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Ignite-CB Podcast Ep. 05 - Dr. Ben Tapper
February 18, 2022 · 44 min
Welcome to the Ignite: Christian Business Podcast. We’re so glad to have you here with us.
Today’s guest is Dr. Ben Tapper, a practicing chiropractic doctor and health freedom advocate. The podcast focuses on the state of affairs concerning governmental dictates, Dr. Tapper's history, freedom of choice, and what following God has looked like for Dr. Tapper.
Dr. Tapper and Health Freedom for Humanity have released a movie recently, which can be watched and supported at thetimeisnow.movie
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Welcome to the Ignite: Christian Business Podcast. We’re so glad to have you here with us. Today’s guest is Dr. Ben Tapper, a practicing chiropractic doctor and health freedom advocate. The podcast focuses on the state of affairs concerning governmental dictates, Dr. Tapper's history, freedom of choice, and what following God has looked like for Dr. Tapper. Dr. Tapper and Health Freedom for Humanity have released a movie recently, which can be watched and supported at thetimeisnow.movie You can support Health Freedom for Humanity by heading to https://healthfreedomforhumanity.org/ today. To learn more about Ignite-CB: https://linktr.ee/ignitecb ...more Show the full description Show less Welcome to the Ignite: Christian Business Podcast. We’re so glad to have you here with us.
Today’s guest is Dr. Ben Tapper, a practicing chiropractic doctor and health freedom advocate. The podcast focuses on the state of affairs concerning governmental dictates, Dr. Tapper's history, freedom of choice, and what following God has looked like for Dr. Tapper.
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0:06 Welcome to the Ignite Christian Business Podcast. Today's guest is doctor Ben Tapper. He's a practicing chiropractic doctor and health freedom advocate. You can support doctor Tapper and the Health Freedom for Humanity0:18 initiative by heading to health freedom for humanity dot org today. Stream and support the Time Is Now movie at w w w dot the time is now dot movie. We're inspired by0:30 doctor Tapper's faith, his bravery, and his boldness. We believe you will be too. Let's listen in.0:37 Lord, we just we thank you for this day. Lord, we thank you for what you're doing. Lord, we can't we can't praise you enough because you're the God who cannot fail. Lord, you've0:49 never lost a battle. I thank you for what you're doing in our nation even yet today. Lord, this abortion thing that your hand is on.1:01 Lord, have your way. Stir the hearts of your people. Lord, make us the men that you've called us to be to take that stand. You've given us a voice. Lord, I thank you1:13 for I thank you for Ben for Ben Tapper, Lord. I thank you for him. I I pray a fresh anointing over him, a fresh fire over him. Lord, I thank you for the voice that you've given him.1:26 Lord, make him I thank you for the platform that you've given him. I thank you for his friendship. Give you this time in your name.1:38 Amen.1:39 Amen. Thank you.1:41 Yeah. Wow. Awesome. Guys, thanks for thanks for being are you ready, Ben? Oh, sorry. Yeah. No. You're good. So, guys, thanks for being with us. We're here with
1:53 Ignite Christian Business, and I've got my good friend Ben Tapper's in the house. And, well, I'm so I'm so happy. I'm so pumped. And the thing is with Ben Tapper, there's so many different
2:05 things we can talk about. We can talk about hunting. We can talk about fishing. We can talk about business. We can talk about Jesus. There's so many things that we can talk about. I love this guy. I love his passion.
2:17 But Ben, let me let me just let me let me do this. You as a as as a chiropractor, as a Christian business owner, how long have you been doing
2:29 this? How long have you been out? How long have you been doing what you do? And as a Christian business owner, what does that mean in today's world to you?
2:38 Well, there's a lot. I think it's first and foremost making God the CEO of your company, just relying on him. I've been doing this for, so the clinic that I'm in, I've been there for
2:50 over 10 years, but I've owned it for the last, going on almost, gosh, almost 8 years now. But it's been a journey. It
3:02 definitely has been. When I took over the practice, another chiropractor owned it, and he would just sit me down and every week he would just hammer the numbers with me and say, Why are the numbers low? Why are we
3:12 dippin'? And then we'd have good weeks and we have good months, he'd reward me, but it was basically this never ending just why is this practice not where it should be, and it created a lot of this
3:23 anxiety, a lot of this stress, and we never really talked about God. He wasn't a Christian. He didn't put God as our CEO of the company, and so when I bought it from him 8 years ago,
3:35 I just basically got on my knees and said, God, I'm trusting in you. I cannot do this without you. You are the CEO of my company. I am not gonna stress when the numbers go low. That's not gonna be my main focus. I
3:48 still look at the numbers, but I don't stress about the numbers if we have a bad week, And so it's really letting go of that anxiety and that stress and just trusting that the Lord, good or bad, He's the CEO of the
3:58 company. If He wants the company to fail, that's His will. But I'm gonna be a good steward of the land. I'm gonna do the best I can to serve, and that's really what it means to be
4:10 a Christian is that we're to serve. I changed my mission statement. I had this long mission statement saying, hey, you know the philosophy and science of chiropractic and this great nerdy mission statement, and I had
4:20 that for a few years, but I just boycotted that mission statement, and now it's just to love people, and that's what I do, you know, and I tell my staff that we're here to love people, and that's what it's all about. You
4:32 you build people, people will build the practice, and that applies to any business, to any field you're in. If you build people, they will build the business. They will build the practice.
4:44 Wow, wow. So your father was a chiropractor, correct? Yes, he was, yep.
4:49 Yeah. So and again, the benefits of going to a chiropractor. Give 3 points of the
5:00 benefits of going to a chiropractor.
5:02 Well, chiropractic is the simplest form of healthcare, first and foremost. People have a misconception of what we do. They say that we're not real doctors, that's slanderous in
5:14 itself. Chiropractors, we are doctors of chiropractic, and so basically we focus on the nervous system, trying to optimize that. And so I love chiropractic because the whole philosophy of
5:26 chiropractic, we go in and we look for what we call subluxations, and that's a big fancy word. Sub means below, Lux is a Latin word for light, and ation is condition.
5:38 So think about that from a Christian viewpoint. Subluxation, a condition of a diminished light, and so we know that physical traumas, we know that negative thoughts or emotions and
5:49 chemical toxicities and deficiencies can hinder the ability for the body to express light. I mean if you look at neurological synapses, that's really essentially light is occurring on a microscopic level. I mean, when
6:01 you fight just by the motor activity, we have neurosynapses that are occurring. If we have a hindrance of that neurosynapse, that's a subluxation and so we look for that in the spine. Hippocrates said look to the spine
6:13 first in all disease So we chiropractors, we look for subluxations in the spine. The spinal, basically subluxation causes lack of motion. It causes hypertonicity in the
6:25 tissue. It can cause toxicity to form. So chiropractors, all we do is restore motion. And motion improves function and movement
6:37 in the spine generates about 90 percent of the stimulation and nutrition to the nervous system. The nervous system controls every cell, every tissue, every organ in the body. So why wouldn't we want to optimize that?
6:48 And that's really chiropractic in a nutshell. All we do is restore motion, and that motion improves function, and we do it in a very specific way. I don't like the word manipulation. I mean manipulation's like you got a
7:00 bunch of papers, I'm just gonna manipulate the papers by moving them all around. An adjustment is very specific. We know when and where and what to adjust and adjustments like stacking those papers nice in an orderly
7:11 fashion. So chiropractors, we spend a lot of time in finding those subluxations through x-ray diagnosis and palpation, motion palpation, and we adjust in a very specific way. And so the benefits of
7:22 chiropractic are very important. I come from a family of chiropractors, when I was a freshman in college, got thrown from a truck at 80 miles an hour. We were traveling and I
7:34 was young and dumb, a freshman in college, and we were drinking and we decided to drive home, which was dumb, and we hit a patch of ice going 80 miles an hour, and we didn't have our
7:46 seat belts on. It was February second, it was 5 degrees outside. I was in a t shirt, and the truck hit a 180, we barrel rolled in a cornfield, And I hit my face on the windshield, and I bust the windshield out in my
7:56 face. I broke my nose. I had nerve damage in my nose, and I got thrown from the passenger side window. And I remember hitting the ground, bam. And I hit the ground,
8:09 and I remember coming to, and I thought I was paralyzed. I wiggled my toes, and I remember thanking the Lord that I wasn't paralyzed, and I sat up, and I ran over to the truck which was about
8:21 50 feet from me on its side, and mind you, we were in the middle of a cornfield. Okay, and I remember running over to the other side of the truck. My best friend at time, he was unconscious, laying on his back, and I was
8:32 talking to him, and like, you know, just praying that he'd come to you, and he's like, don't touch me. My neck's broken. And so then I saw these headlights coming, it was a state patrolman, and he was patrolling that
8:44 highway because there was 3 other accidents that same highway, and each 1 had a fatality except for ours in that accident. So I knew God saved my life, and I remember when the patrolman came over, I
8:56 remember just hitting the ground and blood was just pouring out of my face. Like I had cuts. My mouth was bloody. I had my broken nose. I had cuts in my scalp because I got thrown from the pedestrian
9:08 window. I had 1 pant leg on because when I got ejected the glass or something caught my pants and it took my shoe and my 1 pant leg. Wow. And so when I got to the hospital
9:20 they said, you're lucky to be alive, you're lucky to even be here, but they said, you're not gonna be able to play sports and be active and do the things you used to do because you damage your spine.
9:33 So I became my diagnosis. I lived that way for 6 to 7 years. I became very depressed. I had the worst heartburn. I had constant pain
9:45 in my back. And I went to a chiropractor by the name of Doctor. Burns in Illinois, and he took a full x-ray on me, and he said, Man, you had quite the accident. I said, Yes, I did, and he put me on
9:57 a corrective care plan, and he adjusted in my spine, and it felt like he removed a rock in my shoe that I didn't know was there. Wow. Now I'm preaching it. Yeah. But that's
10:09 why I tell patients, don't become your diagnosis. Medicine serves a great purpose. Thank God for allopathic care. I mean, are the masters of urgent care and
10:21 trauma care and emergency care. But we are turning a blind eye to wellness care. It's kind of like, you know, it's like the way the illustration is of, know, thank God for firefighters when your house
10:33 is on fire, but now we need to rebuild that house. We need the carpenters. We need the plumbers. We need electricians, and that's kind of where I view chiropractors. We're the wellness doctors. We're the wellness
10:41 practitioners. We need to thank God for the firefighters and the trauma care, but we need wellness care, and big pharma has overstepped their scope of practice, and they're perverting what it means
10:53 to be healthy, and so we have drug commercials on the television and there's a moral issue there. We're not advertising a Ford F-one hundred 50, we're advertising pharmaceutical grade drugs
11:04 that should be prescribed by a physician, and your condition really warrants the prescribing of that so, but going back to, you know, my story, it's, you know, I
11:16 just tell patients, don't become your diagnosis. You know, it's not a death sentence. You know, your body is meant to be self healing. God designed your body to be self healing, self regulating. Your body's a temple.
11:28 It wants to heal. We just have to remove the obstructions to healing, thus facilitating it.
11:33 Yeah. Exactly.
11:35 And you know, that's what it's all about. And you know, disease means away from ease. You know, disease is a disturbed condition. It's not a thing or entity. It's just disturbed condition.
11:45 Yeah, and 1 of the things that I found with business owners, we get so busy, and that's why I was so excited to have you at the Ignite Conference and you
11:57 and Doctor. Ronnie as well. But we forget or we get so busy, we get caught up in our work and we forget the health, how important that And
12:12 that's why I was so pumped to have you, but yet, you know, when I go to, you know, he's my chiropractor as well, but when I go to you, it's like
12:22 there's different issues that I have and going to a chiropractor, gosh, like it takes those pains away.
12:34 It takes, but even though you're somewhat working on my back, yet it affects every part, and I think there's such an importance there.
12:46 Oh, absolutely. I mean, the spine, just from a vertebral standpoint, the spine protects the nervous system. I mean, that's why God created the nervous system.
12:58 It's the first thing in the womb to be developed. It's the master control center, and if you look at that, I mean, God designed these bones to protect that whole system. I mean, it's so well protected. It's armored. If
13:09 you look just from anatomy standpoint, it's armored around the nervous system. It's there to protect it, and so, you know, chiropractors, we look to that area and we restore by putting motion back in there. It's just
13:21 like the same thing in the house. House is wired and you go to the fuse box and if your lights go out in the laundry room, you just don't hit the switch constantly over and over and over. You go to the fuse box and flip
13:32 the breaker. Chiropractic's the same way. The neurology from the spine, all the nerves to your cell tissue organ, you can trace it right back to the spine. You know what mean? That's interesting.
13:42 Yeah. I love that analogy. You know, just just today, I was in a men's group earlier earlier on today, we're talking about wisdom. And in in Proverbs 3,
13:56 in verse in verse 5, talking talking about wisdom. Trust in the Lord completely and do not rely on your own opinions. With all your heart, rely on him
14:08 to guide you. He will lead you in every decision you make. Become intimate with him in whatever you do and he will lead you wherever you go. Don't think
14:20 for a moment that you know it all for wisdom comes for when you adore him with undivided devotion and avoid anything that's wrong. Then you will find
14:32 the healing refreshment your body and spirit long for. Glorify God with all your wealth, honoring him with your very best. And I
14:45 couldn't help but as as we were as we were going through this, you know, wisdom, talking about wisdom, I knew you were coming in today, and I just thought, I love your passion
14:56 for seeking truth. Not only in health, but in every area. And Ben, you've gotten down, and I love what
15:08 God has, where he's got you with this vaccine, basically that whole area that's become so politicized and can be so,
15:21 it's gotten so corrupt. Mhmm. And I think about some of the things that you've talked about and some of the things that have happened to you, but the biggest thing
15:33 I see in you is this passion. Why the passion? Where does that come from?
15:39 Well, like I said, I mean, I feel called to be in this fight. I mean, do believe it's from the Lord, and so I tell people that, you know, I've had these convictions that
15:51 were just brewing over the years, and God has me in a unique position, whether you're pro vaccine or anti vaccine. We need truth. We need to know the truth. We need
16:03 informed consent with any medical procedure. We need true, informed consent. We need to make good decisions, and that's the whole point of informed consent. You need to be informed of what you're getting yourself into,
16:14 good or bad, and with anything, okay? Chiropractic even, but my dad had spoke out against the corruption with the vaccine industry
16:26 for many years. He had information and it was being censored and shadow banned even back in the 70s, So it caused a massive wedge in the
16:38 family, and so early on my dad would basically talk to me about this, and I really didn't understand it when I was young, but he passed the baton onto me at an early age basically, and so I had this understanding,
16:49 and I would look at both sides. I'd look at all the research, but this conviction that I had definitely grew, and I would talk to my wife, and I would talk to close friends of mine, and said, God, I just feel like God is
16:59 calling me for a much bigger purpose than my office or even I just feel this calling that is like I just couldn't put my finger on it. I just knew that it was from the Holy
17:11 Spirit. I knew that God was prepping me for something, and even in 20 17, we started Nebraska's for Medical Freedom, and we would talk about
17:23 the bills coming our way, and we kept a close eye on the legislation. Most people didn't even have a clue what was coming our way with the bills, and we had bills sweeping the nation to come after your right to refuse
17:34 any vaccine, and so that was very scary. Basically in 20 19, we had a lot of things coming our way with the World Health Organization saying that the greatest threat to our
17:45 health are those who refuse vaccinations. We had the ACIP, is a subdivision of the CDC, the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices. They said they can't force vaccinate, but they can force compliance, and they're
17:56 setting the stage for 20 20. It was almost like they knew something was coming. And so, you know what, and I was vocal about it, but I was coming from a clinical standpoint that we need
18:07 to, in any pandemic, we can't neglect our health, and we can't just rely on a vaccine to think that that's gonna provide us all the health we need. We need to eat well. We need to move
18:18 well. We need to think well. We need to pray well, and we need to respect the body, and the body will adapt to the stresses that it's under, good or bad. And so, early
18:30 on I talked about vitamin D supplementation. I said a lot of respiratory pneumonia cases, the common denominator is a deficiency in vitamin D. We're in Nebraska, we don't get that 30 minutes of summer sunlight
18:42 in the wintertime. Most of us are deficient and blood work and lab works can prove that and so I talked about that and that was not allowed. Social media, deleted us
18:54 off social media platforms just because I was talking about vitamin D supplementation. It was counter narrative and a lot of the local institutions here said that vitamin D
19:06 is toxic in certain amounts, and they said there's nothing you can do naturally to fight this virus, and I thought that was criminal. I said, There's always prayer, and the grace of
19:18 physicians will never use fear to coerce patients to take a medical procedure. 1 of my great mentors said that fear is the fire that fuels the furnace of disease, and
19:30 God did not give us a spirit of fear, and that's why I think this whole thing is spiritual and psychological warfare on the people because we're not, you know, it's 1 thing to be concerned and wise, especially when it
19:40 comes to a virus and a pandemic, but we need to, in the Bible, and when we have a true pandemic, need to cling to Christ and rely on Him. During the Spanish flu, the frontline
19:52 so called workers were the Christians. They were there. They weren't afraid. They weren't masked up. They were putting their hands on people with the Spanish flu, and they were praying for them. That's what we need to do
20:03 as Christians. We need to show not fear, but we need to give hope. We need to put prayer on these people, but that was not allowed during this pandemic, and that's where I thought it was criminal. So
20:15 that's again my convictions. Yes, it's health, but it's also not to live in fear. That we have a God that's in control, that we can't just abandon Him and
20:26 think, and just rely solely on the vaccine.
20:29 So, Ben, how did we get so far from the lack of knowledge, and I don't wanna say understanding,
20:41 but even understanding, how do we get so far away? How we get to the point where we rely so much on government to rule and reign in our lives?
20:51 Well, first of all, it's when you start believing the bumper sticker slogans of like the science is settled. If you believe that, then we're not gonna have a dialogue about it. You're not allowed to question it because
21:01 the science is settled. Science is never settled. Science is observational. We learn through experimentation and through observation, the lens of observation. We need to have dialogue. Science welcomes dialogue. Science
21:11 welcomes having a conversation and science welcomes questions. It's right to question it. If you're not allowed to question science, that's not science at all. That's indoctrination, that's an agenda, that's coercion,
21:23 that's whatever you want to call it, it's evil. Science is having a dialogue and this whole thing, even with the vaccine, pro or anti, I don't care what stance you're on, it's like we should be allowed to talk
21:35 about it. But it has become 1 of those topics like, don't talk about politics or sex or vaccines. That's off the table because we want to be politically correct, and that's why
21:47 we have corrupt politicians, that's why we have more divorce now than ever before, and now that's why we have this issue with vaccines that they think that that's the only way for help, to achieve health.
21:56 And if we don't talk about it, and then all of a sudden you have a, and you can correct me here because I can't remember isn't it like 50
22:09 percent of the coronavirus deaths that occur right now, 50 percent of them aren't they vaccinated? Well,
22:20 here's the thing. I don't trust any of the data first and foremost. You can't rely on the data, you can't rely on those percentages, and it's like, I would argue that it's extremely higher than that because
22:33 the only people that are dying are in the hospitals, first and foremost. You don't hear people dying outside the hospitals, but even the adverse reaction like Tom Rents, an attorney, suing the CDC right
22:45 now because the VAERS reports had like 50000 deaths, and that number, that was last year, or earlier this year from the vaccine. So yes, the death count and the reports that we're hearing,
22:57 the people dying of Corona, yeah, most of them are vaccinated. I mean, look at the Israel study that came out. They said that the natural immunity is far greater than the artificial vaccine induced immunity. I mean,
23:08 that's the thing. We think that literally that the body is deficient or flawed and that natural immunity doesn't exist, and that's the elephant in the room. How many people had COVID and recovered just fine without the
23:19 vaccine than those that had the vaccine? The vaccine doesn't stop anything, so why get it? And if you got the vaccine, then why are you afraid of those that haven't received
23:32 And so those are some questions that we need to ask. Exactly. And they can't answer those questions. And so there's just so many holes in the story, and even the death reporting numbers,
23:45 there was a lot of manipulation of data occurring there. I follow the National Rapid Reporting System for the CDC and I have been for over a decade and I saw manipulation of data with influenza cases. And that's been the
23:57 case for over 10 years. There's so many manipulation of data pushing influenza vaccine. They always put the death rate in there and they just combine it with both types of
24:08 pneumonia and they combine it with comorbidities and they combine it with, or I'm sorry, they don't talk about the comorbidities, nor do they differentiate between the strains of influenza, nor do they differentiate
24:19 between the types of pneumonia. They just combine it all in 1 number to give the illusion that influenza is a massive killer, and that's the number that the public will see, and the news will say, Hey, 80000 people died
24:30 of influenza in 20 18, but they failed to mention that there's comorbidities associated with those deaths, that 90 percent of deaths occur in the elderly, they're on 13 plus medications, and so there's all these things
24:40 that really do matter. Those points do matter. I mean, because all those pharmaceuticals can cause the death or the comorbidities can cause the death. And so we saw that same pattern with Corona early on in 20 20.
24:52 All the deaths that were associated with, they were comorbidities, 90 plus percent of them were in the elderly, they're on multiple medications, and we weren't hearing those stats, but influenza just up and disappeared,
25:04 and that doesn't just happen. We renamed the flu essentially, and again there was so much manipulation with that. 1 of my friends, her dad
25:16 has a business here, and he will pick up dead bodies, right? So somebody has to do that. It's a very honorable thing. If someone passes away, someone has to go take care of the body and deliver it to the mortuary, so
25:27 that's his business, but last year there was a suicide and he picked up the body. Well, they tested the body for Corona, and he tested positive for Corona, and they labeled his death as
25:39 COVID-nineteen, and there was obvious other causes of death. So what does that tell you? And he came to me and he said, I was bought into this thing, I was fearful till that
25:50 happened, and he said, what the heck? He said, then I started really just questioning things, and God just like opened my eyes to this whole narrative, and he said, now it's clear as day
26:02 that there's an agenda being pushed on the people, and so I don't like going down the rabbit hole or be a conspiracy, but we have to have a sound mind, and we have to
26:14 use common sense here, which I feel like sometimes common sense is not so common, But we need to have a mind like Christ. We need to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves here and not be fearful. I think fear
26:26 will cloud our judgment. Yeah. You know, and I'm real big on words. Corona, the whole meaning is crowned, means crown, and God says, Fear God while we have a loving God, and what does that mean? It means
26:38 to surrender to Him, to Him alone, not to cower to any threat or cower to any earthly master or bend to any threat. It means we need to surrender to Him, God and Christ
26:50 alone. And so when we surrender and give fear to that caliber to corona and everything else, I mean, look at the people are so afraid of dying. They're not living.
27:02 Especially they're not living the will that God has for them, and as Christians we must not fear any earthly master, but we need to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. We
27:14 can't neglect our health and put ourselves in harm's way, but we must not be afraid.
27:20 Even as business owners and business leaders, there's so many, the knowledge that we have to have, and correct the wisdom that we need, because there's these decisions that are gonna have to be
27:32 made at
27:33 some point.
27:35 Far as, what is it now, businesses over a certain amount, 100 employees, are you going to have to mandate
27:47 those guys to be vaccinated and those type of things? It's so important. It's so important. Again, even in my own life, I think you just kind of put things on the
27:59 back burner and just kind of just say, Oh, it'll take care of itself. And I think we've gotten in a position now where we need to find out some of these
28:11 things. We need to seek wisdom, seek truth, and I love what you're doing, and 1 of the times that we were at a meeting together, you
28:23 and I, or you were speaking at it, and your kids were in the crowd. I think your whole family was and because you're taking a lot of heat.
28:35 Oh, yeah. You're taking a lot of heat and you brought your kids up on stage and it really hit home with me because you said, this is why I'm doing
28:47 what I do. It's not for me, it's not even for our generation. It's for these guys. Amen. And I wanna appreciate that because
28:59 even myself, it's really changed my thinking because it is about our kids And now in my life, it's about my grandkids. Oh, yeah. And want
29:11 them to have some of the pleasures that I've had that you and I've been able to have and to be able to hunt, to be able to fish, and do do some of these great things.
29:23 I think I think if we get if we take our eyes off the off of off of truth, I think we can get in into a really bad place real real quick. Amen.
29:36 Ben, explain some of the not that we need to go down certain things, I think it's important that people know some of the things that have happened to you
29:47 and the resistance that up against. Obviously there's a reason for it, but what's some of the things that have happened to you? Well,
29:59 so
30:03 first and foremost, this whole thing was just ramping up. It was just growing and growing. Convictions were growing. Frustrations were growing. I just felt
30:14 like this need to get more involved. The world's getting crazier. Well, I spoke last, so it was August of 20 20. I spoke at the city council,
30:26 and it was filled with people, and there were probably about maybe 15 physicians sitting directly to my right. And they
30:38 basically were there, and I was the only doctor in opposition. And I went to the restroom, and I was just praying, Lord, give me the words to say. Give me the words to say.
30:50 Turn me into a lion. Turn me into a lion. I kept praying this over and over and over. And when I was in the restroom, you know, I'm not saying God gave me a vision Mhmm. But it sure seemed that way because I
31:02 just was taken by surprise, and I was just, like, daydreaming of David and Goliath. And I remember just, you know, literally
31:13 feeling just like God just put that right on my heart, I went down there and I spoke. Well, I spoke with conviction and passion. They gave all those doctors all the time in the world to speak.
31:25 I had 3 minutes. Wow. So, I went down there and I spoke, and I spoke with a lot of passion and Within 24 hours of that video being uploaded on
31:37 social media, it had 3000000 views. It went around the world. Wow. God answered prayer in a big way. Wow. And, that's when a lot of the persecution started.
31:45 Mhmm. Boom. Mhmm.
31:47 I had people calling my office. You know, a lot of people I don't like the negative few ruin the positive many. Yeah. You know, but for every negative 1, had 1000
31:58 positive. K? But the negatives were always there. Right? I had people I have had death threats. I have people hack my phone. My phone is still hacked. I I had to download this
32:10 robot app because I get about 1000 text messages a day. Just like a computer. I need to change my phone number. My wife's phone got hacked. I've had my truck vandalized and my home broken into. I've
32:22 had posters left in my office. I've had negative reviews sent. None of them were patients. What's in my office smelled like a cucumber. K? Like, does it really smell like a cucumber?
32:33 But but, anyway, all these negative things were coming my way and, you know, and But I just I look in first Peter 4, like, you know, b, a, if God gives you
32:45 the gift to speak, speak as though God is speaking through you. Mhmm. Also, find a great joy when you are persecuted because we are partnered with Christ. Yeah. K? So, all this is confirmation that I Okay. I'm clinging
32:57 to you, Lord. Mhmm. K? And, you know, I know this is spiritual. I know this is there's big things coming our way. We're in a spiritual warfare. Yeah. I know. Because, you know, after I spoke in August, I
33:09 couldn't sleep for 5 nights.
33:11 Mhmm.
33:11 I was tossing and turning, just wrestling. Like, what did I do? Did I do the right thing? And I was just kinda almost questioning God. Yeah. K? Well, I I remember waking up. A lot of things happened during that week
33:22 because I woke up, and I just remember, like, almost being reminded of a prayer that I prayed many times. Like, God, shine a light on this vaccine corruption. Shine a light on this whole
33:34 thing. And I remember, like, I didn't hear God's worst words, but I felt them. And it was like, be careful what you pray for because I'll use you to answer that prayer. Wow. And so Wow. And then, you
33:46 know, I I kept seeing at the office, people kept calling me, you're a watchman. You're a watchman. You know? And, you know, 100 years ago, we had vaccine watchmen, about the experimental influenza vaccine during Spanish
33:57 flu. You know, there was Christians that were speaking out against it 100 years ago, they called them vaccine watchmen. Well, people kept calling me a watchman. I didn't even know what the word meant. You know? And and
34:05 so my wife sent me an article about a centennial bird, how the centennials will sound the alarm even though they know a predator's coming, they'll sound that alarm even though it'll put that, himself in
34:16 danger, knowing full well that it's gonna die, and it'll sound the alarm to let the others know to get out of the way Mhmm. Because there's a predator coming, and eventually, that centennial bird will die, and that's a
34:28 watchman in the in the in in the wild. Well, God calls us to sound the alarm during things. Yeah. I feel like, you know, maybe he did make me a watchman, but I'm not I don't wanna claim that title, but, you
34:40 know, people were calling me that. Well, I was daydreaming. Like, I had almost, like, another daydream in my office. I kept seeing lighthouses everywhere. I kept seeing them. Like, in my mind, I kept seeing them, and I
34:51 kept I feel like I was just putting these lighthouses on my mind and my thoughts. And I remember daydreaming about walking in I was in my mom and dad's house when I was young, daydreaming. I'm in my office, but I'm
35:00 seeing this. Like, I could see lighthouses everywhere. And it was just very bizarre. And I go to my phone, and I have a text from a kid in ministry that lives in Texas. And he said, watch making me
35:12 classified as lighthouses. They stand their ground in the midst of the storm, bringing light to the darkness and hope to the hopeless, and they you know? And I thought that was pretty powerful. And then the next day,
35:22 kept seeing polystrate fossils. You know, I kept seeing polystrate fossils everywhere, and and, I was like, what is going on with this? You know? And and, basically, the polystrate fossils are fossilized tree in the rock
35:34 layers, and they're they're they're found everywhere in the rock layers. Well, God said you're a polystrate fossil. You need to gather the other polystrate fossils. Yeah. And the tree is there, and it's it's it was
35:43 fossilized while still alive in the middle of the rock layers. Mhmm. Okay. The rock layers are going 1 way and the tree is perpendicular. Well, if that tree was fossilized with the rock layers, it'd be horizontal. Mhmm.
35:53 K? Well, you know, that tree was buried rapidly while still alive. That means that those rock layers weren't formed over billions and billions of years ago. But the point is God said that trees are resembling truth. You
36:05 need to be stand your ground and be solidified in me like stone and and and have, you know, truth and integrity like stone, basically, and and Yeah. Resembling truth. And I thought that was pretty
36:16 Wow. Pretty powerful. But but anyway Wow. So that happened. And and then shortly after that, I got labeled the so called disinformation dozen. And and I think that's, like, this ramping up of persecution,Show more
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