:21 Wow. Well, you know, you say you also say you know, you say in the book that there there is a new empire rising without a firm belief in
14:32 inalienable rights, the foundation of religious freedom and the freedom of speech. So where is the with the in the US, this new empire that's rising within the US. We've seen it
14:44 for years. We've seen the woke things that have happened. You know, the transhumanism, the transgenderism, the the genetic modification, the gene editing tools that have been injected into, you
14:56 know, 75 percent of the population or more. I mean, where is all of this heading for the United States?
15:04 Doctor. T, I think of anybody who knows about this global empire that's being built behind the scenes is you. You've been battling it for years. You've been canceled by them for years. We saw the
15:16 entire world seem work towards canceling Donald Trump after his first term. And so what it is is growing up behind the scenes and has always been there is you have to go all the way back to
15:28 prehistory when the Lord created the angelic realm. And Satan, was known as Lucifer at the time, was the guardian cherub over the throne of God. The Bible says he was the worship leader in
15:40 the congregation of the most holy, but he started wishing and desiring for the angels to worship him instead. And so the Bible says pride got in his heart. He led a third of them to rebel against
15:51 God, but they were cast down to the earth. Not being able to take heaven, Satan then has made his mission to get as many of thus made in God's image, the humanity, to worship Him instead. So
16:03 eventually that the entire world would worship Him. So all throughout the last 6000 years or so of human history Satan has been working behind the scenes, as Ephesians tells us, to build his global empire.
16:15 We're finally getting into the last stages because we have the technology and the means to start building an empire through what we would say the United Nations and NATO and all these people who aren't really loyal
16:27 to their country, are loyal to a 1 world government, or behind that we know Satan. And the Bible tells us in Revelation that 1 day Satan will finally get his wish when he raises up a
16:39 man who the Bible calls Antichrist. He will be elevated to become the 1 world ruler. Satan will possess him. And then at least for the 3 and a half years of the Tribulation time period that is coming the world will
16:51 worship Satan. He will get exactly what he wants, but he won't get it for very long, only a few years.
16:56 Wow. You know, when you take current events and you put current events into prophecy, what are you seeing with that right now, melding those 2 things together?
17:09 Well, we have to I believe look at the big picture, the 30000 foot view that the Lord sees. You know, we kind of get bogged down in the the little battles we're in, of course, because we only have limited influence. But
17:19 when God writes prophecy, this is 1 of the really neat things about a lot of prophecies, they are called proleptic. In other words, they are written about future events but in the past tense. In other words, God who
17:31 is outside of time, for Him this stage of human history is already over. And so when He writes about the coming of His Kingdom, in many verses He writes it as if He has already accomplished it. Because
17:43 outside of human time He already has. And so when He gives us these prophecies He's telling us, Yes, we can be assured that evil will be defeated and good through Jesus Christ will rule and reign
17:55 because in God's eyes it's already happened. That's 1 of the exciting components of prophecy.
18:01 That is exciting when you put it together like that.
18:04 Oh, yeah.
18:05 We get so focused on the day to day and the miniscule things that sometimes we lose the 30000 foot view of what's happening. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry.
18:16 Well, just to add to that, if we align ourselves to the 30000 foot view that God has, it radically changes your life. The little things that we get tied down in, what the Bible says, what
18:28 you eat, what you drink, what you wear, know, the troubles of this world will come into focus when we have an eternal perspective and Bible prophecy gives us that. The lord meets us to have that so we can endure these
18:40 dark days with hope for the future.
18:44 That's really good because right now we need that kind of hope more than ever, know, because Absolutely. Get really dark. You know, when you see the things that are swirling around, you read the DARPA
18:56 documents and you know what they have planned out there for us to come. And with the they're they're planning another pandemic. They're planning what's going to happen next. And, you know, as a Christian, we should
19:08 we should care but not care. I mean, you should be maybe aware but not care. I mean, is that the right language? No.
19:16 I think you're right. I obviously, the Lord has us here as the church to be salt and light in this world, to hold back the tide of evil, to proclaim the good news of Jesus Christ and his return. That's our mission.
19:27 That's our purpose and you know, again, you're doing that so marvelously and and we here at Lamb and Lion Ministries are trying to do that as well but we know that ultimately at the end, skipping to
19:39 the end of this tribulation time period when Jesus returns with his saints, that's us and our glorified bodies, we don't engage in battle with this antichrist and his armies. We don't defeat Satan. We watch
19:51 Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone defeat these armies by just speaking. He's that powerful. The whole armies of the world will be assembled against Jesus in Armageddon, And all
20:03 the Lord does is speak, and they melt before him. The antichrist and false prophet are thrown into the the lake of fire. Satan is thrown into a deep pit. The armies of the evil
20:14 are cast to Hades or torments as the Bible calls waiting for their final judgment. And Jesus Christ then prepares to set up His kingdom for 1000 years. So yeah, there's a lot of tribulation that's coming up, at least
20:26 7 years plus the little t tribulations of our time period. But that big t tribulation like the flood was is God's pouring out his wrath on the earth for their sins. But as you know, when things get
20:38 really bad, Christians are formed from it. People bow a knee. They repent. They turn to Jesus Christ and ask Him to be their savior. And so we read the Revelation how
20:50 so many people from every tribe, tongue, and nation will come to know Jesus as their savior during the tribulation. Now many of them will be martyred for it, but Jesus said that He wouldn't return until the Jewish people
21:02 finally look upon Him whom they pierced and they cry out, Baruch Chabah B'Shem Adonai, blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. And when they cry out that, Jesus Christ returns to
21:13 rescue the Jewish remnant, those tribulation saints who have accepted Christ after the Rapture, and to then set up His kingdom on His earth. That stone not cut out by human hands defeats the
21:25 Gentile world powers as the Bible calls them, and then fills the earth with his glory.
21:30 You know, I read somewhere recently, in the last couple of weeks, and I'm not sure why why it was why this even came across my consciousness. But there wasn't maybe it was
21:42 because of the new things that they've discovered underneath the the great pyramids in in Giza. You know, the how deep they are and how big they are and the whole spire sort of thing. And then a lot of these underground
21:54 tunnels and things that they've begun to explore that really kinda change the timelines of things in in my opinion. Does I'm sure that you've looked into that in your programs and you've
22:06 talked about it. What is your perspective on those things?
22:10 I think that there's gonna be a have to be a lot more digging underneath those. What's it? The Pyramid of Caffrey to find out for sure exactly what's under there. Right now, we got some blurry images from satellites
22:22 that are going through. A lot of people in the Bible prophecy circles have been talking about it, especially Casper McLeod. If you've ever interviewed Casper McLeod, he's
22:31 He's a very good friend of mine. Yeah.
22:32 He's a dear, dear man, and, you know, he's really looked into it, we've discussed it on his program, Spiritual Encounters. But I'm not sure if it really, at least for me, changes the prophetic timeline. I think what it
22:44 proves is that the pre flood people weren't a bunch of cavemen eking out a living, scratching themselves and dragging their women by their hair. That's nonsense. These were hyper intelligent,
22:55 very old people who are if we're carbon copies of carbon copies of carbon copies, they're more the original copy. I believe they were a lot smarter than us, lot stronger, probably a lot bigger.
23:08 And so they had this ability to create all this technology that's been lost. And I think what they might find underneath those pyramids is some of that technology. So I think it totally upends the theory of evolution,
23:19 and there's many reasons why the theory of evolution is nonsense. But it proves that mankind isn't improving themselves. Although we've helped a little with technology, we're actually, what's the opposite of
23:30 unimproving? We're disproving, we're getting worse.
23:34 Backwards.
23:35 Yeah, it's like that movie Multiplicity, if you remember that with Michael Keaton years ago, where he created this machine that made carbon copies of himself. Every carbon copy was dumber than the last. And so, as a
23:47 doctor, you probably see that the genome in humanity seems to be degrading. And so the Lord needs to step in at some point and put an end to that. And I believe that we're at the last of the last days of the church age,
23:58 and we're ready to get the go through the tribulation, at least those who don't haven't accepted Christ as savior and the wrath of God is odd enough, and then into Christ's kingdom and reboot the human race, so to
24:10 speak.
24:11 Is you know, thinking about that timeline, and I guess that's where I had read this piece, where they somebody did an estimate that they've estimated that from the beginning of humanity, there's been about
24:22 35000000000 people on the planet over the course of if you wanna say 6 6000 or 10000 or 12000 years, you know, there I think there's a little bit of a debate on that, but it's
24:34 been a while. It's been a while since we've had that. And if there's been 35000000000 people in, let's say, 6000 years, why has the Lord tarried so long? Why has there been so much
24:45 birth, death, dying, destruction, war? I mean, when you read the the war scenes in the Old Testament and you see 30000 died on this day and 10000 died on another day, why do you think that
24:57 he's tarried so long to get to where we are now?
25:00 Oh, absolutely. You know, just in the last say 3500 years of recorded human experience, 92 percent of those years have been in armed conflict. War is with 1000 or more casualties. There's
25:12 37 countries technically at war, it's not just Russia and Ukraine throughout the world. And so mankind has only lived just about 200 and some years of all human history without warfare.
25:24 So, you are right. Warfare just dominates humanity and it's another failure of human government to end the warfare and the tragedy that comes with it. But we got to go back to Genesis and the Garden with Adam and
25:36 Eve and God. They had perfect fellowship with God. They walked and talked. They saw Him face to face. There was no sin separating them. But as soon as Adam and Eve rebelled against God sin broke fellowship
25:48 with God. So all of human history has been about God bringing redemption to mankind, particularly through the death and resurrection of His Son. And god reveals more and more of himself right now
25:59 in the church age. We have the Holy Spirit residing in Christians. We know about Jesus from his first coming but in the millennial kingdom, we will see the son face to face. We will see the Shekinah glory of god,
26:11 the Holy Spirit over the Millennial Temple. And then in the eternal state, we will finally see the Father again and have that perfect fellowship. All of human history goes back. But to answer your question is
26:23 that God doesn't want to fill heaven with robots. He wants to fill heaven with people who actually want to be with Him forever. So every generation is a harvest. And so there's still a harvest yet to
26:35 come. The children born of the tribulation saints will still get to choose Christ or not. And we read it 1 of the tragedies of the millennial kingdom even though there's no war for 1000 years. There's perfect peace that
26:47 when Satan's released at the end of that thousand years, again, the Lord gives them the choice. Choose me or choose your own wickedness. And they sadly many of them will choose their own wickedness. They'll side with
26:58 Satan in 1 last attempt. Try to overthrow the throne of God. There's no war in the millennial kingdom so the Lord just sends down fire and defeats His enemies. And that's how the millennial kingdom ends. So I kind of
27:10 skipped over all the good stuff and took you to the end, but I want you to see that in every era of human history the Lord has a crop, gathering, a choice that people make to choose Him or not. He
27:22 provides salvation through His Son's work on the cross. And so by the time we get to the eternal state all of human history has been 1 big harvest so that the Lord dwells forever with
27:33 people who truly desire, who choose Him. And so that's a big difference when Satan who wants to force everybody to worship Him. But the Lord, he he's as our our founder doctor Reagan says, he's a
27:45 gentleman. He doesn't force his salvation on anybody.
27:49 You know what? That's that's so good. And that's so true. You know, about each crop when you think about even from Moses, you know that they had to wander around until they all died off and then they started over again.
28:00 You know, it's setting the example of the next generations of people to come. That's really, really a good thing. It's like a new crop. Know, that's really, really good. So
28:12 with your your love of history and you started, you just talk a lot in the book about in the first part of the book about the founding fathers and how the founding
28:23 fathers really, really embraced the bible. And that's where our inalienable right came from. I just have a little aside. Do you are you familiar with the founder's bible?
28:35 I've heard of it, but I don't own a copy.
28:38 You should buy 1. Okay. Gonna advocate for that. Brad Cummings, is the editor in chief of the founder's bible, is a is 1 of my best friends. And he, you know, there there's so
28:50 much. It's so rich with founding fathers, material. And and just as a little aside of how that got started because I've asked him, I said, Brad, how did you ever do this? And he said, well, he was actually trying to set
29:02 up a meeting with Glenn Beck about because Brad wrote the the book, The Shack, and the it was the producer on the movie, The Shack. And he was trying to set up a meeting with Glenn Beck, and he had to go through David
29:13 Barton to get to him. Well, David Barton is, you know, America's historian and has the largest private collection of original documents from the founding fathers, more than 100000 documents there.
29:25 And Brad says, I have a miss master's degree in church history. I didn't know any of this. How could this be? We need to get this out. So that's where the all the founders bible, all those documents and stuff are in
29:36 there are kind of woven in the verses that were used were set up against it. It I think you would really enjoy having that as part of your collection. So that's just a little bit of a side. And so for the audience, if
29:47 you were interested in that, if you go to the founders bible dot com, the find founders bible dot com and you put in DRT at checkout, Brad's even gonna generously give you 20 percent off and that was not
29:59 intended to be a a a A sales pitch for the founder's bible, but it really is a way that you really and it's you know Mother's Day is coming up. Father's Day is coming up. Lots of graduations are coming up, so it might be
30:10 a really nice gift to give somebody and Nathan. Really think that you would enjoy it with your love of history and the way that you talk through everything. I think you would really enjoy that.
30:21 We were very blessed to have David Barton on our TV show Christ in Prophecy, and his knowledge of both American history and church history is incredible. I have a quote in my book, Security
30:33 instead of Enslavement, Justice instead of corruption, Virtue instead of vice, and the preservation of the happiness of his people rather than the cause of their suffering. These are the godly ideals in which
30:45 upon the founding fathers founded a nation. They understood to that these ends rest the primary reason for why god has instituted human government and so Doctor T, that's why human government fails again and again
30:56 because its leadership cares often more about itself and feeding itself instead of protecting and taking care of its people I think the founding fathers were different than almost any, if not,
31:08 every nation that's ever come before them because they turned to God and they sought what the Bible teaches a justice that they looked towards that coming kingdom. They call it a city on a hill, and they base this
31:19 country on Judeo Christian values that the Bible teaches. Unfortunately we've given them up I think overall as a country, so our time is probably short. But we know when Christ's Kingdom comes
31:31 all the nations of the world will join the Antichrist and rebel against them, and that includes the United States. So we know that the United States as a nation has an endpoint at some time. I hope during the Millennial
31:43 Kingdom as the nations are reformed that maybe the United States will come back again. We only know that Israel, Egypt, Assyria, and Russia are named during the Millennial
31:54 Kingdom. But my hope is that the United States will stand once again because we stood up for Judeo Christian values.
32:01 It's good. Well, this is a good place to take a really quick break. We're talking today with Doctor Nathan Jones, the author of many books, but his most recent book, The Coming Millennial Kingdom, which we're gonna talk
32:12 about a lot when we come back from the break. It's exploring the thousand year reign of Jesus Christ on Earth. So we're gonna take a really short break. We will be right back.
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33:32 Well, back everyone. You know, Nathan, premise of your book really is in the title or part of the premise. You you cover so much material in this book. But exploring the thousand year reign
33:44 of Jesus Christ on Earth. What do you think that's gonna look like?
33:48 Oh, this is the good part. You know, we we can talk about tribulations and antichrist and destruction and all, but the kingdom of Christ is like the opening scene to an eternal kingdom. And
34:00 Doctor. T, it's all tied to a promise that God made David in 2 Samuel 7. He said, I will set up your seed after you, and I will establish the throne of His
34:10 kingdom forever. So this is a promise to King David that eventually his descendant would be the ultimate Davidic king who has promised a kingdom forever. So the
34:22 millennial kingdom isn't exactly just about us. As humans we kind of make it about ourselves. It's about a promise that the Father made to the Son that He would have a forever kingdom. It's also tied to a promise that
34:34 Jesus made not once, not twice, not just 3 times, 3 whole times in Revelation 22. He said, Behold, I am coming quickly, and my reward is with me to give to
34:46 everyone according to his work. It's an ironclad promise that Jesus Christ will indeed return. We can trust that. We can bank on it. It might seem like it's been 2000 years in a longShow more
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