Ron Wagner on USA Fencing, Women’s Sports, and the Cost of Taking a Stand

Ron Wagner on USA Fencing, Women’s Sports, and the Cost of Taking a Stand

November 5, 2026 · 29 min

Dr. Chaps interviews fencing referee Ron Wagner about his dismissal after opposing men competing in women’s sports. Wagner discusses his experience with USA Fencing and the congressional response. The conversation examines fairness in sports and the personal cost of speaking out.

Chaps Klingenschmitt

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