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Meet America's Toughest Sheriff - A Man Who Loves Jesus
July 21, 2025 · 37 min
Examining the mutual respect and connection between Sheriff Joe and President Trump.
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Sheriff Joe's Journey and Challenges 0:00 Sheriff, it's as as I told you when we came in here, it's an absolute honor to meet you. For people who are watching the first time who may have never heard of you before, America's toughest sheriff, Sheriff0:11 Joe.0:12 I wanna thank you, for what you do, telling it like it is and defending the cops in our country. But I'm a little concerned because normally I never have anybody0:23 interview me that seems to somewhat like me. So this is unusual for me.0:29 I mean, I could beat you up a little0:30 bit if if it'll make you a little bit. Okay, dude. Say whatever you want.0:34 So, Sheriff, I I guess we start with, you were most recently in the news, in a lot of the national headlines because because of president Trump's pardon. Right? That was 1 of the many0:45 things that's happened. I think a lot of people who are watching this right now would argue you shouldn't have ever had to be pardoned because you never should have been convicted of anything. It was sort of a a0:55 political witch hunt. I don't think anyone's ever given you an opportunity to share your side. So what what really happened with all of this?1:03 Well, I try to summarize it because it's a very complex story in a way and yet it's really not. I wrote a book, Sure. Joe Arpaio, an American1:15 legend. And the only reason I mentioned that because that's 1 vehicle I can get to get the real story out. It's very difficult when you're being interviewed by any journalist or media to get the whole1:27 story out. I don't call it a payback. I supported him from day 1 when he announced in June 2015. His first rally happened to be in Phoenix.1:38 10000 people. And I believe 16, 17 people were running for president. So I'm the guy who introduced and nobody else wanted to be near him, the governor and nobody. So I1:50 remember 3 things I said. And by the way, I never prepare a speech. I always speak off the cuff, and nobody told me what to say. And that followed through all the2:02 time I supported and campaigned for him. Usually, when you endorse somebody, the staff or that person will say, please don't say this, say2:13 that. He never told me what to say or not, nor his staff. So I had to kind of wing it and it goes back when I just said I introduced2:25 him. And I said 3 things. We're born on the same day, flag day, June 14. There's a silent majority out there and boy did I get2:37 to cheers on that by saying silent majority. And then I looked him in the eye and I said you're gonna be our next president. Then I said 1 more thing that drew a lot of attention to this day. I said2:49 we have another thing in common. That's Obama's birth certificate. I know everywhere, especially with the, politicians in the media, don't3:01 talk about the birth certificate. And my campaign guy, who I had for 20 years, oh, you can't mention a birth certificate. But I did ship you around when I was talking to3:13 the republican groups and mentioned the birth certificate. But that's toxic to this day with political people. But that's what I saw. I said, you're gonna be our next3:25 president. And people think back, why would you do that? And don't forget, I know people that run for president. I was the honorary chairman for George3:37 W. Bush. I was the honorary chairman for Mitt Romney. I was the honorary chairman for Rick Perry. Not just using my name, I travel with them. So I think I know a little about presidential3:49 races. And yet yet I said Donald Trump will be our next president. Dealing with Trump and my wife watching Fox4:01 at the beginning to keep her mind off the treatment, she really loved Donald Trump. I told him and he says, give me that phone. And he calls4:13 my wife. Now people may say like another candidate running for president, I think he's from Texas, where his wife called me when he was in town and wanted me to endorse4:25 that person. My answer was have him call me. I don't go through wise. Trump did not need my support by calling my wife. I was hooked4:37 with him from day 1. Had nothing to do with my wife. But he's called my wife several times. Even when he was president he called. Now why would he call my4:49 wife? My wife never met him, but and when I was the speaker at the national convention in Cleveland, of course, I was a5:01 delegate purposely. I ran so I could help Trump at the convention. The media on Sunday, Monday said, are you speaking? I haven't heard anything.5:13 So by chance, his security guy, Keith, I was on the floor of the convention. Oh, Trump is in a room by himself. Oh, then let's go see him. Okay. I go in there. He got monitors.5:25 He's there. And another guy and Donald Trump. He runs up to me and he says, how are you? And then I use psychology. Don't you ever think5:37 that I turned down going on that stage for you? Because I didn't know I was gonna go on. If I did not, he probably thinks I turned it down. So he he wasn't very happy. He gave order that you get5:49 him on that stage. Yes, sir. Then the speech. I wanna see the speech. I said, I do my own thing. No. You gotta do this. We're gonna introduce you. America's6:00 toughest shirt known for his pink underwear. I told him, that ain't gonna work. Not gonna work. I'm gonna talk about my wife. At the time, he was taking a little heat, woman6:12 or whatever. Yeah. So I'm gonna talk about my wife. I don't care what you put on your stupid teleprompter. So that's what happened. Now he didn't have to talk to my wife. I was hooked6:24 from Bayouar. You know, a lot of these politicians use their wife and you know how all that politics. So I don't forget I don't forget. But that's not the reason I stuck with him. He's I6:36 know he's very, very pro car from the heart and he's very strong on military. So he's my guy. I tell everybody that. Every news6:48 media, they don't like it, that's tough. Tough. Because 1 mistake I think he made and I don't blame him because I was a6:59 federal official for 26 years. You know, I was regional director in Mexico. I can name it. I know how the feds operate. And I've been caught up on certain things, Watergate7:11 with the former attorney general Klein Dean. So I just happened to be in certain jobs that put me around all this just by chance.7:24 So I understand DC and it's tough to get rid of the swamp. And I think the president tried to, but when you look at it retrospect,7:36 he should've been doing what Biden is doing right now. He's wiping everybody out.7:41 Shock and awe.7:43 President and President, Trump has a soft spot too, you know, you know, for people. And maybe that overrode some decisions he made, especially those that7:55 turned on him. And so but he's a fighter and, he's not gonna surrender and I hope he runs again. I was saying like I do every time I8:06 win and I've been sure 24 years, been through a lot of campaigns, when you throw the primaries and the general election together, that's like 15 times or 16 times I had to run.8:19 And, every time I won, the next day, I run down to the county and sign up for the next 4 years. I don't wait. I I register. I'm now a candidate. I was hoping when8:31 he left a note at the White House for Biden, it was not a note. It would say I am now announcing my candidacy. But strategically, there may be a reason he doesn't wanna do it now.8:43 I'm hoping after the midterm elections that he announces to run for president. And, let's hope he does that. You're gonna have a lot of people maneuvering right8:55 now that want to run for president. And human nature being what it is, they can all say, oh, I'm loyal to Trump, if he doesn't run baloney. They're loyal to themselves. They're laying9:07 the groundwork. And, Trump has to face that. And it took me a long time to get a little discouraged in my last election when you see how they9:18 turn on you. I'm talking about those that I've endorsed last term that I endorse. They forget you. Because when you take us some heat in the media,9:31 uh-uh, they forget to spell your name right. I'm done I'm not being bitter, but I have a right to speak out, and I'm still a professional. I I9:43 know what to say. I very seldom will talk about the race, other sensitive things, not for political reasons but that's not the way I am. I do not9:55 like bad mouthing people even in my campaigns. I run out what I did, not the other guy. And I guess that's a good strategy when you can win 24 years with all the10:07 heat that I've been through and I should have won in 2016. But when they bring sorrows in plus other big boys over 3, 4000000 dollars,10:19 When the mayor of LA, who's still there, comes all the way here and leads demonstrators against me wearing the t shirt, arrest our pile, having me in stripes. This10:31 is the mayor of Los Angeles. And when they bring all these people in with all the money they have, and when you have a federal judge, Obama and Biden, the day before early voting, they10:43 said they're going to charge me with contempt of court and put me in prison for 6 months. That's the day before voting started. So I get very amused when you hear,10:55 we don't wanna investigate anybody doing the campaign. Looks too political. What, are you kidding? They named me the day before the election. I don't think that's ever happened where you11:07 get charged a day before. The fix was in. They went after me, and ended up with a contempt to court because of a biased federal judge whose11:18 wife in a Mexican restaurant speaking with 3 school chums from Yuma and she they asked her what does your husband do? Oh,11:30 he's a federal judge. And she voluntarily says he hates our sheriff. He's gonna do everything in his power to make sure he's not reelected. And then11:42 the law firm, Covington, Burling, or Burling, Covington, that's where Holder came to be the attorney general. And he opened that investigation. Hundred days11:54 that they had, they always give a hundred days. I was a target and they even said we don't have the evidence but we're going after them because of the media.12:06 Remember that law firm now. Guess what? The federal judge I just told you about, his brother-in-law was a big shot in that law firm. You knew it was stacked against me. They got me.12:18 They got me. I should have been the sheriff again. And the only thing I'm really sorry about is I wasn't because Trump did12:30 win and, I would've had the opportunity to work with him. We would've had a lot of fun together, believe me. But I didn't have that opportunity.12:43 So, that's the way the ball bounces. I'm not a vindictive guy even though I'm Italian, American. My mother and father came from Italy. My12:55 mother gave her a life for me, refused an abortion and died. So, but I still have my own morals and ethics because I go way13:06 back. And when you shake hands and give a word, the word should be your bond. Whether it's marriage, whether it's supporting people, now you need about a thousand13:18 lawyers to represent you because people don't keep their word anymore. It's the way we live right now.13:28 The media always hasn't been friendly to you. So I wanna ask you about your history and where you got the name America's toughest sheriff. And I think a lot of your biggest haters come because13:40 they don't necessarily believe in law and order. But law and order is something that you've always felt extremely strongly about. So where where did the13:48 Well, first of all, I probably made my own bed and had to sleep in it. I'm not a typical sheriff or law enforcement guy. I remember I ran for sheriff when I was 60.14:01 I had another life that people forget and I could never get my past history out through the campaigns. Now the book people when they read the book, we didn't know you worked with the DEA. We didn't14:13 know you had gun battles. We didn't know you were a kid now. I can go on and on. So I had a little background. And then I joined the army when the Korean War broke out so, you know, I14:25 I lived in tents and when I became sheriff, I go back to my days in the military, so I'm gonna put up tents in the desert for the inmates and I did. August 8 1914:37 93. I I won that year. It took me time to find a Korean war tents free so I had to go to New Mexico but I did it. Over half a14:49 million people had come through the tent. Actually I've had 4 presidential candidates visit the tent. They all loved it. Oh, when I'm president we're gonna make you head of the prisons or15:01 whatever. Bob Dole, he came to the test. Governor Wilson, California, he came to the test. Phil Graham, Phil Graham, senator from Texas running,15:13 he came. But came, he came. So if it's so bad, why are these politicians saying they love it? I only put convicted people in15:25 there. Over a half a million have come through. I put the sign up. I sold so many hamburgers. I just say got more people. I put a vacancy sign up. I've done a lot of things in the jail.15:37 A lot of things. It's all gone. The pink underwear is a good example which by the way I'm gonna start selling underwear again to raise money to help the cops thrown under the15:49 buses. There's a war on cops. I've already raised millions with another friend of mine out of New York and and we used that money to help the cops recently thrown16:01 under the bus for political reasons. Now people don't understand but in my book when I left the army I I was a sergeant in this yard. I16:13 was 21. I took the test for the border patrol. Border patrol. I flunked it but I did test the Metropolitan Police in DC. So I went to the16:24 academy and the cap they sent me to an area near Walter Reed. There was no action. I want action, so they sent me to fourteenth and U, toughest speed probably in America. All I had was a blackjack, a night16:36 stick, and a 38. Very aggressive. 21 years old. All black. So I locked up a lot of black people. Nobody else will lock up there.16:48 Not that I'm wrong but you know how they twist that out. And where was everybody? I'm in the nation's capital. You got tons of federal people there. How did I get by? Because it's a federal jurisdiction.17:00 Those cases are tried technically in federal court. They don't have a district attorney, a U. S. Attorney. How did I get by if I was doing something wrong? No. I was doing what I took an17:12 oath of office for but I was aggressive. And then I went on another police department because I was directing traffic, helping doing17:24 Eisenhower's inauguration. And the sheriff from Clark County, Vegas came in with his posse, stayed in the same apartment building that I lived. It's like an apartment hotel.17:36 Actually that's where I met my wife. She was there in that same building. And he said why don't you come out to Vegas? But that's what drove me to go to Vegas. I decided to go. I17:48 flew there. I was in the reserves, Warren also. I got a free ride. And they interviewed me. They hired me. 5 days later, I'm patrolling downtown Vegas. That time18:00 it was separated. My name to fame was when I busted Elvis. So he was going a hundred miles an hour to beautiful blonde on his Harley, took him18:12 down to the police station, ready to book him, but he called me out of it. Actually, Nixon, paid him an honorary federal narcotic agent, which I had the badge, not the same 1,18:23 but we only had 300 agents when I joined the Bureau of Narcotics, now known as the DEA, Drug Enforcement Administration. And I did that 518:35 I was able to get a job with the DEA with the Bureau of Narcotics. I had 3 different law enforcement jobs in the last year. It usually takes you a year to check your background. But I did get called to Washington18:48 by the administer, the commissioner of narcotics. He interviewed me for the job and I never forget to oh, you're Italian. Yes, sir. You mind locking up Italian? Talk18:59 about the mafia. I said I'll lock anybody up. So they sent me to Chicago and I got sworn as a federal agent. Married my wife same time19:11 December 20 second 19 57. And I got double promotion fees. I was out there hustling just like I did on the Washington Police. Made more undercover buys19:23 that I could go on and on. And my wife is very active helping me because she would take all the phone calls. I was stupid enough to give my home number to the dope. I figured I figured this19:35 guy can't be a fed, you know. And she used to take up so many calls. Tony would call, you know, she would she would, you know, say that she was posing as a prostitute over the19:47 phone or taking the messages and all that. So my wife was really involved in the initial part of my law enforcement career because when I left D. C. I met her at the whole on19:58 a blind date. But then I went to Vegas on my own and then brought her to Chicago and we got married. So it's been 63 years. So when I talk20:10 about, law enforcement and cops, we also have to understand that they have families too. And the families are just important sometime20:22 through someone's career. And it's a tough job. There's a lot of divorce in law enforcement. Unfortunately, it's a tough job. So I've been lucky.20:34 Had her for 63 years. And she passed away 30 days ago. So, it's tough. So, maybe they ought to do20:46 sometimes do a story on the wives of the cops, you know, or or husband. It could go either way. The spouse. We'll say the spouse. Yeah. Because they have to put up a lot. The families, the kids,20:59 and the cops, when they go on the street, especially today's environment, you don't know if you're coming back or you don't know if you're going to jail. You don't know if21:11 you're going to jail. You're just trying to do your job. So all I can say about the law enforcement today is the fact we're gonna have a difficult problem because I'll tell you what they did under Obama21:23 and Biden. They went after 16 police department on civil rights alleged violation to see if they had a pattern and practice21:35 of racial profiling. 16, under consent degrees that they have monitors monitoring everything they do. Me, I'm the only sheriff they21:47 went after and I told you it took them 8 years to get me. So you have the judge. You have the prosecutors who are from Washington, not local US attorneys.22:00 And now you have monitors, 8 of them paid by the taxpayers to monitor everything that's done in the sheriff's office. I was able to get by the first 2 years under that.22:12 I still knew how to operate. And the judge, even though he didn't like me, never said I racial profile. All the media, racial profile. It was using race22:25 as a criteria and I signed an agreement with the head of ICE that I could enforce the federal immigration laws after my deputies and detention officers were trained. I had22:37 the authority to do that. Plus I had state laws, 2 new state laws I was enforcing. My deputies were probably the most knowledgeable trained law enforcement in the country. Of course, like I22:49 do everything extra, I locked up more than probably the whole at least a quarter of the whole country in local law enforcement. I was doing my job. They didn't like it. The politicians went after me23:00 big time, especially the, democrats. So I was caught in the bind. Now we have Biden already said we're gonna use the attorney23:12 general and the civil rights. We're gonna start investigating more local police departments to see if they racial profile. Now at least, I talked to Sessions before I even knew he was gonna be23:24 appointed, Attorney General. He really wasn't in my corner. He could have dumped that case for many reasons. Just like I mentioned the collusion with the judge and the family, I could go on and on.23:36 But, no, it didn't happen. Now you're gonna see that's gonna be the reason is saying that we're going to enforce the civil rights, we're gonna look at these police departments,23:48 see if they have a pattern and then we're gonna take them over. I already said they took 16 over and I'm the the sheriff of an elected constitutional officer.24:00 They took over. When I report to the people, I don't report, I'm not a police chief. It reports to the mayor, city council, or the governor. I'm an elected sheriff24:13 that was fighting that issue too, not just a racial issue.24:16 Let me ask you this, sheriff. When we were sitting here earlier, your phone started ringing and it was Frank Sinatra's My Way if I'm not mistaken. Right? That song must mean something to you.24:27 Well, 1 thing I know my that's my favorite song. And my wife, I know deep down, she didn't like it because it starts24:39 off, and now the end is near. Face the final curtain. Now, that's my song. I've sang it, on 60 minutes in Australia,24:51 which I can't sing. And, I've had that song for many years. I'm sure. Now, Donald Trump, that's become his song because I was on a plane25:02 with him and I looked at him and I said, you know, my way is perfect for you. That's your song. Then I go a few months later to the25:14 inauguration and becomes, you know, they all come out dancing. It's my song, my way. And then he leaves Washington, his final trip on Air Force 1. And if my way, that's25:26 my song. So that's my song. I stick with it. And it fits Donald Trump. Took him years late to find that 1 out and it does meet25:38 him too. So that's the story of my way and I like the end where it says, I took the blows and did it my way. Now when the media,25:51 a lot of times they say, sure. Do you have any regrets that, you have on your career? I've had a few. And my answer is,26:02 oh, I remember my way. Yeah. Regrets, I've had a few but too few to mention. I said that's my answer to your stupid question. So that's how I26:14 answer. So I use the lyrics sometime. These does fit me when you look at the lyric.26:21 So let's talk about what you've got going on now. You've just dropped the book and you're gonna be selling underwear again. Yeah?26:28 Well, when I retire, I didn't go to Hawaii to relax. I'm sure a lot of politician figure, well we finally got them, even republicans because they're all26:39 jealous. I I I get all the press, you know. You know how it is with these guys. They don't like somebody that's famous. They like Trump as I said only because it betters them right now right26:51 now. So I started raising money for cops, giving speeches across the country, not charging nor am I I don't charge.27:03 When I do republican, all the state chairman, they want me to talk. Even now they want me to talk. I'm not going away. I did run for senate briefly. I did it. I had a27:15 reason. It was tough Mitch O'Connell pumped in millions of dollars to my opponent. The other 1, Ward, is the chairman of the Republican Party, a complete disaster. And then I ran for27:27 sheriff last year, wanted to come back because I wanted to help Trump. I was all campaigning a hundred and 16 degrees.27:36 Do you have a message that you would give to all the officers who are out there right now that are struggling with my hands are being tied? I don't know if I wanna do this anymore?27:44 I that's a problem. No. I'm an old time guy. Nothing against the new guys because I recruit a lot of new guys. But I always said it was too much of a hassle to get through the27:56 system on the police authority or education from 1 place to the other. I would have hired more than New York cops and Chicago cops, the older guys. Okay?28:08 Because I know. I live through it. They live through it. Every day, especially in a crime infested area, they see this every day. They know how to handle these guys. Even my own28:19 guys, SWAT teams, SWAT teams everywhere. To get a marijuana surgery, go in a house, you need a SWAT team for everything. I used to just my partner knocked the door down with my 30 in, take care of business.28:32 But things are getting in such a way, and it perpetuates itself, especially with the media. They're the ones driving this thing. Whether it's that problem or any problem, the media can control28:43 everything. And they're controlling this problem now with cops purposely. Their own agenda along with the the the liberal democrats that want don't like cops. Some.28:55 Not all of them. Believe it. Even Hispanic. I get a lot of Hispanic support, believe it or not. But you gotta know how to police. That's why I liked it. When I walked to be in the old timers, we did community29:07 policing in our own way. You didn't need all this, you know, education and all this. They call me a racist every hour on the hour. It don't bother me at all.29:19 In fact, they call everybody a racist now. I have a black grandkid. I have a Mexican grandkid. And I lived in Turkey, the Middle East. I29:31 love the foreign people. Always got along great on the tough decisions I had to make dealing with the president's attorney general and all the cops and the people. I got along great29:43 in Turkey, Mexico, Central, South America. I had offices everywhere. I never had a problem. My mother and father came here legally from Italy. And I like dealing with29:55 people. I can't. Everybody comes up to me. I'm getting more people coming up to me now than when I was sure if I can't figure that 1 out. And more people know me. Maybe they were afraid to come up when I was sure.30:07 But still, I have tons of people. I take pictures with anybody. Everybody. I got Mexican blacks come up to me. I gotta be careful what I say though. And30:18 sometimes I have somebody with a foreign accent. So I naturally I asked them first of all I say now I don't wanna ask you this. I'll be accused of racial30:30 profiling, but where'd you come from? Oh, I came from Albania or I came from Mexico. Wow. And then I start talking Well a lot of these places I live. I like talking to foreign people30:42 where they're from. And when I retired from the federal drug enforcement I joined my wife in the travel business. So I worked for my wife for 10 years in the travel business all over the world. I like30:54 foreign people but I can I'm afraid to say where are you from? Especially with a Hispanic. But I always lay the groundwork now. You know I just I don't know because I lived everywhere. Maybe we know people or so. You31:06 know what I mean? But you can't even say anything anymore.31:09 With everything you've been through and with where you are now and reflecting on the career you've had, reflecting on this beautiful family, the memory of your wife, and seeing what's happening to our country,31:21 what does America mean to you?31:24 The only reason I, I feel optimistic and by the way, on that word, people come up to me, oh, you're you're you're the greatest and, you know, you're so smart and31:36 all that. You know what I tell them? I got 2 things going for me. Life experience, I sure got that 1, and common sense. I said I don't need all these degrees and everything to be a cop. Common sense and life31:48 experience. We go through cycles. We're gonna survive. We always survive. It might be difficult sometime but we're a strong country, a lot of patriots here and we just31:59 gotta be able to talk to people. But I'm not special. I'm just a guy that was in law enforcement and loved my country32:11 and, doing what I feel is right. So they think they got me. I got news for everybody. I'm not going away. You can I'm gonna be more vocal because you know what? I'm gonna stay32:23 relevant. They try to hide me sometimes. Unless this I'm talking about the media and then, of course, the politicians. They're not gonna come around me. But 1 day, they're gonna knock on my door next year. You wait.32:35 I've already got people that want my endorsement. My loyalty is to my country and to Donald Trump, period. If they even whisper they don't like Trump,32:47 get lost. They'll even come and see me. That's the way I am. In my next mission, I'm gonna take care of the cops. I've been doing it, and I'm gonna continue to do it.32:59 And I feel sorry for law enforcement, what's going on today. This administration is trying to take over law enforcement. When you got millions of, crimes33:11 a day or whatever, shootings, never hear about that. Why do they just pick the the black situation? You mean nobody else is getting killed? What about the cops? Now I'm not gonna complain about the the33:23 Capitol Police officer. You know, he's a cop. They did their job. We gotta recognize that. But I want every cop that's killed. I want the33:34 same type of assistance. I want the politicians to go there, go to their funerals, to the33:47 wakes, go to their family that others select few seem to have done. That's all I want. You recognize every cop. I don't care if you're black, white, purple. I33:59 don't care what you are. I don't care who you shot. You give that every cop the same treatment as what's going on today. Well, I don't say the same treatment. People what's34:11 going on today? The same recognition recognition of how tough law enforcement is and not trying to take away their authority. Now they wanna take away, that you can sue the cops too.34:24 Think of that. You think a cop is gonna not worry where they can go after him personally? Do you realize what could be happening? Because you don't get the backing of the police chiefs34:36 when you really look at it. How many police chiefs go out front? I don't see many. They can't or they can't if they have any guts. But it's still the greatest system in34:48 the world, the greatest country in the world. And for all the cops out there, just watch yourself, watch your back, and be careful. Sometimes the35:00 enemy is within, but do what you have to do. If you don't, like it, maybe I'll get another job. So everything will35:12 be okay. I still think the people of this country respect the cops, and you're gonna see an increase in that respect because they're not stupid. They see what's35:24 going on with the Black Lives Matter, the riots, all the politics. They see that, the public, and it's gonna turn around and there's still the public will support their cops.35:36 But you have to be careful with the political part of this. That can destroy you. Maybe we would hope we don't have a black neighborhood that has a lot of crime. That would be great.35:48 So maybe we have to give more attention to that too though. I'm not against the social situation to try to help the black people because they're they're they're the victims anyway, black on black. Everybody36:00 forgets that. So when you talk about all this going on, don't don't the politicians understand what the real story is? They don't wanna understand it. They're using it. They're using the cops as a vehicle to further36:11 their agenda. And the poor cops are not treated right in the criminal justice system when you got all this heat going. The recent conviction that they have with the jury, that wasn't fair36:23 in a way. There's just too much heat. The the jury probably everybody's afraid to do anything and they that enters their mind because everybody's human. Everybody is human. Don't tell me36:36 all these people are not human and they have their own thoughts. But stop using the cops as the weapon. Treat the cops the way they should be treated fairly and let the system take this36:47 case. Now I see some sheriff or someone fires 7 out of 10 people. How how do you fire everybody without even knowing the whole story? Because everybody's37:00 worried now on their reputation and in the meantime, they're sacrificing the cops. It has to change. Has to change. You're not gonna have any cops. They're not gonna join an organization where if they37:11 try to do their job they're going to jail. Come on. They're trying to destroy the cops. These people that hate cops.In this video 0:00 Sheriff Joe's Journey and Challenges
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