Ep 241: Shawn + Jill Johnson: How Do You Keep Marriage Fresh?

Pastor Shawn and Jill Johnson from Red Rocks Church are back for their fourth appearance, and things get real fast — from the legendary canoe trip where Shawn sat on a dead mouse for four hours, to the honest, hard-won wisdom they've collected after nearly three decades of marriage. Levi and Jennie swap notes with the

Johnsons on keeping it flirty, surviving hard seasons, knowing when comfort tips into neglect, and the "final draft" language that changed how Shawn and Jill communicate. Plus: Red Rocks Church's sold-out 20th anniversary service at Red Rocks Amphitheater, a son DJing his second-ever gig on that same stage, and Jill's surprisingly sweet trick for reconnecting with why she fell in love in the first place. Connect with us on social! Shawn: @shawnjohnsonrrc Jill: @Jilljohnson03 Levi: @levilusko Jennie: @jennielusko Fresh Life Church: @freshlife [Links] Order Kiss The Fire: https://bit.ly/49C6bUF Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY Subscribe for more exclusive content: https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe Time Stamps: 00:00:00– The canoe trip that tested their friendship (and Sean's packing skills)  00:09:21 – Kiss the Fire update: what happens when a vulnerable book meets the world  00:14:11 – Austin the DJ opens Red Rocks Amphitheater (his second gig ever)  00:22:39 – The marriage conversation: humility, longevity & what 27 years teaches you  00:38:24 – The "I feel most loved when..." exercise from their counselor  00:50:15 – "Is this your final draft?" — the language that changed how they communicate