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October 6, 2025 · 26 min
How can your faith speak louder than your words? Pastor Skip shares why trusting God through trials can make a powerful impact on believers and skeptics alike.
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How can your faith speak louder than your words? Pastor Skip shares why trusting God through trials can make a powerful impact on believers and skeptics alike. ...more Show the full description Show less How can your faith speak louder than your words? Pastor Skip shares why trusting God through trials can make a powerful impact on believers and skeptics alike.
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0:01 This is Connect with Skip Heitzig. Thanks for joining us for today's program. At Connect with Skip, our mission is to help you connect with God's word in a deeper way and see how it applies to everyday life.0:13 That's why we make bible teaching like today's available to you and people all around the world on radio, online, and through resources that equip you to grow in your faith. 1 great way to do that is by0:25 taking the 30 k 30 day challenge, a free daily email journey through the New Testament. Each email gives you a 30000 foot overview of a book of the bible along with key passages to0:36 read, a prayer, and life application tools to help you live it out. It's a simple practical step you can take to strengthen your walk with Jesus, and it's free. Sign up today at0:48 connect with Skip dot com. That's connect with Skip dot com. Now let's dive into today's teaching from pastor Skip Heitzig.0:58 1 who said, I am the Lord your God. You shall have no other gods besides me. Well, they're gonna pick option number 2. But that is the dilemma that1:09 Nebuchadnezzar gives to them. You and I, we face the same pressure, different circumstances, same pressure, the pressure to conform, the pressure to1:21 not stand up or stick out, but go along with the crowd. Be quiet. Blend in. Be like everybody else. W. C. Fields, remember him?1:34 W. C. Fields, that great intellect, said something very profound. He said, any dead fish can float downstream. Of course, he said it. Any dead1:46 fish can float downstream. He said it takes a live 1 to swim upstream. They're banking on the fact that everyone will do what everybody else does, that1:57 there will be a mass conformity. In fact, there is, for the most part. In verse 7, all people and nations and languages fell down and worshiped the gold image. But these 32:09 did not. They kept standing. I remember the first time I went to Israel. I was single, and I went to live on a kibbutz, a farm, a working farm,2:22 and I just could not wait to go to the Holy Land. I thought, this is going to be the most exciting. I'm going to wake up every day and feel the presence of God. It's going to be so holy and awesome and wonderful. And I2:32 was in for a shock. It was a -it was a trial. Because in that day, at that time, on that kibbutz, volunteers from all over the world, young kids came to work.2:44 But I discovered that the Europeans that came, my age, all came to party. They wanted to work, but at night it was all party, and there was lots of things going on. It2:56 was it was loose living. And a lot of temptation came my way to conform to that, because I was young and single and of that age. And I was so glad I had other believers with me on that3:08 kibbutz that I came with, and we could strengthen each other. In fact, I'm convinced that's why Jesus sent his disciples out 2 by 2, and why Paul the Apostle often went with other people around3:20 him to strengthen the choices that he was making. So these 3 encouraging each other stand up against the mass conformity of bowing3:31 down. Did you notice number 12, verse 12? There are certain Jews. I can't help but read a little cynicism into that. Anti3:43 Semitism is nothing new. And these Chaldeans have been waiting for 16 years, because 16 years when that dream had been interpreted, Nebuchadnezzar gave3:55 a promotion, a raise to Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. The other Chaldeans were waiting for an opportunity just like this to get back. There4:07 are certain Jews, they say. They're brought before the king. Let's go on and see what happens. Verse 16 shows us the4:18 second slice of this message. Yeah, the world wants you to shut up, but your God wants you to stand up. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego answered and said to the king,4:30 O Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter. Isn't that interesting? That's their way of saying, we're not at a loss4:42 for words here. This is a no brainer for us. We already know what the answer's gonna be. We don't have to think about this long. If that is the case, verse 17, our4:54 God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us from your hand, O king. Now notice the twist. But if5:05 not, let it be known to you, O king, that we do not serve your gods, nor will we worship the gold image which you have set up.5:17 No explanation is offered. No long elaborate explanation. Just simply, no. We're not gonna do it. We don't have to think about5:29 this. No. Now pause here a minute. Couldn't these 3 guys have done something different?5:41 Couldn't they have come up with a different approach? Maybe a little rationalization would be fitting at this moment. For example, they could have thought, Well, you know, Nebuchadnezzar, he's treated us pretty5:53 well. He's given us a good job and a good pay scale, and we should at least show our appreciation to him and just bow, get it over with. Or perhaps they could have thought,6:06 it's really not idolatry if we just get down quickly and get back up and the rest of our lives serve the Lord. Or perhaps they could have rationalized by saying, look, we're thousands of miles away from6:18 home. Nobody will see us. And besides, didn't God through the prophets predict that we would be taken captive and serve other gods in a foreign land? We'd just6:30 be fulfilling scripture if we were to bow. Maybe this is God's will that we bow. It shows you how warped we get when we start rationalizing. We're really good at rationalizing. You know that. We6:42 have an infinite ability to do so. Just ask anybody on a diet. We're good at rationalizing why we need that extra6:53 pastry. I found some other rationalizations about that. Rules for dieting. If you drink Diet Coke with chocolate, the calories in the chocolate are canceled out7:04 by the Diet Coke. That's how we think, isn't it? Foods like hot chocolate or cheesecake for medicinal purposes don't count. Comfort food, sort of like7:16 medical marijuana. Cookie pieces have no calories. The process of breaking the cookies causes calorie loss. Isn't it funny7:28 how we'll take a little break, a little piece of it? We're gonna eat the whole thing, but we'll do it in pieces. Somehow it makes us feel better. And finally, things licked off of knives and spoons have no calories7:40 if you're in the process of preparing something else. We rationalize. These 3 men did not rationalize the decision that they made. We don't have to7:52 think about it. We don't have to ponder it. We don't have to make a defense for ourselves. We're not going to bow. God can deliver us. If not, not going to do it. God's people throughout8:04 Scripture often go against the flow. That's what Paul encourages us to do. Romans 12, do not be conformed to this world, but transformed by the renewing of your8:16 mind. Or as the J. B. Phillips translation puts it best, don't let the world squeeze you into its own mold. They didn't.8:29 Verse 17, again, notice, if this is the case, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us. But if not, verse 18, let it be known to you, O king, we do8:40 not serve your gods. Let me retranslate that. We serve a sovereign God who can deliver us, and he will deliver us in life8:52 or by death. Either way, it's a deliverance from you, O King. It's remarkable. If you want to get a good book on suffering, get a book that was put out9:04 a few years ago by Yancey, Philip Yancey called Where is God When It Hurts? In that book he writes a story about an athlete by the name of Brian Sternberg.9:16 Sternberg was a pole vaulter, and he set record after record after record. And 1 1 time he set a new world record. 3 weeks after he set that record, he was pole vaulting again,9:28 cleared the pole, but this time when he landed, he landed on his neck. He heard it snap, and then he felt nothing. And from that day forward was a quadriplegic consigned9:40 to a wheelchair. Less than a year after the accident, a major magazine in America asked him to write an article about his athletic career,9:52 the accident, and how he, as a Christian, because he claimed he was 1, was dealing with the fact that he was now in a wheelchair as a quadriplegic. He10:04 wrote that article. I'll just give you the last 4 short sentences of it. He writes, having faith is a necessary step toward 110:16 of 2 things, being healed is 1 of them. But peace of mind, if healing does not occur, is the other. Either 1 will suffice,10:29 close quote. Faith to be healed, faith to have peace if I don't get healed. Either 1 will suffice. Either 1 will suffice. Here's these 3 guys before the10:41 king. We might be delivered miraculously. We might die. Either 1 will suffice. Either 1. Verse 19, Nebuchadnezzar was full of fury, and the expression on his10:53 face changed towards Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Have you ever had that happen? Have you ever been in a conversation with somebody and they're tracking with you, and then suddenly you say something they don't like,11:04 and it's written all over their face. They can tart, and you can just see, they don't like what I just said. He spoke and commanded that they heat the furnace 7 times more than it was usually11:16 heated. It's called overkill. And he commanded certain mighty men of valor who were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego and cast them into the burning fiery11:27 furnace. Then these men were bound in their coats and trousers, their turbans, and other garments, and they were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. Therefore, because11:39 the king's command was urgent and the furnace exceedingly hot, the flame and the fire killed those men who took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. And these 3 men, Shadrach, Meshach,11:51 and Abednego, fell down bound, third time it's mentioned they were bound, tied up, into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.12:01 You're listening to connect with Skip Heitzig. Before we return to today's teaching, let me ask, are we living in the last days? With uncertainty, conflict, and moral12:12 confusion dominating the headlines, it's a question many believers are asking. Pastor Skip wants to help you understand what God's word says about the end times so you can face the future with12:24 confidence. That's why this month we're offering 2 timely resources. His 2 CD teaching from Daniel, bible from 30000 feet, and his booklet, are we Living in the Last12:35 Days? These will give you a clear biblical perspective on what's happening in the world and how to be ready for what's ahead. Request your copies when you give a gift of 25 dollars or more at connect with gift dot12:47 com slash offer or call 809 2 2 18 88. Now let's get back to today's teaching.12:55 Kennezar was astonished, and he rose in haste, and he spoke saying to the counselors, did we not cast 3 men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered13:07 and said to the king, true, O king. Look, he answered, I see 4 men, what, loose. They went in bound, but now they're13:19 loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they are not hurt. And the form of the fourth is like the son of God. I'll get back to that in13:31 just a moment when we close. They were bound, but now they're loosed. But 3 were thrown in, and they see 4. And it says in my translation as I read it, the fourth looks13:43 like the Son of God. A better translation would be, the fourth looks like a son of the gods. You see, Nebuchadnezzar wasn't a Trinitarian. He did not have the benefit of New Testament13:54 theology. He didn't understand the concept of the Son of God as you and I do. He simply saw some other form, some godlike deity or angelic apparition14:05 walking with the other 3 men who are now loosed in the midst of the burning fiery furnace. What's amazing to me is that these guys are not trying to get out.14:18 In fact, you'll see it in a minute, they have to be asked to get out by the king. They're just walking around, hanging out, talking, in fellowship with this14:30 fourth. Let's go down to verse 26. We've seen we've seen 2 slices so far. Your world wants you to shut up. Your God wants you to stand up. The best14:41 part of the story is yet to come. Your opponents may learn to look up. Verse 26, then Nebuchadnezzar went near the mouth of the burning fiery furnace and spoke saying,14:53 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, servants of the most high God, come out and come here. They needed that to get them out.15:06 Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego came from the midst of the fire. And the satraps, administrators, governors, and the king's counselors gathered together, and they saw these men on whose bodies15:18 the fire had no power. The hair of their head was not singed, nor were their garments affected, and a smell of fire was not on them. Nebuchadnezzar spoke saying,15:30 blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who sent his angel and delivered his servants who trusted in him. And they have frustrated the king's15:42 word and yielded their bodies that they should not serve nor worship any god except their own god. Therefore, I make a decree, I suppose he would at that point,15:54 that any people, nation, or language which speaks anything amiss against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made an ash heap, because there is16:06 no other God who can deliver like this. Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the province of Babylon. I16:18 wonder if you realize how monumental this is. In chapter 2, remember this same king, 16 years prior, though he had forgotten by now, until now. 16 years prior, this16:30 king said, your God is the God of gods. He's the Lord of kings. Now this king makes into law a crime16:41 will be committed if you say anything against this Jewish God. Now just think how monumental this is. This is Babylon. This is ancient Iraq and Iran.16:54 You know how they feel toward Israel now. Right? Think how pro Israel or God of Israel this king is in this ancient time. Why? Because17:06 the testimony of 3 men who stood up made an impact on this pagan king. Their life preached. Your life can preach more eloquently than any sermon I17:18 could ever come up with from this platform, especially as you suffer and you trust God in the midst of your suffering, it will be impressive not only to17:29 Christians, but to non believers. They look at you while you're experiencing suffering, your fiery trial, your ordeal, and they see you clinging and trusting and rejoicing in the spirit.17:42 And it's an enigma to them, number 1, but it's impressive to them, number 2. Now that's the story. I'd like to close by giving you 3 takeaways, 3 principles that emerged17:54 from what we have read. Number 1, standing up for God is always better than bowing down to man, but it's always harder. Nobody likes to stick out like a sore thumb. It's always18:05 harder to swim against the current than just float with it. It's better, but it's harder. And because of that, you should ready yourself for that.18:18 So that if somebody yells at you or ditzes you because you're a believer or persecutes you, you won't be taken by surprise. In the fourth century, Athanasius18:30 did exactly that. He readied himself. He stood before a council. And Athanasius was the patriarch of Alexandria. He believed in the deity of Christ, as the scripture says,18:41 the Trinity, the nature of God. There was a man at the council named Arius. He was a heretic. He denounced the deity of Christ and the Trinity. And at 1 point in this18:52 heated meeting, Arius stood up and said, Athanasius, look how many are against you. The whole world is against you. To which Athanasius replied, if the whole world goes19:04 against the truth, then Athanasius will go against the world. He readied himself for that. It's better to stand up for God than bow to man, but it's always harder.19:17 Truth number 2. God is always sovereign whether the outcome is triumph or tragedy. I take you back again to verse 17 and 18. Our God can deliver19:28 us, and he will, but if not, we will not bow. It's so important that we grasp this truth. In other words, if we get delivered, he's19:40 sovereign. If we die, he's sovereign. Some of you still live under that illusion that says, if if trouble is avoided or you19:52 get delivered from calamity, that God's sovereignty is upheld. But if the bottom drops out of your life, if there's pain and suffering and loss of life, there goes the sovereignty of God.20:05 And that's why we get so fearful when somebody would ask us during a tragedy, you believe in God? What kind of a God of love would allow this? What kind of20:16 a God is this? Answer, this is a sovereign God who gives and takes away. And listen to the words of Job who lost 10 of his children in 120:28 day and his own health and fell down and worshiped God and said, blessed be the Lord. He gives and he takes away. He gives and he takes20:40 away. Romans 8 28 is a promise we often land on. And we know, the scripture says in that verse, that all things work together for good to those who love20:51 God and are the called according to his purpose. Notice it does not say all things will feel good or all things will seem good to you at that moment,21:03 but all things will work together for your good. The scripture is not some fairy tale that promises you a fairy tale ending. Happily ever after, white picket fence, cherry on top.21:15 That's not in scripture. I remember when I was younger and I read this tract that I was given. It says, God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life. I've discovered that there are times21:27 that plan doesn't feel very wonderful, but it's still God's plan for my life. When God says no, he is as sovereign and loving as when God says yes. When21:39 God takes away, he is to be worshipped as much as when God pours out and gives. These 3 knew it. Here's the third and final principle, and we'll close.21:51 Suffering is the doorway to freedom. Now I'm gonna bring you back to something that we noticed as we read the text. 4 times in the text the word bind or22:02 bound is used. They did that as they tied these guys up with ropes, threw them in the fire. Nebuchadnezzar looks down and says, wait a minute, didn't we throw 3 guys tied up? How come I see22:14 4 loosed? Here's the principle. The only thing the fire burned is what bound them. Their clothes didn't burn. Their hair didn't burn. Their flesh didn't burn. They didn't even smell like smoke. The only thing that22:26 burned were those ropes that tied them. And that is why we need adversity in life, because adversity22:38 frees us from certain bondages that we have been living under. If I brought 10 of you up here to give your testimony of your time of suffering or grief or loss,22:50 I'm sure all of you would have some story of how God set you free from some habit, some practice, some way of thinking, because suffering is the doorway to freedom. I leave you with23:01 this. It's from A. W. Tozer. The hammer is a useful tool, but the nail, if it had feeling and intelligence, could present another side of the story.23:14 For the nail knows the hammer only as an opponent, a brutal, merciless enemy who lives to pound it into submission, to beat it down out of sight and clinch it into place.23:28 That is the nail's view of the hammer, and it is accurate except for 1 thing. The nail forgets that both it and the hammer are servants of the same workman. Let23:40 the nail but remember that the hammer is held by the workman, and all resentment toward it will disappear. The carpenter decides whose head will be beaten next and23:52 what hammer shall be used in the beating. That is his sovereign right. When the nail has surrendered to the will of the workman, it has gotten a little glimpse of his benign plans for24:03 its future. Then it will yield to the hammer without complaint. Our sovereign God gives and takes away, blesses and24:15 pounds, all for a purpose. Some of that purpose you may discover. You might not discover it for years. Part of it you'll never discover24:27 until he himself tells you when you're on the other side. But that's a place to rest. And we know all things work together for the24:39 good of those who love him. Thanks24:42 for listening to connect with Skip Heitzig. Before you go, don't miss your chance to request this month's featured resources from pastor Skip. The Bible from 30000 feet 2 CD teaching from24:54 Daniel, and his booklet, Are We Living in the Last Days? Together, they'll help you understand what the Bible says about the future and how to be ready for it. These resources are our thanks for your gift of 2525:05 dollars or more to help share God's word with more people. Call 809 2 2 18 88 or visit connect with skip dot com slash offer. And while you're there, sign up for the25:17 free 30 k 30 day challenge to grow in your knowledge of God's word. Thanks for spending time with us today, and we'll see you next time on Connect with Skip Heitzig.25:49 Connect with Skip Heitzig is a presentation of Connection Communications, connecting you to God's never changing truth in ever changing times.
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