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Chip Ingram is an American Christian pastor, author, and teacher. He is the founder, teaching pastor and CEO of Living on the Edge, an international teaching and discipleship ministry.
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0:11 Are you concerned about your children and grandchildren as our world becomes increasingly hostile to Christianity? Do you wonder why 70 percent of our youth are leaving the church 5 years after0:23 high school and what we can do about it? If so, stay with me. There's real hope and real answers on the way.0:32 Welcome to this edition of Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. The mission of these daily programs is to intentionally disciple Christians through the Bible teaching of Chip Ingram. I'm Dave Drewey, and in just a0:43 minute, we'll begin 1 of our more popular series, Why I Believe, Straight Answers to Honest Questions about God, the Bible, and Christianity. For the next several programs, Chip's gonna tackle issues like creation0:55 versus evolution, the validity of the Bible, life after death, and why there's only 1 true God. So to help you get the most out of this series, let me encourage you to download Chip's message notes. They contain his1:07 outline, scripture references, and much more. Get up by going to the broadcasts tab at living on the edge dot org. App listeners, tap fill in notes. Well, with all that said, let's get to Chip as he kicks1:19 off his series with his message, rethinking apologetics in the 20 first century.1:25 We are living in a day of a tectonic shift in our culture that has greatly impacted the church. I don't know about you, but we are living in a day where evil is called good.1:37 Where good is called evil. We're living in a day where bitter is called sweet and sweet is called bitter. Darkness is called light and light is called darkness. And according to the ancient prophet1:48 Isaiah, 2700 years ago, he said, when this happens, it brings great great sorrow. I know many of you have to be deeply, deeply concerned of what you're seeing happen in2:00 the culture and also happening in the church. We're seeing young people that don't walk with God anymore. We're seeing the moral values in the culture and outside the church rapidly, rapidly change. And we're in this2:12 series here called Why I Believe, and I believe we're in a day where we have to rethink our apologetics. You know, apologetics is that big word that's about making a defense for our faith. It it's2:24 giving a a reasoned verbal explanation for why we believe, and and we can explain this great hope that we have within us. But as you can see, and as I observe as I go around the country,2:36 I meet parents and I meet grandparents who say to me, you know, we went to church regularly. We sent our children even to a Christian school, or we sent them to a Christian university, or a or a good secular university2:48 with that had a good Christian group. And it's now 5 or 7 years later, they don't share our morals. They don't share our values. They currently are living some with someone. I mean, the world is3:00 topsy-turvy, and here's what I wanna tell you. Our approach to apologetics, that this is why I believe, this is what I believe, it's got to change.3:12 Because honestly, what we've passed on to our children and what's being passed on through the church at large, with some really wonderful exceptions, it's currently not working. You know, let me tell you what sort3:24 of the classic approach to apologetics is, because it had a very powerful and good impact in my life. I did not grow up as a Christian, I had never opened the Bible in my life, I came to Christ right3:35 before I went away to college, and then I had a wonderful experience. I mean, it was a a campus ministry that grew. I got in the Bible. I mean, my life changed. I had deep loving relationships. I had peace and3:47 joy. My life changed so much, my dad, who was a hardcore alcoholic, asked me, what in the world happened to you? And I told him about this new relationship with Jesus. And I was reading the New Testament, and my father3:59 trusted Christ. Our whole family, I mean it was it was a revolution, it was awesome. And I graduated, and I was a really good student, and the chairman of my department, I really admired him, and I think he really4:11 liked and kinda admired me. And I was ready to graduate, and and I, you know, graduated with honors and and good things like that. And he had white hair, and he was really bright, and I really4:23 admired kinda what he thought in his opinion. And I could tell that he waited until I graduated because he wanted to ask me a question that might put our relationship at stake. And so I was ready4:35 to walk across the stage, you know, like in a day or so, and and all the coursework is done, And I'll never forget this. I mean, this was like 1 of those pictures in my mind, doctor p with his snow white hair, and4:47 his arms crossed, and the light was coming. It was a brick building that had ivy. And he tilted his head, and he said, Chip, can I ask you a question? I said, sure, doctor p. He said, I just don't understand4:59 how someone who appears to be as intellectually astute as you are could actually believe in a literal Jesus and this born again stuff and that the Bible is really God's word. And then he5:10 followed that by asking me 3 or 4 rather challenging questions about my faith. How could I trust the Bible and could Jesus be the only way and isn't that narrow, etcetera, etcetera. And5:22 it shook me. In fact, I'm gonna go on record to say that it's not bad to have some doubts as a follower of Christ. It's not bad to to get shaken now and then and realize I need to really think through what I believe and5:34 why. And I came away from that experience with 3 convictions. Number 1, is I was not gonna throw my brains in the trash to follow Christ. Yeah. I mean, this is a man I respected and5:46 and you know what? It wasn't just I had this emotional experience and had this great college experience. If that was just a little window of you know being idealistic, then it's gotta measure up to the truth.5:57 Second, I'm not gonna let someone I admire who's very very smart intimidate me to give up my faith. And third, I made a commitment that I'm gonna dig in. And whatever it takes, I6:09 am going to learn the questions he asked me about the Bible, about the uniqueness of Christ, archaeology, science. I'm gonna focus and do whatever it takes and I'm gonna do the research. And then I'll let the6:21 chips fall where they may. I mean, if if God's word and my faith can't hold up to scientific, archaeological, philosophical research, then I'll give up my faith. But if it does, then I will know this is6:33 really true. And really, the teaching in this series and the book that I wrote called Why I Believe is the culmination of that journey. And what I can tell you is is that I've defended my faith in front of 46:45 PhDs. I've had the privilege of going around the world in different religions and philosophies, and here's my joy and here's my desire for you. You can trust God's word. You can trust6:56 the person of Christ, But we have to rethink how we communicate this and what our apologetic is. But now, have to tell you an experience that I had not too long ago. I was teaching7:08 on controversial subjects because, I mean, the morals have changed in America and and the sort of lifestyles LGBTQ and and marriage and all these things are up for grabs. And7:20 I was teaching at our church about what the Bible says about homosexuality. And what it says about marriage and and I remember a little 15 year old girl came up to me and she's a I mean a sweet7:32 girl. She loves God. I think she even went to our Christian school. I know her parents, very very good people. But she's grown up in a completely different culture. And she came up to me and she7:43 said, know, pastor Chip, I heard what you said. I know what the Bible actually says about homosexuality. I know you7:55 believe in the authority of scripture and all those things. I want you to know I love Jesus with all my heart, but I wanna tell you something. If you're asking me to tell my friend who's gay that she's8:07 wrong or give up my faith, I'm gonna give up my faith. And and I mean literally my mind was going, what? What? In other words,8:19 I grew up and and many of you have grown up in a world that there's logic, there's authority, there's the Bible, this is what it says, this is But she's grown up in a world when she has to choose between8:31 relationship and truth. Absolute truth. She's lived in a world where you don't validate things by what the Bible says. You don't validate things by a person8:42 in authority like myself. You validate it out of relationship and your experience. So here's what I wanna tell you. The apologetics of the past have to be8:54 completely revised. We don't give up on all those reasons. I'm gonna share some of those reasons. I'm gonna help you understand why you can trust the Bible, why you can believe in the resurrection, why the God of the9:05 Bible is the most logical, clear. I mean, it answers the biggest questions of life. But I'm gonna tell you, we can't keep doing it the way we're doing it because look at the evidence. I mean, ask9:17 yourself, how is it going? The culture's changing, the world is changing, how is the church doing? Let me give you some of the bad news. And I don't mean to be negative,9:29 but if you need awakened, then let's get awakened. Our rational answering of questions simply isn't working in our day. What's the public view of Christians right now?9:41 Hypocrites, sexual scandals in the Catholic church for decades followed by cover up. Sexual scandals in evangelical, bible churches, Southern Baptist churches, major mega9:52 church pastors after decades of quote effective ministry now found out to have private lives. People are looking at Christianity and saying, we think you're bigoted, we think you're10:04 prejudiced, we think you're irrelevant, we think you're intolerant, we think you're the problem. The LGBTQ has very effectively reframed the entire argument, not10:16 around we have a sexual preference, but as a civil rights issue. And now Christians in our day are viewed as bigoted and prejudiced,10:28 and so there's this anti Christian bias and it's popping up everywhere. A businessman in the Silicon Valley who was 1 of the founders of a major organization gave 1000 dollars10:39 to a cause, not putting anyone down, simply saying that I believe historically that marriage is between a man and a woman. That went viral on social media and he was ousted in his company.10:53 Companies like Chick fil A that close on Sundays, who are loving and kind and care about people, but who basically just hold to a traditional concept of marriage have now been moved off and outlawed in11:05 major cities like San Antonio or in universities. We're living in a world where giving logical answers to our kids and to our neighbors and to our friends no11:17 longer holds water. Christians are viewed in a very negative light.11:22 You're listening to Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram, and Chip will be right back to finish his message. Quickly though, we want you to know that we have a great way for you to access all of the teaching here at11:34 Living on the Edge with the Chip Ingram app. You can access daily programs, Chip's message notes, and much more. Well now let's get back to today's message.11:44 In the church, here's the changes. Currently, church attendance is down, bible engagement is down. The moral decline, 60 percent of evangelical bible11:55 believing believers between the ages of 18 and 30 are currently in casual sex or sleeping together. Giving is at an all time low financially. Per capita, it actually those during12:07 the depression gave more generously than today, and that tells us something has happened to Christians hearts. Families are fractured. Divorce is about the same in the Christian community as the non Christian community.12:20 We find that 68 percent of our children 5 years after they leave high school are abandoning the faith. I mean, I could go on and on and on. We have the highest level of people who12:32 have no religious affiliation. Of those under 35, it's like 25, 30 percent of them have no religious affiliation, and generation z, those coming up, literally, they12:43 don't know God, they don't know the Bible, and Christianity is currently to them irrelevant. I mean, these are big big issues. It's gonna take more12:55 than opening the Bible and telling your kids, or sitting down with a friend over a coffee and telling them, here's the 5 or 6 intellectual reasons why I believe in God's word or why I13:07 believe Jesus is the savior of the world. It's gonna take a bit of a different apologetic. We are much more like the first century than we are the last century. And what I mean by that is that many of13:19 us have grown up for quite a while where the culture agreed with what we believed. You know, it supported it. The major institutions supported it. And now we're living in a world that is more and more and13:31 more anti Christian. So here's what I wanna suggest. I wanna suggest that we rethink because of the change in the culture, are apologetic.13:43 Yesterday, apologetics were about what we believe and why. And it was aimed at answering the skeptic and his questions or her questions. Today, ready for this? I believe we13:55 need to aim apologetics first and foremost toward believers, especially young people. Aim at answering the questions that equip them to keep their faith. Second,14:07 yesterday we needed to master facts and data and history to intellectually prove what we believe is true. Today, we need to model concern and compassionate and a lifestyle that14:19 proves that what we actually believe is even relevant. Third, yesterday we needed to win the debate. In fact, remember the day when, you know, evangelicals and atheists would debate. No 114:31 even wants to hear a debate. Today, we need to win an audience. We need to live in such a way where people are asking us, how do you have a marriage like that? And how do your kids turn out like that? And how14:43 do you handle the adversity coming your way with such an amazing, kind, and loving attitude? Fourth, yesterday we communicated on a level playing field that presumed that truth was objective14:55 reality. Today we communicate on the shifting sands of truth as a subjective reality. You know, I told you that story of that high school girl. What I want you to know is15:07 that this whole next generation and millennials, they look at life through different glasses. They don't look at facts and say, well, these are 3 facts, and these are logical,15:19 and therefore, this is right and that is wrong. They're evaluating truth not as an absolute, but something that's relative. And it's why the experience of the collective group,15:30 it's what they feel. That's your truth. That's my truth. And so now, as you begin to talk to people, I can I can give them 5 or 6 good reasons or scientific15:42 facts, and the response is, that's your truth? That's not my truth. Recently, a lady who I really admire, her name is15:54 Rosario Butterfield, and she was a teacher in elite school. She was a lesbian, and she made friends with a pastor. And he invited her over for dinner. I I don't mean just a few dinners, but16:06 it was months and months, and then a couple years. And she often left, and she said it disturbed me. We disagreed about the homosexual lifestyle. We disagreed about truth and epistemology and how you come at16:17 truth. And she was a literature professor and very very very bright. But she says, as they love me and love me and love me and I begin to examine what I believed and why. I began to16:29 understand, God began to move in my heart. And so she goes to this prestigious university and she shares her testimony. And if I gave you the name of it, most of you would say, wow, are you kidding? I16:41 mean, it's 1 of the elite, sort of the the Harvard's of Christianity. And when she got done, students protested. And here's what you need to get. They protested and the sign said,16:52 that's just your story. So so what I want you to understand is is that it's a whole different world and just facts, the shifting sand of relative truth means our apologetic17:04 and our way to do our apologetic has to change. Fifth, yesterday the church and the culture shared a general knowledge of the Bible. I mean you could talk about Adam and Eve or Noah or Jonah or Jesus or17:16 a few of his stories and people would go, yeah, I got you. Today, both the church and the world is biblically illiterate. I've had the privilege of teaching literally all across America and17:28 multiple places around the world. And I can't start anymore and assume that people know even the general idea of scripture. It causes us to start at a different starting point.17:40 Sixth, a committed Christian man or woman in the past and yesterday was admired. You know, she's a woman of integrity. He's a man who loves God. He's a man who leads his family well. I mean,17:52 that's the kind of person you wanna be. Today, a strongly committed man or woman has actually been called dangerous. Recently, they were doing some appointments for court positions of very18:03 significant roles, and they had senate hearings, and a couple senators came out. There was a lady who was a strong candidate, and she happened to be a devout Catholic, and she had very clear views on the life of the18:15 unborn. And it was just that no, I believe life begins at conception. I mean the science is in. Even Planned Parenthood when they they don't talk about a fetus anymore, they talk about a baby.18:27 And and 2 senators in our country in America said, this lady cannot be a judge in our court system because of her dangerous ideas.18:39 It's a dangerous idea in America, in our day to believe that an unborn child's life should be protected. Think of how much has changed in our world.18:52 Seventh, we used to be able to begin with the truth and then express grace. I mean, people believed that truth was absolute and we would say, this is right and this is wrong. Today,19:04 we must begin with grace in order to share the truth. What I want you to know is that the apologetic has to start with how you live and how you treat people and that we actually make an impact and we19:16 actually demonstrate that we deeply, deeply care. It's not about a a competing philosophy anymore. No 1 wants to hear what the Bible says or anything about Jesus until they see a19:28 life that's attractive, that's loving, that's caring.19:35 Chip will be back in just a minute with his application. You've been listening to the first part of his message, Rethinking Apologetics for the 20 First Century from his series, Why I Believe. Now as you may or may not19:46 know, there's actually a lot of solid verifiable evidence that supports Jesus' existence and his ministry. The real challenge is articulating that and other biblical truths to those who genuinely wanna know19:58 more. So how do we do that? Well, this series, Chip shares ways we can effectively and winsomely answer honest questions about our faith that'll attract people to the gospel, not repel them from it. For more20:10 information about why I believe or our resources, go to living on the edge dot org, the Chip Ingram app, or call triple 8 3 3 3 6 0 0 3. Chip's with20:22 me in studio now. And, Chip, you know, I don't think I've ever heard you more passionate about a particular series than this 1. Share with us, if you will, what's behind that.20:31 I think first, Dave, this was a real challenge to me personally. It was a number of years ago, and the issues were quite different. But I had to have a faith where I didn't throw my brains in the trash.20:42 And so, at an early age, working through these issues was very important. I think the second reason why I'm so passionate today is the world has changed, and apologetics needs to20:54 be refined. It's completely different this time around with our own children and grandchildren. I mean, the rules have changed. The right answers and the facts and the research alone, they just don't suffice21:06 anymore.21:07 That's so true, Chip. So what are you hoping to accomplish through this series?21:12 Well, 3 things. 1, I wanna help parents, pastors, and grandparents, and literally youth workers understand that it's a whole new world, and it requires a different approach to apologetics.21:24 The second thing I want to do is create a resource to help them first understand, and then second, help their kids own their own faith in a way that it comes from their heart.21:36 And then third, I wanna help all of us be equipped so that we can build the kind of relationships and have the opportunity where those facts and those truths and that evidence really come into play after21:48 we've built a bridge where people are literally asking us about the hope that's in us.21:53 Well, thanks for that insight, Chip. Well, I hope you'll join us for each part of this series, and let me also encourage you to get plugged in with the resources for Why I Believe Too, whether that's Chip's popular book22:04 or the small group study guides. During this series, we've discounted both, so order either of these resources today. To learn more, call triple 8 3 3 3 6 0 0 3 or go22:16 to living on the edge dot org. App listeners tap special offers. Now with a final22:22 thought, here's Chip. As we close today's program, I think I need to clear up a misconception. Yes, we need to be prepared with answers and we have to know the truth. And, yes, we face22:34 some real challenges in our culture. But I want you to know God always changes 1 person at a time. And I just want to remind you that the average person is far22:46 more willing to listen to your answers than you might think if you have a real relationship, if they know that you really care. I know there's a lot of22:57 frustrated parents and grandparents and even youth workers that talk to me about, wow, you know, I give people 8 reasons why I believe in the Bible or why I believe Jesus rose from the dead, and it's like23:08 BB's off a tank. Well, it's a new day and it's a new world. And what I want you to know is that we're going to learn a lot of good answers and we're going learn to winsomely share our faith and23:20 engage and communicate with the next generation. But I will tell you there is something that never ever fails. It's a 4 letter word, but it's not a bad word. It's love.23:32 People long to be loved. People long for peace. People's lives aren't working well. Whether it's teenage suicide or anxiety or family breakups, what the world is23:44 looking for, what people, what your neighbors, what your coworkers, what your grandkids are looking for is someone who deeply cares and accepts them. Once you build that bridge, we will23:55 give you some tools to help them know about Jesus, the Bible, and eternal life. Stay with us. I think this series is gonna be a real help to you.24:05 Thanks, Chip. Let me take just a brief second and thank the generous people who make monthly donations to support the ministry of Living on the Edge. Your faithful gifts help us inspire Christians to live like24:16 Christians. Every gift makes a huge difference. Now if you haven't partnered with us yet, would you prayerfully consider joining the Living on the Edge team? Make a 1 time gift or set up a recurring donation by going to24:28 living on the edge dot org or texting the word donate to 7 41 41. It's that easy. Text the word donate to 7 41 41 or visit24:40 livingontheedge dot org. At listeners, tap donate. Well, until next time, this is Dave Druhey saying thanks for listening to this edition of Living on the Edge.
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