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- 625Encore: Psychologist Mary Pipher on Flourishing as We AgeDescription:Mary Pipher has spent her whole career noticing the gap between what the culture says is happening to women and what is actually happening to them. She did it in her thirties with Reviving Ophelia, and she did it again decades later with Women Rowing North. In this Sacred Work encore, Jen sits down with the clinical psychologist and author of eleven books to talk about the second half of life and what it actually asks of you. Mary makes the case that women get happier as they age, and she has the research to back it up, along with a story about two locker rooms that lands harder than any statistic. She also talks about thanking her own worn out hands for a lifetime of work, why reasonable expectations are the one thing happy people everywhere share, and the line Jen has not been able to shake since: we all age, but we do not all grow. Only one of those is up to you.Thought-provoking Quotes:We all age but we don’t all grow.If you don’t become better you become bitter. You either grow or you shrink.You should thank your hands for all the work they have done for you.We all find what we’re looking for.I have everything I need to be happy right between my ears.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Women Rowing North: Navigating Life’s Currents and Flourishing As We Age by Mary PipherReviving Ophelia: Saving the Selves of Adolescent Girls by Mary PipherA Life in Light: Meditations on Impermanence by Mary PipherThe Second Sex by Simone de BeauvoirComplete list of Mary Pipher’s books: https://marypipher.com/booksMargaret Mead’s idea of post menopausal zestJane Jarvis, American jazz pianist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_JarvisGuest’s Links:Website - https://marypipher.comFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/authormarypipherConnect with Jen!Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmakerThe For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.
- 626Zibby Owens on Losing the Plot, Starting Over, and Building a Life Around Books Description:Description:Calling all book lovers, calling all readers, calling everyone who has faced down a reinvention in the middle of life. Zibby Owens is one of the book world’s most tireless and warm-hearted connectors: a podcaster who has interviewed more than 2,000 authors, a publisher, a bookstore owner, a self-described accidental activist, and now an author herself. Ten years ago she was a perfectionistic stay-at-home mom of four on the Upper East Side, up at 4:55 a.m. to sign up for parent teacher conferences, with color-coded calendars and no time to read. Then she got divorced, fell in love with her tennis pro, recorded a podcast into her phone from her bed on a whim, and rebuilt the whole thing: new career, new marriage, new name, new voice.Her memoir in essays, Between Chapters: How I Started Over, Took Some Chances, and Found the Plot, is out now. In this Sacred Work conversation, Jen and Zibby get into what losing the plot actually feels like from the inside, the tiny unglamorous steps that add up to an entirely different life, why she sunsets things that are still making money, and how books became the connection vehicle for a whole community of women. Also: shy kids who grew up into very public careers, and the permission slip Zibby would hand her 39-year-old self.Thought-provoking Quotes:"There is a way. You are not stuck. Your life is not over. You can take these small steps to remember who you are. And it is not selfish. It is imperative." - Zibby Owens"When you cannot remember the last time you belly laughed, that could be a red flag to pay attention to." - Jen Hatmaker"Save nothing for the swim home." - Jen Hatmaker, quoting her agent Margaret"Talking about books is really talking about life." - Zibby Owens"It’s not just, well, I guess this is it because it has to be. This is it because it can be, and it should be." - Jen HatmakerResources Mentioned in This Episode:Between Chapters: How I Started Over, Took Some Chances, and Found the Plot by Zibby Owens (Zibby Publishing)On Being Jewish Now, edited by Zibby Owens"A Mother’s Right to Sanity," Zibby’s essay that went viral overnightThe Between Chapters essay platform on Substack, where readers write about their own chaptersAuthors in the mix: Dani Shapiro, Anna Quindlen, and Sarah Mlynowski, who told Zibby to start a podcastChildhood favorites: The Secret Garden, A Little Princess, Charlotte’s Web, Nancy Drew, and Little House on the PrairieGuest’s Links:Website - https://zibbymedia.com/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/zibbyowens/Substack - https://www.zibbyowens.com/Podcast - Totally Booked with Zibby https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/totally-booked-with-zibby/id1366633318Connect with Jen!<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="ht ...
- 627Dr. Galit Atlas on the Wounded Child Running Your Love LifeDescription:Why do we keep doing the same thing over and over in love? Same argument, same shutdown, same spiral, same reach toward somebody who cannot or will not reach back. We are grown. We have read the books. And still, something inside us takes the wheel and steers us right back into the ditch.Dr. Galit Atlas says the one driving is probably not you. It is probably the child you used to be.Galit is a psychoanalyst in New York who has spent more than twenty years in a room with people trying to talk about love. Her last book, Emotional Inheritance, was an international bestseller translated into twenty-nine languages. Her new book, Come Closer, names six wounded children most of us are hauling around inside: the frightened child, the melancholic child, the ashamed child, the invisible child, the guilty child, and the chosen child.In this conversation, Galit walks us through all six, what each one actually looks like in an adult relationship, and why we keep reaching for the familiar even when the familiar is what hurt us. She unpacks the invisible child who learned to hide too well, the guilty child who is always bracing to be blamed, and the chosen child who cannot separate from the parent she was recruited to take care of. She also opens her own story: her father's childhood in Iran, the losses her family did not have the privilege to name, and what happened when he showed up for her at the hardest moment of her life.This is not a book about bad parents, and the rummaging is not for its own sake. It is the only way to stop the repeating. The goal is not an apology. The goal is getting the wheel back.Read it with a pen in hand. And you probably already know exactly who to send this one to.Thought-provoking Quotes:“The frightened child is afraid of closeness because they learned that the people they love and the people they depend on can hurt them.” – Dr. Galit Atlas“The familiar is our home. For better and for worse, even if it's filled with demons, it's our home.” – Dr. Galit Atlas“We repeat in order to repair.” – Dr. Galit Atlas“The invisible child masters the art of disappearing.” – Dr. Galit Atlas“As adults, we have the power to know ourselves, we have the power to evolve and to heal. It's on us.” – Dr. Galit Atlas“The goal is to get the wheel back and be in charge of the adult versions of ourselves.” – Jen HatmakerResources Mentioned in This Episode:Come Closer: Childhood Wounds, Adult Love, and the Secrets of Emotional Intimacy – https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Come-Closer/Galit-Atlas/9781668067147Emotional Inheritance: A Therapist, Her Patients, and the Legacy of Trauma by Dr. Galit AtlasD.W. Winnicott on hiding: it is a joy to be hidden, but a disaster not to be foundGuest’s Links:Website - https://www.galitatlas.com/Instagram - https://instagram.com/galit_atlasSubstack - https://wildanalysiswithgalitatlas.substack.com/Connect with Jen!Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://instagram.com/j ...
- 628This Is What Happens When Women Read with Julianna GlasseDescription:Julianna Glasse was a Christian pop singer playing megachurches and arenas, married to a Major League Baseball player, and in January 2017 she sang at Donald Trump's National Prayer Breakfast weekend after voting the way her husband voted. Two years later she walked away from her faith, her marriage, and nearly everything she had built. Jen and Julianna trace the unraveling: the question she asked while holding her newborn daughter, the friend who handed her Plato's allegory of the cave, the "Christian drinkers" who changed clothes in the car after her concerts, and the day her then husband threw her books on the floor and said the sentence that became her title. They talk about love versus fear as a compass, why storytelling reaches people that shouting never will, and what Julianna would say to evangelical women quietly questioning how they vote. Now an Oxford alum, Julianna leads the This Is What Happens When Women Read foundation, which partners with Oxford's Saïd Business School to fund MBAs for women leaving high-control religions and cultures and has reached more than four million people in nearly 67 countries. Her memoir, This Is What Happens When Women Read, releases October 13.Thought-provoking Quotes:“You cannot know that which you do not know, but once you do know, it becomes your responsibility.” – Julianna Glasse“Does it feel like love or does it feel like fear?” – Julianna Glasse“This is actually what happens when women read. We notice the systems of oppression that we are in.” – Julianna Glasse“Bare your teeth at the institution, at the dogma, at the policy. Do not bare your teeth to the human.” – Julianna Glasse“It's just the teeniest taste of hope and freedom, and that is the most powerful taste you will ever have.” – Jen HatmakerResources Mentioned in This Episode:This Is What Happens When Women Read by Julianna Glasse (pre-order)Oxford Saïd Business SchoolMaria Popova, The MarginalianPlato's Allegory of the Cave (The Republic)Rebecca GoldsteinWalt Whitman and Ralph Waldo EmersonThe Measure of a Woman by Gene A. GetzGuest’s Links:Website - https://www.juliannaglasse.com/Foundation - https://www.thisiswhathappenswhenwomenread.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/juliannaglasse/Foundation Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tiwhwwr/Foundation Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/people/This-Is-What-Happens-When-Women-Read/61566356275917/LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliannaglasse/Connect with Jen!
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