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March 3, 2026 · 59 min
Tony Perkins and his guests unpack what we know regarding the joint U.S.-Israel attack on Iran, contemplate the implications at home and abroad, and then consider it from a biblical perspective.
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Breaking News: US-Israel Strikes on Iran 0:00 Hello. I'm Tony Perkins, president of Family Research Council and host of Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in. Every day, we offer a biblical perspective on the news as well as insightful interviews with elected0:11 leaders, newsmakers, and cultural experts. We have a great program planned for you today, but first, get up to speed on the top headlines with the Washington Stands news brief.0:27 Welcome to the Washington Stand News Brief. I'm Sarah Holliday with today's top stories. The US and Israel conducted strikes on Iran on Saturday. Tragically, 40:38 US service members have now been confirmed killed. Top brass have warned that we should brace for more losses. President Donald Trump said the deaths were inevitable and he's insisting0:50 the end game will be a quote, great deal for the world. Earlier today, he honored the sacrifice of those who have already perished.1:00 For almost 47 years, this regime has been attacking the United States and killing Americans. Every time you see someone with missing arms and legs or a face that's been1:12 absolutely shattered violently, it was almost certainly caused by an Iran roadside bomb. Today, we grieve for the 4 heroic American service members who have been1:24 killed in action and send our love and support to their families. In their memory, we continue this mission with ferocious, unyielding resolve to crush the1:36 threat this terrorist regime poses to the American people, and a threat indeed it is.1:43 Over in Iran, highways have been jammed with people fleeing bombed out cities. Many Iranians have also celebrated the death of the supreme leader. So far, Australia and Canada have1:55 expressed support for the US Israeli military operation. On the other hand, the UN Security Council scrambled into an emergency session where leaders have condemned the escalation and called for US Iran2:06 talks to resume. Stateside, congress is accelerating the pace for a bipartisan war powers vote this week in an attempt to hinder Trump's ability to do more solo strikes at least2:18 without a green light from members on the hill first. Meanwhile, the mess is spilling over the borders after Israel attacked Hezbollah strongholds in Lebanon. 31 people were killed and2:30 149 wounded in a bid to neutralize militants. And in a wild friendly fire blunder, Kuwaiti defenses mistook 3 US f 15 jets for2:42 Iranian threats and shot them down mid attack. All 6 crew members ejected safely, but talk about a close call. Clearly, Trump's decisions have elicited a variety of reactions.2:54 Stateside, some polls show upward of 27 percent of Americans supporting the strikes, while other polls reveal strong disapproval. At least 56 percent believe Trump is too quick to use3:06 military force to advance US interests. Overall, opinions appear largely split by party lines. However, no matter which side of the aisle you find yourself on, the increased3:18 risks of terror threats here in the states have countless Americans on edge. This very concern hit close to home early Sunday morning. A gunman opened fire in Austin, Texas.3:30 He killed 2 people and wounded 14 others. Police shot the suspect within minutes of the first 9 1 1 call. The shooter was wearing a hoodie that read property of Allah. He also3:42 had a Quran and apparent pro Iranian symbols in his car, all of which have raised eyebrows. He's now being investigated as a potential nexus to terrorism, even as authorities say3:54 it's too early to determine exact motives. The Joint Terrorism Task Force is now involved examining the suspect's background, including online posts showing strong antisemitic4:06 and anti Christian views. This comes as the FBI has placed counterterrorism teams on high alert nationwide following the US Israel strikes on Iran, which Iranian4:18 officials have vowed to retaliate against. Now major cities are ramping up security. While authorities say the risk of direct large scale attack remains low, with tensions4:29 skyrocketing, vigilance is essential. And those are today's headlines. I'm Sarah Holliday. For more stories that matter, be sure to tune in to the Washington Stand news brief tomorrow.4:52 From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington DC, bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and5:04 newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.5:10 Today, the United States military continues to carry out large scale combat operations in Iran to eliminate the grave threats posed to America by this terrible terrorist5:22 regime. This was our last best chance to strike what we're doing right now and eliminate the intolerable threats posed by this sick and sinister regime regime.5:34 That was president Donald Trump earlier today addressing the strikes against Iran now in their third day. Welcome to this March second edition of Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for joining us. Well,5:46 coming up, Virginia congressman and former Navy Seal John Maguire will join me shortly to break down the strikes on Iran and discuss how this conflict is likely to impact Israel and the broader Middle East. And5:57 pastor Jack Hibbs, the senior and founding pastor of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills in California, will join me with a biblical perspective of what is unfolding in the Middle East. Does the Bible speak to what we're6:09 witnessing? Well, the US and Israel continued strikes in Iran for a third day. The president spoke to reporters6:20 earlier today for the first time since the attack on Iran began, stating that he ordered the attack to stop Tehran's nuclear development and ballistic missile program. Joining me6:32 now is Washington stand reporter Casey Harper. Casey, did the president indicate how long these strikes, his conflict with Iran could continue?6:41 Yeah. Thanks, Tony. They've been a bit vague, but president Trump did say the strikes could continue 4 to 5 weeks, but he's also said that the US has the capability to go far longer if needed. We've also seen language6:53 coming out of Israel saying they'll do this as long as it takes. But the conflict is expanding in the Middle East as Iran has launched strikes against Israel, but also US military bases in Gulf co Gulf7:04 countries to the west and the south. And, that's led to retaliatory strikes. More than 50 people have been killed in Lebanon after Israel launched their own counter strikes in response7:16 to missile fire from their old nemesis, Hezbollah, which has long been based out of southern Lebanon. Now secretary of war Pete Hegseth described this mission mission of operation Epic Fury as laser focused,7:28 Said they're focused on destroying, Iran's offensive missiles, taking out their navy and other security infrastructure, and stopping them from getting nuclear weapons. Here's a clip from earlier today.7:39 To the media outlets and political left screaming endless wars, Stop. This is not Iraq. This is not endless. This operation is a clear, devastating, decisive7:52 mission. Destroy the missile threat. Destroy the navy. No nukes.7:57 And meanwhile, officials in Iran say more than 500 people have been killed since this all began, though we are a little wary of always taking those numbers at face value, Tony.8:06 Right. Right. Well, Casey, the, as I understand, the war in Iran has also put authorities here at home on high alert. Cities across America are increasing security measures amid8:18 this escalating conflict, and there's, you know, there's a history behind this. We've seen these, we've seen attacks before. A lot of them lone wolf attacks. But, what do we know thus far as we saw an attack over8:30 the weekend in Texas that's being investigated as a possible terrorist linked attack?8:35 Yeah. That's right, Tony. A lot of law enforcement agencies are showing some of that concern for the same reasons that you laid out. I mean, Homeland Security secretary, Kristine Noem says she's working with federal8:46 intelligence and law enforcement partners to monitor any other potential threats that could come out. And she actually sent a bulletin to law enforcement partners warning that these increased tensions could inspire not8:57 just lone actor, attacks like we saw as you mentioned in Austin, but also cyberattacks. In fact, here's senator Tom Cotton on these heightened security measures.9:06 The FBI is taking every potential threat around the nation very seriously. This is, by the way, another very compelling reason that we need to fund the Department of Homeland Security9:18 immediately. The Democrats are highly irresponsible to keep Homeland Security unfunded while we're in the middle of a war against the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism.9:30 Now you mentioned that shooting, the tragic shooting in Austin left, 2 dead as well along with the gunman dead and 14 injured. And there's now US law enforcement is investigating the terror links there to the mass9:42 shooting as there was apparently, reports of Islamic and Iranian memorabilia on the shooter.9:48 Yeah. We're gonna take a look at that a little deeper, Casey, later with Tim Miller, president of Lionheart International Services Group. Let let's, let let let's switch gears. I wanna talk about another10:00 major domestic story. Voters in several states head to the polls tomorrow. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's election time. So in the primaries, these are the first primaries of the year. Tell us where those are10:12 happening because people need to be informed.10:15 Tony, my home state of Texas, we remember the Alamo, but you also have to remember to vote. The first primary races of the midterm elections are taking place not just in the great state of Texas, but also Arkansas10:27 and North Carolina. Now in Texas in particular, this marks the most expensive primary in state history, and that's on both sides of the aisle. On the Republican side, senator John Cornyn is facing off in a10:38 3 way 3 way race against, attorney general Ken Paxton and congressman Wesley Hunt. Now on the Democrat side, congressman Jasmine Crockett is facing off against the state rep, James Tallarico.10:51 Now a FRC Action has put together voter guides for our listeners to help inform them of issues as well as policies and the political standings of those running. For those interested, you can go to I voter guide dot com.11:02 That's I voter guide dot com and learn more, Tony.11:06 Alright, Casey. Thanks so much. I I don't assume you're gonna go run back to Texas and vote, though, are you?11:11 No. I don't think I can make it. Alright. You got me working.11:15 I know. I know. Alright. I wanna go back now to, the US military operation Epic Fury, which was, launched against Iran Saturday morning. Joining us now to discuss is congressman JohnMilitary Strategy and Expert Analysis 11:26 McGuire, member of the House Armed Services Committee and the Oversight and Government Reform Committee. He is also a veteran of the United States Navy, having served as a Navy Seal with, multiple deployments in11:38 countries across the world. He represents the fifth congressional district of Virginia. Congressman Maguire, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.11:47 Hey, Tony. Good to see you. Yeah. A lot lot going on in the world right now.11:51 There is. There is. Before we jump into, Iran, I just wanna ask you 1 question. You're part of the oversight committee last week. You were a part of the depositions there in New York with, former secretary of state12:02 Hillary Clinton and, former president, Bill Clinton. What what were your takeaways from that?12:10 Well, the first thing, a former secretary of state was the highest person ever questioned in 250 years of congress. And then the president is obviously the highest person ever questioned a former president. So what I12:20 would say is there's a lot of selective memory. You know, Hillary Clinton could literally remember what she had for breakfast in 9 9 19 92.12:28 But if12:29 it came to the Epstein files, anything like that, I don't remember. I don't recall. Same thing with Bill Clinton. However, I think that our line of questioning, they weren't prepared because we actually got a lot of new12:40 information out of Bill Clinton. Probably got more information out of Bill Clinton than we did Hillary Clinton.12:46 So any any leads to follow-up on for the committee?12:50 Yeah. I think so. I'm obviously, I don't know what they've released yet. I've been busy meeting after meeting after meeting all day, and we're not allowed to talk until it's released, but definitely some follow ups. And12:58 the 1 thing that was striking from from Bill Clinton was he said even in the nineties, president Trump made a lot of noise about Epstein being a bad guy. So that I don't know. I think that's been13:10 leaked. So that's just another example of the many exonerating our president. And then, of course, you know, some of the pictures of him in hot tubs and swimming pools and things with different girls, You know, we didn't13:22 necessarily know the locations, but those locations came out. But, again, once the full deposition is out, the public will see13:28 that. Well, it's, as I said last week, I don't think this is gonna go away anytime soon. This seems to be an issue that needs to be addressed. Alright. I I wanna move on to Operation Epic Fury, your your your take on13:40 what's transpired over the last 72 hours.13:43 Well, I gotta tell you about first of all, our troops need all Americans on board. You know, I've seen some politicians trying to make it political. I would say don't do that. You know how it's like when you're deployed.13:53 Our troops will never forget that. When I when I was a Navy Seal, nobody knew if I was a Democrat, Republican, independent. We're apolitical. We're there to get the job done and get our boys and girls home safe. And it's14:03 the only thing we should be thinking about. So prayers and focus on making sure they get the job done. But this is gonna be things that they're gonna study in the at West Point and other universities for 100 years. It is14:13 amazing. I mean, to be able to take out the leadership, which is number 1 goal, they took out 48 in 1 hit. We thought it would take weeks or months to do that. They did it in 1 hit. That's amazing. That's a miracle. The14:25 next thing you wanna do is take out their infrastructure, and we've been working really hard to serve their command and control. We've taken out their command and control, and now we're going up to those 400 launchers14:33 and those 2500 ballistic missiles. We know we've got 200 launchers, but they got probably 200 left, and they've only fired 5, 600, ballistic missiles, which is a lot, but they got a lot more14:45 left. So we have air superiority, and we are hunting them down. But what's really striking to me is how Iran's response was to attack their own allies. So now, just about every14:57 country in the Middle East has joined the US Israeli side. And now, I hear France, England, and maybe Germany are supporting the US efforts to stop this number 1 state of terror.15:09 So it's, very remarkable.15:11 It is. You know, 1 thing, congressman McGuire, that the the media, as I've read the media report saying the Trump administration has gone into this without any clear objectives. They have no plan. And and I'm I mean, I'm15:23 listening to it. I'm reading it. Destroy Iran's missile capabilities, annihilate its navy, and ensure that it will never obtain a nuclear weapon, and prevent it from continuing15:35 to fund terrorist operations outside of their border. That sounds pretty defined to me.15:41 It's very clear. And by the way, Iran had the state of terror has been terrorizing Americans and the world and the region for almost 50 years. A lot of your viewers may not know, but in15:53 the early seventies, they had more women in elected position than in the United States, and they had more women in the workforce than the United States. And they had women at the beaches sunbathing, then this16:05 regime comes in, they can't go to school, they can't drive a car, they cover their faces, cover their bodies, and they're under extreme oppression. And that's when all the terrorism started in the region16:17 and the world. And so it's it's just it's a god thing that all these countries are circling the wagons to realize that if we could get rid of this regime, we could have peace in the Middle East,16:29 peace in the world.16:31 Alright. Congressman, I I want you to put back on that Navy seal cap there for just a moment. We're gonna talk about this later in the program, but warfare today is asymmetrical. I mean, you've got terrorism16:43 is operating everywhere. We know we've got cells around the world. We potentially believe there are cells here in the United States. How long is it going to take to to really16:54 eradicate this threat?16:57 Well, you never know. I think, it's it's it's until it's done. But you you brought up a good point. I think about 9 11. Remember how united our country was? Well, when the FBI did the investigation, they found several17:09 options or several situations where if an American here or there spoke up. You know, they saw something strange, but they ignored it. But what I would tell, and I put that in my press release, is to all Americans, be17:20 vigilant. If you see something, say something, do something. Let's keep an eye on each other. We could have prevented a lot of things in our history if somebody would have just spoken up. Evil does exist. The Biden17:30 administration brought in 15 to 20000000 people. We don't know who they are. And that brings me to another point. We've passed 11 out of 12 spending bills. The Democrats are holding the, Homeland Security spending bill17:42 hostage because they wanna punish ICE. But ICE has already been funded through the 1 big beautiful bill, the work and family tax cut. What they're doing is they're hurting TSA, FEMA, coast guard, and some of our17:54 intelligence assets that would help us prevent a terrorist attack on on our on our homeland. So I hope that all of your viewers will reach out to their US senators and their congressmen and say vote18:05 yes to fund homeland security.18:09 All very good and relevant points. Congressman John Maguire, always great to see you. Thanks so much for pulling off the side of the road and, joining joining us this evening.18:18 Ashley, thanks for all you do, Sean. We appreciate you.18:21 Alright. Congressman John McGuire of Virginia. You know, 1 thing he started with was prayer. We need to be praying for our men and women in uniform, praying for our leaders. And I invite you to join us in that with a18:32 prayer pledge. Text the word Iran. Iran to 6 7 7 4 2. That's Iran to 6 7 7 4 2. I r a n to 6 7 7 4 2.18:43 Alright. When we come back, doctor Michael Rubin, former Pentagon official, joins us, so don't go away. When in the course of18:55 human events, it becomes necessary for 1 people18:58 to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth19:04 The separate and equal station to which the laws of nature19:07 And of nature's god entitle them.19:10 A decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes19:15 which impel them to the separation.19:17 We hold these truths to be self evident.19:20 That all men are created equal.19:22 That they're endowed by their creator. With certain unalienable rights. That among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men.19:34 Deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.19:38 Happy 200 and fiftieth.19:40 Happy 200 and fiftieth.19:42 Happy 200 and fiftieth.19:43 Happy 200 and fiftieth birthday, America.19:46 May god bless America. You see, America has freedom for a purpose. The question is, are we living by that purpose19:58 today? See, the founders understood we as a nation would be accountable to God for what he had granted to us. They sought freedom for a purpose, and that20:10 freedom was given to us as a nation for that same purpose, to serve God, to honor him, and to live as a people under his authority.20:21 At the 20 26 National Gathering for Prayer and Repentance in Washington DC, members of congress, state leaders, evangelical leaders, and intercessors from across the nation20:33 united as 1 voice in prayer.20:36 Heavenly father, thank you so much for this gathering. We do repent, and we ask for your continued favor and blessing over our nation even when we don't deserve it.20:44 I thank you that because of the shed blood and the glorious righteousness of your son, Jesus Christ, a sinner such as myself can boldly approach your20:56 throne. You said that you helped the humble, and we are asking just now that you would help us, Lord.21:17 We pray that you humble us, help us to follow after you with all our hearts so that we can see righteousness exalted in this nation and this nation restored to you. We know that it's not by our power. It's not by our21:29 might. It's by your spirit.21:30 Freedom has a name. His name is Jesus. And freedom has a purpose. It is to honor and glorify you. We pray that we would return to that purpose. Amen.21:54 Welcome back to Washington Watch. Again, you can join that effort to pray for what is unfolding in the Middle East. Pray for, our nations. Pray for our nation. Pray for our men and women in the military. Pray for our22:05 leaders. Pray for, the innocent folks in Iran and in that region and, of course, our ally Israel. Text the word Iran to 6 7 7 4 2, and I'll send you a link with the the prayer22:16 points and the the prayer pledge. Okay. As we've been talking about, the US Iran conflict is expanding as US military strikes continue for the third day. Iran has launched strikes on neighboring22:28 countries who are allies of the US, Middle Eastern countries, including the UAE, Bahrain, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia. Yesterday on Truthso22:40 Social, president Trump warned Iran that if it, continues attacks on American military bases, the US would strike back with a force never seen before. So as the situation continues to unfold,22:52 what could be the long term implications in the Middle East and beyond? Joining us now for analysis on the latest developments is a former Pentagon official, doctor Michael Rubin, who currently serves as the director of23:03 policy analysis at the Middle East Forum. He is also a senior fellow at American Enterprise Institute where he specializes in Middle Eastern countries. Doctor Rubin, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining23:15 us.23:16 Hey. Thanks for having me, Tony.23:18 So, let let's talk about what's happening now. The the leadership has been, essentially taken out. They're going after command to control, going after these missiles. It looks like a pretty clearly stated mission that23:29 the, the US military in Israel is undertaking. Am I reading that correctly?23:34 You are reading that correctly. What's actually interesting, though, is while it appears that the United States has taken out some of the leadership, the leadership that it wanted to take out, other23:46 people have not been targeted. And the question then becomes, are they not being targeted because they're simply on the b list for, whatever drone or missile? Or are they not being23:58 targeted because Donald Trump is still thinking about a Venezuela like solution of putting former regime officials in charge? I'm thinking specifically of the former presidents Hassan Rouhani, Mohammed24:10 Khatami, and the National Security Council director Ali Laudajani.24:14 Alright. Speaking of some leaders that have not been taken out, who's directing Iran's response right now?24:22 Well, that's a very good question. And we don't know for sure, but it seems that the person who has the greatest grasp over the command and control is24:34 Ali Larijani, who's the, secretary of the Supreme National Security Council. He's important because, he was in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, then he became the deputy24:46 minister of social affairs, then he became an adviser to Ali Khamenei. So it really checks all the bases, and he's the 1 who has said he's no law that Iran isn't going to negotiate with the24:57 United States. If he's the 1 issuing those sorts of statements, it's likely he's in charge, Tony.25:03 Alright. So help me understand the strategy that they've kind of been employing of hitting neighboring countries and targeting their energy, facilities, oil and gas25:15 facilities?25:16 There's 2 things going on here, Tony, and I think they're both mistakes on Iran's part. First of all, by striking neighboring countries, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, even Cyprus,25:28 what the Iranians are trying to do is get these countries to intercede with the United States and say, Israel, United States, you need to stop. The opposite is actually25:40 happening, however. These countries are who were fence sitters before, who weren't necessarily happy with the conflict with Iran, are now targeting Iran. The second issue, however,25:52 is that when going after the energy resources, the Iranians are trying to increase the price of that energy with the purpose of, getting money for themselves26:04 and also creating political pressure back in the United States, Europe, and elsewhere.26:10 I think you're right. I think, Iran has underestimated the fact that a lot of these countries weren't saying much, but they didn't like the position that Iran was in because it was a it was a latent threat to them.26:23 You're you're absolutely right. But in this case, the Iranians really don't have the ability to do what they're doing for that long. First of all, when the markets have experienced a short, a small26:35 bump in the price of oil, Tony. But remember, most of Iran's oil was sanctioned anyway. And with Venezuela really coming back on, what Iran had been selling, they had been selling to China, and they26:47 have been selling illegally. So in this case, I suspect that, the pressure that Iran wanted to assert on the United States and the region is rapidly gonna decline.26:58 Alright. Doctor Rubin, you're an expert in Middle East. Help help me understand what might be likely outcomes here. What parallels in history do we have of a regime being brought27:10 down, like this where, you know, the the the the people there maybe take over? I mean, what are the likely outcomes?27:18 Well, you know, the best historical parallel would probably be Serbia in 19 99. Although it's important to remember that in Serbia, Slobodan Milosevic, didn't lose power27:30 immediately during the bombing campaign. He lost power shortly thereafter when he tried to remain in power after a fraudulent election. Other people will point out what happened to Imperial27:42 Japan after World War 2. But the important thing to remember, of course, is that was after World War 2. After the Pacific theater fight and so forth, we bombed Iran, Japan into submission.27:54 But we're not talking about using nuclear weapons here. The problem right now is that Iranians believe that perhaps they can simply outlast Donald Trump because they have lots of evidence that Donald Trump doesn't28:06 necessarily have the attention span to outlast them.28:11 Given your understanding of what they have their capacity, the president is saying this could be 4 to 5 weeks, maybe a little bit longer than the United States is prepared to go longer. What what is your sense?28:23 My sense is, what you're saying is true. The president has privately said he expects us to go on for about 40 days. He's also told people that they're, that he believes that the United States is ahead of28:35 schedule, and that's because instead of having to hunt down every single Iranian leader, they all decided to have breakfast together on the first day. So you have a situation where we actually are in good shape. The big28:46 question will be whether we run out of munitions, whether Israel runs out of munitions or defense, and whether the Gulf states run out of defense. But, again, Iran is gonna run out of the missiles and the28:58 drones that's firing at people.29:00 Alright. We have 30, 45 seconds left, doctor Rubin. Does this open a new chapter of greater global instability or greater stability?29:10 It all depends on what the end result is in Iran. If we actually have a stable non Islamist republic, that's gonna be a huge that's gonna stabilize the entire29:22 region. If we have a civil war, that's gonna be the worst case scenario, Tony.29:27 Doctor Rubin, always appreciate your insights. Thanks so much for, joining us this afternoon.Show more In this video 0:00 Breaking News: US-Israel Strikes on Iran11:21 Military Strategy and Expert Analysis29:31 Domestic Threats and the Call to Prayer42:08 Biblical Insights on the Iran Conflict
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