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  1. 457Rethinking Influence: Malcolm Gladwell's Insights on Major Cultural TrendsThis week Jen and Amy dive deep into the mind of bestselling author and one of the most influential thinkers of the 2000’s, Malcolm Gladwell. Exploring the intriguing concepts behind his latest book, The Revenge of the Tipping Point, the conversation ebbs and flows through Malcolm's ability to turn dense data into compelling narratives, weaving stories that captivate readers in unexpected ways. Jen and Amy key into Malcolm's knack for viewing problems from unique angles, a skill that sets him apart in academic and popular discourse. Throughout the chat, Malcolm reveals how his perspectives have evolved over the last 25 years and how the nuances of today's world demand a fresh interpretation of the ideas that he first introduced. Their discussion underscores the blend of rigorous analysis and storytelling magic that defines Malcolm's work and leaves a lasting impact on listeners eager to engage with the pressing questions of our time.Malcolm gives us insight into all manner of cultural phenomena, including:  A definition of “overstories” and how they can refine and deepen our understanding of the spread of customs, mores, and practices The advent of “superspreaders:” those very few people who have a large amount of influence, a situation which has shifted with the onset of social media Snippets of fascinating social observations, illustrated in stories from his book including a look at the opioid epidemic, the growing mental health issues of students, and the power of television shows like “Will & Grace,” toward creating massive cultural shifts  * * *Thought-Provoking Quotes:“The overstory that is over our heads right now that we're not thinking about is one that says the most important way to understand ourselves and our differences from others is to look through the lens of politics. I think political ideology has somehow kind of become central in a way that it wasn't 25 years ago. That's a kind of weird thing going on right now that we're sort of not paying attention to. I'm hopeful that will shift. I would much rather people find themselves using other categories. Because there are other categories that are far more meaningful.” - Malcolm Gladwell"If you look at platforms like Twitter or TikTok, you'll see that a very small number of people have a massive amount of reach. As we examine how we're influenced, it's clear that the sources and individuals projecting influence in the world are getting smaller and smaller — which is weird, because we initially thought the opposite was happening." - Malcolm GladwellResources Mentioned in This Episode:What’s Going On by Marvin Gaye - https://bit.ly/3TLRne5Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2 - https://bit.ly/4gQTdECLosing My Religion by R.E.M - https://open.spotify.com/track/31AOj9sFz2gM0O3hMARRBxMalcolm’s Book List - https://www.gladwellbooks.com/landing-page/malcolm-gladwell-books/Revenge of the Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell - https://bit.ly/3XYc7BNAnna Muller - https://umdearborn.edu/people-um-dearborn/anna-mullerSeth Robertson - https://philosophy.fas.harvard.edu/people/seth-robertsonWill and Grace - https://en.wikipedia.org/wi ...1 hr 3 min
  2. 458[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. A Woman of Intelligence by Karin TanabeIn this month’s Jen Hatmaker Book Club episode, we speak with the author of A Woman of Intelligence, Karin Tanabe. In this fascinating interview, we learn that Karin originally set out to write a book about WWII women code breakers, but ended up turning it into an ode to the struggles of women finding themselves during early motherhood and the imminent right they have to a future chosen for themselves. The story follows a woman in the 50’s who sets out on a spy adventure, departing wildly from her mundane life, and making difficult choices that come with choosing yourself over society’s whims.Jen and Karin personally and candidly reflect on the pressures of motherhood, the erasure of self that can come with parenting full time, and the history that brought us to where we are today.Some topic points include:  The fascinating pivot from Tanabe's original book pitch to the creation of "A Woman of Intelligence" Discussion of rarely-taught aspects of U.S. history, including government-funded childcare during WWII Tanabe’s approach to crafting complex characters, including the memorable mother-in-law The careful construction of the novel's open-ended finale Join Jen and Karin for an engaging conversation that will leave you eager to dive into "A Woman of Intelligence" and reflect on how far we've come – and how far we still have to go.* * *Resources & Books Mentioned in This Episode:A Woman of Intelligence by Karin Tanabe - https://bit.ly/47GdbxIThe Sunset Crowd by Karin Tanabe - https://www.karintanabe.com/copy-of-the-listA Hundred Suns - https://www.karintanabe.com/a-hundred-sunsKarin’s Booklist - https://www.karintanabe.com/books-w3touElizabeth Bentley - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_BentleyThe Lanham Act of 1940 (Government-Subsidized Health Care) - https://bit.ly/3XS2UenThe Red Scare - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_ScareThe Cliffs by J. Courtney Sullivan - https://bit.ly/4evbYLGPrivate Equity: A Memoir by Carrie Sun - https://bit.ly/3Bbgy3wEyeliner by Zahra Hankir - https://bit.ly/4gDgdqCGuest’s Links:Karin’s Website: https://www.karintanabe.com/Karin’s Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/karintanabeKarin’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintanabeKarin’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/authorkarintanabeConnect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebo ...42 min
  3. 459Introducing: Search EngineNamed a best podcast of 2023 by Vulture, Time, The Economist, & Vogue. No question too big, no question too small. On Search Engine, host PJ Vogt answers the kinds of questions you might ask the internet when you can't sleep. If you find the world bewildering, but also sometimes enjoy being bewildered by it, we're here for you. Edited by Sruthi Pinnamaneni.8 min
  4. 460Stanley Tucci: Food, Memories, and EmotionsThis week Jen and Amy sit down with the charismatic and engaging Stanley Tucci, to discuss his new book, 'What I Ate in One Year', that explores the deep connections we can find amongst the food we eat, the memories we make, and the emotions we feel and how our cultural practices around food can provide fuel for us, not just in times of celebration, but can also provide us comfort in times of grief. Stanley reflects on how food plays a role in both joyous and difficult moments, emphasizing the importance of sharing meals with loved ones, hoping that readers will find comfort and connection through his work, especially in a time when we are all experiencing more loneliness and disconnection.***Thought-provoking Quotes:"You're such a Renaissance man." – Jen Hatmaker"I like it so much more when we all eat together." – Stanley Tucci"Food is just a part of life, which means it's a part of death too." – Stanley Tucci“When somebody brings me bread, that’s my person. Let’s get married.” – Jen Hatmaker“Even if you’re in a really shitty place, even if the food is terrible, but you’re eating with people that you love, it’ll be a memorable meal.” – Stanley Tucci“I don’t want to eat a well done burger. I’d rather eat an extra side of fries.” – Jen Hatmaker“Eating outdoors makes things taste better. Why is that? I don’t know but the place is crucial…in a weird way. It can change the taste of things.” – Stanley Tucci“We think that in the moment we’re going to remember something forever but we don't. It just slips away. Even just writing your story down for you has meaning.” – Jen HatmakerResources Mentioned in This Episode:Stanley Tucci’s new book 'What I Ate in One Year' - https://amzn.to/484rxb2Big Night (1996) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115678/CNN Show: Searching for Italy - https://www.cnn.com/shows/stanley-tucci-searching-for-italyStanley Tucci makes a Negroni for his wife, Felicity - https://bit.ly/4h2L9QWThe Devil Wears Prada (2006) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458352/Stanley Tucci’s film bio - https://imdb.to/3YgfeW2Stanley Tucci’s theater bio - https://playbill.com/person/stanley-tucci-vault-0000019856Taste: My Life Through Food by Stanley Tucci - https://amzn.to/4f08P6YGuest’s Links:Stanley’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/StanleyTucciStanley’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/stanleytucci/Stanley’s TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@stanley.tucciConnect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/48 min
  5. 461Yvette Nicole Brown: Black women and the importance of joy and sisterhoodIn this engaging conversation, actress, activist, and all-around beautiful human, Yvette Nicole Brown, gives us a lesson on the fundamental importance of joy, the blessings of caregiving, and the significance of community support. Through an exploration of Yvettes’ career, first in the music business, and now in the entertainment industry, she and Jen and Amy discuss the many challenges that face black women today while also talking about one of black women’s greatest superpowers – the sisterhood that exists among them. They lean into how white women can learn to harness that power in their relationships, too, and the things that can be done to support their sisters of color right now. Yvette also reflects on her personal life as a devoted caregiver, and dishes for a moment about the beauty of finding love in your late 50s.***Thought-provoking Quotes:“I don’t know as a kid that I ever thought that I would be a star. I always felt that I would be impactful in people's lives in some way because of the way that I love people.” – Yvette Nicole Brown“I am still pinching myself. I’m Forrest Gump in the flesh – in real life – because I just say yes to things that feel right and God just takes me to the next opportunity to do the same.” – Yvette Nicole Brown“That’s why black women are always so close with each other because whenever you see a ‘sista’, you know her story, without knowing her story. That’s why we call each other ‘sista’, because we know what she’s been through. Same thing with black men. ‘Brotha’. ‘Sista’. We know what the other person has been through and we stand with each other and support each other. But here’s the thing, we stand with and support everybody else too. And that’s why we say ‘vote like black women, think like black women’. That’s not hubris. That’s not arrogance. That’s heart. That’s soul.” – Yvette Nicole Brown“When it comes to anything that comes up in the news, culture, current events, whatever’s going on, if I feel even a modicum of uncertainty about how to feel about it, I just look to the black women. It’s the correct reading of the room. The response is always for the greater good. It’s what’s good for culture, for people, our neighbors, progress, equality.” – Jen Hatmaker“Instead of me showing you my pain, I’m going to use my joy as my strength and I’m going to dance and laugh through this thing.” – Yvette Nicole BrownResources Mentioned in This Episode:I Take My Coffee Black: Reflections on Tupac, Musical Theater, Faith, and Being Black in America by Tyler Merritt - https://amzn.to/3U6nMfNYvette’s acting and producing credits - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1304328/Kamala Harris for President - https://kamalaharris.com/How Black Women Organizers Broke Zoom to Raise $1.5 Million - Fortune.com K-Pops by Anderson .Paak at Toronto International Film Festival - https://tiff.net/events/k-popsFrasier - https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/frasier-2023/Among Us - https://www.innersloth.com/voice-cast-for-the-among-us-animated-series-round-1/Donors Choose - https://www.donorschoose.org/Th ...1 hr 2 min
  6. 462Sharon McMahon: “America’s Government Teacher,” Hope for Better ThingsFriends, today’s episode is a powerhouse! We’ve got Sharon McMahon, aka “America’s Government Teacher,” bringing some serious wisdom from her new book, "The Small and the Mighty." Even the drafters of the Constitution worried about chaos, but they hoped for better things—and Sharon’s here to show us how twelve lesser-known heroes in American history made a huge impact on democracy. She’s drawing parallels to how we can still shape our future today, no matter how small we feel. Get ready to be inspired, y’all! Let’s dive in!In this hope-filled chat: Jen and Amy muse around which historical figures they would most like to meet and we get a glimpse of their preferred election night routines Sharon highlights the arc of her career from an award-winning yarn influencer known as the Yarnista, to a photographer, to “America’s Government Teacher” We discuss the need for reliable sources of factual information in a world filled to the brim with fake news and disinformation Sharon explains why we shouldn’t sit out during state and local elections We talk about a variety of ways to engage in democracy beyond just voting And Sharon fields questions from members of our audience. ***Thought-provoking Quotes:“We’re all tired, we’re exhausted from the endless partisanship and the fake news and the disinformation and vitriol.” – Jen Hatmaker“I started noticing that there were a lot of people that were just really confidently wrong on the internet, saying things like ‘the electoral college is a university you can graduate from’.”– Sharon McMahon“There’s a big list of people, especially women, who never, ever get the credit when it comes to the civil rights movement – it’s the attorneys, it's the Thurgood Marshalls, it’s the Freddie Grays,  it’s the Martin Luther Kings.,and, of course, what they did is incredibly important but… there are a lot of women with whom this hot air balloon does not get off the ground. There is no leaving the ground without the significant contributions of women.” – Sharon McMahon“We have to stop viewing this as a zero sum game in which our enemies must be defeated or destroyed. That’s an onramp to dictatorship.” – Sharon McMahon“There are many ways to be involved in democracy. It’s not just voting and running for office. There’s not one prescription for how to be involved. Do things you are good at and contribute in your own way. We can’t all be parade goers.” – Sharon McMahon“We tend to put all of our eggs in this basket of who will win the presidential election but who gets elected in your state matters so much. The things that really affect your daily life are defined at the state and local level.” – Sharon McMahonResources Mentioned in This Episode:The Henry Fite House of Baltimore - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Fite_HouseThe Angry Trout Cafe, Grand Mariais, MN - https://www.angrytroutcafe.com/The Small and the Mighty: Twelve Unsung Americans Who Changed the Course of History, from the Founding to the Civil Rights Movement by Sharon McMahon - https://amzn.to/3NsoqjIGuest’s Links:Sharon’s website - https://sharonmcmahon.com/Sharon’s Newsletter, The Preamble - https://thepreamble.com/Sharon’s Governer ...1 hr 3 min
  7. 463Cooking Up Laughs with Stephen and Evie Colbert: From Gullah Cuisine to Kitchen MishapsJen and Amy are beyond thrilled to welcome none other than late-night legend Stephen Colbert and his amazing wife, Evie McGee Colbert, to the show! They’re dishing about their brand-new cookbook, Does This Taste Funny?—a project born right in the middle of pandemic life at home. Stephen and Evie share the hilarious backstory of how this all came together, dive into their kitchen quirks (spoiler: they don’t always see eye-to-eye in the kitchen), and their mutual love for Gullah cuisine from the heart of South Carolina’s Lowcountry. From the joy of cooking together to a classic metal spoon disaster, it’s the perfect blend of laughter, food, and a little bit of chaos.On today’s show:  Jen and Amy discuss their mixed feelings about high school reunions Jen offers some sage guidance to young girls about how not to accessorize in their senior photos Amy shows off in front of the Colberts with her plate of (gluten-free) Patti McGee’s Cheese Biscuits from their cookbook The group tries to unpack what made our children’s generation so sensitive about food expiration dates  Stephen shares the story about how he got radicalized by fancy butter  ***Thought-provoking Quotes:“Anytime somebody brings me my own cookbook – which is only a few years old at this point – and it’s dirty, filthy, greasy, I am thrilled. It’s the best compliment.” – Jen Hatmaker“My mom grew up in the heyday of processed foods. She didn’t have a lot of recipes that didn’t come from the back of a bottle of chili sauce or a packet of dried soup mix. So that’s where I started my culinary journey.” – Stephen Colbert“Those people who have cooking shows are amazing. Shout out to anyone who has to cook and talk in front of a camera.” – Evie ColbertResources Mentioned in This Episode:Flavors: The Junior League of San Antonio (1978) - https://www.abebooks.com/9780961041601/Flavors-Junior-League-San-Antonio-0961041609/plpThe Pioneer Woman Cooks: Recipes from an Accidental Country Girl by Ree Drummond (2009) - https://amzn.to/3Ue0eWdThe Colbert Report - https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-colbert-report/umc.cmc.3k1kkmfgd34hfnk8mc6p1uj01"I Hope This Grief Stays With Me" - Andrew Garfield Fights Back Tears And Celebrates His Mom - YouTube - https://youtu.be/_u_TswLQ4ws?si=Ah2cbnW3-5AiyAlFThe Daily Show - https://www.cc.com/fan-hub/the-daily-showThe Late Show with Stephen Colbert - https://www.cbs.com/shows/the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/After Midnight - https://www.cbs.com/shows/after-midnight/Montclair Film - https://montclairfilm.org/Does This Taste Funny?: Recipes Our Family Loves - https://amzn.to/3YoJeixFeed These People: Slam-Dunk Recipes for Your Crew by Jen Hatmaker - https://amzn.to/3BNozvMCandied Hot Peppers from Tiny Pizza Kitchen in Brooklyn - https://w ...1 hr 6 min
  8. 464Building Bridges, Not Walls: Tim Shriver on Dignity that Transcends DisagreementsLet’s be honest: there are seasons in life when things feel heavy and hard and the thought of breaking through the noise and negativity seems impossible. But with a little retooling of perspective, you can shift the conversation to one that is more productive and more hope-filled. In this episode, Timothy Shriver discusses his lifelong commitment to promoting dignity and unity through his work with the Special Olympics and the Dignity Index. He shares practical steps (and real-life examples gleaned from guests of his brand new Need A Lift? podcast) to demonstrate how you can turn a difficult conversation into an opportunity to form a connection.And if that’s not enough, Jen and Amy dig into some of their biggest fears – the ones they want to Bless and Release. ***Thought-provoking Quotes:“I was being invited into a world in which the pursuit of making the world better, more just, more hopeful was a joyful pursuit. It wasn’t a burden. It wasn’t a responsibility of commitment you had to keep.” – Tim Shriver"We need people willing to take a chance – on each other, on trying again, on their communities." – Tim Shriver“Without losing my passion, without losing my commitment to the issues, I can still treat people with dignity.” – Tim Shriver"Contempt for each other is the problem and treating each other with dignity is the solution." – Tim Shriver“We can’t get legislation in most states or at the Federal level that embodies either of those majority opinions [border security and gun control] because the contempt on the extremes is so dominating the conversation that our political leaders find it in their best interest not to solve the problem or too scary to try.” – Tim ShriverResources Mentioned in This Episode:The Special Olympics - https://www.specialolympics.org/Fully Alive: Discovering What Matters Most by Tim Shriver - https://amzn.to/3NXAie9The Dignity Index - https://www.dignity.us/Tim’s Need A Lift Podcast - https://www.timothyshriver.com/projects/need-a-liftHow Michael and Nicole Phelps Unlearned the Fear of Losing - https://apple.co/3NGKiYIA Special Olympics Gold Medalist on Authenticity and Play: Loretta Claiborne - https://apple.co/4hhBbLFSimon Sinek Believes that Idealism Belongs In the Workplace - https://apple.co/4dXmjj0Taking Off Our Masks through Confession with Fr. Mike Schmitz - https://apple.co/48gAlLlGuest’s Links:Tim’s website - https://www.timothyshriver.com/Tim’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/timothyshriverTim’s Twitter - https://x.com/TimShriverTim’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/timshriver/Tim’s Need A Lift Podcast - https://www.timothyshriver.com/projects/need-a-liftConnect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagra ...59 min
  9. 465Holiday Magic with Judy Greer: Inside The Best Christmas Pageant Ever!In this special episode, Jen and Amy get a visit from a Hollywood darling we’ve loved in countless films and shows like The Descendants, Archer, 27 Dresses, Arrested Development and 13 Going on 30 to talk about her newest project based on the beloved children’s book, The Best Christmas Pageant Ever! Actress Judy Greer talks about what it’s like to collaborate on such a treasured holiday story that she somehow missed out on as a kid but was lucky enough to discover when she was cast for the role. She sets the scene for what it was like to film the movie last fall in wintry Winnipeg with a cast full of kids on set and also takes a moment to share some highlights from earlier in her career.Also in this episode:  Amy and Jen talk about their mixed feelings toward pageants and public performances. As you might guess, one of them loves them, one hates them. In our GenXcellence segment, Jen and Amy recount their first movie-without-parents experiences. And we Rant or Rave about decorating the house at Christmastime. ***Thought-provoking Quotes: “I directed so many programs with my sisters and my girl cousins, and my parents were very, very mediocre audience members. If you’re going to have four kids, guess what you get to do? You’re going to sit on the brown corduroy couch and watch our shitty programs. That’s part of the deal. We practiced for six hours. I had choreography. At one point, I gave Lindsay an umbrella that she had to open at just the right lyric in the song and the bitch could not do it and it was so upsetting.” – Jen Hatmaker “I think what’s so beautiful about this story is that it’s about unity, and compassion, and empathy. And it’s about being welcoming.” – Judy GreerResources Mentioned in This Episode:48 Hours movie (1982) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083511/Film Rating Guide - https://www.motionpictures.org/film-ratings/Top Gun movie (1986) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092099/The Shining movie (1980) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081505/Alamo Drafthouse Cinema - https://drafthouse.com/austin37th Street Austin Light Display - https://www.instagram.com/37thstreetlights/Arrested Development - https://www.netflix.com/title/7014035813 Going on 30 movie (2004) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0337563/The Descendants movie (2011) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1033575/I Don’t Know What You Know Me From: Confessions of a Co-Star by Judy Greer - https://amzn.to/4hiDC0yThe Best Christmas Pageant Ever: A Christmas Holiday Book for Kids by Barbara Robinson - https://amzn.to/3YzrNfhThe Best Christmas Pageant Ever movie (2024) - https://bestchristmaspageantever.movie/Archer - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1486217/Citizen Ruth movie (1996) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115906/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1Dallas Jenkins - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0420817/?ref_=tt_ov_ ...40 min
  10. 466All Will Be Well: Lessons for Hard Times from Our Friend Amy GrantWe’re going deep into the archives to pull out a special conversation for this week’s bonus episode with our most beloved friend, Grammy Award-winning singer/songwriter, Amy Grant. The last time Jen and Amy sat down together, it was on the heels of an exhausting,arduous time in our county. Back then, Amy delivered some profound words of wisdom in the peaceful, soothing way that only she can. And we felt her words would be a welcome balm to soothe our weary souls today so we’ve brought it back for you to enjoy as a bonus episode!In addition to some very timely words of wisdom from Amy, this episode covers: Navigating life's difficulties while maintaining a positive outlook — Amy shares a touching story about the final lesson she’s learned from her parents Amy discusses her journey of healing from unexpected open heart surgery and she and Jen talk about learning to respect their bodies and live more in balance The importance of community and support systems, especially when enduring hard circumstances The complexities of cancel culture which has come for Amy on more than one occasion in her career and personal life The evolution of Contemporary Christian Music (CCM) and the “The Queen of Christian Pop’s” impact on music that transcends genres and generations ***Thought-provoking Quotes:“Everybody brings different things to the table. Rapid-fire conversation or investigative or deep conversations might not be their comfort zone but there are other things that are. – Amy Grant“I have my hands on my own wheel. I can’t steer anybody else’s opinions. I can’t steer anybody else’s choices. But I’ve got to own mine.” – Amy Grant“When I was younger, I thought if I don’t say yes to everything, it’ll all stop. It’ll all dry up. It won’t keep coming. It’s my yeses that keep the energy moving forward. But I found out that’s not true at all. That was a fake story. It was just the scarcity mindset.” – Jen Hatmaker“Ask different questions. The next step, the next opportunity, the next enlightenment, the next everything for all of us is within reach. It always has been.” – Amy GrantResources Mentioned in This Episode:Jen at the Amy Grant concert in Austin 2023 - https://www.instagram.com/p/CxvoBcbujuB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==1 hr 13 min
  11. 467Joyful Spaces with Bobby Berk: Design, Color, and Holiday VibesThis week we welcome back a treasured friend of this show, renowned design guru and the heartbeat of the Fab Five, Bobby Berk!  It’s been four years since we last talked to Bobby so we have a lot of ground to cover in this episode. Bobby tells us about the designers like Michael Graves and Isaac Mizrahi who he drew inspiration from early in his career. He tells stories about his humble beginnings with retail gigs at stores like Bed Bath & Beyond and Restoration Hardware – maybe part of what makes him so relatable? – and how his career as a designer blossomed from there.And with the holidays upon us, we also take the opportunity to ask Bobby about how he celebrates (or survives) the holidays. He offers some great insights on instituting some personal boundaries to maintain sanity that are not too late to put into rotation this year.***Thought-provoking Quotes:“At my grandparents' A-frame cabin in Colorado, every square inch was red, and I mean R-E-D shag carpet and it looked like a whole gaggle of muppets laying on the ground….and I think I liked it. I remember laying on the ground threading my fingers through the carpet.” – Jen Hatmaker“I loved going to my friends houses where it was just cool and calm and nothing to look at. But honestly that’s not what I’m drawn to anyway. My house looks like a rainbow exploded. I have a kelly green velvet couch, a gallery wall that has every single color. I’ve got some bat shit wallpaper going on. I’ve decorated it like I’ve never seen the color gray.” – Amy Hardin“I’m drawn to spaces that have life in them, I like color – I like it when a room is even outrageous. Whether or not I would exactly do that thing, I think, ‘I like where your head is at’”. – Jen Hatmaker“You’re the CEO of your own instincts and design and if you love it, it’s going to work.” – Bobby BerkResources Mentioned in This Episode:Queer Eye for the Straight Guy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_Eye_(2003_TV_series)Queer Eye - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_Eye_(2018_TV_series)Queer Eye on Netflix - https://www.netflix.com/title/80160037Series 26: Episode 02: Queer Eye’s Bobby Berk on the Fire Inside Us All - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcasts/series-26/queer-eyes-bobby-berk-and-the-fire-inside-us-all/BobbyBerk.com - https://bobbyberk.com/Right at Home: How Good Design Is Good for the Mind: An Interior Design Book by Bobby Berk - https://amzn.to/3A7TjXTWhen Jen met Bobby in Mexico - https://www.instagram.com/p/B5HMYkUASvc/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Tripointe Homes Style Finder Quiz - https://bobby-berk.tripointehomes.com/style-finder/Michael Graves - https://michaelgraves.com/Michael Graves Target  Collaboration - https://michaelgraves.com/product/target-products/Isaac Mizrahi Target Collaboration - https://www.target.com/b/isaac-mizrahi/-/N-s73qoJen’ ...1 hr 8 min
  12. 468Introducing: Office Ladies 6.0The Office co-stars and best friends, Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey, are doing the ultimate Office-lovers podcast for you. Each week Jenna and Angela will dive deeper into The Office giving you access to even more behind the scene details, interviews and lots of stories that only two best friends who were there, can tell you.4 min
  13. 469Laughing Through the Chaos: Finding Joy with Tig NotaroIn this conversation, recorded the morning after the presidential election, comedy phenom Tig Notaro joins Jen and Amy (donned head to toe in black in mourning) to unpack the events of the day and to help them find their happy place in the world again, which she accomplishes with tactical success. By the end of the show, they’ve laughed so hard, they’ve forgotten most of their cares. In this episode, Tig regales us with her journey as an Emmy and Grammy-nominated comedian, the influence of her free-spirited mother, and how her family dynamics (and a few hilarious stories from her boys) have shaped her comedy. She also reflects on her journey of authenticity, what it means to be an icon in the LGBTQ+ community, and the significance of being true to oneself. In Rant or Rave, Jen and Amy muse about whether or not they have the chops to make it in stand-up, and we learn that Amy definitely has a deep well of material at her disposal. Speaking of which, be sure to listen for Tig’s story about the weirdest gig she’s ever performed!***Thought-provoking Quotes: One of the things my mother told me growing up was to tell everyone to go to hell if they had a problem with me. And I certainly do not walk around telling everyone to go to hell but I think there’s this thing in me, whether you know I was told that or not, I think people can tell that I don’t have a desperation and I’m not going to do backflips for anybody. – Tig NotaroI didn’t bust out of the closet. I went through my own process of figuring things out. I wasn’t born knowing I was gay. When I did come out, it was just an authentic feeling and decision of, this is who I am. – Tig NotaroResources Mentioned in This Episode:Annette Benning - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000906/John Travolta - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000237Cher - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000333Olivia Coleman - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1469236/Broadchurch - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2249364/Wicked Little Letters - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20234774/Taika Waititi - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0169806/Ryan Reynolds - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005351Denzel Washington - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000243Julia Roberts - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000210Notting Hill - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0125439Jason Bateman - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000867Smartless Docuseries - https://play.max.com/show/f8c800e3-7639-4883-a0f1-8eb5adbb5cedI’m Just a Person by Tig Notaro - https://amzn.to/3ZjlfQYTig: A Netflix Documentary - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3986532/One Mississippi TV series - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4947608/Under a Rock with Tig Notaro - https://www.amazon.com/Under-Rock-Tig-Notaro/dp/B07SJZ4TKMKevin Nealon - https://www.instagram.com/kevinnealon/ ...1 hr 8 min
  14. 470Ruth Reichl's Garlic & SapphiresToday, Jen gets to fulfill a dream of interviewing one of her favorite influences and mentors in the food world. The iconic six-time James Beard award-winning Ruth Reichl sits down with Jen to discuss her extensive impact on food culture spanning the last several decades. They hit on everything from the alarming state of the modern food industrial complex, how we source our food and the impacts it poses to our health (as well as the hope they see for our future), to what it has been like to document the evolution of food across the changing media landscape of print media and the internet. Ruth reflects on highlights from her career as a chef, food critic, editor, tv personality, author, novelist and documentarian and discusses the challenges and joys of her various roles in the culinary world, including the emotional toll of her work which has garnered both admiration and criticism.***Thought-provoking Quotes:The way that we eat, the way we have handed over our health, our environment, our communities to the idea of industrialized food is truly terrifying. – Ruth ReichlThe more you say no, the more people want you. – Ruth ReichlAlmost no one likes what is written about them. No matter how flattering a portrait may be, people don’t like it. So when it’s really not flattering, people don’t like it. – Ruth ReichlResources Mentioned in This Episode:Food and Country Film - https://www.foodandcountryfilm.com/Michael Pollan - https://amzn.to/4g1bkGVBarbara Kingsolver - https://amzn.to/3D0fv7fWhite Oak Pastures - https://whiteoakpastures.com/Gourmet Magazine - https://bit.ly/3D2LN1BTender at the Bone: Growing Up at the Table by Ruth Reichl - https://amzn.to/3OEwjmSCondé Nast - https://www.cntraveler.com/contributor/ruth-reichlNew York Times - https://www.nytimes.com/by/ruth-reichlGarlic and Sapphires: The Secret Life of a Critic in Disguise by Ruth Reichl - https://amzn.to/4ifrUo9The Paris Novel by Ruth Reichl - https://amzn.to/3BfyUk4Save Me the Plums: My Gourmet Memoir by Ruth Reichl - https://amzn.to/49vwfiXGuest’s Links:Ruth’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ruth.reichl/Ruth’s Twitter - https://x.com/ruthreichlRuth’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/@ruthreichlbooksRuth’s Substack - https://ruthreichl.substack.com/Connect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmakerThe For the Love Podcast is presented1 hr 5 min
  15. 471Scott Erickson Paints an Honest Picture of an Advent Season of HopeAs we journey into this Advent season, Scott Erickson, better known to most by his moniker in the internet and art world as Scott the Painter, discusses his journey of faith and the creation of his 'Honest Advent,' project aimed at reinterpreting traditional Christmas narratives through a lens of vulnerability and authenticity. He reflects on the paradoxes of belief, the importance of community, and the need for honest conversations about faith and the human experience, particularly during the Advent season. With a great deal of compassion and humor, Scott shares insights into his creative process, the significance of connection in his work (which has resonated so deeply with his community that many have it tattooed on their bodies), and the need for honest spiritual experiences in today's world. His work is not just visually beautiful. It’s also meaningful, bringing a beautiful new approach to an old and familiar story.Thought-provoking Quotes:“As an artist, I love the brand of Christmas – red and green, complimentary colors. I love the music – the soundtrack, I love all of it. But I thought, is this a distraction from life or is this a hopeful message for the reality of it?” – Scott Erickson“I want to know if I should just give up on my beliefs. If God’s not in the world and this isn’t a story that’s happening, then I just want to move on. But, if we are celebrating this thing and if it is happening, then that’s what my invitation is. By going through those things, and thinking through, and praying through, and then creating out of it, the fact that it then becomes a path for others to walk, that’s the greatest gift in making art.” – Scott Erickson “It’s amazing, the alchemy of what happens when you hand the work over and then it becomes something new in the hands of your audience and the people that are experiencing it and they bring a story to it that you couldn’t even fathom. You’ve done your part, you did the creation part, stewarding your gift, putting it out there to the best of your ability and then they take it and it becomes something more. I’ll never get over that exchange.” – Jen HatmakerResources Mentioned in This Episode:FitBit - https://store.google.com/category/trackersScott’s Tattoo FAQ - https://www.scottericksonart.com/tattoo-faqSay Yes: Discover the Surprising Life beyond the Death of a Dream by Scott Erickson - https://amzn.to/3AEVfaoScott Erickson’s Shows - https://www.scottericksonart.com/showsThe Enneagram Institute Personality Types - https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-descriptions/Honest Advent: Awakening to the Wonder of God-with-Us Then, Here, and Now by Scott Erickson - https://amzn.to/4fgK6fcGuest’s Links:Scott’s website - https://www.scottericksonart.com/Scott’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/scottthepainterScott’s Twitter - https://x.com/scottthepainterScott’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/scottthepainterScott’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@scottericksonartScott’s Pinterest - https://www.pinterest.com/scottthepainter/_created/Connect with Jen!<a href="https: ...1 hr 8 min
  16. 472Krista Tippett: Making Spiritual Conversations Relatable and RealKrista Tippett's work in the realm of spirituality and human experience is unparalleled. She just has a divine gift for distilling complex topics into clear, palatable information that we can sit with, dissect, and examine. She uses her OnBeing podcast as a place to conduct honest conversations with theologians and thought leaders about what it means to be human, what it means to be alive. Curiosity is welcome in her space. She brings a sense of calm to everything around her. So during the frenzy of the holidays, which can be both joyful and stressful, we wanted to circle back to this centering conversation with Krista to decompress and be at peace with the world. This conversation feels like an oasis in what is always a chaotic month so it’s our gift to bring it back for you this week. Segments:Bless and Release: Rules for holiday decorating and making the holidays magicalGenXcellence: Essentials for outfitting a GenX space***Thought-provoking Quotes:If a thing is feeling stressful and not joyful, it needs to be re-evaluated. – Jen HatmakerI actually found in the Bible, reading it for myself directly, that it completely honored the questions, and it honored the anguish, and it was full of things that didn’t make sense or were contradictory. And for me that was an opening to not feel that faith had to be in opposition to what didn’t make sense or was contradictory. – Krista TippettThere has to be a way to represent the complexity of this, and also the centrality of it, the fact that it’s more about questions than it is about answers, and the array of how we walk around with this, and what it means in our lives, and the ways we practice, and the vocabulary we have, and the different ways we pray. I wanted to show that you could talk about this and we could speak about the part of ourselves that we mean when we use language of religious or spiritual. – Krista TippettThe sensibility, the intentionality with which something is offered, shapes the reaction that comes at it. – Krista TippettI do have a spiritual homeland and I do have a spiritual mother tongue. That matters. – Krista TippettResources Mentioned in This Episode:Walter Brueggeman – https://www.walterbrueggemann.com/The Prophetic Imagination – https://onbeing.org/programs/walter-brueggemann-the-prophetic-imagination-dec2018/ Thích Nhât Hanh – https://plumvillage.org/ Desmond Tutu – https://www.tutu.org.za/ Mary Oliver – https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/mary-oliver I Got Saved By the Beauty of the World – https://onbeing.org/programs/mary-oliver-i-got-saved-by-the-beauty-of-the-world/Guest’s Links:OnBeing Podcast - https://onbeing.org/series/podcast/Krista’s website - https://onbeing.org/our-story/krista-tippett/Krista’s Twitter - https://x.com/kristatippettConnect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter ...1 hr 7 min
  17. 473Reinventing Yourself with Heather LandThis week Jen introduces Amy and the For the Love audience to her long-time friend, comedian Heather Land, who gained fame as a social media sensation through her viral I Ain’t Doin’ It videos. They discuss Heather’s journey from an early career in ministry to one in comedy, and now to her newest passion project, life coaching. Heather talks to Jen and Amy about the impact of burnout and the challenges of reinventing oneself, especially at different life stages and finding joy in her new creative project, the Dear Heathers podcast (that she co-hosts with best-friend Heather Lenard) encouraging other women to embrace their journeys and feel empowered.In this episode: Jen and Amy share their mixed feelings on receiving unsolicited advice. Inspired by the Dear Heathers podcast, Amy and Jen reminisce about what it was like using landline phones when they were teens. Shocker: Jen even remembers her old phone number! The group talks about the importance of recognizing signs of burnout and how reinventing oneself is a vital part of personal growth Heather shares how support from friends can play a crucial role in our journey, like when her friend advised her to ‘do it [comedy] afraid’. Jen, Amy, and Heather talk about women looking to others with relatable stories when they go through difficult experiences and how community can be our greatest lifeline. ***Thought-provoking Quotes:“What do I have to lose except my dignity?” – Heather Land“Standup is maybe the hardest form of comedy. It’s not scripted. You don’t have directors and writers. It is a hot seat and it’s live. It’s sink or swim. You picked the hardest way to be funny.” – Jen Hatmaker“You are in full integrity when you make a change when something is still working. That is a move that is in full alignment which is something to be proud of.” – Jen Hatmaker“We ask kids ‘what do you want to be when you grow up?” and I don’t think we leave a lot of room for ‘What do I want to be next?’ or ‘what do I want to be when I’m 40, or 50, or 60?’.” – Heather Land “I’m sorry, I have not hired you as my life coach.” – Amy HardinResources Mentioned in This Episode:Heather’s I Ain’t Doin’ It Playlist - https://youtu.be/slcwYADYwRc?si=Oe-m-0jf3-wDdVmHDear Heathers Podcast - https://www.heatherlandofficial.com/podcastHeather Lenard - https://www.heatherlenard.com/Life Coaching with Heather Land - https://www.heatherlandofficial.com/life-coach#book-an-appointmentNichole Nordeman - https://www.instagram.com/nicholenordeman/Susannah Lewis (Whoa Susannah) - https://whoasusannah.com/Jen Hatmaker Book Club Cruise January 30-February 3, 2025 - https://shop.jenhatmaker.com/pages/cruiseOnly Murders in the Building - https://www.hulu.com/series/only-murders-in-the-buildingShould men take baths? - Dear Heathers: Ep. 3 Bath Time with the Swon Brothers - https://apple.co/4eI6s9bGuest’s Links:Heathers’s website - https://www.heatherlandofficial.com ...1 hr 3 min
  18. 474Hope Breaks Through the Hard Stuff: Rev. Dr. Angela N. Parker on AdventSettle in, listeners. Jen and Amy have invited Greek and New Testament professor and scholar, Reverend Dr. Angela N. Parker to the show to reflect on the Advent season with some words of hope and liberation. She took our butts to seminary, opening our eyes to what it looks like when you examine the scripture through the lens of womanist theology and the experiences of Black women. But as Dr. Parker tells us, “I’ve lived long enough to know that God will bring me through but sometimes it’s hard and sometimes it hurts. But even after the hurt, the tender spots get more resilient.”There’s so much to unpack in this one. Jen and Amy discuss their favorite Christmas movies and debate whether classics like Gremlins and Die Hard fit the genre  Dr. Parker explains how liberation is a collective journey, not an individual one – and how everyone, including white men, can need it. We learn how understanding the historical context of scripture is vital for its interpretation. And we also talk about some of the holiday hullabaloo we’re ready to Bless and Release this season. ***Thought-provoking Quotes:“If I’m liberated, I don’t want to be liberated alone.” – Dr. Angela N. Parker“We don’t want to think about the early church being enslavers.” – Dr. Angela N. Parker“If our biblical text is wrestling with the idea of empire from Genesis to Revelation, we are wrestling with empire as well.” –– Dr. Angela N. Parker“When we work as a collective, we actually do better to transform society.” – Dr. Angela N. Parker“The tree at the end of Revelation 21 has the leaves for the healing of all the “Ethnae”, for all the ethnicities, for all the nations. That’s what John the Revelator sees in his final vision.” – Dr. Angela N. Parker“In my own work, I talk about how I try to even get whiteness out of me. Even as an African American woman born and raised in these United States, there are elements of whiteness that are in me, on me and a part of me. That’s just what we swim in.” – Dr. Angela N. Parker“Hope breaks forth in the midst of terror, fear, and overwhelm. It’s normal to have [those feelings]. Don’t trick yourself into ignoring them. It’s best for us to acknowledge what is going on around us but to remember that hope breaks through.” – Dr. Angela N. Parker“I’ve lived long enough to know that God will bring me through but sometimes it’s still hard and sometimes it still hurts. But even after the hurt, the tender spots get more resilient.” – Dr. Angela N. ParkerResources Mentioned in This Episode:Orange Theory - https://www.orangetheory.com/en-usJames Hal Cone - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._ConeJacquelyn Grant - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquelyn_GrantDelores Williams - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delores_S._WilliamsKatie Cannon - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_CannonAlice Walker - https://alicewalkersgarden.com/Rev. Dr. Margaret Aymer - https://www.austinseminary.edu/cf_directory/dirprofile.cfm?p=2576&id=4459Sisters in the Wilderness: The Challenge of Womanist God by Delores Williams - https://amzn.to/4eV3Nce< ...1 hr 1 min
  19. 475Cozy Love Stories and Second Chances: A Conversation with Josie SilverDescription:In this delightful episode, Jen Hatmaker sits down with bestselling author Josie Silver, the brilliant mind behind One Day in December. Josie shares her journey from writing ten novels to achieving massive success with this enchanting Christmas love story. Together, Jen and Josie discuss the creative process, the inspiration behind her characters, and the challenges of crafting a love story that spans a decade.Josie opens up about the unexpected ways her personal life influences her writing, how she brings authenticity to her characters, and what it feels like to finally hit her stride after years of writing. Whether you're a die-hard romance fan or simply looking for your next great read, this cozy conversation will inspire and entertain.Thought-provoking Quotes:You write the men you want them to be, not necessarily the men they are. That’s part of the magic of romance writing.” – Josie Silver“I think a lot of the little, quiet moments in life—the shorthand between people who truly know each other—are what make stories feel real.” – Josie Silver“Do you want help, or do you want a hug?” – Jen Hatmaker, reflecting on parenting young adults.It was a joy to write this book. Some books come out more easily than others and, this one, I wrote in six weeks. Some books have taken six months, some have taken far longer; whereas this one, every time I sat down, everything just seemed to work. – Josie SilverResources Mentioned in This Episode:One Day in December: A Novel by Josie Silver - https://amzn.to/3OD2D9AGuest’s Links:Josie’s books - https://amzn.to/3VlTFl3Josie’s website - https://josiesilver.com/Josie’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/josiesilverauthorJosie’s Twitter - https://x.com/josiesilverJosie’s BlueSky - https://bsky.app/profile/josiesilver.bsky.socialJosie’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/JosieSilverAuthorConnect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmakerThe For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.35 min
  20. 476Bethany Joy Lenz: Breaking Free, Finding Faith, and Dinner for VampiresThis week Jen and Amy sit down with actress, musician, and author Bethany Joy Lenz to discuss her deeply personal memoir, Dinner for Vampires: Life on a Cult TV Show (While also in an Actual Cult!). Bethany opens up about her experience in a high-control group, known as “The Big House Family” religious cult, the complexities of spiritual abuse, and how she found her way back to faith and autonomy with the help of a One Tree Hill fan. They explore themes of manipulation, resilience, and the power of telling your story.This raw and inspiring conversation offers hope, clarity, and empowerment for anyone navigating their own path to freedom.Jen and Amy “Rant or Rave” about New Year’s resolutions and Amy teaches us some creative perspectives to take to feel more successful in this space. And we reminisce about our favorite shows from the early 2000s. West Wing… the best! Criminal Minds, 24, Gray’s Anatomy, all bingeable. Gilmore Girls, c’mon. And what about One Tree Hill?***Thought-provoking Quotes:It doesn’t feel like a courageous act. It’s survival. Courage is when you are fully aware of the dangers that lie ahead – like a fireman, willing to run into a burning building to grab a baby – that’s courage because you know what’s at stake. When you are already in the burning building trying to find your way out, it doesn’t take courage, it’s survival – “find me the exit, how do I get out?” – Bethany Joy LenzMy faith has evolved into something that is much more connected to my gut which feels much more authentic. I feel a lot more comfortable asking questions and I really value doubt. The truth rises to the top. I think God is capable of communicating with all of us when it’s the right time in the right way. If the gospel shows us anything, it's that God meets us where we are. – Bethany Joy LenzI think a lot of Christians live in a space where we think it's very noble to not question God, like we think he’ll love us more, appreciate us more, we’ll be better disciples or believers. But he gave us the brains that we have for a reason. Is he capable of satisfying our intellect or not? So, push the button as hard and as far down as you can. It’ll hold. – Bethany Joy LenzGod is big enough to hold all of you. There’s nothing that you can present to God that is going to scare him off. He can handle the worst version of you, the angry version of you, the confused version of you. You don’t need other people to hold you. The Bible is full of stories of God one-on-one with someone (Job, Moses, Jesus) so you don’t need to be afraid of being alone with the Lord. – Bethany Joy LenzResources Mentioned in This Episode:Paul Teal - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3806295/Joy’s tribute to Paul Teal - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCf3CtopQt1/Dinner for Vampires: Life on a Cult TV Show (While also in an Actual Cult!) - https://www.amazon.com/Dinner-Vampires-Life-While-Actual/dp/1668067307Drama Queens Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/344eFGlcjmdAUqvWzPJzBkTim Keller sermon on Doubt - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/praying-our-doubts/id352660924?i=1000678149013Modern Vintage News - https://www.modernvintagenews.com/Guest’s Links:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/msbethanyjoylenz/?hl=e ...1 hr 8 min
  21. 477Lessons from the Road: Sydney Hatmaker on Saying Yes to the World pt. 1Description:At 24 years old, Jennifer Hatmaker was parenting her first diaper baby on no sleep as a stay-at-home mom and pastor’s wife. By contrast, Jen’s second-born, Sydney Hatmaker, spent half of her 24th year on a gap year travelling the world and banking a lifetime of memories.In this special two-part conversation, Sydney walks us through some of the best moments and lessons learned from her life-changing adventure, beginning in May in Berlin and ending in October in Vietnam. With stops along the way in Sicily, Turkey, Portugal, Spain, Malaysia, Indonesia, India, and Thailand, Sydney gives us some of her best tips for travelling solo on a shoestring budget. It might entail a 40-hour journey taking a car to a bus to a ferry to a bus, to another ferry, to a train, to a taxi, to a scooter, to a hostel, all to save $60, but the point is it can be done and she’s here to inspire us all with tales from her adventure.Highlights from this conversation include: In our GenXcellence Travel-Edition, we reflect on what travel was like for us in the 80s-90s, before satellites and cell phones and Expedia (Sydney has never heard of Traveller’s Cheques)  Sydney gives us her best tips for getting into one of the world’s most popular techno clubs in Berlin (shh! It’s very hush-hush!) We learn about surfing camp on the coastline of the Portuguese Riviera  Why you need to budget more for European travel than Asian travel and how you can eat in Asia on $4 a day Sydney talks about learning to be comfortable travelling on her own and being in her own company – something she thought she was already good at but was pushed to new limits And a lot more….. Be sure to tune in for part two of our conversation next week to hear how the story ends. ***Thought-provoking Quotes:I didn’t have a phone for the last two months of my trip. I still had a laptop so when I was at the hostel on wifi, I could do research and book things but it was a different kind of travel. I made the most of it and it ended up being a bit of an adventure.I obviously had an initial reaction of panic (not having a phone) but then I felt this complete freedom. – Sydney HatmakerI did have some big ideas that I would get something out of my system on this trip, that I would come home and settle down, get a real job, root down in one place but halfway through my trip I realized there is so much more (in the world) that I want to see. There’s so much to do, so much to see and explore and so many ways to make it happen. – Sydney Hatmaker Travelling feels different and way more real when you’re by yourself. I love my own company and my company is better than some random person that I’m not really connecting with. And realizing that, makes it really easy to connect with more people. – Sydney Hatmaker Resources Mentioned in This Episode:The 9 Enneagram Types Descriptions - https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-descriptions/Skyscanner - https://www.skyscanner.com/Rick Steves Travel Guides - https://amzn.to/41mKeFXBerghain Techno Club in Berlin - https://bit.ly/4gfaMNqSagrada Familia - https://sagradafamilia.org/en/Jen’s MeCamp - https://bit.ly/3D1qX2IThe Banana Pancake Trail - https://trail.bananabackpacks.com/banana-pancake-trail/Host ...51 min
  22. 478Lessons from the Road: Sydney Hatmaker on Saying Yes to the World Part 2Description:In part two of this epic conversation, we continue our journey around the globe with SydneyHatmaker to hear about some of the amazing adventures and experiences had during her sixmonths travelling across Europe and Asia on a tiny budget.In this episode:● We hear how staying connected while travelling can have some serious pros and cons● Sydney tells us about the 200 hours of intense yoga training she underwent in themagical landscape of the Indian Himalayan Mountains● She tells us about her heart-pounding experience climbing a (LITERAL) active volcano,Mount Rinjani in Indonesia, and how it was the hardest thing she has ever done● And Sydney tells us how she ultimately decided that it was time to hang up the backpackand come back home.As you dream and make plans for 2025, we hope this episode inspires you to broaden yourhorizons, to take chances, and to say yes to new things. One thing we are sure of is that thisonce-in-a-lifetime adventure is sure to be repeated. The only question is where will we go?***Thought-provoking Quotes:I get why people climb mountains. It’s so empowering. You push up hard against the growingedge of your own limits. I didn’t even know that I was capable of pushing myself that hard. Youjust take that feeling and it&#39;s contagious, it spreads to other parts of your life. – SydneyHatmakerI met this amazing 70 year old woman in one of my hosels in Turkey who started backpackingwhen she retired. She had been all throughout the entirety of the Middle East. She was soincredible. We all gathered around her. She had the most incredible stories. – Sydney HatmakerResources Mentioned in This Episode:The 9 Enneagram Types Descriptions - https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-descriptions/Skyscanner - https://www.skyscanner.com/Rick Steves Travel Guides - https://amzn.to/41mKeFXBerghain Techno Club in Berlin - https://bit.ly/4gfaMNqSagrada Familia - https://sagradafamilia.org/en/Jen’s MeCamp - https://bit.ly/3D1qX2IThe Banana Pancake Trail - https://trail.bananabackpacks.com/banana-pancake-trail/Hostel World - https://www.hostelworld.com/Pyramid Yogshala Yoga School - https://pyramidyogshala.com/Guest’s Links:Connect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmakerThe For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.42 min
  23. 479Unlocking Presence (and Other Woo-Woo Sh*t We Like) with Activations and Mimi BouchardDescription:Life throws some challenging stuff at us. Sometimes we rely on traditional therapies and resources trusted in Western medicine to help us through. And sometimes, we need to look to alternative and newly emerging tools to experience the relief or breakthrough that we need. In today’s conversation, Mimi Bouchard, founder of the Activations app (formerly known as Superuman) shares her transformative journey from a troubled adolescence marked by substance abuse and self-doubt to becoming a successful entrepreneur and advocate for personal development. She discusses how her unique approach to 'activations' has helped her and so many others achieve emotional and mental wellbeing by utilizing unique audios that are a mix between a motivational podcast, cinematic music and guided visualization.From guided visualization practices and breathwork to grounding, reiki, and other body work Jen and Amy also talk about other “woo-woo” wellness approaches that have been useful for them in their healing needs. For The Love listeners have an opportunity to try Activations at a steep discount on a yearly subscription by visiting activations.com/jen.***Thought-provoking Quotes:It was the beginning of a completely new life for me. I’m not going to say that I woke up the next day and I was perfect and completely transformed. It’s obviously a mega-journey and it’s not linear and growth is so messy. – Mimi Bouchard I had to believe in myself. The only thing that got me there was just this core deep belief in myself that I had to develop. I didn’t have that in my younger years. Doing this work of personal development was the only thing that mattered when everyone else doubted me. It drove me. At the end of the day, it’s a very lonely journey at the beginning. I had to be alone a lot. I had to be the only one who deeply believed in myself. – Mimi BouchardWhen you’re feeling alive, it slows down time. What a blessing to be able to slow down time – life goes by so quickly. The more things we can do to slow down time, the better our lives will be, and more clear. You have to unnumb yourself. When you numb yourself so much, it’s very hard to get clear or get unstuck. It’s very easy to stay in your old ways and just numb, numb, numb until you just feel nothing anymore. – Mimi BouchardI think so much of it is the intention with which you do things. If you are open-hearted and seeking, a lot of tools can benefit you. – Amy HardinResources Mentioned in This Episode:The Success Principles: How to Get from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be by Jack Canfield - https://amzn.to/3CYaVq7Activations App - https://www.superhuman.app/homeActivate Your Future Self: The Secret to Effortlessly Becoming the Happiest, Healthiest and Wealthiest You by Mimi Bouchard - https://amzn.to/4gck8t6Guest’s Links:Mimi’s website - https://www.mimibouchard.com/aboutMimi’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mimibouchardMimi’s Twitter - https://x.com/mimibouchardMimi’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/officialmimibouchardActivations App - https://www.superhuman.app/homeConnect with Jen!Jen’s website</a ...46 min
  24. 480Tell Me More: The Power of Hard Conversations with Kelly CorriganDescription:In this thought-provoking conversation, Jen and Amy speak with “poet laureate of the ordinary” Kelly Corrrigan about the valuable lessons from life she’s reflecting on in this season: the significance of saying hard things, the power of listening and understanding in relationships, observations from parenting and from a career as a writer, podcaster and storyteller, and the importance of participating in democracy, regardless of who is in power. In this episode, which was recorded on Election Day 2024 (prior to knowing the outcome) Kelly uses her trademark wit and steadfast wisdom to offer listeners evergreen words of encouragement for our political landscape and for our lives in whole.Segments:Bless & Release: Lies we tell ourselvesGenXcellence: MTV music videos***Thought-provoking Quotes:“We have created this way of interpreting someone changing their mind as a flip-flopper and we have left no room for someone to grow.” – Kelly Corrigan“Making is good for individual well-being. Having an inventor’s or innovator’s mindset is just good for society.” – Kelly Corrigan“Once you say something out loud, it just gets smaller. It packs less of a punch. It’s the stuff that we’re holding and never saying to anyone that’s going to be the death of us.” – Kelly CorriganResources Mentioned in This Episode:The Strumbellas - https://thestrumbellas.ca/Arcade Fire - https://www.arcadefire.com/Mt. Joy - https://www.mtjoyband.com/Bless and Release sweatshirt - https://shop.jenhatmaker.com/collections/apparel-accessories/products/bless-release-sweatshirtJamie Wright - https://www.instagram.com/jamietheveryworst/MTV - https://www.mtv.com/American Bandstand TV show (1952-1989) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049993/Madonna - Like a Virgin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s__rX_WL100American Top 40 with Casey Kasem (1970-1988) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Top_40The Middle Place by Kelly Corrigan - https://amzn.to/3AgM14gTell Me More: Stories About the 12 Hardest Things I'm Learning to Say by Kelly Corrigan - https://amzn.to/3UGcjUfKelly’s IG post about the NYC Marathon - https://www.instagram.com/p/DB7IZumy6aR/National Lampoon’s Animal House film (1978) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077975/Nantucket Project - https://nantucketproject.com/Nantucket Project 2024 - Kelly Corrigan’s Annual Wrap-Up - https://nantucketproject.com/2-2024-gathering/Aspen Ideas Festival - https://www.aspenideas.org/TED - https://www.ted.com/Marianne the Maker by Kelly Corrigan and Claire Corrigan Lichty - https://amzn.to/4hBUY92George Sweetland (illustrator) - https://www.georgesweetland.org/<a href="https://www.kellycorrigan.com/podcast/category/Bryan+Stevenso ...1 hr 17 min
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