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July 10, 2026 · 31 min
In this episode, Dave Groves sits down with Heather Turner, the new Executive Director of the David and Barbara Green Centre for Global Leadership at Oral Roberts University. Heather's path here is anything but typical! Before stepping into this role, she spent time in Oklahoma's state government and ran her own local school of music. Now she's bringing that same entrepreneurial, people-first energy to the Green Centre, a hub built to develop "whole leaders for the whole world." Tune in as Heather shares what it means to grow leaders who are equipped not just to succeed, but to serve students, staff, and industry partners alike. Chapters 00:31 Introduction 01:58 What is the Green Centre? 03:41 Key Initiatives to empower Leaders 07:44 Upcoming Leadership Events 11:02 Heather's Journey to the Green Centre 17:24 Developing Godly Leaders 20:15 Generosity as a Leadership value 26:11 Conclusion https://oru.edu/centre-for-global-leadership/index.php Register for the Empowered to Lead Conference Aug 28 ------ https://geb.tv/ https://pray.com/gebamerica ----------------------------------------- GEB America is available on DIRECTV channel 365-1, the GEB app on iOS and Android, and various streaming platforms by searching GEB Network or GEB America. www.GEB.tv/How-To-Watch The GEB America Podcast is a Golden Eagle Media production - Tulsa, OK Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on this program are solely those of the speakers and not necessarily those of GEB America, Oral Roberts University, or their employees. This program is not intended to offer investment, financial, medical, legal, or any other advice. Viewers should consult a professional on any such subject matter.
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In this episode, Dave Groves sits down with Heather Turner, the new Executive Director of the David and Barbara Green Centre for Global Leadership at Oral Roberts University. Heather's path here is anything but typical! Before stepping into this role, she spent time in Oklahoma's state government and ran her own local school of music. Now she's bringing that same entrepreneurial, people-first energy to the Green Centre, a hub built to develop "whole leaders for the whole world." Tune in as Heather shares what it means to grow leaders who are equipped not just to succeed, but to serve students, staff, and industry partners alike. Chapters 00:31 Introduction 01:58 What is the Green Centre? 03:41 Key Initiatives to empower Leaders 07:44 Upcoming Leadership Events 11:02 Heather's Journey to the Green Centre 17:24 Developing Godly Leaders 20:15 Generosity as a Leadership value 26:11 Conclusion https://oru.edu/centre-for-global-leadership/index.php Register for the Empowered to Lead Conference Aug 28 ------ https://geb.tv/ https://pray.com/gebamerica ----------------------------------------- GEB America is available on DIRECTV channel 365-1, the GEB app on iOS and Android, and various streaming platforms by searching GEB Network or GEB America. www.GEB.tv/How-To-Watch The GEB America Podcast is a Golden Eagle Media production - Tulsa, OK Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on this program are solely those of the speakers and not necessarily those of GEB America, Oral Roberts University, or their employees. This program is not intended to offer investment, financial, medical, legal, or any other advice. Viewers should consult a professional on any such subject matter. ...more Show the full description Show less In this episode, Dave Groves sits down with Heather Turner, the new Executive Director of the David and Barbara Green Centre for Global Leadership at Oral Roberts University. Heather's path here is anything but typical! Before stepping into this role, she spent time in Oklahoma's state government and ran her own local school of music. Now she's bringing that same entrepreneurial, people-first energy to the Green Centre, a hub built to develop "whole leaders for the whole world." Tune in as Heather shares what it means to grow leaders who are equipped not just to succeed, but to serve students, staff, and industry partners alike. Chapters 00:31 Introduction 01:58 What is the Green Centre? 03:41 Key Initiatives to empower Leaders 07:44 Upcoming Leadership Events 11:02 Heather's Journey to the Green Centre 17:24 Developing Godly Leaders 20:15 Generosity as a Leadership value 26:11 Conclusion https://oru.edu/centre-for-global-leadership/index.php Register for the Empowered to Lead Conference Aug 28 ------ https://geb.tv/ https://pray.com/gebamerica ----------------------------------------- GEB America is available on DIRECTV channel 365-1, the GEB app on iOS and Android, and various streaming platforms by searching GEB Network or GEB America. www.GEB.tv/How-To-Watch The GEB America Podcast is a Golden Eagle Media production - Tulsa, OK Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on this program are solely those of the speakers and not necessarily those of GEB America, Oral Roberts University, or their employees. This program is not intended to offer investment, financial, medical, legal, or any other advice. Viewers should consult a professional on any such subject matter.
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1:28 It's a pleasure to be here with you, Dave. Thanks for having me.
1:31 You're the newly appointed, and I wanna say this correctly because this is kind of it's a mouthful.
1:35 It is.
1:35 The David and Barbara Green Center for Global Leadership here at ORU. And so you're the executive director, newly appointed. And so you have just hit the ground running over the last few weeks and months. So what's that
1:47 been like?
1:48 It's been a blast getting to know everyone. So I started out, of course, this is the best time of year, I think, to do a listening tour at a university. Right.
1:56 No no students.
1:57 You know, so it's kind of a it's a good time of year to do that, and I've been such, I've been impressed by everyone's warmth and, welcoming spirit. Of course, everyone here at the university
2:09 at Oral Roberts has just been great. So it's been fun to learn what's going on already in the university. There's a lot. There's a lot of construction happening here, a lot of new projects happening, and so I'm thrilled
2:21 to be here, when there's so much forward momentum already in motion.
2:25 For sure. Yeah. For those that are alumni, I always say you need to come back. You know, you need to come back and see what's happening at ORU.
2:31 A lot of transformation.
2:33 A lot of transformation and great great stuff. Yes. Stuff that makes you proud.
2:37 It should be
2:37 You know, for sure.
2:38 It should be very proud. It's something that yeah.
2:41 I guess the question that is on everybody's mind is what is the David and Barbara Green Center for Global Leadership?
2:48 You said that very well. It is a mouthful.
2:51 It is. Well We can just call it the center. The Greene
2:53 Center. The Greene Center for Global Leadership. Well, really what it is is a place, to build and connect leaders for the whole world. So Mhmm. Build and connect whole leaders for the whole world
3:05 is sort of the 1 sentence easy way to say, what is the center going to do? And it's gonna do that for, empowering and equipping students and staff and faculty here, at the university, as
3:17 well as connecting to and elevating, the skills of industry partners. And so, I'm really excited to get started on some of that programmatic work. I've been working
3:29 day and night on initiatives as we get ready for the fall. Right. And so working hand in hand with doctor Wilson on some of those strategic initiatives for the center, to, of course, honor the faith
3:41 and the legacy of David and Barbara Green and what they've set in motion is incredible. Right. And so we want students and our external partners and stakeholders to be empowered and be inspired
3:53 by that legacy of faith and stepping into what God has called you to be and, who he's called you to serve. And so I'm very excited, to to step into those initiatives, and actually, we've
4:05 already got some things in motion. So we're we're pretty excited.
4:07 We do. We're gonna talk about that.
4:08 Yeah.
4:09 So the I love that it's for not just students and not just for faculty, but staff and Mhmm. Others, because it's so important to develop leaders and to
4:21 be involved in leadership no matter what stage you're at. Yeah. So what do you think are some really key things that you're hoping to kinda start with when it comes to helping develop leadership
4:32 skills, not just with students, but with people that are already established in careers?
4:37 Well, I've got a few e's because that's just easy to remember. Right? So the 1st is is truly to equip and to empower emerging leaders. So 3 e's for you. So that would be the student body
4:49 focus. And that emerging lead leadership series will include things like, leadership breakfast where students can learn from industry leaders in all different sectors of society. So
5:01 whether that be ministry or civic
5:04 Yeah.
5:04 Service or if that looks like education or business sectors, that they can learn from those leaders. There'll be mentorship opportunities, some certificate opportunities for them to not only grow as a technician
5:16 in their field of study, but to grow as a leader in that field of study. So for example, if you're getting a nursing degree and you're gonna be a great nursing technician, fantastic. But what if you're supposed to
5:28 lead a group of nurses? Okay. What is what are the different skills that it takes to do that, versus just being a technician? If you wanna be an entrepreneur and you're gonna open a business, being a great technician in
5:39 whatever that field is, whatever area you want to open, that's 1 thing. Mhmm. Then that's 1 set of skills. Very different often from running an actual business leading Yeah. An organization has different skill sets. So
5:51 I'm thrilled to jump in with our emerging leaders for that. So that's sort of the student focused initiative. And then next step, we would have the elevating the work and the skill
6:03 set of adult learners. So executive education programming. So another e. Yeah. Executive education. So, that might look like some continued education
6:15 hours, professional development hours specific to leadership training and development. That might look like change management Mhmm. Development because as organizations merge, you know, mergers
6:27 and acquisitions and and leadership transitions within organizations, which happen all of the time. An average CEO, I think, stays with a company about 4.5 years. So if you think about an
6:38 organization, when they have those changes, there's usually some a little bit of rub, right?
6:44 Yeah.
6:45 And so we're gonna be there to support organizational leadership, development. And so that might look like corporate solutions, where we we partner with companies and ministries and
6:56 organizations to to find, okay, where are your gaps and how can we identify those areas of need and then create programming, whether that's a non degreed certificate programming
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7:08 to help, to fill that gap. And so I'm very excited about that, to work with industry partners, to bring in, and that'll also give the university very real
7:20 in real time insight to what are these industries facing and how can we then meet a need. And so yes. So we're very excited about the sectors of society. We'll we'll host roundtables
7:32 and things like this, to be a listening ear, truly to learn, and then to identify areas of need that we can we can then address. And then finally, the 3rd, thing is really
7:44 to esteem, which is another e, of course. I'm a teacher at heart. You know?
7:50 Well, you're in a good place.
7:52 Yeah. A good place for for that. So but that esteem is is to really recognize, the great leaders that are already here on campus, the great leadership, students that we have, as well as,
8:04 we would like to set up a David and Barbara Green Leadership Award that, at the annual events that we host, that we would recognize leaders within, our community and
8:16 around the world that we feel like example being spirit empowered
8:21 Mhmm.
8:21 In, impacting the world, you know, whether that's at the local international scale.
8:28 So let's talk We'll talk about this a couple times. Let's talk about an event
8:31 Yeah.
8:32 Coming up this year. I'm sure I'm very excited about.
8:34 Very excited.
8:34 August 28th. At the, Regia Blank Global Learning Center, you're having a, it's a all day Yes. Event for leadership. Talk about that.
8:43 That's right. Thank you. Yes. So does the Empowered to Lead 1 day conference, and I'm thrilled about this because it's a prequel to some of the programming we're going to be doing at the center Yeah.
8:54 For global leadership. And so what better way than to start out with a leadership conference, investing intentionally in leaders, both locally and and whoever's able to to attend internationally
9:06 or domestically, we would we would love to have them there. But so we'll we'll start out strong with with, leaders who are public servants, like Congressman Hearn will start us out as an as an opening
9:18 keynote speaker, and and that's from that industry. Then we'll have a sectors of society panel where you have, Pastor Tommy Dawson with Life. Church, for example. He's over 21 campuses of Life.
9:29 Church. Shannon Wilburn, who had 153 franchises of a business, and she's a consultant. We'll have Councilor Anthony Archie, so he's in the city
9:41 level of civic service. And so you'll get to see hear from Doctor. Reid Martinez. So you've got, of course, the Provost of Oral Roberts University on the academic side
9:53 in talking about, how to manage and how to lead under pressure, with change management, with AI coming in. So we have some really cool discussion that we'll be able to go through with
10:05 those leaders to learn from different sectors of society. And then, the lunch the lunch and speaker is Sean Copeland. So, of course, CEO of Regent Bake. Yeah. And, and so you've got that business, and he'll
10:17 be speaking about the heart of a leader. We'll have a leadership assessment that everyone will get to participate in with some action steps and things that they can do as they go back and put into play, some of the
10:29 tools and the resources that they're learning that day, and then a Leadership Under Pressure panel that will have great distinguished leaders on that panel as well. And then, of course, Doctor. Wilson. And this whole
10:40 theme of the of the conference is after, is made after his book, Empowered to Lead. So that's his, yep, that's his most recently released book. And of course, it's
10:52 got great foundational tools as well as applicable, principles that people can take and then go put right into practice. And that's what I like about academics that are pragmatic.
11:04 Okay? We're gonna learn. It's that it's not just a theory we're gonna keep in our head and Right.
11:09 Put in
11:09 our back pocket, but it's something we can go
11:11 put in
11:11 to put in action.
11:12 Action. Something you can actually do something with. Yeah.
11:14 There's a
11:14 lot of great there's a lot of great leadership, books, and there's a lot of great leadership events. I mean, there's not a lack of that. Yeah. But so often you're left with, okay. Now what?
11:23 Yeah. What do I do
11:24 with this?
11:24 That's right.
11:25 You know, because I'm not at this stage of my, you know, of my business or whatever it is that I'm doing. So so important. I I I love that. And for those that are, listening or commuting in the show notes, we've got all
11:35 the information there, links as well as to the book information. So let's talk a little bit about your career.
11:41 Yeah.
11:42 Because people are really like, well, that's great. But, you know, talk who is this
11:44 That's right.
11:44 That is on this, show. So you've had quite a pivot. I guess this is a safe way to put it.
11:50 Yeah.
11:50 You you started, with music Mhmm. Music academy. I'm a try to see if I can get the I mean, I get the timeline.
11:55 That's right. That's right.
11:56 And then you were involved in things with regard to the the, Department of Commerce in Oklahoma. Mhmm. Before that, the Chamber of Commerce through the City of Jenks.
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12:06 That's right.
12:06 And then you've been involved in a lot of different things, I know, throughout your career. Talk a little bit about how there was a common thread and how that kinda brought you to the position you're at now.
12:16 I love that question. I do have a weird journey that I think everyone sort of does, you know. And I'm so thankful for it. God has been so faithful, and I'm just sort of blown away how he utilizes every single
12:28 part of your journey, every season, to contribute to what you're supposed to do in this season. So that's so cool. So I started out with a a Bachelor of Music Education, degree, and I went and taught public
12:40 school music for 7 years, and I loved it, but I wanted more autonomy. I had young children. I wanted to be super involved with all of their schooling. And and so, so
12:52 I cheerfully resigned to that position knowing that I was supposed to to continue teaching, but and to to do it in a different way that served our family better. And so I started
13:04 Anthem Road Academy, which is a music school, and started with 19 students and over the years grew to 5 over 500 students a week that come in 4 different locations,
13:17 God just blessed it. And truly, the whole idea is just to discover potential in others, and then to help develop it into a marketable skill.
13:29 And so, I had a teacher once tell me, you know, everyone starts out with a talent, but it's not honed into a marketable skill. So you can have a talent, but but no one's gonna pay you for it yet, or whatever.
13:41 And so, you know, and so to help people really identify what's that potential that God has put inside of you, and, maybe even call it out before they can see it, and it's probably a gift that I've been given, to
13:53 be able to do that. So my my personal purpose is truly to identify that hidden potential and develop it into, to a great opportunity for either an individual or an organization
14:05 or
14:05 Mhmm.
14:06 Now I've gotten the chance to do that some, with partnership, of course, at the city level, and and, of course, with a lot of partners and support at the state level. So, really, I went from, you know, owning the
14:16 business, I went back to school and got a master's of business administration and a graduate certificate in nonprofit management. I really thought I'd open a nonprofit, have it all ready to go. Yeah. And then and
14:28 then I got the opportunity to, be the president of the Jinx Chamber of Commerce, which helped me, you know, help other businesses and and connect with community and, with quality of life. And so
14:40 that's really where I got into economic development. And truly, I was a little bit into economic development before that. That happened just by default with opening multiple locations in different
14:52 cities and learning, you know, what's happening and and how could we contribute intentionally with those communities, to add value truly to the and be be a good community partner. And then,
15:04 after doing that for a couple of right at 2 years, we had some great success with the city of Jenks and absolutely loved it. And truly, I had my head down focused on Jenks, and I got a call,
15:16 from a headhunter for the state, at the governor's office. And that's how I I was asked, you know, would you consider, taking a a meeting with the governor to learn more about this
15:28 position, which was leading the Department of Commerce? Ended up being the deputy CEO for the State Department of Commerce and then the executive director of CORE as they made they transitioned the organizational
15:39 structure. And that gave me a lot of of experience, international business, travels, recruiting businesses to the state. So the state has a motto that says, we wanna bring Oklahoma to the world and
15:51 the world of Oklahoma. And I think of ORU as we wanna build whole leaders for the whole world. We wanna bring ORU and and truly we wanna bring, God's presence, his spirit Mhmm. You know,
16:03 all over the world. And then of course everyone that comes here, that we want them to have that same level of engagements and, and experience, that their potential is developed and
16:15 honed into a marketable skill. So, so I'm very passionate. That that common ribbon is truly just finding potential. I've been able to do that at the, you know, the individual, like I said, in in
16:27 organizational, and then the city level, finding, okay, how can we build partnerships? What what are some economic development strategies
16:34 Sure.
16:34 Incentive programs, things like this Yeah. To to take something, that isn't quite where we want it yet and develop it into something that's really valuable. And the same thing at the state, what are some mechanisms we
16:46 can put together in partnership with other agencies or nonprofit or private entities to to redevelop Main Streets, right? To Right. To, incentivize and bring
16:58 in new film production. That's a big part of what, we did. You know, what are the federal programs that we can take advantage of that will add the most value to the communities and the citizens that we serve.
17:10 And so so then when this this opportunity came about, it's really just anytime you're developing, whether it's at the individual organization, it's just people. It's 1 person at a
17:21 time. It's looking at, okay, if we can if we can develop the potential in every individual that we interact with, if we can pull something that God put in inside of them out
17:33 outside of them and help it to be in service of of others, and that's what we're all called to do. Right? Yeah. Gifts are not meant for ourselves, but to be in service of others and to honor
17:45 God. And so, that's that's what I'm here to do. I'm thrilled about it.
17:49 Well, and and, you know, a university is like a little city. It is. You know, we're not a state school. We have tens and tens of thousands of students over miles, but several thousand students. Yeah. There's all the, you
18:00 know, all the, the different things that kinda make it this this, little village. You know?
18:05 It's its own ecosystem, I mean. Yeah. Yeah.
18:08 Well and I think that, what's great about what you're doing with the with the Green Center is you're really, I think, helping to develop a real understanding to what leadership should look
18:20 like in the 21st century Mhmm. To people that want to be empowered with God's spirit and do things in a way that are not only moral and ethically,
18:31 right, but are part of their own kind of, you know, built in destiny that God has given them.
18:37 Absolutely. And I think, you know, you mentioned spirit empowered. And I think so many times in leadership, we leave that part out Yeah. And we completely lean upon our own understanding and our own strengths.
18:48 Mhmm.
18:49 And truly, you know, you can go so far doing that, and you you know people who have, common personality traits who 1 of them goes in 1 direction and is successful, but maybe make
19:01 maybe, maybe not in a God honoring or others honoring way. And you can see another person with those same strengths, same talent, same personality traits who chooses to lean not just on their own strengths and
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19:13 understanding, but lean into, the leadership, truly, the leadership and the guidance of the Holy Spirit who empowers you to do things that you couldn't do on your own, to
19:24 have favor in areas you would not normally have on your own, to have ideas that you in and of yourself may not be able to have Right. On your own. So it is, a secret sauce,
19:37 so to speak, and it doesn't have to remain secret.
19:39 Right.
19:40 But it but it's something that truly empowers you to do God's work. It's like his work, our hands is what I like to say. It's it's it's his plan and his his timing,
19:52 his will, but done through people, you know, made made possible through us saying yes and being humble enough to to realize, you know, I'm just a person. You know,
20:04 we can only do so much as human beings, but, but we have the Holy Spirit to guide and direct us and and to inspire us. And my word for the year was inspire. I choose a word
20:16 every year.
20:16 Mhmm. And
20:17 I looked it up and it actually means, breath of the spirit, I think is what it means. And I'm like, oh, what a great reminder. Like, when when you feel you're
20:28 inspired by, let's say, nature or art, all these creative beautiful things that make you feel inspired and give you hope, they come from
20:40 above.
20:41 Mhmm.
20:42 So it's such a reminder that, the spirit is present. It's just whether or not we choose to acknowledge and lean into that or Mhmm. Or not. And so,
20:55 at Oral Roberts, we choose to lean into it.
20:56 Yeah. Hundred percent. So 1 of the things I wanted to ask you about is this idea of generosity as a leadership value. So part of the founding of the of the center was to honor David and Barbara Greene's
21:08 radical generosity.
21:10 Yes.
21:10 And so talk a little bit about how you see that as as a core part of what you're doing and and how you, you know, kind of wanna wanna continue to build that going forward.
21:21 Well, of course, the Greens example that in an incredible way. But really, they're just following Christ. Right? He gave his life, that's the ultimate gift that you can give,
21:32 that's the ultimate example of generosity. And of course the Bible tells us it's more blessed to give than to receive, and if
21:41 we're
21:41 a parent, you know that, because as you give gifts to your children, you are so filled with joy, right? And so I think sometimes we forget, maybe out of habit of just, you know, getting
21:53 by, getting through the day, the rituals of the day, how blessed it is to invest intentionally in the life of someone else. And so that's what a leader does. A leader
22:05 isn't just going somewhere and hoping they'll follow, you know. You'll have followers for a little bit if you're charismatic or whatever. But if you intentionally invest in the lives of those that you want to lead or
22:15 influence, or or those that you know have potential to do so much for others, I think about the teacher I had a wonderful teacher named
22:27 Karen Smith Pearson who invested in me. And truly, because of her investment, that's how I went to to college, on a scholarship. And that's then how I I stepped into my
22:39 calling fully. And and then, you know, thousands of students are impacted, not because of of me personally, but because I said yes to what I felt called to do, but someone invested in me. And I had a really
22:51 cool opportunity, at my past university to be called back on a donor event and to sing a duet with, a student who is a vocal student
23:02 like I was 20 years later, you know. And when I got when I walked into the event, the student said, Oh, it's you. And I said, Hi, yeah, we're singing together today. We didn't
23:14 know each other. We couldn't. And she said, No, it's you. You own Anthem Road Academy. And I said, Yeah. She said, Well, that's where I went to voice lessons, and that's how I got a scholarship to get a vocal
23:26 degree. And I was like, look at that. Someone invested in me Yeah. And I was able to fulfill that calling. Now, I invested in someone else, and then they were able to fulfill their calling. And so when it comes to
23:38 generosity, it's not an accident. It's intentional investment, and it's a responsibility that we have. And then if we take that, we get to see incredible things happen.
23:49 Sometimes you won't know all those seeds that you planted, how they've blossomed and how they've poured into the lives of others. But every now and then, you get a fun little glimpse like that, where you're like, how
24:00 cool. I invested intentionally in someone else, and now look at the life that they're able to lead, and and they can continue to perpetuate that generosity. So, whether it's with industry
24:11 partners, ministry partners, it's never a poor investment to invest in leadership development. No. I mean, when are you ever gonna regret that? Right. You know, it's never, it's never gonna be
24:24 a regret to invest intentionally in in a spirit empowered movement where you believe, like, every dollar that goes into a program, to an event, to
24:36 an emerging leaders series for students, more for industry gap feeling, you know, that it's gonna be handled and stewarded with integrity, and that there's gonna be incredible fruit from that.
24:48 And so I would say, you know, Bible says, no, aspire fruits, and we'll be diligent to steward that well. But that that generosity is just, you know, that's example in the Bible, and it's what we wanna follow. And
25:00 just in life, it it's a good policy.
25:02 And you talk about investment. You know, something I've told students is that great leaders add value to their followers. Otherwise, they're just fans.
25:09 That's right. That's right.
25:10 You know? And if you can't do that, and, and I'll let you use that. Just
25:15 I love that.
25:15 Give me a little credit. Now I will I will say though that, I didn't tell you this, but I think we have a vocal mic, so we're gonna have you do a song.
25:21 Okay. No. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That's so funny.
25:25 I think that probably, the biggest thing that I think is really interesting about what you're doing with the Green Center is is that you're really kinda setting a foundation for what Yeah. Leadership is
25:37 gonna look like over the next decade Yeah. The next 20 years as far as, you know, like you said, it has to be at its core from the leadership values that the creator that God has given us.
25:48 That's right.
25:49 And if we can't if we try to just take, you know, kind of cherry pick Mhmm. The the concepts or the cliches that are out there, you end up doing a lot of things in vain.
25:57 That's right. Well and and you mentioned value adding value to people. John Maxwell also has a a quote that he says, we're valuable people who add value to people Mhmm. And who value people.
26:10 And if you wanna be in leadership, you really need to value people Yeah. 1st and then intentionally add value to them. And as you think about, you know, what will leadership continue to look like? How will that changeShow more
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