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Senate parliamentary issues impact the Big Beautiful Bill; Israel peace proposal calls for major concessions; potential Iranian leadership change; the rise of NYC’s socialist mayoral candidate.
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Political Theater and Legislative Battles 0:00 From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, DC, bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and0:12 newsmakers, all from a biblical world view. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts0:18 now. This is good for America. This is good for the American people. It's good for working families. And, it's been a long debate. I know people are weary. But at the end of the day, we wanna get this done so this0:30 country is safer and stronger and more prosperous, not only for today, but for future generations of Americans.0:38 That was senate Republican leader John Thune earlier today on the senate floor advocating for what the president has called the 1 big beautiful bill. Welcome to this June thirtieth edition of Washington Watch. I'm your0:48 host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for tuning in. Well, the senate is locked in a marathon debate over the reconciliation bill, a back and forth that's expected to stretch late into the night.0:59 With every rewrite, senate Republicans have made their bill more extreme, pro billionaire, and more hostile to people's health care and livelihood. Why did they do that? There's a1:11 small group on that side of the aisle, MAGA hard right wingers, who are dictating what's happened and all the rest of the senate senators on the Republican side who know it's wrong go along.1:23 That, of course, was senate Democrat leader Chuck Schumer. Now let let me just say this. Take everything you hear coming out of the US Capitol with a healthy dose of skepticism. About 90 percent of1:35 what's said, especially from the minority party, is nothing more than political theater. They're they they lament the process and and, frankly, rightfully so in some cases. But but when they were in1:47 power, when the Democrats were in power, they did the same or worse. Alright? So take everything you hear with a healthy dose of skepticism. Alright. Stepping off the soapbox1:59 now. In In just a moment, we're gonna be joined by Florida congressman Greg Stube. He's calling on senate Republicans to stand firm and protect the core elements of the reconciliation bill that the house sent2:11 over. We'll talk about the prospects the bill faces when and if it returns to the house. And on Friday, president Trump said a ceasefire may be in the works for Gaza.2:22 I think it's close. I just spoke with, some of the people involved. That's a terrible situation that's going Gaza, he's he's asking about. And, we think within the next week, we're gonna get a2:33 ceasefire.2:35 So what would a ceasefire include? Some reports are emerging suggesting that the ill conceived idea of a 2 state solution in Judea and Samaria is once again surfacing. We'll get insight from for2:47 former congresswoman Michelle Bachman, now dean at Regent University School of Government. And, also, over the weekend, I spoke with former UN ambassador John Bolton about the2:58 future of Iran.3:00 The regime in the Ayatollah is right now is on its back, and we owe a lot of that to Israel for pummeling the terrorist surrogates. This is potentially a moment when, you really could see change in Iran,3:13 to help alleviate, circumstances and the threat of terrorism all around the region.3:18 We'll share a portion of that eye opening conversation later on this edition of Washington Watch. Also, FRC's Kena Gonzalez will join us with the latest details on the reconciliation process, what's in, what's3:30 out, and what's at stake. And the Washington Stands' Casey Harper will share some encouraging numbers suggesting that maybe, just maybe, America is desperate enough over what's happening in3:42 our public schools to start inviting God back into the classroom. All of that and more coming up on this Monday edition of Washington Watch. And, by the way, today is June the3:54 thirtieth. This is the final day of our fiscal year. We are just shy of our annual budget goal. So but first, let me say thank you to all of you who have already given, especially those who have taken advantage4:06 of the challenge match, doubling the impact of your gift. But if you haven't given yet, there's still time to ensure that Washington Watch stays on the air all across this country. So we have team members4:18 standing by to take your call, and your gift today will be doubled if you make the phone call today. So give us a call, 802 2 5 4 0 0 8.4:29 That's 802 2 5 4 0 0 8, or you can go to f r c dot o r g and make your gift there, and it'll be matched as well. But today is the final day, so4:41 thanks for standing with us. Alright. Underway right now in, the United States Senate is what's called a vote a rama on the big, beautiful bill. Democrats continue to oppose it4:53 and already have lost an attempt to stop the 20 17 Trump tax cuts, a crucial part of the bill. The White House earlier today said that the president would be meeting with Republican congressional leadership as the5:05 voting goes on. So what is the outlook right now for the big beautiful bill that's lost some of its luster? Well, joining us now, congressman Greg Stubbe. He serves on house the House Ways5:17 and Means Committee. He represents the seventeenth congressional district of Florida. Congressman Stubbe, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for taking time to join us.5:25 Hey, Tony. Thanks for having me.5:27 Alright. You've watched the process over the weekend. The current status of the bill, your thoughts?5:34 Well, obviously, they're going through all these different amendments in the senate side, so we're not gonna see, the results of the the cumulative bill until they get through that. We're being told there's gonna be a5:44 manager's amendment, which will be a big comprehensive amendment at the very end that would amend the majority of the provisions of the bill. The parliamentarian has struck a lot of the provisions that the house had sent5:55 over that were conservative provisions that would have cut illegal immigrants, for example, of getting Medicaid funding and these type of things that obviously conservatives in the house supported. So we'll have to wait6:06 and see. It it seems as though the expectation is is the senate will pass it either late tonight or early in the morning, and then we are due to go back to the house. I'm gonna fly up tomorrow, and then it'll be a vote6:18 probably Wednesday morning around 9 o'clock.6:21 So some of the other items that the parliamentarian, in what's called the birdbath washed out, there was a defunding of planned parenthood that's been reduced to simply a6:33 12 month defunding of planned parenthood, Something that you have worked on hard in the the in the house has been the issue of gender. All of the gender transition issues6:44 that were in this bill kept taxpayers out of that. That's all out of the present bill. How hard do you think it's going to be for the house to to take this bill as the senate6:56 currently has it? And I know there's gonna be some manager amendments, but I'm told that those provisions are not gonna make their way back in.7:04 Yeah. It's gonna be tough. I mean, it's it's pretty tall order for the senate to be able to upset conservatives and moderates on both sides of, all these different issues moving forward. They've increased7:16 spending considerably, which guys like myself who signed a letter that we wanted to keep the house framework, becomes very problematic because they've completely dismissed the house's framework, and7:28 it's it's putting 3900000000000.0 on the debt, over a 10 year period of time. Now the White House will say that through tariffs and the economic impact, that that'll be reduced and it'll be a deficit neutral bill. But on7:39 paper, that's what it says. So it makes it hard for us to vote for that. It's expanding the debt ceiling by 5000000000000, which is obviously hard for conservatives to do because Washington has a spending problem, and7:49 this is our once in a generation opportunity to cut the spending in Washington. So it's gonna be very difficult to try to thread the needle. We can only lose 3 votes on the house side. If we lose 4, the bill dies. We8:01 know that Massey is gonna be a no. All of us are kinda waiting to see what that manager's amendment is gonna look like and and what it's gonna look like when it comes over before we start making our decisions. But the8:12 bottom line is I don't wanna be in the way of tax cuts to the American people. If this bill does not pass, the average family of four's taxes are gonna increase, like, 3500 dollars a year. You're gonna see small8:23 businesses' taxes increase by 20 percent through the 1 99 a deduction. So this is a huge economic bill as it relates to tax cuts, making Trump's tax cuts and jobs act permanent. The the8:35 American people have asked for this by voting for president Trump and getting him elected, and we have to deliver for them.8:41 Agree with all that you just laid out there, but let me ask you, congressman Stuvi. Do you feel like the senate is jamming Republicans by not really fighting, the8:53 parliamentarian on some of her rulings?8:56 Yeah. I've asked, for her to be fired. I don't know why you would be the leader the Republican leader of the senate and have a parliamentarian who was hired by Harry Reid 12 years ago, over a decade ago.9:08 Obviously, she's a Democrat. She was hired by Democrats. She's been there for over a decade. When new leadership comes in, it's under the understanding that new leadership is gonna bring in, new staff that works for9:18 them. It's very frustrating that an unelected bureaucrat who was appointed by Harry Reid is going to determine what provisions are in president Trump's 1 big beautiful bill, provisions that the majority of the9:30 house voted on and sent over to the senate. So it's very frustrating to see that the leadership over there isn't willing to, change their staff. But, Theuna said that he's sticking with her and the9:41 optics, quote, unquote, would look bad. But, we got elected by the American people to get a job done, and you have an unelected bureaucrat that's kinda standing in the way of these different provisions, which is very9:52 frustrating for myself and very frustrating for a lot of the majority of the house.9:56 So, again, the Republicans in in the house have to take what the senate sends over even though they didn't really fight for the core values and the core principles, the core elements that were in the house version. Do10:08 you think there's the possibility that there is a little bit of a ping pong match that the house maybe tweaks it and sends it back over?10:16 Yeah. We don't have to take it. We can obviously make our own changes again, but those changes will go back to the senate. And then the question will be, is the senate gonna be able to pass it again? Obviously, the10:26 president doesn't want this thing to ping pong. He wants to have a a bill signing on July fourth for his, Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, making that permanent for the American people and the things that he campaigned on. So10:38 So any change that the house would make would cause the bill to go back to the senate. Any type of conference, whether it be formal or informal, would not make the timeline that the president wants. Obviously, it's a10:49 timeline that he has set up. We don't go back into recess until August. We're there, the next 3 weeks of July, but that's the timeline that we look at. Any change on the house side, we'll send it back to the senate.11:01 So the question is gonna be once we see what this language is that passes the the senate, is there enough people that have a problem with it that would force it to get changed in the house and then sent back to the11:11 senate side?11:12 It seems that the president may be backing off a little bit of that July fourth deadline, because I think he'd rather have a a a good bill, than enforce a, a bad through a bill through the process11:24 prematurely.11:26 I would. I I mean, I would support going into a formal conference. I came from the state legislature in Florida where the house came up with the bill, a senate came up with the bill, you went into conference, you worked11:37 out the differences, and the product got sent back down to both of the chambers. I certainly think it would be a better product for the American people, but, obviously, that's gonna take time, And you never know what you11:49 change on 1 side or the other is gonna affect other senators or other house members' positions because you have such a slim majority. We can only lose 3 in the house. They can only lose 3 in the senate. It becomes, very12:00 challenging politically to get that done. But I would on the side of taking the time necessary to make sure that we get this thing right.12:08 I I think part of the concern may be that the congress is going into a break. People go back home. You get some of this you know, we've seen some of the, fabricated town hall meetings before where,12:20 you know, people turn out and put this pressure on some I'm you're you're right. With such a slim majority, I think the the leadership may be a little, hesitant to send people back home for a12:32 week or so to, before there's a vote.12:35 Well, we're up there the next 3 weeks, but leadership has made it very clear that we're we're gonna be voting on this bill that comes from the senate regardless of what it looks like. So whatever product comes out of the12:44 senate, we're gonna have a vote, probably Wednesday, is my guess. We're gonna be voting on the bill if it passes the senate on whatever that product is. Now if there's, more than 3 people that says no, they can't vote12:56 for it for whatever reason, then that would probably force some type of either informal conference or informal, discussions, or they make the changes in the house, and then we send it back to the senate. But that'll13:07 that'll jam up the timeline, for this week.13:11 Alright. Congressman Greg Stubbe, always great to see you. Thanks so much for, taking time to to join us today. We're gonna be watching the process, obviously, very, very closely.13:20 Anytime. Good to see you.13:21 Alright, folks. And, you can still weigh in on this process. This is why I encourage you to have the Stand Firm app. Because if you're on the Stand Firm app, you'll get notifications of when you need to weigh in with13:32 your member of congress or your senators when these bills are progressing along the way. And it'll also give you the in information of what's really in it. Something so big like this, hundreds of pages,13:44 we go through, we dissect it, we bring out the issues that relate to faith, family, and freedom so that you can weigh in in a very informed way. Alright. Don't go away. When we come back,13:56 Michelle Bachman joins me here on Washington Watch.Spiritual Engagement and Biblical Insights 14:00 Hi, everyone. This is pastor Jay Johnston, national prayer director with the Family Research Council. I wanna invite you to join our 21 day family bible challenge as we read14:12 through the book of Matthew. This is an opportunity for you and for your family to come together for 15 minutes today to read God's word together. Deuteronomy14:24 6 says, these commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you14:36 lie down, and when you get up. Seek the word of God, obey the word of God, share the word of God so that you and others might know the joy of walking with God now14:48 and for all eternity. As your family gathers to read the Bible, invite the Holy Spirit to work in your life to spiritually transform each 1 of you.15:00 Ask the Lord to show you creative ways for you to connect with your family, to read God's word together. I pray that however God uses this challenge in your15:12 life and those that you join together with will be a blessing to you you and strengthen you as you read the gospel of Matthew together. Visit f r c dot o r g15:24 slash family bible challenge for more information.15:31 In a time when Washington seems clouded by compromise, a bold group of lawmakers are standing firm in defense of the values which our nation was built upon. At FRC Action's15:43 100 percent awards, 171 members of congress were honored for voting 100 percent in line with policies that promote faith, family, and freedom.15:54 Faith and family made our country it's the foundation that made our country not only great, but good.16:00 The values that make America, faith, family, hard work, first responsibility. And that to me is the heart of FRC and, grateful for everything that they do.16:09 It's very important for us to have organizations such as FRC. First of all, I think it keeps us grounded. In addition to which, the issues that you champion are issues that we should all be championing.16:19 FRC is very, very good at honing in on those things that, really affect Christians' lives. Also, working with members of Congress too to make sure that those values are instilled in the legislation that we create.16:31 Having the Family Research Council to guide us is, critically important to being able to do the right thing consistently.16:40 These lawmakers have drawn the line, not just in policy, but in principle. This is more than politics. This is conviction in action. Visit f r c action dot org for more16:52 information on how you too can make a difference.17:03 Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you with us. Alright. As I mentioned, this is the final day of our fiscal year, June the thirtieth, and we have team members standing by to take your call if you'd like to17:15 partner with us. As I've mentioned many times, we receive no government funding. We are here because of folks like you. So if you'd like to, to partner with us, in fact, today, your gift will be doubled. The last17:26 day last day, you can make a gift that will be doubled. But give us a call, 802 2 5 4 0 0 8. That's 802 2 5 4 0 0 8. And, again, let me thank17:38 everyone who has already called over the last, couple of weeks and made donations. We are grateful for that. Thanks for standing with us. Okay. With the, Iranian17:50 threat against Israel now, for the most part, neutralized, at least for the time being. President Trump is turning his attention back to the conflict between Israel and Hamas. Over the weekend, president Trump18:02 urged for progress in the ceasefire talks after saying Friday that an agreement could be struck within the next week. As negotiations continue, president Trump is being urged to resist any plan or proposal18:14 that would resurrect the so called 2 state solution. Here to discuss this and why this would be such a bad idea, but somehow finds its way into these negotiations18:26 every time regardless of political party in power is former congresswoman Michelle Bachman. She is, leading a, open letter to the president on this18:38 issue. She was a member of congress from Minnesota. She now serves as the dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University, and she also is the chair of the FRC board18:50 of directors. Michelle, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.18:54 Tony, thanks so much. Appreciate being on with you today.18:58 So let me ask you this. You know, for those let me just start with this. For those who do not know, what is the 2 state solution, and why is it a bad idea?19:09 Well, that's a division of the land of Israel. It's a proposal that somehow there will be peace from Arabs that they will not make war against the Jews if the Jews give19:21 up their land. For over 30 years, this has been enshrined in what's known as the Oslo Accords. It's never worked. It was tried in Gaza. It's been a complete failure. And so19:33 now, once again, it seems like it's being resurrected. It's a terrible idea. It only leads to hostility. It's the antithesis of peace.19:42 So you you brought this up, but let me just put a fine point on it. Gaza, that was turned over in 2005. The Hamas was elected in 2007.19:54 They've been leading that effort. So in effect, you've had a 2 state solution. They've controlled it. Israel has not been in there. They pulled out everything, even dug up the bodies of the dead, left nothing behind.20:06 And what happened? On October seventh, they attacked Israel. I mean, who cannot see that?20:13 Right. No. That's that's exactly right. And the term is commonly known as 2 state solution, meaning Israel proper is supposed to give up their legal land to20:25 Arabs in the promise for peace, but it's not a solution, as you know. It's a 2 state proposal that's been tried already, as you said, and a complete and20:36 utter deadly failure. So it is ridiculous to continue to revive these hopes that somehow by carving up Israel that there will be peace.20:48 Without a doubt, this has been completely rejected by the Jewish people in Israel. It's been rejected by the Israeli Knesset. They don't want this proposal because they know it will21:00 never work. And so it's wrong for the United States to bring up this idea and to try and impose this on Israel. It would be a tragedy.21:09 Michelle, let me ask you this question because you're you're right. The actual polling data in Israel post October the seventh shows the vast majority of Israelis are opposed to this. Even, Arab21:21 Israelis are opposed to the idea. So so there's no there's no appetite for this in Israel. So we've talked about the historical aspects of this and what happened just in recent times. The21:32 polling data shows it's politically, it's not popular. But let's talk about from a Christian perspective. You weighed in you and, Bill, Koenig wrote a letter, an open letter, which many have signed21:44 on to. And, folks, you you can sign on to it as well. You can text a letter to 6 7 7 4 2. I'll talk more about that in a minute. Letter in a moment, letter to 6 7 7 4 2. But, Michelle, talk21:56 about the biblical reason we should not be pursuing this as a country, and we should not, as Christians, be silent about a government, our government pursuing it regardless of what party's in22:08 power.22:09 Well, there is no issue more clear in the Bible than the issue of the covenant and God's covenant land. And what we know is that there are blessings when we bless Israel, there are22:21 cursings when we curse Israel. And so the bible is clear about that in Genesis, but also in the book of Joel, it's extremely clear. There's only 1 criterion upon which nations are judged, and22:33 that's how nations treat Zion. And Joel 3 verse 1 through 3 is very clear. It says, no nation should seek to divide the land or scatter the people. That's what22:44 God will judge nations on, and individuals are judged whether we bless or curse. So God has been very clear from the beginning of the bible all the way through the Bible22:56 that the centerpiece, the covenant, is that the Jewish people are to be in the land of Israel, Genesis 15 18, and the mission is clear, the purpose is23:08 clear. All nations on earth will be blessed. So just think, if we push dividing the land, that means we don't want blessings for families across the23:20 earth. That's not what god wants, and so we need to stay in line with what God tells us in his word. This is about as clear as it gets, Tony, in the Bible.23:30 And that promise of blessing or curse is not in the future. It is in the here and now. In fact, Bill Koenig, who you have, drafted and and posted this letter with,23:42 is the author of a book Eye to Eye where he catalogs all the events that have occurred in the United States when America has been on the wrong side of this issue.23:52 Well, that's true. And the interesting thing about Bill Koenig is that he was the only evangelical Christian in the White House press corps for years, and he noticed a pattern that when presidents pressured24:03 Israel to divide the land, the United States would experience a catastrophe. And he began compiling this. He did all the research, and it's proved to be true. It proved it to be true in24:15 president Trump's first administration when he proposed his peace to prosperity plan, which was a phased development, which if Arabs did certain things, Israel would divide24:27 its land. A a terrible tragedy occurred, which was COVID, the COVID task force. So24:32 Right.24:33 You know, but it it's very complex cause causality. But, again, the Bible is true, and we've seen it prove true in real time. And so it's imperative that24:44 all of the gains of the Trump administration not be lost.24:48 Michelle Bachman, always great to have you on the program. Thanks for joining24:52 us. Thanks, Tony.24:53 Folks, text the word letter to 6 7 7 4 2, and you can see the letter in sign. Alright. Don't go away.Show more In this video 0:00 Political Theater and Legislative Battles13:59 Spiritual Engagement and Biblical Insights25:02 Middle East Dynamics and Christian Responsibility33:58 Cultural Shifts and Spiritual Renewal
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